How Many Hits?! Collector CASE Opening of March of the Machine  

Glad you like them!

That is so cool to hear. Thanks for sharing!

Always!

Would be fun.

Thank you.

There are card variants in paper

WOO!

Thanks for watching!

We usually stream Monday and Thursday at 8:30 PM Eastern, but this week we are streaming both tonight, Tuesday and Thursday. People purchase packs on our website, www.moonshotgamestore.com/live. Only packs listed on that pack (listed as MOM: Collector Pack and MOM: Set Pack) can be opened on stream. We've been selling out, but still have some set packs for tonight listed. We'll restock for tomorrow night's stream at 2:00 PM Eastern tomorrow.

Sorry to hear that.

i might be able to help you bud

It is not the same foiling, so no.

@@RipAndShip Thats so strange.. so it's just a 'fake'? I kind of feel if they were going to use the same treatment, make them part of the series or don't bother at all...

​@Ollie Patterson they simply designed treatments for every plane the characters represented are from. Since Kaladesh already had a variant, they used it for inspiration. It makes sense if you're not thinking of it as an Invention.

@@BillyTheFridge I am trying to see it that way but it just seems like a simple way for WOTC to cash in on a successful product. Why use the same treatment and not have it be part of the inventions set? It weakens its appeal imo

The strix has no foiling, the capena has no gilded. They cant do a sheet where every card gets its own foil process.

As a long time EDH player myself this bonus sheet is amazing and I am actually more excited to open from it then the main set. Monetary wise the set is not great, but I would say that would be more because of the main set that feels too similar to Brothers War to me with very few exciting cards. Would be really suprised if the 13% chance of your Multiverse Legend Mythic being Ragavan or Atraxa and further 53% chance to get a respectable EDH or modern staple would be the thing that makes these packs not worth it.

@Ondřej Bronec Again, just my personal opinion on the MUL. I own literally all but one of these cards as a massive EDH player, and I stand by my statement that most of them are bland choice from recent sets. Do you know how many companion cards I own from Ikoria? I didn't particularly care for them then, and they were all over the place in this case. I sold both copies I owned of Ragavan because while ok in Commander, his place is in 60 card formats that I don't play. As the "chase" card from that list, it just doesn't impress me. I say all that to say that if others are excited about the MUL list, that's awesome! Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. But I'll hold to what I said. I may grab a Set Box or two of this set to grab most of the cards I want from the actual set, and that'll be that.

@@GeorgiaTechPhenom Yeah set boxes and draft boxes seem to be great in this - the multiverse legends not taking up a rare slot benefit them greatly. I understand your point of view. I always want only like 3-4 cards per standard legal set, so they don't excite me. On the other hand I am very happy for every Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite or Ragavan in my collection. I always can jam them into decks or trade them for whatever I need. That said I prefer to buy 5 set boosters instead of a collector booster and prefer even more to just draft the set so we are likely just very different people. Hopefully the next set will be more fun for you!

Glad I could help you make a decision. Magic sets are for everyone anymore. Gotta pick what you love!

They're beautiful!

They are not his cards, they need to be shipped out to the new owner first before any selling can happen. But yeah agreed, Ragavan prices likely to plummet in the coming months. Glad I showed restraint in purchasing my copies. Honestly don't think that even if the owner could he would be able to sell them at current prices - they are just sellers coping with the fact that the price will drop. I don't think most people are willing to buy for this much, when they can be literally pulled from a Standard legal draft pack.

@Ondřej Bronec I know mate, I'd have em on a standard week auction now, to get the wheels going already, you do have to move quickly, and there's always a few whales wanting those cards for the clout, ASAP ✌🏻😉👌🏻👍🏻

Magic cards! Lots of magic cards... :D

3 per pack so 36 per box

@@RipAndShip mythic MUL’s? Or just MUL’s?

@@alley5911 Oh sorry, just MULs. That's my bad. There are 24 uncommon MULs and 12 rare OR mythic MULs. I haven't kept track of how many are mythic.

It's a ton of fun. Time will tell how they age.

Looks like a slightly better bro. Exclusive art serials, set frames, and 3 special foil types vs retro frames, 1 special foil and transformers.

Some set boxes are all gas, others are more middling. I have livestreams with a ton of set boxes if you want to watch.

Its more of a lotto ticket then bro. Good or bad. Ragavan and other playable creatures and the praetors will crush the prices of artifact serials and transformers.

As a long time EDH player myself this bonus sheet is amazing and I am actually more excited to open from it then the main set. Monetary wise the set is not great, but I would say that would be more because of the main set that feels too similar to Brothers War to me with very few exciting cards. Would be really suprised if the 13% chance of your Multiverse Legend Mythic being Ragavan or Atraxa and further 53% chance to get a respectable staple would be the thing that makes these packs not worth it.

If you say something enough, it will eventually happen.

