I have to consider that at any point the government might tell me that I have all the full capacity magazines that I will ever own. Don't think this is a one time event.
Live thru the 1977 NYC blackout and all you needed was a baseball bat, a machete, food, flashlight , radio, batteries. In Miami 1992 with hurricane Andrew had my 9mm pistol and a Ruger mini-14
I'm going to suggest you get 1000 rnds of 5.56 for duty and 1000 rounds for training. The vast majority of your training should be dry fire. Getting a .22 converter would help round out training. Now my opinion is "own fewer calibers." And I would prioritize the rifle over the pistol. That seems to be an unpopular opinion among preppers. Whatever. And you CAN put back 10,000 rounds man. You can afford it. The reality is you are not PRIORITIZING it. Which is fine with me. You don't answer to me. But people CAN put back 10k. It helps to own fewer guns, fewer calibers, and less gear. And learn to do with less gear. But I'm just a dude on the internet and you don't need to take my thoughts on anything and you certainly don't need my validation or approval.
We have a lot of magazines and ammo, probably more than we will ever need to be honest but it's there if we need it. The key is to be ready for the supply to dry up. I'm not going to be fighting any war, I'm going to avoid a gunfight unless I'm backed in a corner. Getting shot is probably not any fun.
@Kevin Hart do what? I'm not going to be digging any holes...lol I'm not going to hide because it won't do a bit of good. They'll probably have dogs and drones tracking our every move if anything like that were to happen.
i agree but i do have 10 round mags for my wife. 30 rounds simple adds to much weight and so u know she is 4,10 and 110 with carpal tunnel in both hands so sometimes we have to a just
When we were stationed in Nicaragua in 86 we always carried at least 6 mags on patrol. Also true if you have to go to your secondary your in deep shit . SF
How can you call yourself a prepper if you live in a state which does not allow you to defend yourself? The most obvious preparation that you can accomplish is to live where you are allowed to properly prepare for SHTF.
Not everyone has the ability to just move whenever they want. Part of preparing is doing the best you can with whatever situation you are living in. Just because I can’t have 30 rounds magazines does not mean I should not try to make things work.
I believe Preppers should have no less than 21 full sized magazines for each rifle, 12 magazines for each pistol and more if possible. Be safe my friends.
Such an interesting topic to me considering there's really no data to go off of in the US since maybe the Civil War. The reality is training is probably more relevant than how many rounds you have. You can store all the rounds you want but if you can't win a fight you're nothing more than a supply crate. Have as much as you can afford, train as much as you can, and carry weapons that use common cartridges so you're more likely to be able to supply in field.
So my recommendation is 60 Mags for your first Rifle & +25 mags for each rifle after. 15 Per Pistol for SHTF. May or may not sound extensive, but hear me out. Combat loadout 7 at least 6 Mags per Pack I aim to keep 50 Mags at least loaded and in metal ammo cans. If you ever get into a fight last thing u want is to be having to load Mags. You may need to stage Mags at different locations. You also wanna try and have a few Mags still in the package not being used at all in case you loose, break, or naturally ware out a few Mags. 500 rounds is better than nothing but something to think about. Not every round = a hit on target. Not every target only gets one round. Combat loadout is 7+ Mags that's 210 rounds. Pack load out is 6+ that's 180. That's 390 so far so u got enough ammo for 1 restock. 10k really is a decent goal, splurge for metal cans tjay plastic breaks easily
@@curlymaplebandit3107 remember to save all your lead plates from car batteries to. You would be amazed how many bullets you can produce from a lead acid battery with a little antimony.
Lol are you planning on getting into prolonged firefights with blue helmets or something? I think for the VAST majority of people, the gear needed for "Shtf" realistically should be seen as low profile/covert edc loadouts with a couple extra mags, and MAYBE a pdw plus 3-4 mags in a back pack assuming your going through a high crime urban area that has organized gangs or flash mobs operating in it. In which case the whole philosophy is using your edc to fight to your pdw and your pdw is there to conduct mag dumps to gain as much distance as possible between you and the threat.
I stack my three main calibers, but I keep more of 22lr and less of 12ga. Personally, I'd like to have at the bare minimum 3-4K per caliber in reserve, and at least 1-2K per year for training.
Thanks for your thoughts on this topic. I've SUBSCRIBED! For my needs, I've got 20 mags for my 5.56 rifle. I'm trying to get to 13 mags for each of my 3 HK pistols, but they're very expensive. My goal is 2,000 rounds per caliber (.22, .22mag, 45acp, 5.56). Although, I may go to 3,000 for 9mm and add 400 rounds of 12 gauge (split between birdshot and 00Buck).
