How Many Countries Recognise Kosovo? | And why is it so difficult to reach a precise figure?

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More than a decade after Kosovo declared independence from Serbia, debate rages over how many states have actually recognised it. Apart from the dispute over the number of initial recognitions, the number of states that have since withdrawn their recognitions (or 'de-recognised' Kosovo) is also contested. In this video, I look at both questions and try to provide the most accurate answer to them both before producing a final figure for the number of current recognitions.
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Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence from Serbia, on 17 February 2008, divided international opinion. While the United States and most of the European Union quickly recognised it, Russia, China and many regional powers - such as India, Brazil, South Africa - still regard it as being under Serbian sovereignty. In the years since then, Belgrade and Pristina, along with their respective international allies, have waged a fierce diplomatic battle over recognition. At first, Kosovo made significant gains. However, since 2015, the tide has turned as Serbia has persuaded a number of countries to withdraw their recognition. As a result, there is now considerable confusion over just how many countries actually recognise Kosovo. As I show, this is down to a range of factors, including the highly ambiguous positions of a number of countries. In this video, I look at the numbers or recognition and derecognitions, explain how the confusion has arisen, and try to provide a clear answer to the question of how many states now recognise Kosovo.
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@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

So, I finally got round to doing a video on Kosovo. This had been a long time coming. There are so many interesting aspects to the issue and I hope to follow up with more. However, one of the things that really fascinates me is just how many countries actually recognise it. I have been following this closely since the declaration of independence in 2008, and it has always been exceptionally difficult to produce a wholly accurate figure. It has become even more tricky with the withdrawn recognitions ('de-recognitions') in recent years. Overall, it really does go to show that recognition isn't as straightforward as many might like to imagine. Thanks so much for watching. If you found it useful, please do 'Like' and 'Share' it. Also, if you haven't already, please do consider subscribing to the channel. It helps it grow!

@tauceti8060 4 года назад

Wait so this situation like another China and Taiwan

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. In some way yes. There is a diplomatic battle going on over recognition. However, it is slightly different form of recognition.PR China and Taiwan are contesting who, nominally at least, should be regarded as the legitimate government of the Chinese state. It is an either or contest over the recognition of a government of a single country. Kosovo and Serbia is a battle over state recognition where the existence of one isn't at the expense of another. States can recognise Kosovo and Serbia, although Serbia obviously argues that Kosovo is a part of its territory. Simply put, Taiwan would become a Kosovo situation if it formally declared independence.

@Nista357 4 года назад

@@tauceti8060 It is not even close. There are just some similarities.

@gmil9351 4 года назад

Blaz Blaz “international law”only applies to small and weak countries, it does not apply to NATO and the US.

@georgijepapadopulou3874 4 года назад

read this 1. Kosovo independence is declared by ethnicly Albaninan people, they have they own country.... Albania.. Have you ever heard of that ever in history ? Can you imagine Mexicans to declare independance in California ? 2. Kosovo independance us advocats Madeleine Albright and general Wesley Clark have invested hundreds of millions in Kosovo companys for electricity,gas... etc... strange? A conflict of interest? 3. Serbs are forced to leave Kosovo !!!!Ethnic cleansing!!!!!, they lose everything there... jobs, homes,lifes..... Today minority lives there in enclaves, living in everyday fear for their lives 4. PM and PRESIDENT of Kosovo are leaders of terrorist organization called "Kosovo Liberation Army", marked by US as terrorist organiziong and it is true, they killed many civilians,kids, womens 5. We were ilegaly bombed by NATO in 1999. Again they killed civilians kids, tv reporters (btw our national television is strategic goal!!!!) UN did not allow it!!!!!! Bombs were full of depleted uranium, 10-15 years later number of people with cancer is in growth by 100% because of radiation. You have many nato soliders who died because of radiotion too... Some of them in italy won lawsuit vs country because of that. watch here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cjNvBrj1f78.html 6. Our whole religion and history of our country, culture is there... Churches from 12,13,14 century are vandalized,even Serbian graves are vandalized by albanians 7. I can talk about this for hours, KOSOVO IS SERBIA! We had our first battle for Kosovo in 1389!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Komentariram 4 года назад

The story begins far before 1999... Albanians in Kosovo were given autonomy but they wanted independents. Then they provocated guaverment ( similar like Katalonia, except Spain has Eu support that serbia didn't had )

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. Oh yes, the story goes a lot further back than 1999! In all the disputes I cover, history matters a lot. However, I have less than 15 minutes to try to answer a particular question. I therefore try to focus on providing the necessary basic background information for viewers who might not know much about a dispute without getting into too much potentially confusing detail.

@aarbdev4514 4 года назад

Kosovo illegally became part of Serbia when the Shkup Vilayet got dissolved after the ottoman empire. Most of the population was Albanian and they should have been independent long before that.

@Nista357 4 года назад

@@aarbdev4514 You Turks illegaly became part of the Balkans ;)

@antunmk1 4 года назад

@@aarbdev4514 You're wrong, Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia

@NM-ej3xw 4 года назад

It starts in 18th century when newly Islamised Albanians and Serbs started agression on Orthodox Serbs amd Albanians. Ottoman empire is the reason why all of this happened.

@TheOverkloker 4 года назад

You cannot fool DNA. Albanians are not originally from Balkan

@shimisufumika325 3 года назад

They share DNA with Northern Africans.

@dejankosanovic5528 3 года назад

Shimisu Fumika no, they share DNA with Armenian and Azerbaijani people. It’s historically proven

@101poumi 3 года назад

Dejan Kosanović Serbian dna are from Mongolia

@dejankosanovic5528 3 года назад

Football Winner funny how you love to write hate without doing any research and thinking you are funny, but in reality, it’s just sad and cringe. Mongolians and Caucasian people are total different race, but hey, kid like you that never did research doesn’t bother me because you’re stupid

@doK_KK 3 года назад

serbs have 80% gypsy DNA and this are straight FACTS

@DraganMej 4 года назад

Thank you for your unbiased view over the problem, I do really appreciate it!

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks so much!

@u_usta_te_kuchiki_ebali 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay do you see Kosovo as serbian or albanian. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia and the serbian origin is from Kosovo. When tito was the president of yugoslavia he wanted albania to join yugoslavia so he gave albanians land, education and a good life. The albanians took it to the extreme and president milosevic warned everyone about nato and he said that usa and nato supported Kosovo so they could get acess to their mines and leave Kosovo emptyhanded. Nato claims that they fight for peace but they rule over people to step up and fill their pockets with money

@anitaaanitaa9778 3 года назад

@@u_usta_te_kuchiki_ebali Nobody gave land to albanians! Albanians are the first people in Balkan! Slavic people came from Russia and other places much later. So let’s not even talk about who the land belongs to. You should go and read a history book, learn more, and then you can come here and talk... Serbians are really thinking everything belongs to them, they always wanted to rule the whole Balkan, BUT NO! You should know where you belong bro! Sorry if this hurts you but Kosovo(Dardania) was and will always be Albanian, the land of the eagles 🦅🇽🇰🇦🇱

@AverageTPSenjoyer 3 года назад

@@anitaaanitaa9778 bruh no helena were first then slavs and russia didnt exist then all slavs that went to balkan came from central europe and either stayed there or went to eastern or south eastern europe land of eagles my ass kosovo is serbia! I will always support my slavic brother 🇲🇰♥️🇷🇸

@18IMAMGODINA 2 года назад

@@anitaaanitaa9778 Its funny how you are programmed to say that , you have came from the middle east you havent been on balkans before the 13th century . However "Slavs" it would appear that there is new evidence emerging and showing that the people living today are the same people that lived in these placed 12000 years ago (This is when there was an actual civilisation ) There are even older skeletal remains that have the same genetic type as that of the modern day Serb that are older then 12000 years but they are not connected to any culture or civilisation. Albanians on the other hand dont have anything in common , they have in common with Armenia , both language and the haplotype.

@dry0campa155 4 года назад

i came across your channel from geography now and i’d like to thank you for producing content like this cus i’m obsessed with stuff like this 💕

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks so much! I’m really glad you like it. 🙏🏻👍 Do let me know if there are any subjects you’d like to see me cover. Always keen to hear ideas.

@goranmilic442 11 месяцев назад

@@JamesKerLindsay There is no official UN law that would describe what can or cannot be country. It all depends on political interest. Donbas, Kosovo, Catalonia, Northern Cyprus, Artsakh, South Ossetia, Gozo, Scotland, Transdnistria, Rep. Srpska... It's incredible that so many disputes still exist in modern Europe.

@joeblack5393 3 года назад

The whole thing about number of recognitions is silly. This isnt a high school popularity contest. In reality it makes exactly precisely 0 difference whether the number of countries that recognize Kosovo is 97, 98, or 120. The only number that matters is that of UNSC members with veto power, of which Serbia has 2. Apart from that, in my honest opinion, Serbian campaign for recognition revocation is purely trolling in order to hurt and destabilize the Albanian ultra nationalists in power, because their own voters take each revocation as a giant slap in their face and humiliation. And thats a good thing that Serbia should keep doing. Especially now that Albanians have broken Washington agreement and are again applying for various organizations, despite what they signed and agreed to. It just shows you that US and West in general are incapable of respecting any agreement you sign with them whatsoever, and will always find a way to creatively (re)interpret anything you sign, or outright just ignore it. In the end, Kosovo will exist as whatever US wants it to appear, as long as Kosovo, such as it is, has US military protection. The moment that changes, whatever number of recognitions might be at that particular point, we will simple come back, and Kosovo will be no more, suffering the same fate as Nagorno-Karabakh. And the whole world knows it.

@klestidpoloska487 2 года назад

Yeah, i would really doubt major powers will allow a serbian military campaign over kosovo.

@joeblack5393 2 года назад

@@klestidpoloska487 What major powers? There is only one power that matters. Once they leave, like they just left Afghanistan, its just a matter of time.

@klestidpoloska487 2 года назад

@@joeblack5393 there are 5 major powers. Usa, uk, france, russia and china. The Afghanistan situation was very different. Kosovo isn't in a war, and the serbian government is civilized enough to not act like taliban did

@joeblack5393 2 года назад

@@klestidpoloska487 Hahaha lol

@disquette8958 4 года назад

Fantastic analysis, impartial and very informative. We can sometimes hear that the threshold of (over and under) 50% of the UN member states is being used as an argument of sorts, on both sides. Is your opinion, how significant that threshold is? Will it play a part in the final deal?

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks a lot. The 50% threshold is symbolically important inasmuch as it indicates that over half the world’s (fully recognised) states accept Kosovo. This is politically useful for lobbying efforts. However, in terms of full UN membership, it doesn’t mean anything much. Membership needs a recommendation from the Security Council, which is subject to a veto by the permanent five members, and then a positive vote from 2/3 of General Assembly. There is no chance of this happening for the foreseeable future. In case you’re interested, I did a video on this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XIkZpPaWzQQ.html However, it’s also important to understand the real value of UN membership. I did something on this too ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQ0Lfe8jVBI.html

@legoshi7350 4 года назад

Do you agree with its independence? Considering all arguments of both sides

@AJSrbin 4 года назад

What is your opinion on the division of sovereign borders after the fall of communist states like Jugo and the Soviet Union? Should it be divided along ethnic lines or should the socialist republics in the former state prevail? What gives the right for one ethnic group, e.g. the Albanians , to secede from an autonomous region, while the Serbs from Republika Srpska, Bosnia, or even Serbs from Srpska Krajina, Croatia, are not allowed to do the same?

