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How Much Espresso Goes into the Different Cup Sizes? 

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One thing that can get a little confusing when starting out as a barista is learning to understand how much espresso you need to put in each of the various cup sizes. For example when making a coffee for a customer in a small 8 ounce take away cup should you use a normale, a ristretto, or a double ristretto?
In this video Luke talks us through each of the standard cup sizes from a 4 ounce cup up to a 16 ounce cup to explain how much espresso should be dropped into each. The main goal for a barista should be maintaining overall consistency and flavour across the cup range.
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@dylanpetit
@dylanpetit Год назад
Thank you so much once again! Recap for medium roast 16oz = 45cl (double shot + single shot, 45g + 22.5g) 12oz = 34cl (double shot, 45g) 8oz = 23cl (ristretto, 22.5g) 6oz = 17cl (single shot, 22.5g) 4oz = 11cl (single shot, 22.5g)
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
What is cl
@BorisTheGoose92
@BorisTheGoose92 Год назад
​@@beyondfshn2844 a centiliter. 1 cl=10ml. 30 mL=1 fl oz.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
hmmm No, our recipe is 22.5g dose, in a 4oz or 6oz you can split this as a normale 2:1 ratio so thats 45g liquid or 22.5g in each cup. the 8oz is a ristretto 1 to 1 ratio so its 22.5g, the 12oz is a 2 to 1 or 45g, the 16oz is 45g + 22.5g
@dylanpetit
@dylanpetit Год назад
​@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Oh sorry! I'm french ahaha... I update my answer right now!
@SpringOrca
@SpringOrca Год назад
@@beyondfshn2844 1cl is 10ml
@paulingame.9719
@paulingame.9719 Год назад
Been looking for this guide. Very helpful for my future coffee shop thanks! 😊
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Glad it was helpful there is plenty of content on the channel to help you open the shop.
@SimranjeetSingh-zr5mt
@SimranjeetSingh-zr5mt 11 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoastershi could you please advise if I can put double shot of 18G from my breville express machine into 8 oz cup? Cheers!
@finnianjenkins2872
@finnianjenkins2872 26 дней назад
Is it possible make a 58.5mm group head and basket with the depth to accommodate 25-30g of coffee (or however much it works out to be for a 16 ounce) so that you don’t have to split and you can pump them out even faster ?
@cysdfz3915
@cysdfz3915 Год назад
Thanks for this new very helpful video. Great content once again!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
cheers
@kungov147
@kungov147 Год назад
I've only ever come across a few cafes with great tasting coffee and being not too milky
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Yea it can be a challenge, some are too strong and bitter or it’s milky
@andrewjacobscy
@andrewjacobscy Год назад
Hey there, thx for the video first. I am just wondering if it is acceptable to use a bigger basket for a bigger size cup? Well, the problem with this practice obviously is that you will not be able to adjust the grind size for the bigger basket. With that said, I do wonder why on most grinders there are usually grind pause settings for two or even three doses. Are these settings for different size baskets?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Yes different buttons will dose different grind volumes, however you do need to adjust grind as you get a larger dose so it would be hard to have one that fits all
@kopukcoffeeshop
@kopukcoffeeshop Год назад
Thank you that is very helpful I learned a lot from your videos
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Glad to hear it!
@alexeyev2
@alexeyev2 Год назад
thanks, was very helpful cheers from Mexico
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
thank you for watching. Cheers Luke
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
What makes a double ris same amount of g in just less out right what would be a good start for a double ris for 53mm at 20g in
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
Question I know you don’t get into it but would you say 2 double shots in 20oz only asking bc I’m in USA and yea they don’t use right amount but I also want offer what most buy which are 16 and 20oz I don’t agree but that’s how it is here what would u say as far 20oz
@jacovanzyl2818
@jacovanzyl2818 Год назад
Awesome video! Thanks Guys!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
cheers glad you liked it
@serenajroberts
@serenajroberts Год назад
Thanks for the info! Do you plan to make a cute little infographic to go along with this as a quick reference guide?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Eventually, as its being asked for. stay tuned
@firenzeong317
@firenzeong317 Год назад
Great video. My current cafe is offering 2 shots for 16 oz , 1 shot for 8 oz. I hardly see the colour of the coffee as they appear too milky to me after mixing with milk.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
so sad, 😥 share this video with them
@michaeldhondt368
@michaeldhondt368 6 месяцев назад
i never return to cafes that do shots like that, there should be no size choice of espresso based coffee drinks. I find that a couple coffee shops in my local area make the drinks correctly the rest are not tasting as I expect them to mostly too milky because they use cups that are too large for the drink
@TrisnoShaka
@TrisnoShaka Год назад
My machine come with 18-19gr double basket. Should i buy another basket with 22gr like vst or ims? Or just try the best of the original one?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
If you can afford to upgrade the flow of water will be more consistent, so ideal if you can
@kimbridge5592
@kimbridge5592 Месяц назад
just what i was wondering too. thanks
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Месяц назад
Glad to help
@babackd.6485
@babackd.6485 Год назад
Great stuff Luke. Thanks. One question: you mentioned double shot and double ristretto. Is there a distinction between the two?