Minimum 2,000 rounds for the primary rifle 1,000 for the handgun 500 for the shotgun and 500 for the bolt action. Ammo goes faster then you think, yes avoid the gun fight as best you can but if shtf you won't be able to avoid them all, if you have food someone will want it if you have guns and ammo someone will want it and if you have a working vehicle guess what someone will want it. With that being said you need to get with like minded people that can help you and you help them, like in my case my brother has property and I stock up on food and ammo my father in law stocks up on food and ammo my brother stocks up on food and ammo and our plan is to get our loved ones and supplies and get to my brother's place, obviously with my family in a few tents, it helps out that i was in the army and deployed to Afghanistan I know how to pull security i still know how to shoot, move and communicate and i will not hesitate to send rounds down range, I'm no Rambo but i have family to protect and for them I will do unspeakable things if necessary.
Nobody ever says what SHTF really means. In a real disaster event, gummint would come and collect all the firearms off everybody that they knew about from purchase records or could find. As far as quantity of guns and ammunition... Rifles and pistols are OK but nowhere near as good as a shotgun. Feed that with No 6 shot to take out just about everything. If you want to take out body armor then solid slug. No body armor will hold up to solid slug. You don't need more ammunition than you can carry. I have to say I don't like magazines - if you have a pump shotgun then between shots you can feed extra rounds in from a pocket full of cartridges. You don't need high cycling rates or super accurate guns. Most combat will be done at close quarters. Your best friend will be a bow and arrows. Infinitely recyclable ammunition and near silent. Shorter range but who wants to walk more than 20 yards to pick up a rabbit or a deer?
The biggest issue is not how much ammo you have, it's how much you can easily and quickly leave with. I have a full crate of ammo but i'd never be able to make out with it on my own, it's a 2 person's job to carry, but I also have a vest with mags, Guns ready to go, And a crate full of 15 loaded mags for my main rifle, and 2 pistol mags with my carry gun and 4 more in a bag in my truck, That's what I would practically get away with. Whatever the future scenario maybe if I have to leave but have time then my crate full of ammo and extra guns will come in handy but if it's a quick deal where I have to get the fuck out or I have to go straight to fighting from my house then it won't do me anything unless I'm stuck and barricaded in.
I think if your making this video you should have all your Magazines loaded and ready.Don’t worry about the spring tension they will not go bad.You know how hard it is to load up mags when your fighting a war?Designate an Ammo carrier/loaded mag carriers.Your going to be passing mags to others brother.
@kevinhart46 correct I'd rather start with 20 per and then worry about the last 10. But I have a split of ammo, clipped and unclipped. For x39 ammo the best clips are Czech
How much ammo/mags? All of them, always, all the time. AR Mags are still cheap enough that every time I go to the ammo store, I pick up a couple. Even if I don't buy anything else
If pistol capacity is limited to 10rds I would also choose 40SW or 45acp unless you decide to carry a small pistol than it will be 9mm or 380acp for pocket carry.
A good habit to get into for storage and such is whenever you go to Cavela's/Scheels/etc, buy at least one or two magazines for your rifle and pistol. Ensure you always have your magazines for supply filled. If you don't, buy more ammo instead of magazines. Once the mags are all full, go back to buying mags.
It USED to be easy and cheap to build #s by reloading, both for quantity and quality. Now the reason for reloading, is to get match quality ammo for less. I went to a Canadian Tire 99 $ for a box of 20 30.06 + taxes, WELL NOW I can match it for about 50%
That’s not the point that others are making. In states where there is a ten round limit you can’t even buy thirty round mags. They don’t sell them. After everything falls apart obviously it won’t matter.
There is no " right " answer to this. For myself, SHTF involves a circumstance from which there will be no recovery, our way of life is disrupted for the long term. Anything else is a problem that has a foreseeable solution. Battle turnout: 8 30 rd magazines for my AR, with 2 more in a patrol pack. Also another 100 rds of 5.56 on strippers. 3 12 rd mags for my SIG P 229, another 50 rds in the pack. Ammo at the homestead is as much as I can obtain, no less than 500 rds 5.56, 200 rds .40, 100 rds 12 ga., and 250 rds 9mm [ wife's pistol ]. These are minimums. Good luck.
If you’re in a SHTF situation, magazine restrictions are moot. The mission is to survive. Additionally, mag loaders are a definite help if you’ve someone to load while you are otherwise occupied. To my mind, 8 rifle mags are a minimum. But, that’s a personal preference. Hopefully, you’ll have sufficient (time to load) warning before the fan is turned on. Just be prepared! As to ammo, the smaller calibers have a place. It take two to carry off a body…but many to care for the wounded!