@toxicgamers1113 4 года назад

you are in right... but USA play very large role in this,because they use a large quantity of resources... they are not peacemakers, they are a common tiefs

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

This is a huge and very interesting question. A lot comes down to the international community’s adherence to a legal principle known as uti possidetis. Essentially, this says that the administrative boundaries of a territory prior to its independence should become its borders after independence. In Yugoslavia that was challenged on the grounds you mentioned. That the nations of Yugoslavia had a right of secession. This was rejected by the international community following a report from a special commission set up to look into the matter. The boundaries of the federal republics should become the boundaries of the new states. Interestingly, the Commission didn’t give Kosovo a right to secede as it considered it a part of Serbia. The decision to support Kosovo independence came later for political reasons. In any case, I hope to do something on this at some point.

@michaelisayan7470 Год назад

My understanding is that for an ethnic group to secede, there has to be a clear and obvious threat to its existence within the given state that autonomy cannot solve. Because there is a lack of precedent, there's many factors that haven't been determined in this regard. For instance, ethnic violence against the Kosovar Albanians was the cause of the NATO campaign and international administration, but it's not clear if the Republic of Kosovo was recognized on the basis of this previous ethnic violence. One example I think fits the bill somewhat well is Nagorno-Karabakh, because there is a clear objective history of Azerbaijani ethnic violence against local Armenians (1920 Shusha Massacre, 1988 Sumgait Pogrom, 1988 Kirovabad Pogrom, 1990 Baku Pogrom, 1992 Maraga Massacre, war crimes in NK, as well as cultural erasure i.e. Djulfa Cemetery), but is this enough alone to justify secession? I think objectively if we look at the Azerbaijani government's rhetoric and implicit support for racism / ethnic violence against Armenians it is, but again, there's no definite precedent directly relevant to this situation. Back to the original question, I do think it is the ethnic violence question. Kosovar Albanians faced ethnic violence to an extent where no solution but secession was viable; since the Bosnian and Croatian Serbs don't face this high degree of ethnic violence within their countries secession will not be recognized by the IC. Just my understanding, I am not an expert in international law or Balkan politics by any means; I will defer to those with more knowledge for further discussion.

@vladimirgrujicic9656 4 года назад

What's the point for anyone normal to recognise USA military base "Bondstil" in *Kosovo and on top of that they are not even in United Nations in year 2020

@vericacvetkovic9093 4 года назад

@@jaymod9111 What does that mean?

@draganmarkovic491 4 года назад

Kosovo and dissolution of Yugoslavia is an excellent example of double standards and hypocrisy of international community, especially of USA and EU who claim to be fair and righteous. When it came to dissolution of Yugoslavia they said that people had a right to choose but then when numerous Serbian communities in Croatia and Bosnia wanted to stay in Yugoslavia using same logic and mean as Croats and Bosniaks who wanted to secede than the "international community" said that only regions that had status of a republic in Yugoslavia can make that decision which in reality meant that Serbs had to accept to be separated from Yugoslavia(Serbia) and in that process "international community" even legalized expulsion of more than 300 000 Serbs from Croatia. Wars happened and the conclusion was that Bosniaks and Croats have a right for self-determination but Serbs as minorities in former federal regions have not. But then Kosovo happened and "international community" changes it's stance and says that even though Kosovo was not a republic in former Yugoslavia people of Kosovo have a right for self-determination but when the same right was asked for by Serbs in Republic of Srpska (Bosnia) they said that Kosovo is unique and can't be used as new rule in Yugoslav or any other conflict. There are many other examples of inconsistencies and hypocrisy of USA and it's allies like illegal bombing of Yugoslavia or building one of the largest NATO basses on territory which isn't fully recognized and isn't part of NATO...

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thank you. I think the first point to make was that this video was simply about the number of recognitions. I deliberately avoided going into more detail. It was just trying to come up with a figure based on what Belgrade and Pristina have claimed. As it happens, I have done a lot of work on Kosovo and Serbia. I regularly visit Serbia and my work has been translated into Serbian. You might like to refer to my book www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354 As you will see, I was critical of the Kosovo status process. And I do think it has raised some very difficult points. Also regularly make the point that a negotiated settlement is still needed. I hope you’ll take some time to watch other videos, and maybe even subscribe. I will be doing more on Kosovo and the Balkans. Thanks again.

@draganmarkovic491 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Yeah, I am aware that you didn't go into all of this stuff in this video, my comment was mainly inspired by other comments. I liked this video and I find it pretty interesting in general not just because it is about my country. I will subscribe and I am looking forward to your future uploads.

@ram-lj9kz 2 года назад

The history of the republic of srpska is bloody After all it did do you think we should award them? I doubt

@draganmarkovic491 2 года назад

@@ram-lj9kz I don't rally understand you. History of Croatian statehood is much more bloody and they built their state and have ben rewarder for expelling 300 000 Serbs from their homes. Bosniak statehood isn't much cleaner, I assume that your main point is Srebrenica and yeah that was the biggest war crime in the conflict but prior to Srebrenica Bosniak did the same thing to Serbs in villages around Srebrenica. Relative to their strength Bosniaks did as much as they could war crimes wise. Kosovo's "independence" is also built on war crimes, they did war crimes before the war, during the war and unlike any of before mentioned countries they did crimes after the war. Even now Serbs live in enclaves, churches and graveyards are attacked almost daily, monasteries are guarded by KFOR but still constantly attacked, buses going to Serbian places are often attacked. Should that behavior be rewarded?

@hhjj621 2 года назад

Solid& _vivid_ analysis, Professor ! Congratulations! 🇷🇴

@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад

Thank you very much!

@griffen3896 4 года назад

International court of justice said that there is nowhere in internation law ban on unilateral secession, so that means if UN resolution 1244 is forgotten, then we can also forget Dayton agreement and Republika Srpska can succeed from Bosnia, same thing with Crimea, Putin took advantage of west beding the rules for Kosovo's independence.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. What the ICJ did or didn’t say is actually a really great topic for a video and was already on my list as the next one to do on Kosovo. (I won’t do it immediately as I like to spread out subjects.) But essentially, it took no formal position on Resolution 1244. The case was about whether political leaders in Kosovo could declare independence. The Court said they could. Anyone can declare independence - except if there is a man explicit prohibition against it. In fact, as I have argued elsewhere, Serbia actually asked the wrong question. It should have asked whether countries recognising Kosovo had broken the requirement to respect the territorial integrity of Serbia. The question I have is whether Serbia asked the wrong question deliberately or not!? In case you are interested, here is an early draft of it: eprints.lse.ac.uk/61624/1/Ker-Lindsay_Explaining_Serbia’s_Decision%20to_go_to_the_ICJ.pdf In any case, I hope you found the video useful. Do consider subscribing, if you haven’t already, as I will be doing a lot more on Kosovo and the Balkans. Many thanks.

@GuntherFehlingerPaxEuropeana 4 года назад

you are amazing scholar -well done

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thank you so much, Gunther. Really appreciated! I hope all is well with you.

@knin1975 4 года назад

James, you do make some extremely good points, just like some commentators did too. There were some comments by some commentators that I did not like because there were just plain dumb, sarcastic and to some extent racist. Back to the point of the story of how many countries did or did not recognize Kosovo, it is important to note that some countries such as China, Russia, and perhaps Spain, Greece and Romania will "NEVER" recognize Kosovo because not only do they want to continue to have good relations with Serbia, but they have their own separatist movements within their own territories and there will be other countries with similar issues too. As they say, what goes around, comes around. In simple terms, lots of foreign pressure on small countries from big players, lots of payoffs from ALL SIDES (and I am not talking only about Albanians and Serbs). Media manipulations is perhaps the worst part of it, but perhaps the most profitable part of it too (aka PR).

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. Unfortunately, sometimes the comments section can indeed descend into insults. Sadly, but understandably, it comes with the subject! However, I am always really keen to have a debate with anyone who wants to be civil and is open to discussion. On recognition, you are very right. There are a lot of countries that are very concerned about separatist challenges. However, what I found interesting is how many countries faced with such situations did recognise Kosovo, such as UK and Canada. As you know, they adopted the arguments that it was a ‘unique case’ and recognised quickly in order to rather prove there was no link. I know that this argument was used on other countries - “recognise now and prove that Kosovo has nothing to do with your situation.” This worked in some cases, but didn’t in many others. Having said this, many of them have indicated that they aren’t opposed to an independent Kosovo. If Serbia accepts it, so will they. Even Cyprus, which at one point appeared to be willing to be more Serbian than the Serbs on this, seems willing to accept an independent Kosovo as long as its accepted by the UN. And you are very right about the pay offs. All sides - and their supporters - have done this. It certainly isn’t just Serbia and Kosovo.

@disquette8958 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay James, I'd like to add a couple of thoughts on the comment section, if you don't mind. I believe not all of it is genuine. It's undeniable that some of those comments may have been posted by simply malicious, rude, misguided or childish people for whatever their reasons. However, I've noticed this trend that has plagued many sites that allow for comment posting, regional and international, such as media sites and social networks, on topics with specific keywords. Comment sections underneath such topics tend to get swarmed with an unusually high amount of what seems to be troll accounts wreaking havoc by posting very undiplomatic, hostile and provocative comments, spreading hate, fear, lies, fake news, false info, being arrogant, using 'satire' or threats. This generates conflict, and if the place for discussion is international (like RU-vid with a video in English) it sends a very negative image about ethnicity or country a commentator supposedly represents, giving just the perfect excuse for anyone already slightly biased and not knowing better to further judge or dislike a people group or a country. For example, if I wanted to smear Serbia or its people, the best way to do my little part is by creating a fake profile with a Serbian name, pretend I'm a very patriotic Serb and post a very rude, hateful, irrational comment, arrogantly boasting some pseudo-history, insult as many people in the process as possible by insulting entire people groups, 'westerners' or 'Americans', etc. Now, if someone who previously knew nothing of Serbs sees 100 such comments, and not a single normal one, s/he might, even subconsciously, form an opinion. In such atmosphere it's difficult, and not particularly motivating to start a conversation online at all. Now, it's not up to me to ask the question who (maybe plural, if anyone) would stand behind such an effort, and to what an end, but it is there. I just know that it's a bit unsettling. It does look like someone is attempting to dictate online public discourse, public opinion and inter-ethnic relations with patterns of coordinated malicious effort. By sheer quantity and aggressiveness, it effectively drowns and discourages any attempts at wider reconciliation between people. So, a staged conflict and overwhelmingly one-sided and spoon-fed opinions, making an illusion of how the 'majority' thinks (until the illusion is no longer an illusion?). This entire region still has a tarnished international reputation, and it's struggling to repair it for decades now. Having an image of 'those people' behaving like complete lunatics and haters on the internet does no good. All that being said, I am truly sorry for any discomfort that you may have been put through, and consider that not everyone is like that, like I already believe you do. And thank you for creating amazing content!

@theconqueringram5295 4 года назад

I never knew that such a tiny piece of landlocked territory could cause such a ruckus in international relations. When it comes to Artsakh and Northern Cyprus the question is clear: they do not have significant recognition therefore they are legally territories of other states (Azerbaijan and Cyprus respectively). However, Kosovo is far more controversial, even a lot of citizens in foreign countries aren't sure if their governments recognize Kosovo. Kosovo's sovereignty might be disputed for many more years but that doesn't stop the Kosovar government from pursuing its own policies.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. You make a really good point about the value of recognition. Many international law scholars argue recognition doesn’t make a state. However, those from International Relations, myself included, argue that recognition necessarily plays a very significant role in statehood. Your point really makes that clear.

