How MANY Pikmin Does it Take to Beat Pikmin 2? 

That is the best item in the game 🤑

@@thomasreese2816 what

@@aidankrapf428 I think he's saying the anxiety generator sounds like a Pikmin item?

@@Apple80089 I could see a Pikmin treasure being called that *an iPhone is pictured*

lol, Pikmin may have been the first game i ever played that had a timer as a core mechanic, and i _hated_ it

And their computer is just a chatGPT bot

@Builder Monkey You say that like you're NOT supposed to give someone a tomato as a symbol of your love. It's a classic mating ritual!

​@@josephfox7068 yeah, especially if you throw it at their face 🤣

@@josephbrandenburg4373 Their ship actually seems sentient, with its own personality and desires, unlike ChatGPT.

Even so, from a Watsonian perspective, I doubt Captain Olimar wants to indenture more beings to this capitalist cause.

yes, but it wouldn't reduce the number of required pikmin. 35 are required for the second paper bag and no more than 35 are made before paying off the debt (excluding pikmin conversions), so farming bulborbs in the first cave would not help in the challenge, it would only be a tedious way of completing the same challenge differently.

@Robin Lindgren it would be useful for a minimum exploration run. If someone would be crazy enough to do it, but there is crazier in other games

@Gregory Ford that's how all speedruns are. Until someone finds some new cool glitch, wrong warp, or various other programming error and then your mind is blown. Like super mario sunshine's stars before game starts

@@ww6372 JinjoVitis made a run like that. It's called " Pikmin 2 Extinction Challenge | Can You Beat Pikmin 2 With Zero Treasures? "

@@cedriclothritz7281 you cannot as the first treasure is required to end the first day so you would technically have to collect 1 treasure

Does that mean they implemented it into the game as kind of a failsafe if a weird bug like that happened? Or is it a mechanic that was copied over from the last game?

@@BierBart12 it's an unused feature in Pikmin 2. I believe on the cutting room floor they even have the cutscenes of activating the inactive red, yellow and blue onions as they exist in the game but are never used due to the onions always spawning in active.

i haven't played this game and this comment thread temporarily gaslit me into thinking the pikmin were actually called onions

pikmin 251 uses it if i recall, which was neat

@@BierBart12 My guess is that Pikmin 2 was created using all the assets from Pikmin 1, and in copying those over the onions kept those old animations because the developers never removed them

I’m pretty sure the cutscene starts because the pikmin was plucked, and usually plucking them is what activates the cutscene.

@@berry.1uvr Except in Pikmin 2, your first encounters with these Pikmin are as pre-plucked wild Pikmin.

@@syweb2 Well I guess there was a hidden cutscene that was meant to be used if you somehow plucked a yellow before finding them at the Distant Spring? Or maybe the cutscene activates when you’re a certain distance away from a yellow (not counting ones that are buried).

​@@syweb2Could it be code left over from the first game? Pikmin 2 is known for being rushed with its reused maps from Pikmin, so it wouldn't be surprising if there was code from the first game that goes unused in the second and only can be activated with glitches and exploits.

