How Modern Stoicism Will Weaken You. Watch This! 

Grim Hustle Forever

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You are confused bratan, your critique of stoicism is a communist perspective. Your critique of Communism is from a misunderstanding of history.

your advises have zero value even if they are true you are telling someone not to smoke while you sell drugs

Well put.

Yeah, since it got hyped up you have all these wanabe sigma males who failed to be a alpha go into this modern stoicism. Stoicism is about discipline, living according to nature in the end and not fuzzing about what you cannot control. Thats it.

Stoicism has always been a cynical school of thoughts. Since it has been founded. It is Diogenes with a bit of make up basically.

Yeah, bacically doomers.

Yep!

Very well said

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I needed to read this. Thank you.

U said it perfectly, buddy.

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Yeah agreed. Diogenes is one stoic influence of mine. I also embrace minimalism because after owning things, I found it was empty. Just to impress others who I did not like in the first place. If someone wants an expensive car. That is there choice. I would rather live simply and drive an old car, fewer problems that way. Envy and Jealously cause problems in this modern era.

100%

Until the time of the Caesars then most of the killing of corrupt politicians stopped. That is why Tacitus said that while he didn't respect the Germanic tribes if Rome was to survive, they needed to adopt their morals and family values.

The problem is, Stoicism has no offense even Marcus Aurelius was cucked by his wife. It was created by Zeno of Citium and it sure feels like a Psyop.

@@PsycheOSand then good ol’ Marc made her bathe in the cucker’s blood. Seems like offence to me.

Wow! Well said. ❤

Fuentes, Taylor, Vincent James etc..

More importantly, listen to God. He shall never be silenced, for His Word, Jesus the Christ, endures forever (Isaiah 40:8; Luke 21:33; John 1:1).

Martin Luther King Jr., Malcom X, Fred Hampton, Huey P. Newton, etc.

@@justinunion7586 Martin Luther King is mainstream & a total fraud

Iman Ali was certaily one of the greatest spiritual geniuses in History.

Sunni Moslüms aren't such brilliant . they were dumb . Shia Muslims are genius

@@fabianludwigschmidtsamson7584 indeed

He was a small time thief & a Pedo.

#1 Ignorance of facts and reality with submission to unjust misleadership.

So deep!

Well said, people don't seem to understand. They are bussy with dogmatic aproaches to some quote but as with all philosophy, there are allot of perspectives to bring to the table.

Quite so. One can make persuasively that money is the foundation of monotheism. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca Yours not to reason why; Yours but to do and die. - Eugene Debs

Well, as Epictetus said: focus on what you can control. And definetly you can control if you suffer what other humans want you to suffer.

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ones existence*

Lol..."to hell with..."...you really sound full of God😂😂😂...🤡

​@@DrifterSpirit9why does this offend you?

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Stay honorable

No . Don't stay hungry. That's the mainstream ideology. Be fulfilled.

I believe this is 100% correct.

Stoicism is a scam Marcus Aurelius appointed new emperor his most idiotic son and caused the decline of the Roman Empire Marcus Aurelius presented himself as " the wise man" but this is his outcome

@@andreainzaghi7373 Read Seneca's Letters to Lucilius. It's way better than Aurelius' writings.

same as democracy....

Noted.

Agree

Aurelius mentions these, logos and nature

stoicim should be combined with knowledge of history and so giving up stoicism

True stoicism it is because only in the stoicism that comes from God the devoted student will always find awarnes guided by his souls voice. Separate evil from good and you will start not only to feel what is right and what is wrong, who is good and who is bad, but you will also understand how it can be done acording to the principles of God, and from that point no ones can decive you in false thinking.

Because it doesn't work, especially this fake crap of pretending that you have all of this control over your life, when there are widespread engineering/manufacturing/causations of tons of stuff (including countless diseases, illnesses, medical conditions [both physical & mental]) that people cannot control. People don't even know the toxins (it's not just processed food, or soda pop, that barely scratches the surface) they're being exposed to on a regular basis, they "trust the science," which coupled with medical establishments have been poisoning/harming (even covertly murdering) countless. Most people can't figure out the basics. Most people don't understand Occam's Razor, correlation/causations, analysis of their environments/etc. The overwhelming majority don't even understand Truth (what truth actually is)!

and the most important, Virtue. people consume all kind of "Stoic content" out there instead of reading the books from the ancient Stoics themselves.