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs Год назад
Watch their video on what a ristretto is.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
yes, the term double shot is the same as what we call a normale in our recipes, the double ristretto is a 1:1 ratio so 22.5g dose with a 22.5g espresso the double shot is 2:1 45g espresso
@babackd.6485
@babackd.6485 Год назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters thanks for the reply. So when you say a double ristretto, you pour two ristretto shots into one cup? That doesn't seems right 🤔
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave Год назад
@@babackd.6485 it's to get a stronger flavour for the same amount of coffee into the cup - is my understanding ;)
@babackd.6485
@babackd.6485 Год назад
@@OldFellaDave the thing is, I don't recall seeing them do that in the menu video where Jimmy makes all the coffees they serve
@lmankj
@lmankj 7 месяцев назад
agree, many milk drink are just not strong enough, way too milky and mild...I like to max out on the shots.
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
So glade finally made this video I recommend it so many times I which though I could supply me in USA
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
i can't believe this video is tracking so well, did i hit a sore point for baristas and coffee consumers?
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters not sure but I always watch your videos in USA as baristas and shops here got it all wrong
@devw4967
@devw4967 11 месяцев назад
One thing I'm confused about is i know a ristretto is pulled quicker and getting more strength. But is a regular double 1:2 more than a double ristretto 1:1?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 11 месяцев назад
Yes it it, it’s a larger about of water passes thru the same coffee, so the ristretto is a more concentrated smaller volume espresso. Cheers luke
@alinfs50
@alinfs50 2 месяца назад
270ml ( 9 oz )cappucino cup . how much coffee use ? & what kind of shot ? how much milk to steam and add ?
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
Can you make pdf file of this to share like u did for cold drink menu but for size cups
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
i will add it to the list.
@jasonisclaw3241
@jasonisclaw3241 3 месяца назад
Great information. Could you actually make a video of you demonstrating and making the drinks? I’m a visual learner 😂😊
@cerealport2726
@cerealport2726 Год назад
Have any cafes or coffee places put a "recommended" size next to their coffees, or the number of shots in each cup? I have to admit I have not noticed if anyone does, but nor have I looked, really...
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
some shops in OZ put 1,2,3, shots on the Takeaway cups on the counter to help customer know what they are getting
@Doobency
@Doobency Год назад
We do 2 shots in our 16 oz to cave in to customers who want much sweeter/milkier coffees (located in US). In most US shops, a 16 oz has 2 shots. To a lot, itz perfect, because they're used to much sweeter and milkier drinks. However, for true coffee enthusiasts, we make it clear that our 12 oz is a perfect balance. It's a system I partially disagree with, but business is good on both fronts, so whatever.
@cerealport2726
@cerealport2726 Год назад
Even when they are wrong, the customer is always right!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
thanks for the info, yes the customer is always right, that's the recipe for sure to suit that customer, its also very profitable
@rroesstorff
@rroesstorff Год назад
What about using a much bigger basket, like a 24g and running a "triple" in one go? I find those 500ml cups to slow the flow down too much to even have them on my menu.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
sure you can do that, but at 24g you sill only get 48g of espresso, not sure its enough
@rroesstorff
@rroesstorff Год назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters I beg your pardon, did you just assume my ratio? 😂😉.
@ElefanteFilms
@ElefanteFilms Год назад
In this case, what would be the stronger coffee flavor? A lungo at a 1:3 ratio with 24 in and 72 out? A ristretto with a 1:1? Or a normale?
@ForumCat
@ForumCat Год назад
No mention of what has been ordered? Flat white very different to CafeLatte different again to cappuccino. How many shots in a 12oz latte, flat white, cappuccino, or cortado!?
@chupata2
@chupata2 Год назад
They have a video explaining their coffee recipes for those drinks "Coffee Menu Explained What the most common coffees are and how to make them". I recomend watching that video it is very detailed
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
its not different on a takeaway cup as the size is the same for all drinks, this is accepted in OZ, but in dine in the cup size changes for Latte, cap, Long blacks
@ForumCat
@ForumCat Год назад
Does that mean that in Oz one does not ask for a take away Flat White or take away Cappuccino? Only for a take away coffee? As a new to the business coffee shop owner in the UK this seems… odd!