@Nista357 4 года назад

Kosovo will be the grave of Yankee hegemony and Western imperialism. Mark my words! Ever since US made a mess in Kosovo, they've been losing on all fields and all of this is just the beginning. There are undescribable forces and spirits tied to that small region and with its recklesness, evil and greed the US opened Pandoras box that will be its own demise!

@al-kosovi9985 4 года назад

@@Nista357 The US will always be with Kosovo. No matter what happens we will always have USA. And Kosovo, if it does become a part of Serbia (Which it will not because Kosovo will be united with albania in 2025) then serbia will have 2 million more albanians in their country and they can spread out in Serbia meaning that they can slowly become more and more. Or they could just start a war again which is not clever for both sides. I would say there is No turning back and becoming apart of serbia will not happen if there Are still albanians that live in Kosovo.

@Nista357 4 года назад

@@al-kosovi9985 Armenians and Greeks also thought the same when they were 40% of population in Turkey but look what happened to them in the end ;) No, dumby the US will be there as long as you lobby there with thousands of dolars and there are other factors too. They will have to leave sooner or later. You people are a shame. You don't have bread to eat, you live like beggars in the west but you lobby thousands of dolars every year to keep alive your "Illyrian" fairy tales. Turks were also here for hundereds of years but they also left. The whole world is getting sick of you Jihadis, very soon the Europe will too.

@user-tj2dj7vq2x 3 года назад

@@al-kosovi9985 Kosovo can't and won't join Albania in 2025, it's literally a declaration of war as Serbia still sees Kosovo as it's territory meaning that Albania is taking territory which Serbia sees as its own.

@qqqq6332 4 года назад

This video was fascinating, as are all your videos. I'm curious about Oman's recognition of Kosovo. If Oman has said that it would support Kosovo in Kosovo's bid for UN membership, then is there any de facto difference between that and actual recognition?

@andrejstef89 4 года назад

Maybe it could be interpreted in such a way, but I believe that Oman's statement actually entails that they would support Pristina's UN membership if it comes to a vote in the UN General Assembly, which means that a prior positive recommendations of the Security Council was made, which in turn means that no permanent member of the Security Council vetoed the application. In other words, Oman suggested that they would support their membership in the UN provided that international consensus was attained regarding this issues.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks so much. Very good question. In fact, on closer reading, the letter didn't even say that it would necessarily support Kosovo's quest to join the UN. It simply said that if Kosovo could pass the hurdles required to get in, Oman would be happy to welcome it. In other words, Oman was happy to let others make the final decision and then go along with it. Essentially, it knew that if the Security Council was willing to recommend Kosovo for membership, then there really would be no reason for it to take a position against it any longer and so might as well go along with everyone else. It really was a very cleverly crafted example of diplomatic opaqueness. But it is very easy how it could be so easily misinterpreted as recognition, especially if you really wanted to read it that way.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. Yes. That's exactly how I read it as well. If Kosovo could get the support of the US, UK, France, Russia and China, then there really would be no reason for Oman to oppose it and it would be happy to accept the decision of the rest of the world. Until then, it would just sit it out and not take a position - thereby meaning non-recognition.

@srbijasrbima7530 4 года назад

Serbia never surrendered. Check again, it was a case fire agreement, read 1244 UN Resolution.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Not this again. Yes, it surrendered. You can tell yourself whatever you want. And I’m not some western anti-Serb. (I go to Serbia frequently, my work has been translated into Serbian, I have been critical of the Ahtisaari Kosovo status process, I’m often quoted in the Serbian media, I have an affiliation with the University of Belgrade, etc.) But in 1999 Serbia had to relinquish control over a part of its territory. In case you didn’t realise, pretty much all wars (although it want even a war) end with ceasefire agreements. If you don’t like it, blame Milošević. He lost Kosovo for Serbia.

@srbijasrbima7530 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay You are not a Serb. You will never understand.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

So says every nationalist in the world!

@srbijasrbima7530 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay As I said . You just do not understand.

@ILLYRIAN-DARDANIAN-SACRA 3 года назад

Serbia will be soon part of Albania!! Vojvodina is Hungary

@bambina011 2 месяца назад

Fun fact: there are around 20, mostly African states, that unrecognized UDI, but Western media is silent about it, actually never mentions it.

@davelind4141 4 месяца назад

Professor, thank you for posting these videos. They are exciting, fascinating, and very helpful.

@mastermelon7443 4 года назад

Keep the great work!

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks! I hope you're enjoying them. Do let me know if you gave any suggestions for topics!

@miramaxted-page2225 3 года назад

Wrong 5 countries in E.U bib not recognise Kosovo and 18 countries change the mind 5 more are ready now 92 countries all together recognise

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

No. The figures are accurate. I’ve studied this for years. I’ve written books on this specific subject! These figures are accurate - plus one now that Israel recognised Kosovo.

@sharmakeabees4745 3 года назад

It was nice to know that

@cristianstanimirovic9287 3 года назад

My compliments for your professional work on those arguments. I want to ask you a question, is maybe a Faroe Islands model a good one for solve Kosovo albanians and serbian issue?

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Thanks so much, Cristian. Very good question. Unfortunately, I think that the opportunity for exploring various autonomy arrangements has passed. Kosovo wouldn't accept it, and would argue that why would it need to when it is recognised by the United States and the large majority of the EU. Also, I'm not sure that this would make sense for Serbia. Even if Kosovo were to accept extensive autonomy, it would also want to have a significant say in central government. They would want seats in the Parliament, ministries, probably a vice-presidency, ambassadors, army officers. Is this something that most people in Serbia would really want? I spend a lot of time in Serbia and most people in private readily admit that they wouldn't like this. So, all-in-all, while I think that this model could have worked at one stage, it couldn't now.

@cristianstanimirovic9287 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you very much for answered me, thank you for your time to, i'm very glad to hear your point of view.

@vericacvetkovic9093 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Albs first started coming to Kosovo from Alb in the early 15th century and usurped the land from Serbs at knife point. Then the Ottomans came, brought even more Albs to K and they converted to islam in order to join Turks in killing Serbs and gaining their property. They ALWAYS chose the enemy to fight against Serbs and rob them. After ghe Ottomans it was Austrohungarians in the WW1, then Germans and Italians in WW2 and NATO lately. It was always about killing and robbing. US is their partner in drug trade that comes in from Afgh via Turkey to Kosovo, where it's produced further, most likely at Bondsteel. It's a very lucrative busines for both sides. US is the most rotten govt in the world. They don't have double standards, but hundred standards. For each situation they make their own rules and standards and claim they are intl and can't be changed. That's what mafia does.

@siddiaz1623 4 года назад

Kossovo is Serbia right?

@lepikova 4 года назад

That's right! And it will always be.

@strahac6532 4 года назад

Yes !!

@sixstring4718 4 года назад

@aleksandarveskovic8652 4 года назад

Right.

@eldon2521 4 года назад

@mrk_997 4 года назад

Косово је Србија, живи и здрави били и довиђења.

@liss65544 4 года назад

Kosovo je Kosovo kid.

@goldenbrace5382 4 года назад

@@liss65544 Nah

@L_B16 3 года назад

@@goldenbrace5382 nah to you

@goldenbrace5382 3 года назад

@@L_B16 Resolution 1244

@L_B16 3 года назад

@@goldenbrace5382 wut

@louiseperriard 5 месяцев назад

Amazing video ! I'm curious about your view on de-recognition. I thought it was not possible under international law as stated in the Montevideo Convention (art. 6, "(...) Recognition is unconditional and irrevocable"). Thank's !

@brankavujasin4381 3 года назад

Bitni je priznanje samo jedne zemlje..Srbije.

@angrybird2672 4 года назад

If "Declaration of independence of Kosovo" is ever considered legal that would in practice mean that: Someone can come into your house, kill your parents and children, than kick you out, than bring his cousins and declare that your house belongs to him and that you are not welcome and that he is not guilty for murdering anyone because they are now majority. All that while police (USA) helps that someone. This is sadly, pretty realistic little story on how Albanians took over Kosovo province.

@ELio0001 4 года назад

Sounds like what happened in year 600 when slavs started migrating to the balkans and 600 years later around 1200-1300 at slavs peak of expansion, they called all their conquered land their own and now cry its the cradle of serbian culture

@angrybird2672 4 года назад

@@ELio0001 Well for such a claim far back in history you will need a really good historical evidence. Claiming that something happened in year 600 AC as same as what happened 20 years ago is lack of logic and knowledge. I don't know about the rest of the Slavs, but Serbs were on Balkans pretty much longer than any other nation. Findings of Vinca culture date to 6000 years back in history and it is Serbian in origin. Stone does not lie, and language neither. But I guess you never visited any museum. And what lands Albanians claim to have owned in 600 years AC on the Balkans, when the first time Albanian nation came to be known was in XIX century officially? First mention of Arnauts tribe was made by Serbs and Greeks, and it was in XII century. They were the mercenaries of Byzantine empire brought to fight Serbs and after defeat by our Emperor you were allowed to settle in area of today Albania and pay tribute as cattle herders. After Ottoman conquest you switched towards Ottomans and became their converted Muslim puppets in spreading over Balkans. After liberation of Serbia and Greece, AH empire rushed to create Albania in order to stop Serbs from reclaiming their territories and gaining access to the sea. Even Albanian language was invented in XIX century by Austrohungarian empire, and minding the ambitions of AH empire to conquer Balkans, you were created as artificial nation from various tribes living in the area. Turkish historians as well as Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians and AHs (until XIX century) did not mentioned Albanians as nation. No history, no language, no laws, constitutions, borders, kings... Just a bunch of tribes, outlaws and bandits. Now, minding claim of Illirian name, you literally don't have evidences for that. AH empire called Croats and Serbs - Illirians. Since AH empire created you official language claiming the meaning is pointless. What AH empire called Illirians, Illirians called themselves Croats and Serbs. They just passed the word onto you.

@vericacvetkovic9093 4 года назад

@@ELio0001 You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You are from Caucasus. Arrived in Albania in 1043 AD.

@suziukanovic42 4 года назад

@@angrybird2672 Well done. 👍

@agriiibc3508 3 года назад

The world is much more complicated than that idiotic simplistic example of yours

@MasaKoshi 4 года назад

Amazing video!! Very professional. This is very important. I see many academic papers just say 114 or 116. I will use this video as a reference for my master thesis about the relationship between Serbia and Kosovo. Thank you!!

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks so much. Yes, the 116 figure was always slightly too high. (And the 'Kosovo Thanks You' website should have corrected the figure.) 114 would be the maximum number of recognitions achieved before countries began withdrawing recognitions. Interestingly, the 'derecognitions' do seem to be ignored in many accounts. I'm not sure whether many observers don't think that they are legitimate, and so don't mention them, or whether, given the time taken to publish academic articles, and the fact that these changes are still recent, the literature just hasn't caught up? It will be interesting to see if this does feed through.

@MasaKoshi 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you for giving me additional information. This issue regarding the number of recognition is very interesting. I see some papers just simply refer to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kosovo. Maybe some scholars just support the position of the government of Kosovo... To me, what is interesting is that in 2020 Ivica Dacic stated 93 countries recognized Kosovo. I was wondering if it was the wrong information. But thanks to your video, I finally could understand why this confusion happens.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Masamichi Koshinaga Thanks. I’m glad it helped. Obviously, the figure is liable to change. The question is in which direction?