A very profound statement...It's not the principles, but the difference between how you interpret something vs. what the author wants you to interpret something...

Well said 👌

Find out what the author thinks. I'm interested in their interpretation, to understand why they thought, spoke and acted as they did. That may help me discover what I think, but I'm more interested in the author.

This is my opinion of all art. People are always like “what was this artist trying to say?” I’m like “I don’t care what the author was trying to say.”

​@@mitchjohnson4714This is why we get stuff like the rings of power. We don't need to know what we say. We need to know what the author wants and what is his message. We should be able to understand what it is written, not to make an understanding of our own

Bruh that’s nonsense. Yes you can refuse the pain that is coming from corrupt systems. But no man can decide what pain nature itself will bring

​@@fatedoesntdiscriminateYou are not fighting against his argument, you are simply slicing his perspective into its two respective sides and demonstrating both the for and against.

@@fatedoesntdiscriminate Tell me you don't understand, without telling me you don't understand it. Think a little harder.

@@micklyons8858 Example: Do women get to "choose" the pain of child birth? No. "Choosing" to accept it or not is nonsense. You are taking Grim's quote out of context.

@@procyonlotor1906 I don't believe any one of you is any more right than the other and are simply explaining both sides of the argument.

EXACTLY. This is what I think as well. It is about staying strong and keeping going if you fall to the ground or are hurt. Understanding why it happened can help you avoid it like Grim Hustle here says. To be fucking honest, if you don't listen to both this RU-vid channel and the ancient philosophy of Stoicism (btw, stoicism and Stoicism are separate things), and even if you ignore ALL IDEOLOGIES AND BELIEFS, it remains FUCKING LOGICAL from the standpoint of evolution to adapt to conditions. Depression and sadness is a way to wake up, but it can be a way to give up too. You need to keep going, no matter what the fuck is happening. It's natural, going beyond any human idea.

He wasn’t saying ignore the pain. It was in conjuncture to how the modern day stoicism speaks about how to deal and accept said pain period. Nothing more. True level of stoicism is the intertwining of God’s purpose for said pain and the strength He gave you to endure, succeed and grow from.

I disagree - stocism actively promotes a passive "make the best of it mindset". Just read Zeno of Citium's parable of the dog and the cart. At no point does he suggest the possibility of overpowering the cart and asserting one's destiny or will - he only promptes a "higher" form of slavishness by following the will of the cart as though it was his own.

⁠@@wantedpwnerYou’d sound more intelligent if you didn’t have to cuss

Just as an example of the quote, say you meet a woman, you end up falling for her but she chooses someone else. That is suffering and it is external pain, physically you are unhurt but mentally you are distressed. What the quote means by your estimation of it is that your interpretation of the events is causing you pain, not the thing itself. Many people in life give themselves pain the quote is about not letting your thoughts weaken you. It isn't about being a punching bag.

Exactly, I think this video explains it a bit incorrectly.

You are right. That's because Stoicism is first and foremost a state of mind that you are born with or happen to acquire through real experience and not just read about it. I was a Stoic before I ever knew there was an ancient philosophy of Stoicism. When I learned about it I was relieved that there is nothing wrong with my understanding of life.

All the more reason to adopt it in my opinion.

@@paulmunro3175 r u dumb?

The objective is to exhibit the product whether they buy into it or not eventually when they do buy into it then contaminate the minds with the need & then you can manipulate & control the masses

Stoicisim with a bad purpose becomes bad..if you endure pain, when the root cause of it is evil, or shallow, you only become an accomplice. That is what the video is about. Learn

We do not train to feel pain

That and the proper development of one's reason via good logic. The social media gatekeepers of the diluted version of stoicism never emphasize these aspects of the philosophy.

​@@thebarbelllifestyle1478yup 100% , just the latest hippy life hack , doesn't reflect true nature of stoicism at all !!