@beyondfshn2844
@beyondfshn2844 Год назад
What if u have single group
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany Год назад
Takeaway cups are categorised by their fluid ounce capacity but cups are sold according to their capacity in millilitres. Coffee and yield is measured in grams as well. So why are takeaway cups the exception?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
yes, it still form the suppliers calling them the OZ its really hard for us in Australia, if only all suppliers would change to ml we would be happy
@devotedpickleball
@devotedpickleball 8 месяцев назад
Sorry, I’m a bit confused. If I understand correctly you use a ristretto for an 8oz drink, but isn’t a ristretto a stronger tasting shot than a standard double? If so, wouldn’t you want the double ristretto in the 12 and the standard shot in the 8?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 8 месяцев назад
It is confusing but no, a full double normale is more liquid therefore stronger than a double ristretto.
@devotedpickleball
@devotedpickleball 8 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters got it. Thank you!
@JeronimoJGC
@JeronimoJGC Год назад
It’s confusing that you use “double shot” and “double ristretto” interchangeably. Also with one shot and one double shot. As I’ve learned from your videos I understand: Double shot 1:2 Split double shot 1:2 / 2 Ristretto 1:1 Double Ristretto 1:1 x2
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Yes it was hard to explain what we do and what people know it as, watch again an I’m sure it will make sense after confirming your message info. Cheers luke
@troythrashmusic6058
@troythrashmusic6058 9 месяцев назад
Questions why not pull a Lungo for the 16oz?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 9 месяцев назад
As it will taste thin and more bitter. It’s not what we like to go here in Australia. It will not taste similar to the smaller sizes when you change the recipe just for a larger cup. It means all the espresso is the same ratio
@borneogarage36
@borneogarage36 Год назад
being milky is very subjective, I run cafe business. Here at my location, they prefer milky coffee which quite disappointing as a coffee lover my customer not able to appreciate the flavour of the coffee
@gusmank
@gusmank Год назад
It will change in 5 years. South east asia always late 5 year behind in trend 😁
@Doobency
@Doobency Год назад
Are you in the US? I've noticed here that a lot of shops like to do 2 shots in 16 oz. For true coffee enthusiasts, that's way too sweet. For those used to Starbucks, it's much better. At my shop, we do 2 shots in both 12 oz and 16 oz. If somebody wants a slightly sweet drink, but also is deeply interested in the coffee, we offer 12 oz or 16oz with 3 shots. If somebody wants it a lot sweeter, we recommend just a plain 16 oz.
@borneogarage36
@borneogarage36 Год назад
@@Doobency nope, based in Malaysia
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
it sound like Australia about 5 years ago, very milky coffee, but we can not serve ti like this anymore as a specality offering
@blurringsight
@blurringsight Год назад
Hey there 👋🏼 where is your cafe? Don’t tell me you’re at Sabah or Sarawak.😅
@joshuaselwocki9899
@joshuaselwocki9899 Год назад
When you say split shot are you referring to a single shot. So the 16oz would be 3 shots in total? I work at Starbucks I never get the 24oz because of the milk espresso ration lol 😂
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany Год назад
Split a double shot into two singles with one of the singles going into your 16oz cup. Then add a full double shot and there you have it.
@joshuaselwocki9899
@joshuaselwocki9899 Год назад
@@OneIdeaTooMany that’s what I thought but thinking and knowing are not the same thing lol. Thanks for clarifying
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
check our our videos on our recipes for clarification its a dose of 22.5g with a 45g espresso that can be out a double portafilter into 2 cups
@nipunlokuwithanage4149
@nipunlokuwithanage4149 Год назад
is it unusual to get 2 double ristrettos in a 12oz?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
very, as that is 2 portafilter handles, it would be full bodied and cost more
@nipunlokuwithanage4149
@nipunlokuwithanage4149 Год назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters sorry i meant in a 16oz instead of a triple shot?
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave Год назад
Bloody Zaraffas! I stop in there maybe once every 2 years when I forget how garbage their coffee is and get that 16 ounce they have ... and every single time its milkier than Casper the Ghost even with an 'extra shot' ...
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Yes , I believe it’s still one shot 😩
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 7 месяцев назад
Tradie coffee is pretty much an American coffee
@MrJusmobile
@MrJusmobile Год назад
We need to go by Italian standards in my humble opinion. 1 oz in a 6 oz. cappuccino cup. Do the math from there.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
its like a whole different world with italian style, dark roast is a thing of the past
@bpeg88
@bpeg88 9 месяцев назад
Who uses onces? Oh! Come on!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 9 месяцев назад
It’s still the measure that’s in our industry unfortunately, like babies 😂
@JuliusSP1
@JuliusSP1 Год назад
Just get rid of the 16 for milk.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
yes, it only suits some cafes
@sasipotl8954
@sasipotl8954 6 месяцев назад
It would have been better. If you would have showed them rather than talking about it
@scottscottsdale7868
@scottscottsdale7868 Год назад
Better without the hat. But it was good branding.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Год назад
Hiding the greys 😂
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