@MasaKoshi 4 года назад

@Mila Stošić Thank you for your recommendation. I have watched the film series(1st and 2nd films) . I probably don't use them as sources, but they are interesting.

@pripri632 4 года назад

@@MasaKoshi This guy Boris Malagurski is an intelligency officer and spread all over there Putin propaganda..

@Solo-vh9fm 2 года назад

Whilst I recognize Kosovo's independence personally it's pretty obvious that for most countries this issue is decided by being US allies and Russian/Chinese allies, and countries that had withdrew their recognition were those that had warmed up relations with Russia and China (such as Nauru which had also recognized Abkhazia).

@thedarkknight4243 Год назад

do a history video on Balkan and Yugoslavia and Serbia war.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks. I am planning to do one soon.

@dimba8119 4 года назад

Dear James, greetings from Kosovo. Very good and informative video. Why do you think these derecognitions are happening? Do you think it is a way of pressuring Kosovo to make a compromise on the final agreement? I would love to hear what you think.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thank you so much. I hope all is well at that end. I completely agree. I have always though that the recognition battle is really all about gaining leverage. I really don’t think Serbia expects to assert sovereignty over Kosovo again. Nor would it really want to. Even during the status talks, international officials asked if Serbia really wanted to ‘keep Kosovo’ if it meant having Albanians round the cabinet table, serving as generals and ambassadors, etc.? However, Serbia also knows that Kosovo can’t get full international acceptance until it agrees to its independence. (If you haven’t already, you might want to see my recent video on Bangladesh. That underscores the difficulty Kosovo faces to gain UN membership.) Belgrade knows that the fewer recognition there are, the stronger its position will be in any talks. The problem is that it is a fine line for the Serbian government. If it is too successful, the people might start to actually believe that they can ‘get Kosovo back’ and reject any final negotiated settlement. In other words, it needs and wants to be successful, but not too successful! That said, it is equally interesting to look at the debate in a Pristina. While I think many believe that a final settlement with Serbia isn’t needed, and that eventually Belgrade will have to just give up, I know that there are those who believe that the recognition battle could yet last for another decade or more and this will prevent Kosovo from joining the UN. They now see the value of trying to reach a final, historic deal with Serbia and wrap it up once and for all. Personally, I do believe in trying to reach a final agreement to end the matter and see Kosovo join the UN. The current situation is bad for Kosovo and for Serbia. Anyway, just my thoughts on it all. I’d be really keen to know how you see it from there?

@dimba8119 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay I don't know how well informed you are on the current political situation in Kosovo, but the current government has been voted out in a vote of no confidence due to pressure to make the dialogue a top priority and finally reach the deal. The majority of people want to reach an agreement as soon as possible, but there are concerns about what the deal will include. We are opposed to any idea that includes drawing borders on ethnic lines. The acting prime minister seems to think that there is a 'secret deal' between the presidents of both countries to divide Kosovo(or exchange territories with serbia).

@angrybird2672 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay View from Serbia. We expect nothing less than asserting sovereignty over Kosovo. We expect that rule of law will be possible so that every terrorist who committed crime against civilian population in Kosovo province be punished accordingly. We expect that all properties be returned to rightful owners and illegal owners punished. We expect for International community to make comment of ethnic cleansing over Serbs committed by Albanians. We expect that Court for crimes of UCK against ethnic Serbs and those Albanians who were in favor of staying with Serbia start working. We expect that every Albanian immigrant who illegally settled on Kosovo after 1999 be deported as it is practice in every civilized country. We expect that USA get back their depleted uranium they spread across Serbia (including Kosovo) and deposit it among their own population since WHO determined nuclear waste is good for health and we (Serbs and Albanians) do not consider cancer healthy. We expect from NATO to formally apologize for illegal aggression in 1999. We expect that Western media formally apologize for all the lies they said about Serbs during conflicts. We expect that Western media should be investigated and punished for creating stigma on Serbs. Do we expect too much?

@STASHYNSKYI 4 года назад

1244 .

@STASHYNSKYI 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay ...now look at reaction.

@perperius4714 4 года назад

97 - 4 frozen recognition.

@toxicgamers1113 4 года назад

even 97 is too much, you should check history and see how great the injustice has been done to the Serbs in the last 100 years. they were literally working to destroy one whole nation ... a state that is one of the oldest in Europe

@limanskipark021 4 года назад

You didn't mention many more states that didn't recognized kosovo.. Like Spain, Ukraine... And many more

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks a lot. Point taken. But I would just say that this wasn’t meant to be a video on which countries recognised Kosovo and which haven’t, and why they have made these decisions. This is a huge area. And it is one that I have done a lot of work on. (Here is my latest book that looks at just this subject and shows that recognition is actually more complicated than many realise: www.palgrave.com/gp/book/9783030179441) The purpose of the video is to try to identify the exact number of recognitions, which has become a political debate between Kosovo and Serbia. But I do intend to do more on Kosovo in future.

@rashabelgrade 2 года назад

Why are you talking about something you have no idea about

@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад

Thanks. It’s perhaps worth mentioning that I’ve written extensively on Kosovo. What’s more, my work on Kosovo has even been translated into Serbian. Not sure a publisher would have bothered to do this unless they felt I had something to say on the matter that would be of interest to people in Serbia. www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354 Also, I regularly comment on Kosovo and other issues in the Serbian press. So, I’d argue that I know at least something about it!? :-) Pozdrav iz Londona.

@rashabelgrade 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Our story about Kosovo and Metohija is a sad story. We Serbs do not know the full truth either. It is hidden from us. I am 49 years old and only a year ago I discovered that when the Turks came they first listed all the population and then according to their books in Kosovo and Metohija there were only 26 Albanian families and about 5,000 Serbs.Then this information that the British agreed to help us in the First World War on one condition that we do not expel the Albanians who were on the side of Austro-Hungary. This information was presented by one of our researchers who researched the London archives and wrote a book about it.There are more examples like this that shed new light on past events, so I said that those who draw their information from unreliable sources should not talk about Kosovo and Metohija because, as I said, we do not know everything because it is hidden from us for various reasons. especially from the time of communism.I did not intend to offend you, only this is too sensitive a topic for us. Greetings from Adelaide

@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад

@@rashabelgrade Thanks. It is indeed a sad story. And a story of missed opportunities. I understand the deep symbolism Kosovo has for Serbia. But there is also a reality of 1.5-2 million Kosovo Albanians who just don’t want to be part of Serbia. This might have been better able to manage if Milošević had not handled it so badly. He had also used up any goodwill in the early 1990s. The other problem is that any deal the Kosovo Albanians may have been possibly willing to accept would not have been acceptable to Serbia. So, unfortunately, we are where we are now. By the way, just as a tip, it’s usually not a good way to engage in a discussion by opening up with the view that someone doesn’t know what they are talking about! :-)

@rashabelgrade 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay However, I don't think you are qualified to discuss this, because when I read what you wrote, it's like watching the BBC.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад

@@rashabelgrade Sorry, but that ridiculous. I have quite literally written the book on state recognition battles. What did you want me to say? Make up lies? This is the situation. You may not like the fact that countries recognise Kosovo, buts that the way it is. Equally, many Albanian viewers might be annoyed that I have pointed out that many countries have rescinded their recognitions of Kosovo’s independence.

@majstorringo 3 года назад

A much more important question is why it is still the poorest part of Europe and after 22 years as they say they got rid of Serbia and Milosevic they cannot progress, the standard of living is convincingly the lowest in Europe, unemployment is the highest crime in Europe and corruption is in all institutions , human rights are at the level of an African country, no one wants to live in such a country, everyone runs away, both Albanians and Serbs ...

@lucagalic5073 2 года назад

Strange since Albanians took over it became like this under Serbian controll it was the most beautiful part of Serbia

@ukilectric 2 года назад

Kosovo is ruled by Albanian hyper nationalists, they don't care about anything else other than gaining statehood.

@klestidpoloska487 2 года назад

Yeah, im not sure if you are in the right channel. If you want to comment your nationalistic, biased and unreliable claims, i suggest you channels like @jesusisserbian, @kosovojesrbija, @nationalisticserbian

@majstorringo 2 года назад

@@klestidpoloska487 Bro listen to me, I know very well what I'm talking about and I'm not a nationalist, I know the situation in Kosovo perfectly because I live in it and everything I said is true, Albanians know that too, obviously only you pretend to be smart🤯🤯🤯

@aviationfansalbania2332 2 года назад

Becouse Serbia hasn’t payed for the genocide yet ! Many sources say the Serbian national state is going to pay to Kosovo 10 billion $ in 2022! And 2008-2022 are only 14 years ! In 2021 the Serbia recognizes the auto plates of Kosovo so the point is that Kosovo only way to development is union with Albania ! Or EU membership

@isandic 4 года назад

Thanks for video. Story begins 1999? Kosovo is over thousand years old Serbian land. Just look at Kosovo's sacral heritage and you'll find serbian monasteries and churches 8-12 centuries old as Decani, Banjska, Patriarchate of Pec, Devic, Gracanica... and 1.000 more. You will not find any Albanian monument older than 20 years. There are three main ugly reasons why western countries support Kosovo independence which has anything with care for Albanian people. First and most important reason is Kosovo lays on mines rich of gold and other precious ores, such as Mine Trepca (experts estimated value 200 billions USD). Western mining companies are fighting which will take it first. Second, Kosovo is highway ruote for narcotics from Afghanistan to European countries. Third, USA bilt there second largest military camp in Europe named Bondsteel - strategic very important. Nowdays Kosovo don't have any sign of independent country. Monatery politics, energetics, natural sources holds foreigner western countries. People are poor, youth unemployment rate is 61%. Kosovo is school sample of neocolonialism model of country. Conclusion, Serbs will never give up from bully abducted ancestral Kosovo and Metohija.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thank you, but seriously I have less than 7-15 minutes for each video. I deal with some of the most contentious disputes in world politics. If I try to delve into all the history of each issue, I would be making videos several hours long. And even then any value would immediately be destroyed by comments sections filled with people asking why I didn’t mention this or talk about that. My videos try to look at very specific questions and I try to focus on providing people who are unfamiliar with the situation with enough information to understand the context and significance of the question I am trying to answer. This video was about how many countries recognise Kosovo - not if Kosovo is Serbian or Albanian. So, thanks for the comment, but please try to understand what I am trying to achieve and that I try to take a balanced and objective approach in my videos - while still providing informative answers to the questions I post.

@isandic 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Dear James thank you very much for such a long explanation. Respect for your dedication. I understand your goal but the subject that you work on are very complex looking throught prism of geopolitical games. Serbs felts that especialy on their skins from western media labeled as barbarians, devils and what else... in last three decades. Serbia use to be western oriented country. It's still is. But western countries did so bad things that they pushed it in Russians and Chines hands. These days they are naming Serbia as Partner, Friend, Balkan leader country... Such ugly behavior. Stay healthy and all the best.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks, Igor. Points well made and well taken. I know that people in Serbia do feel very sensitive about Kosovo and the way their country is portrayed in the international media. I like to think I’m not anti-Serbian by any stretch. In fact, as well as having been very critical of the way the status process was run - www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354 - I know Serbia very well and spend a lot of time there. (I actually know Novi Sad particularly well.) However, I also passionately believe in the need for fair and final settlement between Belgrade and Pristina - for the sake of Kosovo and Serbia. In any case, thanks again for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. Best wishes and keep safe!