That's because they are virtueless. They don't mention something that they don't have

@@deanodog3667 and yet this man is an epicurean, who see life as nothing but pleasure and pain

Right, you don't have to worship your parents as God, but even they have flaws, God gave us the commandment to respect them and we have to do it. Because God says, "Everyone who loves Me, follows My commandments".

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Its true Amen

All wisdom comes with contextual limits.

The ones that have been send by God into more dificult paths, are the ones stronger, wiser and with big hearths at the soul core. They will need the most to love against all odds, against acts made on them by hate or domestic violence by their unhealed parents, but despise everything, they would heal the ground by not only leting his downfall to arive, but raising above all odds and stand the ground to propper heal, develop and enhance its own abilities. Remember friend, even if you have all reasons to take revenge, be above them and your own desires to payback, but with the sadly cost to become one of them and lose your spark. You can be much more above that, always. And in the end, if you tried and still can't love them, atleast don't hate them, maibe time will give you much more answers as it passes by. And even if time can't answer your questions, keep in mind that in the end they surely did one thing right, you!

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The spiritual message in this video is very profound. Buddhism, Taoism and eastern philosophy will never protect anyone from totalitarianism the way the Old Testament does.

See Crusades. Short version: To heck with nature and humans made in His image . Lie cheat steal kill desecrate the sacred and the Natural.

Just be a fucking normal person

how so?

@@wantedpwner Fucking true and it sounds cool as fucking fuck when you say "fuck" too.

@@wantedpwner what's your definition of "normal"

Reading Epictetus should be a starting point to understand Stoicism. He literally tells you to be ready to die for what is right and not be afraid of it. He was banished by the corrupt and tyrannical government of Rome in his time. It's basically your choice, if you wanna do what is right and just, do it 100% and be ready to die for what is right. Modern RU-vid-stoicism is trash.

Marcus'es stoicism wasnt really about artificiall suffering, but about natural suffering and change. As an Emperor, General and warrior he himself shouldve known the limits of the Stoa.

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Can you please explain what he mean with the concept of pain?

He's human, so are you. Why don't you speak?

Yeah. That's probably because he was one.

@@winfriedmaus my point would be that his mindset was of a man god, his point of view has been altered by something that plebs will never experience.

Funny how he didnt agree with Christianity tho and persecuted them. He was a magnificient Emperor though indeed.

Marcus Aurelius never intended his work for publication. Meditations were recordings his private thoughts. Anyway, the guy in the video is a complete idiot pushing his empty conspiracy fear-mongering theories and making enemies out of thin air. He critiques stoicism for all the wrong reasons you can obviously see his bias, as a middle aged russian man having lived under the totalitarian soveti regime. The truth is that duffering is an unavoidable part of existence. You can overthrow governments but you can't trascend death. Stoicism, like numerous other ideologies provides an answer to that. Also, the liberating stoic idea of asuming responsibility only for what you can control is the basis of many modern psychotherapeutic approaches and dare I add, an indispensable part of a balanced life. I understand the distrust towards whatever buzzword ideology gains ground in the mainstream, though I can't excuse people proceeding to critique it without understanding it or presenting it fairly. This video is a prime example of that. The fact that this guy speaks in a serious tone and stares at the camera like a psycho doesn't mean he has well-informed philosophical opinions. Do your own research.

Keep reading, but keep questioning. Ultimately you will have to decide what the truth is.

I disagree actually. The meaning of it is not to take blame for others, but to not waste the energy on blaming. Identify the source of your problems and fix it - this is the meaning, and this is how it should be interpreted. Stoicyzm itself and stoic philosophers are not the problem - problem is interpretation or rather narrative around it.

This is the exact thing he was speaking against. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@iEMMANU3L The Book Of Job I Meant.

Thank you. Good explanation

It turned into a competition of who can go the longest without and believing it gave them super powers when in reality it really teaches discipline. If you master yourself you can do anything.

yes maybe the people not the ussr system

That’s why he said “the people”.

And how did that work out for them?

@@LlopmondDunderbridge-nn2xt Being a menace until their godless system fell. even then their people did remain strong, but their country tho? eh...

From the fourth century BC onwards, philosophers often taught in the stoa. (Stoa Poikile) He means that some people don't try to make god or religious beliefs incompatible with philosophy while others do.

it was banned by RU-vid