Yeah, but I imagine a lot of them live in top loaders anyway

I'll definitely keep it up. Thanks for the like!

Sorry you don't like it.

Each set is designed for different players these days it feels like.

This is expressly allowed. We are not allowed to open any product on video until after the full card image gallery is posted. After that, we are allowed to presale packs (which we have done here) and can open them for customers to see what they get. However, we CANNOT and DO NOT ship product until the allowed shipping date. We don't ship until prerelease day, April 14th. Additionally, people getting to see what is in their packs/boxes they preordered does absolutely nothing to change the chance of anyone else getting a serialized card. These individuals preordered these packs just like people preordered boxes sealed. They are already accounted for. The only difference is we know what is in them. The thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of boxes Amazon sold all are already in the same circumstance. Likely hundreds or thousands of serialized cards are in them, they just aren't opened or videoed for people to know. Also, we allow anyone we can ship to (United States only) to purchase packs on our live stream for these presales. If you'd like to get a pack opened, you can get one, too :)

​@@RipAndShip man you are too nice. Giving a hole explanation of why you can do this. I guess some people are new to this and need an explanation of how and why this is possible.

​@@jamieknox1806 it was a good explanation, I did not know all of that and wondered myself.

@@RipAndShip Well then its all good :) Just wanted to be sure this is something that gets approved by wizards of the coast ;) I do still feel like doing it this way is gonna change things up for reselling single cards on market, because this way you can effectively sell sooner and people who are offering them and people who cannot wait for products to officially drop, will always tend to pay more then necessary for some cards. and i also think that before the cards drop there will be quite some overpriced cards on the market, knowing that by reselling them now they can get away with some of these prices, but that is not your fault. Thats just how free market works. There will always be people who abuse their advantage in being first to own something, like for example the playstation 5 situation. Sellers just have to be very sensitive in this aspect in my opinion, so they dont "sell" too much product by preorder, which honestly takes away product from physical market and which can also in a way effectively increase prices, because there is nothing left to place in local stores. The issue in this sense is just that some people already have ownership of a specific part of the sellable amount before it even releases officially, which can change market prices. But as i said, this is just how i feel about it. it might be "legal", if it gets too far with how much product is sold before release, it takes away chances of people getting these cards by luck, which is also part of the fun when buying magic cards :D I do like your content, I was just very confused about the situation regarding how and in which way this is allowed. I am just a very strong believer in leaving product in local stores hands, but i also understand that sometimes prices for local stores are inflated, I do think this might be to some extend a ripple effect because of what i explained before. i do think this would be a different story, if all the products where obtainable by simply buying them in a local store, but some of them simply are not, because of the way they are designed, for example the serialized cards. and for people who collect these cards this is actually a minor "disadvantage" :D But sometimes even local stores are just "abusing" the idea of making product scarce and driving prices up that way. As customer you will always be left with the pricetag, and if some prices would be regulated and fixed by wizards, this might change. In the end if we fix prices, collectors will not be incentivized to buy the product anymore, because that is exactly the reason why they buy it, as a small investment and because the products are limited. So in the end there is no way you can make everyone happy, leaving it to the free market to decide which card is of what value will in due time regulate it the fairest way for the competitive and the collectors scene. Which only enhances the fun of the game :D Thanks for clearing it up for me :D I will continue to remain a viewer of your content

@@jamieknox1806 its not simply about being new to this :D its just the fact that some companies are very strict about how they handle their own products. on the other spectrum, if this was not allowed, it would most likely have been taken off of youtube sooner than i could have seen it :P so me doubting it was in itself a little too hasty, but still, people who work in sales industry and who do know everything about how important contracts, embargo and all of this is, know why i reacted that way. and it seems i was not the only on who was wondering here :D I am also very happy about the explanation, i am still convinced that doing this kind of thing might not be too healthy for consumer market as a whole, even if it is officially allowed. just think about what happened to the ps5 situation. as long as there is enough product to be printed, thats okay, but serialized cards are limited, so as he explained already, in general, amazon and all other online sellers are selling these by preorder anyway. and in way bigger amounts, it will just not be healthy for local sales and for the customer, because we are virtually cranking up prices, we are draining the market. if anything, wizards should simply not sell & ship the products themselves until just 2 days before official release. That would be the healthiest way, and they should limit how much can be preordered to an absolute minimum, if we want people to be able to buy products at fair pricepoints in local stores, that way we can also support those. this is also part of understanding how sales work, for this i do not need to be new, on the contrary, i work in sales so i know that there is more to it then simply it being allowed :P now we can always fling the argument first come first served, but i still feel like going into the local store meeting people you know already, talking with them and hyping each other up there is a big part of how this game even became so big. by shifting everything to online sales, we are really neglecting that part of it and missing some of the most fun of playing magic :D But thanks for also taking part in this conversation :D it got cleared up, so no issue here with the channel, just issue with how wizards handles it then :D