@vv-tg4xc 4 года назад

James Ker-Lindsay Albanians are authochonous to Kosovo, they have inhabited Illyria and Dardania(present day Kosovo) beginning with thousands of years before Serbs came in the 7th century. Genetics tests recently have also shown Albanian and Greeks are nearly indistinguishable. Further proving who the original inhabitants of these areas are.

@vv-tg4xc 4 года назад

Igor Sandic How can Kosovo be Serbian land when you only too control of it for not even a fraction of the time that Albanian have lived in this area. When you migrated in 6/7 century Albanians/Illyrians had been present for thousands longer. Your own dna shows you cluster with Slavs from Siberia and Ukraine. Facts can’t be denied.

@marijacvetkovic1965 Год назад

Why is professor not speaking about Scottish independence? I would love to see it as an independent country ♥️.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

I’m always amused at Serbs who think I’ll be terribly offended by calls for Scottish independence or Irish unification. I completely support the right of both territories to choose their future. I just wish more people in Serbia recognised that this would be the best way to approach Kosovo.

@marijacvetkovic1965 Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay You don't understand the Serbs, as much as we do not understand the westerners. I lived many years in the western Europe and you are still an enigma to me, just as we are to you.

@terdic 4 года назад

How do you think about what scholars of Int"l law often claim, namely, "Recognition cannot be withdrawn, so there can be no decrease on the number of recognizer". Moreover, should we take these withdrawal of recognition into consideration in determining the number of recognition?

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. Excellent question. I firmly believe that recognition can be withdrawn. Although, as I note in the video, it is extremely unusual. However, ‘de-recognition’ has to follow certain rules. It can’t just be a country saying that it no longer recognises Kosovo. It has to be a statement saying that it recognises Serbia’s sovereignty over the territory. A country can’t withdraw recognition and say that it doesn’t accept any claim of sovereignty over a territory. On the number of recognitions, I do in fact include withdrawn recognitions to reach my current figure of countries that have recognised Kosovo. It is now under a hundred by my calculations.

@draganmarkovic491 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay I believe that most countries which de-recognized are now saying that they do not support any unilateral actions and will only support future agreement of both sides...

@antunmk1 4 года назад

Mr James Ker-Lindsay thanks for the clear objective explanation

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks so much. I am glad you found it useful. Do let me know if there are any other topics you would like to see me cover.

@user-sd9mw5sy3q 3 года назад

You can't undetstang everything, if ypu are not from the area

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Not true. I understand it very well indeed. And many in Serbia believe that I understand it well enough that my work in Kosovo should be published in Serbian www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354 Really, I tend to find that people who say this are those who can’t or don’t want to explain the issues and so just say, “you don’t understand.”

@user-sd9mw5sy3q 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay that is the issue. You and everyone else should not enterfere in our buissnes, that is why there is a problem in the first place

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Ah, the other line of nationalists the would over: “You don’t understand it, get out of our business.” It doesn’t work like that. Actions have wider consequences. A conflict in the Balkans is felt far more widely. And there are moral issues. Does the international community stand by and ignore atrocities?

@user-sd9mw5sy3q 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay name me one atrocitie that Serbian people made in Kosovo

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

@@user-sd9mw5sy3q Seriously!? UN Resolution 1199 (1998) explicitly called out Serbia for its behaviour Gravely concerned at the recent intense fighting in Kosovo and in particular the excessive and indiscriminate use of force by Serbian security forces and the Yugoslav Army which have resulted in numerous civilian casualties and, according to the estimate of the Secretary-General, the displacement of over 230,000 persons from their homes, Clear enough! But I suspect this is not going to go anywhere useful. You’ve made your position obvious: “You don’t understand, it’s not your business, we should have been allowed to get on with our atrocities in peace.”

@FOLIPE 2 года назад

As it is said in Brazil, dura lex, sed latex - the law is hard but it bends.

@autismstrikesback 4 года назад

9:59 you forgot italy and france

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. But Italy and France still recognise Kosovo. This is a list of countries that have withdrawn recognition.

@autismstrikesback 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay France and Italy don't recognise Kosovo. The french president said he withdrew kosovo's recognition and the italian goverment said that they withdrew kosovo's recognition so yeah

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Seriously, that is just not true. France is absolutely clear that it recognises Kosovo! So is Italy. It would be huge news if they withdrew their recognitions and I would absolutely know about it. So, where did you get that information!? Wherever you got it, I would advise you to not use that news source in future. It is utterly and completely wrong.

@danishpatriot3648 4 года назад

Eyyyyy second Like and first comment (btw keep up the great work)

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks! :-)

@DD-pw3cu 4 года назад

Why has Kosovo received so much recognition, while others like Northern Cyprus have not?

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. An excellent question! I have been planning to do something on the 1983 Turkish Cypriot unilateral declaration of independence. It is a really interesting story, and goes a long way towards explaining the very different situations that Kosovo and Northern Cyprus find themselves in today.

@DD-pw3cu 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you! That would be very interesting

@johnc916 4 года назад

Master Of Fatality Not true. Turks had been living in Cyprus Since 1000s or earlier

@sukidrvoseca6473 4 года назад

One of thd reasons is that serbia is very well known to be in good relationship with russia , and that is basically calling america to be against you

@Hellou123 4 года назад

@@sukidrvoseca6473 yeah declare war against peasants in the middle of Europe , plan a genocide and then ask why big liberal nation are jumping you , i find it funny how you guys play the victim role , but have you ever thought that what your media and government are lying you and brainwashing for their interest?

@fatjonraci9453 3 года назад

Nice video James! Also, The Comoros this year had sent a letter to former Kosovo foreign minister (Behgjet Pacolli) claiming that they still recognize Kosovo’s independence and had never withdrawn it, even though Serbia claims that The Comoros is one of the countries that had withdrawn recognition in 2018

@L_B16 3 года назад

Oh my God i don't know how to thank you for a making a vid where people keep saying Kosovo is Serbia with Albanian comments and raging kids across all the comments below

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Hoping you left out “don’t” in that sentence! :-) But, yes, I’m am really grateful that the channel tends to attract a really great bunch of commenters. Lots of really considered contributions. But, then again, my approach and tone probably doesn’t sit well with those who aren’t interested in having a serious discussion about international affairs. I try to make it accessible, but it’s still rather focused on international law and politics. Anyway, I hope you enjoy it.

@L_B16 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay but bro u know what they did they killed thousands of my family back in 1998 and kicked my mom out before I was born tho

@acagamer1085 3 года назад

@@L_B16 its lay,only 3000 peoples is killed on Kosovo but,there is serbs,albanians and others not only albanians,UCK is reason for war on Kosovo,Kosovo is Serbia,goodbye.

@Lami_b 3 года назад

@@acagamer1085 116 countries says no and that make 60,1% of world 🗺 that recognize Kosovo (kosovën) you can says what you wish but the reality says no.

@Dushan88 4 года назад

China and Russia regional power???

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

I made it clear: China, Russia and other, regional, powers. Please don’t read things into this that aren’t there!

@danijelprljic5565 3 года назад

KOSOVO IS SERBIA 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸 WE WILL NEVER GIWE OUR COUNTRY

@lukacapak5112 3 года назад

Its 92 now

@catapetrovich6688 8 месяцев назад

Kenyan Alfred Mutua's palms must have been greased by the British to so boldly act after the Kosovo incident perpetrated by Kurti.

@danijelprljic5565 3 года назад

SO BASICALLY AMERICANS TOOK PART OF OUR COUNTRY...

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

I have spoken strongly about Kosovo's declaration of independence and how it went against principles of international law. (And my world has been published in Serbian www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354) However, I also understand that it might have been avoided if Milosevic had handled things better. But after Bosnia there was little international patience for his bad behaviour. While I am critical of how the West behaved in Kosovo, it is also time for more people in Serbia to acknowledge that Milosevic lost Kosovo for the nation! More to the point, there is no way that it can be reversed now. And what would Serbia even do with Kosovo if it did come under Belgrade's control tomorrow? Would people in Serbia really want to try to control almost 2 million unhappy Kosovo Albanians and spend lots of money to subsidise it - all the while having to give Kosovo Albanians seats in the parliament and government and lots of government jobs? I don't think so. The question is how Serbia can negotiate some sort of settlement.

@vericacvetkovic9093 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay When the criminals negotiated with Milosevic about Kosovo they deliberately made it totally unacceptable, so that he wouldn't sign it and go ahead and bomb YU. They even admitted it themselves. NATO terrorists bombed us illegally, without the approval of UNSC, they used DU and cluster bombs, both banned. Amother thing, after they bombed a place, they waited 15 or 20 minutes for people to come and help the injured, and then they came back and bombed again, and killed even them. THAT'S HOW EVIL THEY ARE. I am sure they will burn in hell for what they did. They deserve every minute of it. The worst criminals that ever existed. The Albs who didn't support KLA were all tortured and killed. There are people who were happy to live in Serbia. Those who don't want Serbia can go out. Their friends can take them with them to US, UK or Germany. They boycotted the census because they didn't want anybody to find out that there were NOT 2 million of them, as they claimed.

@ukilectric 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay I'd like to hear your opinion on what "some sort of settlement" looks like, it doesn't seem like much can be negotiated if Kosovo was to be granted independence?

@dimitrijetrikic8193 3 года назад

Serbia didnt just surender like that...u forget to mention that we were bombarded for 70 days...2500 civilians were killed...

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

I always mention the 78-day NATO air campaign.

@drinimene9126 3 года назад

Why should it be that significant? I mean, in all wars happened (including all wars that Serbia won) civilians were killed. Not to mention that the civilians of the Albanian ethnicity of the 1999 war was three to four time as much.

@vericacvetkovic9093 2 года назад

@@drinimene9126 But you asked for it, we didn't. You got what you wanted, so-called state and cancer.

@MrChuckya 2 года назад

As a Serb, I believe it is no longer in our interest to claim sovereignty over Kosovo. What bothers me though is, if we do indeed recognize Kosovo, why shouldn't other disputed regions be allowed to do so?

@taurondur Год назад

To mislim i ja! Ako može Kosovo, zašto ne onda Republika Srpska? Pozdrav iz Slovenije!

@MrChuckya Год назад

@@taurondur Pa čak i Kalalonija. Mislim, u kojim kontekstima se poštuje međunarodno pravo, a u kojem ne? Razumljivo je da se puno srba osećaju kao da postoje dvostruki aršini protiv njih. Pozdrav iz Novog Sada!

@taurondur Год назад

@@MrChuckya Pa i ja tako mislim da su u pitanju dvostruki standardi! Inače ja sam muzičar i sviram u glavnom na ulici več 30 godina. To spominjem, jer sam 7.maja ove godine baš prvi put svirao u Novom Sadu..bilo mi je super! Veoma lep grad i srdačni ljudi..

@Gold26502 3 года назад

could u give your own opinion? as of 2020 almost 2021 do you think kosovo will finally reach independence? or are things not looking so great right now, what do you think?

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Thanks. Really good questions. My own view is that Kosovo is independent now. There is no chance of it rejoining Serbia. But it’s ability to become a full member of the international community and join the UN still relies on Serbian acceptance of that independence. This is the strange situation it finds itself in. The problem is that the EU led talks on normalisation are moving very slowly. I just don’t think there is enough pressure on the two sides to reach a historic compromise that would see the issue resolved. And I’m not sure it will happen any time soon, unfortunately. Needless to say, I’m following the situation closely and hope to do updates if anything major happens.