You are exactly right,if SHTF event occurs keep on mind that martial law is being already declared ,then nothing else matters but survive and take care of your family and yourself
Correct magazine restrictions don’t matter when everything falls apart. But no one else want to get a felony for owing magazines that’s are illegal in their state when things are normal
As much as you can reasonably carry because holding up is one of the worst things you can do, unless you live in a hardened or hidden bunker of course.
Depends if you plan to stand your ground or evade and retreat. Also if you are with others or alone. If alone you don't stand much of a chance either way.
I believe that in an AR 15 Primary weapon, a minimum of 25 30 round magazines is best, 4 complete 6 magazine loadouts. For my secondary, a minimum of 4 for each gun that may serve as your secondary. Even as a CC carry, I have 4 available on me. 1 in the gun, 1 on my weak side, and 2 in an ankle carry. How much ammo should you keep, that's a question that is a never ending debate, but it should be enough that you can remain armed if ammo sales become prohibited. For me, that's a 5,000 round minimum on the primary, and half that for the secondaries. I too, live in a Capacity Restricted State (as of 2013). Luckily, pre-restriction magazines were grandfathered in, and I had the foresight to concentrate on buying as many as I could get my hands on. All Gen 2 PMags because they are recognizably PreRestriction manufacture. I live an hour from the State line, and van and have traveled to buy replacements, but I continue to stick with Gen 2's because LE would have difficulty proving I'm not compliant with an Unconstitutional Law. I have, for 50 years, always paid cash for guns, ammo and related accessories. Leaving any kind of Financial Trail is already becoming a Red Flag for the Tyrants in the Government, and I believed it was coming 50 years ago. Democrats are Evil, and never to be trusted, as they are Hypocrites and Liars all. A Party formed primarily to protect Slavery has never abandoned that primary goal.
Enough plus 1. It’s an impossible question to answer because the problem is unknown. I would say only buy 1 caliber weapon. For me it’s 9mm. Pistol and rifle. Currently my stock is low but I have 8-9k. Just ordered another 3k.
Make sure you've got your other stuff in order before going this far into magazines. If you don't you won't live long enough to get into that many gun fights, let alone live though enough gun fights to need that many.
The minimums for ammo and mags sound good. Then switch to food, meds and anything else you need long term. Diapers? Firewood? Solar? Then back to ammo and mags. You would want caches of ammo, mags and spare parts or even spare firearm, off your property. You might get raided by ATF or homeland security or whoever. Or you might want to supply some one who got raided by whoever or just plain was late realizing something is going wrong.
When shtf only people in large number groups or the illor immobile should be bunkered down in a home with over 3k rounds of various ammo. Other than that everyone else should only have what they can carry. You never know what will happen and if you think you do then be prepared to go down with the ship (home) captain
We can fight back by calling them standard capacity magazines. Save the quad stacks and drums as high. Unfortunately we have to and through the courts first.
How much ammo/ Magazines is enough? Answer; Never. Never enough ammo or magazines. LOL In the immortal words of Ford Fairlane," so many @$$holes so few bullets." ROLMAO
I believe Preppers should have minimum 1,000 rounds for each rifle and 500 rounds for each pistol and shotgun minimum. More would definitely be better. Be safe my friends.
You wouldn't believe how many people are out there that have 3k in a carbine and it's never even had 500 rounds threw it and it's the only rifle they own I have 2 relatives like this. I keep telling them their rifle is only a tool and you are the weapon. I fear if anything does go down they will either be to scared to actually use it or someone will take it from them pretty quickly Maybe it's just a false since of security knowing they are armed that gives them a feeling of security
Knew a guy who brought 20 mags for his Glock...for camping... His mags/ammo weighed more then his fishing and hiking kit. Glock bois always be Glocking...
What’s enough? You’ll find out in a fire fight if you have enough. Personally I’d say at least 10 magazines rifle and 10 for my handgun. Plus enough ammunition for at least a year.
Some other RU-vid that’s like 5 thousand rounds of different Ammon I asked that fool what if SHTF and he has to abandon ship how will he transfer all that especially if vehicles are down ( I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE)
do preppers ever consider the fact that when they are in these huge gun battles that there will be not only plenty of magazine and ammo laying around, but also fully functional weapon too provided, they come out on the winning end. it is not resources that wins the battle but resourcefulness.
I do talk about this in another video. Typically the victory goes to who is better trained and who has better fire superiority though. Large scale gun battles become less likely as a large event would go on but still not a bad idea to have the ammo for it just in case.
Historically, 3 out of 4 battles have been won by the side that started the fight. In more modern times, gunfights are typically won by the side that is able to put the most rounds on target. This would preclude scavenging as a realistic strategy for the losing side. So, think of the "loot drop" as an added bonus for the Victor's.