@@TheFrantastic That seems likely. Even if it wasn’t rushed, that would still be plausible since games often reuse code from previous games in the series if they’re similar enough. Here’s my understanding if that theory is true: The wild Pikmin are programmed to not respond to being touched like idle Pikmin are, so it is expected that the only way to get them to join your squad is to whistle them, so they duplicated the code for plucking the first Yellow and Blue Pikmin for a new function that gets called when you whistle your first Yellow/Blue Pikmin. They had to rework it a bit, but it’s still mostly the same. However, the original functions are still in the code. This doesn’t normally matter, since they only get called if you pluck a Red/Yellow/Blue Pikmin when the flag saying you haven’t “unlocked” that Pikmin yet is not set, and both the old and new functions set that flag. Now, the thing is that wild Pikmin are treated identically to idle Pikmin with the following exceptions: They don’t get included in the displayed Pikmin counters, they’re colored normally (idle Pikmin are normally paler with glowing leaves/flowers/buds), they don’t die after sunset even if they aren’t at the landing site, they add to your Pikmin counts when added to your squad the same way a sprouted Pikmin does, they have a different idle animation, they inflict no damage to enemies, and they don’t join your squad by being in proximity with a captain. They do, however, still attack nearby enemies, pull nearby grass, and drink nectar like idle Pikmin do (in order for the wild Blue Pikmin to be attacking Wogpoles when you encounter them), and that behavior (aside from doing no damage to enemies) is identical to idle Pikmin in terms of how that works. Notably, when a wild or idle Pikmin finishes growing a flower after drinking nectar, if a captain is nearby, they will automatically join that captain’s squad; this is separate from the way idle Pikmin join their squad by being touched. If this happens before the “wild Pikmin” scene gets triggered, it still won’t trigger since that scene only gets triggered if you _whistle_ a wild Pikmin. As such, no flags indicating that either that Pikmin type or its corresponding Onion have been unlocked. (The only reason you may still be able to use that Onion for withdrawing that Pikmin type is because there is a separate check at the start of each day to see if you have any Pikmin of that type sprouted and, if so, you get an Onion there with the ability to pull Pikmin of that type from it.) Now, that isn’t enough. With the exception of the Violet and Ivory Candypop Buds, each Candypop Bud type checks to see if the flag for unlocking the corresponding color of Pikmin (not the Onion flag) is set, and they will not spawn (or, in the case of the Queen Candypop Bud where you have at least one of the original three colors, cycle through that color) if that flag isn’t set for that particular color. Since we need to get more than just the one Yellow and the one Blue, we need to get Queen Candypop Buds to cycle through those colors. Thankfully, that flag can be set by simply triggering either the old or new “new Pikmin obtained” scene for that type. We can trigger the old “plucked Pikmin” scene by having a Swooping Snitchbug (or a Mamuta, for that matter) bury the glitched Pikmin, then plucking the resulting Pikmin Sprout, triggering the old cutscene function. This does lead to some unintended behavior. The new function sets another flag (that the Onion is unlocked) to allow for the corresponding Onion to operate normally, but the deprecated function doesn’t, as that flag would be triggered by a separate cutscene function from Pikmin 1 that happened when approaching the deactivated Onion, causing it to activate and sprout a single seed. Because that flag wasn’t set, the game thinks the Onion wasn’t unlocked, so it doesn’t ascend at sunset like it normally would, it is partially underground (like a deactivated one is), and it doesn’t sprout Pikmin even during a Pikmin extinction (there in order to not have them sprout Pikmin in Pikmin 1 before you unlocked that Onion). However, this is separate from the flags to see if the Onion’s tractor-beam-thing appears (and, thus, Pikmin can be stored in or retrieved from that Onion); whether the Onion will be at the landing site, in its hidden location, or not spawn at all at the start of each day; and the spawning and behavior of Candypop Buds, so those still work normally. Thus, doing the glitch would cause the Onion to not spawn Pikmin even during an extinction, be partially underground rather than on its “legs”, and not behave as it should at the start and end of each day (landing or flying off, respectively), but it will still appear at the landing site, still have a tractor beam, still function normally for withdrawing or storing Pikmin of the corresponding type, and still trigger the Pikmin Extinction cutscene at the start of each day should you have zero of that particular Pikmin color at all (even though no Pikmin of that color will sprout). Additionally, Candypop Buds of that color will still spawn and work normally, Queen Candypop Buds will still cycle through that color and function normally, the Pikmin counters will still function normally, and the Pikmin themselves will behave no differently. This is all just hypothetical, though.

I was planning on doing a Pikmin 2 without corpse money run, and not knowing this was the only thing stopping me from doing so. Thanks for that.

Nobody going to mention that the "Tresure" at 22:12 is literally WEED, right?

​ ​looked it up, it's a japanese maple leaf in pal, ambiguous in ntsc-u, and marijuana in ntsc-j

yes, you could, technically

Seen a video of someone doing it. Just saying that it would be possible to get lower pickmin but as the bag needs to be flattened and no more are required after it

@@nekotheliar6393 no, the pikmin count would be the same. Paying off the debt with just the first cave would have the same result. It would just take forever

I always knew about the carmex trick, didnt know other people knew about it! I remembered throwing a purple pikmin up there by accident and it blew my mind lol

Also, a wollywog kill count Chugga would be proud of.

Pathetic. One time I had 300 reds.

@@josephbrandenburg4373 300k?

@@redpikmin017 just three hundred...

@@Microwaved_Popcorn bulborb push ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ryNKjTfnpTU.html

I wouldn't say its dumb to not know about an obscure glitch, after all it isn't normal to want to trigger a pikmin extinction and not be able to recover from it.

@@jasonreed7522 Yeah it just felt bad that I thought I'm doing this with the least amount of Pikmin possible, but it's not horrible. Like I said, it was glitchless at least.

Pov

I think that time is the standard one used in marketing any clock because it has aesthetically pleasing clock hand placements. (Which makes it funny they use the exact same time for digital clocks)