@Gold26502 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thankyou so much for your input, i hope that everything will be resolved without any extreme decisions and both parts will be left satisfied, i really want what's best for both sides hopefully my kosovo citizens will get the independece they deserve very soon, i wish this situation would be resolved sooner its taking really long and its leaving both sides very anxious, Anyways thankyou for observing your situation and i really like your unbiased opinions, keep up the good work :D

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

@@Gold26502 Thank you. Yes, I hope it is all resolved soon. It is not good for Kosovo and it isn’t good for Serbia. They both need to move on and start building a proper relationship as neighbours and, hopefully one day, as partners in the EU.

@hiitsevanator151 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay as neighboors with our own province?😂 You’re out of your mind dude hhahahaha. Also Kosovo is not near independet right now it’s basically american colony in balkans.

@hiitsevanator151 3 года назад

With those 5 countries that announced soon whitedraws, kosovo* breaking the UN law again this month with very bad reaction from turkey and arab union, france politician turning to serbian side, serbs becoming a majority and moving back to many villages and areas, serbian birth rate in Kosovo* rising and albankan falling and the fact that our president feels free to post map of kosovo* with serbian flag over it which he don’t usually do, yeah I would say that things don’t look very bright on your side😂

@ninamilanovic6999 4 года назад

Kosovo has been always Serbian !!!

@artor._ 3 года назад

Continue dreaming

@miloskocic1759 3 года назад

@@artor._ HAHAHAHAHAH two albanians triggered

@artor._ 3 года назад

@@miloskocic1759 your opinion isnt needed right now

@blacks_life_doesnot_m..... Год назад

Kosova has been always Albanian a🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

@leonpascar9676 4 года назад

I think that the greatest obstacle for Kosovo is the fact that Russia refuses to recognize the country and prevent it from joining the UN. Recognition of countries that can veto is more significant than the total number of recognizers.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks for the comment. Of course, you’re right. I didn’t touch on it directly in this video, but Kosovo’s key objective is UN membership. For that it will need Russian and Chinese support. However, while UN membership is very important, it is also important to understand in what ways it is really significant. I’m not sure if you’ve seen it, but I’ve also done a video on just this topic ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQ0Lfe8jVBI.html

@leonpascar9676 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thanks for sharing the link, a very interesting point of view about this topic.

@lewiscampbell59 4 года назад

what does this mean for Serbian and Kosovo EU accession?

@ukilectric 2 года назад

Not going anywhere anytime soon.

@MrsInesMiranda Год назад

Very much appreciate your input, Professor James!

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you!

@Ribizlaupm 4 года назад

94 countries that hasn't recognized false Kosovo state they have 5.4 billion population, while 2.05 billion people living in countries that have recognized Kosovo.

@EgliLika09 3 года назад

By that logic, no matter what everyone else thinks, if China and India agree to a thing they're basically 1/3 correct?

@brobot_8371 3 года назад

because of india and china

@awesomeboy4353 4 года назад

Will serbia and Kosovo reach a deal

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

The big question! I certainly hope so. And I think that it is more than possible with the right political will on both sides. I have been working on this for almost fifteen years. The whole story has taken a lot from both Kosovo and Serbia. It would be good to see it resolved.

@totalice734 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6STy_mLH6-s.html

@ismaciilcabdillahiyuusuf2650 3 года назад

Yes and yes,, Mr ker- Lindsey,, from Somaliland rep,, thanks

@Entertainment-th4kb 11 месяцев назад

9:44 Not 2018 but 2017.

@leexa2857 3 года назад

*UN RESOLUTION 1244*

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Leexa 28 Yes. I am aware of it. But half the UN has decided that there are sufficient grounds to recognise Kosovo and the ICJ has ruled that Kosovo’s unilateral Declaration of Independence was not contrary to international law, despite the existence of Resolution 1244. So, I’m not really sure what your comment meant. Perhaps you could explain?

@leexa2857 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay im lazyy its where kosovo cant be independent only self administrstion

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

It doesn’t exactly say that. It says that Kosovo was considered to be under continued Serbian sovereignty, but would be under UN administration until its final status could be determined. So, the door was left open to a final settlement, potentially including independence. This was the UN process in 2006-2007. When that failed, and Kosovo unilaterally declared independence, countries made their decision on whether to recognise Kosovo as a state or not.

@leexa2857 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay okay i respect ur opinion but when i read it it says like it can be self administration but not independence

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Leexa 28 To be fair, it is ambiguous. It does talk about Yugoslav sovereignty and self-rule. But it also talks about a future status. This is the problem. It can be read in whatever way either side wants. Anyway, it was good discussing it. As you can see, I try to encourage informed debate here.

@VIC-hx2ny 4 года назад

would it be possible the exchange of territories of north Mitrovica for presevo valley and accepting a possible integration of Kosovo in Albania?

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. I hope all is well with you! Really good question. This has obviously been raised as a possibility. However, it has a lot of opponents. Personally speaking, I believe that a final, historic agreement that ends the dispute and allows Kosovo and Serbia to accept each other and build a new relationship is vital and that the two sides should be allowed to pursue any options that conform with international law. However, again, any talk about territorial changes is a highly controversial discussion.

@gmil9351 4 года назад

James Ker-Lindsay As a Serb I would accept Kosovo’s independence if they agree to give us Northern Mitrovica (my main reason for this is because its populated by Serbs). With Serbian recognition Kosovo would gain full legitimacy and they will also be recognised by the rest of the world. A lot of my countrymen do not agree with this but it is the only solution as I believe that Kosovo is lost to us forever as it is populated by almost 2million Albanians (the reasons why we lost it are long and irrelevant now but I blame a lot of it on our incompetence and Albanian competence). I believe this is the only meaningful way we can both move forward.

@dimba8119 4 года назад

@@gmil9351 Hello, Kosovo albanian here. While all albanians in Presovo and president Vucic would want this too happen, it is highly controversial. PM Albin Kurti fears that if this were to happen, the albanians of North Macedonia would want to join this union. I disagree myself because with NATO and EU integration, both Albania and N. Macedonia are more stable and will focus more on other issues.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thank you so much for the comment. Personally speaking, I tend to agree. I have long argued that a territorial settlement shouldn’t necessarily be excluded if this means teaching a historical settlement. However, we both know that this is very controversial in Serbia, Kosovo and for parts of the international community. However, reaching a final settlement between Serbia and Kosovo is worth pursuing. Both sides stand to gain enormously.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks again. I know there are fears about North Macedonia. However, I think that this can be contained. The same applies to the question of RS in Bosnia. However, I do understand why many are nevertheless nervous about this. I think the NATO/EU element is very important too.

@JohnnyWalker1077 Год назад

For general understanding of this region and the Serbian-Albanian conflict: I'll go a little deeper into the past: Albanians have officially been a majority in Kosovo since 1899. On the one hand, this meant that the orthodox Serbs were forced by the Ottoman side to leave this region. See 2 great migration waves of 1690 & 1739. These practically empty areas were filled with Muslim populations again by the Ottomans in the following years. That's why, for example, 99% of the Albanians in Kosovo are Muslim. On the other hand, the Serb remnants from the 1870s were further thinned out over the decades by Albanian pressure and violence, so that the Serbian population percentage decreased from 64% to 44% between 1871 & 1899, with Albanians growing from 32% to 48% . In the years of the Second World War between 1939-1945 a separate Albanian militia was founded. This Albanian militia in Kosovo drove out numerous Serbs during this period. After the German occupation in 1943, the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS "Skanderbeg" (Albanian No. 1) was set up on May 1, 1944, mainly from Albanian volunteers from Kosovo, since the occupying regime in Albania had already lost its support . This division was primarily intended to fight against Yugoslav partisans. The members of the division, which never got to the front and was only used by the Wehrmacht for guard duty, expelled around 10,000 Serbian families and murdered numerous Serbs and Jews. Finally, according to the census from 1939 to 1999, the number of Serbs fell from approx. 34% to 10%. Since the 1999 war until now, there are less than or equal to 3% Serbs in this area. Here I ask myself: Why are the Serbs constantly demonized about this the past 20 years? They haven´t been Saints in the 90´s, this is true. But neither the Albanians have been. What the people NEED to know more about as well, is the past of the Serbs. Btw Mr. Ker-Lindsay I discovered your channel a few days ago and I watched like 10 videos in a row. I really like how you deal with all topics objectively from all perspectives. This is exactly what it has to look like when it comes to history and politics. I really hope that many more people will come across your channel in the near future!

@nishu413 Месяц назад

Well made video

@JamesKerLindsay Месяц назад

Thank you very much. One of my older ones!

@STASHYNSKYI 4 года назад

Kosovo has 48% of recognized country.But even if they have more than 50 it's not about number.There is resolution 1244 and the many others things.Kosovo was over 1000 yrs Serbia and it will be.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks. Yes. This video was solely about the number of countries that have recognised Kosovo. I didn’t touch on questions of what this means in real terms, such as joining the UN. I have done a couple of videos on UN membership, which set out what needs to happen (including getting the support of all 5 permanent members) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XIkZpPaWzQQ.html and in what ways it does and doesn’t matter ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XIkZpPaWzQQ.html I hope to look at Kosovo in more details in other videos.

@perpaimbe8849 4 года назад

Kosovo is recognized by 116 stated and most of them are western democratic counties , from 17.02.2008, UN Resolution 1244 is dead, also dead is dream of Serbia to take Kosovo under control.

@slod.3712 4 года назад

@@perpaimbe8849 Where is the new UN Resolution concerning Kosovo? When did the security counsil announce it? As far as I know without a new resolution 1244 is still in place.

@jaymod9111 4 года назад

Kosovar here: It makes no difference how many country recognizes us. My daily routine wont change if Australia recognizes us or not.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Yes and no. In some ways, recognition doesn’t appear to matter. As you say, you don’t care if Australia has or hasn’t recognised. But, in other ways, it matters a lot as it allows for the creation of fully normalised relations. This helps with developing political, economic, social, educational ties. This can produce all sorts of spin offs that might affect your life. Better trade. More scholarships. Easier travel. Improved knowledge exchange. Also, recognition is about building up support to join various international organisations that could be beneficial. So, you probably don’t think a lack of recognition affects your daily life. But this is maybe not the way to look at it. Instead, your daily life could potentially be improved by more recognitions. If you see what I mean. Also, as my recent video on Northern Cyprus shows, you would certainly feel it if Kosovo had no recognitions! (By the way, Australia has recognised. It was in the first wave in 2008.)

@jaymod9111 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay You are right about the benefits. I just consider "recognition" like "yeah lets do business" aka. you have something I need from you and vica versa. Most countries which didnt recognizes us have nothing/little to gain and/or a lot to loose if they do. Best example is Spain: We dont do a lot of business with them => Spain doesnt gain much recognizing Kosovo but it could cause trouble at home (Catalonia). Thanks for the info because I didnt know that Australia had recognized us.

@oceanweatherandmapping9414 3 года назад

Update Israel now recognized kosovo

@arlindhysa7334 4 года назад

Dear James. I'd like to add something regarding to the recognition of Kosova. Before the Brussels Agreement when the talks began, Serbian officials somehow used the talks on their favor in order to stop the recognition. They sent the official letters to the countries that hadn't recognized the independence a request to stop considering the recognition because we are have negotiations with Kosovars and it would harm the peace agreement. So, they knew that the talks will last for a long period of time so we have a new situation that many countries are more reserved especially the ones that have political ties with Russia or China, and other countries that have inner problems. However, the case of Kosova was considered as a sui generis and it must be seen as a unique case and incomparable with other conflicts in the world.

@stefanmandic4438 4 года назад

It's usefull to mention reasons behind both sides... Even though national majority in Kosovo are albanians that land was where serbia was established as a medieval country like 1100AC so huge historical and cultural heritage of serbia is there, hundreds of churches and monuments which were heavily damaged during transition period... Also a battle for Kosovo field which is basicly heart and soul of serbian history took place there...In the battle against Osman empire both sides were destroyed with both royalties slayed during the bloodbath... New osman forces emerging meant 500 years of slavery for whole balcan... Then during the NATO bombing 90 a large amount of uranium was left there so kosovo today has highest rate of cancer victims in europe... Sad story for everyone after all.

@ILLYRIAN-DARDANIAN-SACRA 3 года назад

Stefan you are a Albanian too, ask your grandparents 😂. You real name is Dardan 🇦🇱🇽🇰

@drinimene9126 3 года назад

You don't have to see the issue so single sided. Even if you were right about the history of Kosovo, it is so far from fair or reasonable, the history to dictate the present or the future. Just imagine how bad and confusing would it be.

@vericacvetkovic9093 2 года назад

@@ILLYRIAN-DARDANIAN-SACRA Stefan is Illyrian, you are from Caucasus.

@luka8647 4 года назад

it's very simple, Kosovo is Serbia 🇷🇸

@erionthaqi4200 3 года назад

Its very simple if you go and learn kid, Im just going to say 17.02.2008 (Independence)

@agriiibc3508 3 года назад

Your brain is simple.

@Ghost_Gosling 3 года назад

Its very simple you look gay

@rs7997 3 года назад

Your mom is mine that's simple too

@Belisarius2 7 месяцев назад

I don't understand why you deleted my comment?

@JamesKerLindsay 7 месяцев назад

I didn’t. Sometimes RU-vid will delete comments. It even happens to me. Assuming it wasn’t offensive, then I am sorry about that.

@Belisarius2 7 месяцев назад

@JamesKerLindsay Thanks for responding so promptly. I don't think I was saying anything offensive, but maybe I can be wrong. I like your videos and your neutral style you approach debate.

@user-dl8xm4kz4i Год назад

I think that the serbian government does not want this conflict resolved, the words most politicians use in serbia are: 1. jews waited 2000 years, than we can wait a 100 or more 2. other serbs will get it back, when serbia is in a better position to do so 3. As long as kosovo isnt recognized by serbia, we can always get it back later, normalization is ok, for the rest we can wait 5. before the ottomans we were here, after them we were here and after they (albanians) are gone we will be here.

@serbia7400 3 года назад

Kosovo Is Serbia 🇷🇸

@Nista357 4 года назад

Who ever agrees with Kosovo independence, also agrees with military conquest and approves the use of genocide in order to get territorial gains. So far, very good work James.

@dimba8119 4 года назад

Well documented genocide committed on the albanian population of Kosovo. I cannot believe how Serbia plays the victim in this.

@Nista357 4 года назад

@@dimba8119 What genocide? 😂😂😂 You call 5.000 casualties in a war that lasted for two years between 100+ participating nations and various groups of terrorists a "genocide"??? 😂😂😂 The only one who is playing victim are Albanians.

@dimba8119 4 года назад

@@Nista357 12k civilians dead, 20k raped women and 1.5k still missing. The "terrorists" were defending our people from the real terrorists that were fascist regime of Serbia in that time. They did the same in Bosnia. NATO had to act to stop those atrocities.

@dimba8119 4 года назад

@@Nista357 And just what are you talking about 100+ nations? Are we talking about the same thing? You seem to know your stuff 😂😂😂

@babyandanimals4504 4 года назад

@@Nista357 you are lying you said, 5000 dickhead. and it's 8,676 and 863,000 expelled I know that are cute numbers to you cuz you did a lot more in Bosnia 31,583 civilians killed!!!!!! WTF and they killed only 4,179 civilians wtf dickhead learn numbers. People who lost lives because of NATO bombs were soldiers dickhead do the research. And I know you cry about your churches but look at this Of the 498 mosques in Kosovo that were in active use, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) documented that 225 mosques sustained damage or destruction by the Yugoslav Serb army. I know for you 8.676 lives are like a joke but not to us that's why they bombed shit of you and left your country in paralyse.

@ultrafact4683 2 года назад

Love you from india

@deskdeks2270 3 года назад

Mr. James, you did not say that 5/7 of the world's population, more than 5 billion people do not recognize Kosovo

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

desk deks No, I didn’t. But then people don’t recognise states.

@deskdeks2270 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay You Westerners only admit what suits you!?!?

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

As it happens, this Westerner raised serious concerns about the way Kosovo became independent. www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354

@deskdeks2270 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay online.flipbuilder.com/szto/mnva/mobile/index.html

@JamesKerLindsay 3 года назад

Look, I’m sorry if I came across harshly. I didn’t mean to. It ms been a long day! I know the point you were making. I said very clearly in the video that Kosovo isn’t recognised by Russia and China. But then people from Kosovo that it is recognised by the world’s richest countries. Frankly, it is all rather pointless. In the UN each state has one vote. China is the same as Nauru. The US is the same as Mozambique. Rich or poor, massive population or small population, they’re all the same in the UN General Assembly. And in the Security Council, Serbia has Russia and China and Kosovo has US, France and UK. It is a stalemate, neither Serbia nor Kosovo can win. They need a final deal. Hopefully that will happen and this issue can be resolved. It has gone on too long and serves no one, Serb or Albanian.

@ErmalTahiri 3 года назад

Update: Israel has officially recognized Kosovo 🇽🇰🤝🇮🇱

@TaskForce-js1vy 3 года назад

Damn, that sucks

@ErmalTahiri 3 года назад

@@TaskForce-js1vy sucks for you 🤣🤣🤣

@TaskForce-js1vy 3 года назад

@@ErmalTahiri sucks for the people living there, for peace on balkan and for the envirovment 😂

@ErmalTahiri 3 года назад

@@TaskForce-js1vy LMAO why would that affect us? elaborate? 🙈

@TaskForce-js1vy 3 года назад

@@ErmalTahiri it's affecting you since your "independence" 😚

@nemanjaj8903 2 года назад

Why force them to be part of Serbia... they moved to the Serbian territory in hundreds of thousands over the course of years and now are a majority... This is a big lesson for other countries not to let the same happen. It's Serbia today, might be anyone else tomorrow 🙄

@ukilectric 2 года назад

They're a minority in autonomous territory of a sovereign state that was guaranteed border integrity by participation within UN.

@guestmf6810 2 года назад

"Moved there over the years" *literally came in medieval while Albanians have autochtonous DNA*

@izadariskadar8589 4 года назад

First recognition Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Texas California, New Mexico, Lusatia, Rumelia, Catalonia ...P.S. Kosovo and Metohija is right

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

So, tell me, how would you solve the issue?

@izadariskadar8589 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Albanians have a home country, so Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija get what national minorities in other countries have. It is necessary to check what rights Serbs have in Albania.

@altinkryeziu2812 3 года назад

@@izadariskadar8589 And why don't you check the rights of Albanians in southern Serbia. Presheva is the only town in Serbia that doesn't have a hospital just because it inhabited by a majority of Albanians. 75% of Albanians in southern Serbia are unemployed and the Serbian government doesn't really care about them even though they're Serbian citizens

@Sava.S 3 года назад

As a young Serbian i propose Kosovo to be a golden ground where Serbians are allowed to visit Kosovo and live in Kosovo do business in Kosovo with Albanians, if we our banned from Kosovo with force our government and me personally will never recognize Kosovo, Kosovo is not Greater Albania and it will never be!

@drinimene9126 3 года назад

I wish all of your generation thought the same and one day to vote to be reality. I am sure that in this way both Albanians and Serbs are having a bad time.

@albanianpotato8962 2 года назад

Most Kosovo people don't even want to be in Albania, all we want is to be Kosovo. And to be truly honest, you are the true haters here. If you pay the compensation for the war which Serbia should definitely do... in 10 years we will be really good friends. And yes, I respect that we should let Serbians come to Kosovo, but do you realize what Serbia did in Kosovo 20 years back and yet we don't have any compensation in money from Serbia?

@igor7195 2 года назад

@@albanianpotato8962 If cockroach was born in kitchen,it doesn't mean that kitchen belongs to cockroach.

@zealandia5668 2 года назад

Kosovo has set up a dangerous precedent in international politics. Under the current international law system, a sovereign state's territorial integrity must be respected, so Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence is deemed a violation of international law. The Western countries, despite being influential in international politics, have been practising double standards throughout history. For example, in the current Russia-Ukraine conflict, the Western countries are accusing Russia of violating Ukraine's territorial integrity, but in the Serbia-Kosovo conflict, Serbia's territorial integrity was not violated. If Kosovo can successfully become a UN member state, then Catalonia, Scotland, Texas, Tibet, and Western Australia could soon follow the same procedure. India might split into more than 500 small countries.....

@Solo-vh9fm 2 года назад

Serbia lost its right to Kosovo just like with Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia, when it was trying to do a Stalin on their populations. Kosovo was never annexed by anyone, it's not a puppet of Albania by any means, an annexation by Albania would never be recognized by the West. The West puts Kosovo's case a sui generis just because they can't be left with Serbia, and the only difference between them and the other post-Yugoslav countries is that Serbia just won't go despite having barely modern history with Kosovo outside of them both being in Yugoslavia. Ukraine, on the other hand, was a pretty peaceful country before Russia invaded Crimea and sent in resources to arm separatists in regions that had originally voted for independence from Russia in 1992. Russia has already annexed Crimea (which like with any gift you can't just legally claim back from someone) and it clearly has plans for more. And it's obvious that Donetsk and Luhansk are just Russian puppets and none of Russia's actions in Ukraine had been authorized by the UNSC. In summary, one country collapsed before any intervention and would have been much worse without and the other was a peaceful and relatively unified state before another came into it without any authorization. Recognition of Kosovo had nothing to do with self-determination and it can't set a precedent for Crimea before it was never annexed.

@zealandia5668 2 года назад

@@Solo-vh9fm If your theory holds true, then Somaliland should have received universal recognition now. As far as I know, one country collapsing doesn't give its constituent parts the right to secede from its parent state. There are obviously double standards in international politics.

@Solo-vh9fm 2 года назад

@@zealandia5668 actually no because Somaliland voluntarily gave up its independence and international law doesn’t permit reclaiming independence just as it doesn’t permit reclaiming territory you voluntarily gave up. James actually did a video about it

@zealandia5668 2 года назад

@@Solo-vh9fm Exactly. So why is Kosovo able to gain independence without reaching an agreement with its de jure parent state first? Can Catalonia do the same?

@Solo-vh9fm 2 года назад

@@zealandia5668 Because Serbia would never let it become independent in pretty much any circumstance. They didn't try to ban Albanian language schools and ethnically cleanse the local population for no reason. That war didn't come out of nothing you know. Spain has never tried to commit a genocide against Catalonians, you're deliberately skipping parts of my comment.

@jiggingmaster5319 Год назад

Spain does not recognize, and it never will do (if Serbia does not agree that is ok with his law the unilateral independence of his part /region) Spain is not goint to let Kosovo be a member of U.E) that is important, not only how many countries recognize

@freezing5 9 месяцев назад

Let's not forget that the territory of Kosovo has always been rich in minerals. Typically, there has been little trickle-down effect on local population living standard but typically, too strife along national, language and cultural lines has been incited to disguise the economic goals.

@Burimenzi 3 года назад

Guys, focus on future. Serbs and Albanians were, are and always will be neighbours ❤️🇦🇱🤝🇷🇸❤️

@ledio.m 3 года назад

Wait, a noon hating (serbian or albanian). I want to go to moon rn. For 10 years we will forget the past

@Burimenzi 3 года назад

Im albanian but im sure there are many serbs thinking the same way :-)

@momokko6095 3 года назад

🔪🇦🇱. 🇪🇸🇷🇸💓

@ledio.m 3 года назад

@@momokko6095 Thats the people we dont want... like you😔🤦🏻‍♂️

@najjssxd7357 2 года назад

@@Burimenzi I would love to, but to be honest, neither will give up on their goals and neither would try to be reasonable and objective and this will continue for a long time. Let's see what will Open Balkan bring unless someone again doesn't interfere and causes chaos. Greetings!

@goranpetrovic2321 3 года назад

More and more countries have revoked their statehood. Not in UN, not in Unesco, never will be. Always Serbian

@nikola_tomic 4 года назад

Here is something from a serbian point of view. Would we like to regain a control over entire territory of Kosovo? Answer is no, and u are 100% right. Most of Serbs were exiled from Kosovo, so controlling that territory would mean constant conflict with KLA, many deaths for no reason. So why aren't we recognizing Kosovo as a country. First of all, there are a lot of Serbian monuments, monasteries and historical sites on that territory, it is a birthplace of our nation. Second it is a red line, that directly attacks our sovereignty. Third it is our way to settle the acount with western Europe, mostly Germany. Play it on a Europe soft belly point, and be the Russian trojan horse, even if u are not, why? Because that scares them. That's just my opinion. All the best

@ELio0001 4 года назад

Who was there before Slavs came in in year 600 and reached its peak in 1400? Who's land did the slavs settle on for it to be the birth of serbia? You can move into a region and now claim it's yours because it's your birthplace. It is your birthplace on paper but to the people there, there was a time when you were not there and now you run around saying its your birthplace. By that logic, anyone can come in your country, controll it, make monuments and 600 years later claim it's their birthplace because of all the monuments..not a good point to make. As far as I see it, since slavs came in the year 600, reached its peak by year 1300 and that was that. Your birthplace is where you came from not your most expansionist peak.

@zoranlakic85 4 года назад

@@ELio0001 Before Slavs come to Balkan, there ware Serbs living for 6000 years on it already. making and developing culture, writing and science.

@vericacvetkovic9093 2 года назад

@@ELio0001 IT WAS ALWAYS SERBIAN LAND. WE ARE THE NATIVES OF HELM BALKAN. IT WAS YOU WHO CAME TO ALBANIA FROM THE CAUCASUS IN 1043 AND SETTLED THERE. GET THAT FOR ONCE.

@ELio0001 2 года назад

@@vericacvetkovic9093 albanopolis existed in modern day albania for more than 2000 years soo not sure what to say here . Ptolemy mentions Albanians in modern day albania in 200 BC. Unless Ptolemy was a Serb hater than I feel for you. Sad day for Serbia

@fadilajdinovic1 2 года назад

All Bosnian people revognise Kosovo, but all know Bosnia cant recognise Kosovo because Republic of Serbia

@nemanjajovanovic2957 2 года назад

U tom slučaju treba da se da nezavisnost i Republici Srpskoj, jer priznavati nezavisnost Kosova a ne dati nezavisnost Republici Srpskoj je licemerno.

@Evemeister12 2 года назад

Interesting that the West intervened in the Serb-Kosovan conflict in the interest of protecting a "persecuted group", yet lectures/berates Russia for having done the same in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

@humongoushugo6986 2 года назад

You forget that Yugoslavia was the last socialist state left in Europe - it absolutely had to be dismantled.

@boboluksy1697 2 года назад

Kosovo and Metohija is the name of Southern Serbian Province. It has been for ages and for ages it will remain as such.

@SteveRadich1928 Год назад

Yeah the name will remain the same but thats about it. serbia is getting smaller and smaller, Vojvodina is next!

@ImmolationBloom 4 года назад

Keep in mind countries that failed to agree with the United States faced heavy trade sanctions. It’s all fun and games with equality until a super power decides to levy ridiculous trading taxes against you for not being agreeable when they tell you to. Why do you think Costa Rica was one of the first countries to sign for Kosovo’s “independence”. Guessing that’s not the same independence the Albanian KLA forces have Christians in Bosnia right? The second the Albanians get murdered back and the whole world weeps when previous years of atrocities had a blind eye turned to them.

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

There is no doubt that there was a huge amount of lobbying going on, especially in the period from 2008 until around 2013. Since then, it has declined dramatically for a number of reasons. In fact, I have written about this at length and about Serbia's campaign to prevent Kosovo's international recognition in this book: global.oup.com/academic/product/the-foreign-policy-of-counter-secession-9780199698394?cc=ro&lang=en&

@AnaB012 2 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay It wasn't lobbying, but in most cases clear blackmailing.

@davidfilipgoransanja 4 года назад

Well in future Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija (Kosmet/Kosovo) will be part of Serbia as should be...

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

I am always interested when I hear this. The question I always ask is whether you think that Serbia would be really willing to offer Kosovo full autonomy and, at the same time, allow Kosovo Albanians to play a full part in the central government of Serbia - ministers, generals, ambassadors, etc? I am not sure that it would. And I know that many involved in the status talks in 2007-2008 asked themselves the same question. I understand the anger and frustration that many in Serbia feel about the way that Kosovo was lost (and I admit that it wasn't in accordance with standard practices of international law). However, I am less convinced that they desperately miss Kosovo - beyond the religious sites - and their Kosovo Albanian compatriots.

@davidfilipgoransanja 3 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay brother as I have said it...now I will repeat myself to you to make it clear...Kosovo province was and will be part of republic of Serbia again as it should be....like Jerusalem is part of Jewish state and like Crimea is part of Russian federation....its fact and nobody can do nothing to it... Wish you very best in life, business... health and prosperity to your family and realizam to youre views about things that happening in world.

@ILLYRIAN-DARDANIAN-SACRA 3 года назад

Yes!! And serbia will be part of Albania 🇦🇱🇽🇰

@acagamer1085 3 года назад

@@ILLYRIAN-DARDANIAN-SACRA you dont have army to attack serbia

@durimhoti8836 3 года назад

@@acagamer1085 yes we have FSK end US Army 🇦🇱🇽🇰🇺🇲⚔

@donlimonesioyt9644 3 года назад

Catalonia is Spain, Kosovo is Serbia

@dragandjukanovic3481 3 года назад

There are three groups of countries that have recognized Kosovo. The first group is those who are open enemies of Serbia (we know who they are). The second group are those countries that did not have the strength to defend themselves from US and EU pressure, and the people of those countries are against the recognition of Kosovo. The third group is those whose governments have recognized Kosovo against the will of the people bicouse of some interes. It is unfortunate that UN member states do not respect the United Nations resolution 1244 which says that Kosovo and Metohija is under UN administration. Recognition of any independence is a violation of international law. Just because you’re stronger right now doesn’t mean you’re right. It seems possible that if you are a terrorists, a criminals, and a drug dealers, and you are supported by Western countries to get your state on the territory of another country.

@drinimene9126 3 года назад

Did Serbia result to gain the territories it won through the Balkan Wars and WW1 in any different way?

@dragandjukanovic3481 3 года назад

@@drinimene9126 Serbia didn won any territories through the wars it just liberated its own teritorries wich were ocupated.

@drinimene9126 3 года назад

@@dragandjukanovic3481 Do you mean that Albanians, Bulgars and other ethnicities felt somehow liberated when Serbia occupied their territories?

@dragandjukanovic3481 3 года назад

@@drinimene9126 Serbia didnt occupied any territories but just liberated there own. Remember that.

@bigmann123 3 года назад

@@dragandjukanovic3481 stop lying to yourself

@hakimorina9688 2 года назад

HEY WHY CHINA AND RUSSIA NOT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO

@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад

Long story. But essentially they reject the fact that it unilaterally declared independence. The international community does not like unilateral secession. In this case, Kosovo was supported by key Western states and so managed to get a lot of international support - for reasons that are too complex to summarise here. But Moscow and Beijing are still opposed to recognising it.

@markov3043 3 года назад

kosovo is legally serbia, but currently its USA

@andin3720 2 года назад

Kosovo belongs to its people, and over 95% of them have decided to not be part of an apartheid state like Serbia.

@markov3043 2 года назад

@@andin3720 UN-1244, those people can leave if they want, but not with our land. your logic doesn‘t apply to Kurds in Turkey, Dagestan in Russia, Serbs in Sprska, Croats in Herzegovina, Scotts in GB, Catalans in Spain, Frenchmen in Quebec, Kurds in Syria and MANY MORE. It‘s a doubble standard created by the U.S. Kosovo belongts to the united states at the moment, but not legally. This contract from the united nations is still in power but USA/ Israel do what they want. UCK Terrorists have controll and are selling human-organs in the yellow house of albania, really hope hashim thaqi gets life long sentence in prison for it.

@andin3720 2 года назад

@@markov3043 Please don’t get me started, the International Court of Justice has ruled that Kosovo independence from Serbia did not break the international law. The irony is that Serbia itself asked the international Court of Justice for a decision, but it backfired for them. Kosovo is an independent country since 2008 with its own institutions, army, police and foreign policy. The US and NATO troops are stationed in Kosovo to guarantee its independence. Every year Kosovo gets more distant from Serbia, and strengthen its position and statehood. And as for the territories seeking independence you mentioned, some of them are in the path of gaining independence sooner or later. However there is a big difference. Nato intervened in Kosovo in 1999 because Serbia military, paramilitary, and police forces organized a full scale ethnic cleansing, massive killing of civilians, systematic rape, burning and destruction of entire villages, and displacement of more than a million people from the region of Kosovo. These horrific and disgusting events, which happens only 23 years ago, were the biggest war crimes against civilians since the WWII. The liberation army of Kosovo was no way perfect either, however it is fact that they didn’t burn entire villages, engaged in massive executions of civilians and organized massive rapes of young girls and children’s like Serb army constantly did. Serbian leadership was a branch of thugs and criminals during the 90’s and they did everything wrong. If it’s anyone to be blame for your loses it is your own psychopath political leaders and nationalists who keep ruling your country.

@djuradjdjuric3994 4 года назад

First fact, than nobody mention, the name is Kosovo and Metohija! Metohija is Greek word, meaning Holy country! In Metohija 50% land is property of church SPC! That's fact nobody talk! Why? Albanians make only country Kosovo in name, because is afraid to world hear true!

@JamesKerLindsay 4 года назад

Thanks a lot for the comment. There are a lot of dimensions to Kosovo that are rarely discussed. You are right. The Church does own a lot of land. (But certainly not nearly 50%!) Also, while Serbia clearly has strong historical ties to Kosovo, it has been predominantly inhabited by Albanians for a very long time. This is often forgotten, or ignored, in Serbia. Frankly, both sides don’t really take time to consider the history, claims and views of the other. That’s the reason this problem exists. As it happens, I’ve actually done a lot of work on Kosovo. In case you are interested. www.knjizara.com/Kosovo-put-ka-osporenoj-drzavnosti-na-Balkanu-Dzejms-Ker-Lindzi-133354

@djuradjdjuric3994 4 года назад

@@JamesKerLindsay Thanks a lot for link! When I say 50% i mean on Metohija another area what everybody escape to mention! Maybe you read or not near Monestery Visoki Decani that is Metohia, you have situation that suprime court make finally decision to back church land but government decline!