Im fully prepared right now to work for you. I'll do ur test and make it look exactly like yours, if not better. I want nothing less than $30hr. What say you?
@@anthonycmiller if you've never welded then how would you know, as a hobbyist welder I know that aside from cleaning off mill scale and tuning your machine, the rest of these tips are simply good practice as a commercial welder, and signs that you dont cut corners which builds trust with customers, not hard to brush your beads or spray anti spatter, and mig welding is especially easy.
Orang Malu if you have the chance right now, you should start welding, I’ve been welding for a couple months now, and I haven’t spent much money and I’ve learnt a lot
Nah man longer than that, you need to go for coffee first, then clean up, then go for lunch, and then call the visual guy just before second coffee, then call the inspector when there is 5 minutes left in shift lol.
The major thing that all of these $10 vs $100 discussions leave out is your ability as a fabricator and a problem solver. Those two things are equally as important as your skill as a welder.
Also, unless you are doing code quality welding, you'd be lucky to even make $20 an hour in Cleveland, Ohio. Most places are fine with short arc and globular spatter.
I work as a welder/fabricator in a metal structures fab shop, our welding is pretty much immaculate, but the truth is, fabricator makes up 80%+ of the job and it’s the harder skill to master by a long shot. You gotta be able to adapt accurately on the fly
Well put. I have trained welders in a custom fabrication environment. I have met great fixture welders ( lay a bead I'm jealous of) that were lousy at fabrication. Problem solving and basic geometry knowledge go a long way.
Funny part is I'm a damn good fabricator but I disappointed my machinist dad and his welder/fabricator brother by deciding i wanna be a diesel mechanic
My dad welds pipes for a living. He started to teach me and my brothers how to weld at the ages of 14 to 16 and I see it will be a useful thing for the future to lay back on if things dont go right. I am just lucky my father can teach me these things.
@Will Swift it pays well depending on where and what kind of welding. Someone building park benches wont make as much as someone doing position welding on pipe etc.
>to lay back on if things dont go right Unfortunately, I'm 30 and things didn't go right as a digital artist. Is it possible to jump in on welding, like classes or such?
...gotta put my 2-cents in... if your getting SPATTER your to high on WFS or cold on heat... have a fellow welder (if possible) turn up your heat as your welding... that SPATTER should disappear... also, PUSH that solid wire!!! Don’t drag it!
@@taylor4155 What I said makes perfect grammatical sense. If you're paying by the weld instead of by the hour then what happens is you're putting a higher value in quantity of work instead of quality.
first off the tacks he put on there were too big for the material... secondly you only need 2 not four or if you want a goood ass weld thats uniform use thin washers as a spacer eliminates all that shit too
Thing about this is his work and prep is already so spot on, the wire brush didnt have the same "ah ha" effect it would have had on one of the first 2 he did...
Cause welding is sick and awesome. I did it in 100 degree heat and it still was awesome. Its cool on all levels of craftsmanship and science due to Omh's Law and Particle Physics.
I've been welding in some capacity since high school in 1975. I never told anyone I'm the best. My welds are usually acceptable, never had anything structural break, including overhead welds to install trailer tongues. I told my employers calling me a welder is like calling the guy at McDonalds a chef. I'd rather them be pleasantly surprised that my work is acceptable. There's always someone better.
oldrustycars You dont have to be the best but you can be confident in your work. Believe that you are good and your work will be even better. You are a very humble person
I learned arc wielding when I was a teen. I preferred tight circling and my groups were tight and uniform. There is just something rewarding about doing the perfect weld. It was addictive.
@@HazyTown01 well. It’s impossible where I live (Ohio) to get a job welding at 60 an hour so I wouldn’t be able to show you. That’s like almost impossible. The most you can top out for welding around here is like no more than 40. I make 22 an hour and my welds looks just as good lol.
gl getting a single customer to pay that much for someone that new, You'd be lucky to get an unpaid internship with that little experience because in the welding experience is key.
1. There is a difference between a welder and a rodburner. Welders with good fabrication skills make big money. 2. The only welders I know making +$50/hr welding are Union Welders with minimum 10years journeyman experience or pipliners that are Stick/TIG combo welders that run their own rigs. 3. Never seen a wirefeed welder make over $20/hr. 4. Geat advice for begineers though. Having pride in your work and taking the time to prep and clean will make a world of difference. Practice and learn from mistakes. Keep investing in newer/better equipment as you progress. 5. Lastly make sure everything is Square, Plumb, and Level before you weld and after.
Now I know my high school shop class had a good teacher. With his instruction I was doing probably $50/hr weld quality. I took 3 semesters of welding and wish I could afford to get back into it. Welding was a lot of fun
A wise old welder once told me, while twisting his arm around the back of a pipe to plate welder..."Start uncomfortable, finish comfortable" That way the weld is near joinless. It's a good metaphor for a working day too!
Years ago I was a welder, always took pride. Now I am a locomotive engineer. All of our locomotives have welds that look like the $10/hour weld. Those are just the welds in the cab that I can see. Can only imagine what the rest look like.
Or just know how to weld, so you can include your tacks... Thus not taking a week to do a fillet weld. Pull shite like that on the floor and they'll run you for being slow.
No one else in the comments going to mention how bed this welding is? Even the $60 weld is rough as. Why are you weaving? Dragging with a MIG welder? These welds are bad. Anyone in the comments thinking this is a great video teaching them how to weld have been massively misled. Source; Am a boilermaker, can weld.
it is interesting how you completely disregarded the fact that if the piece is going to go be prone to metal fatigue or is highly structural should you avoid to all cost of having a start/stop in a corner. start an inch away from the corner and weld around it. it is really difficult to weld around a corner in the beginning but the risk of getting cracks are far lower
@@cptsetsiyah1729 yea, a start in a corner causes micro pores which is a place for cracks to form. a stop in a corner gets a hardening effect and contains more tension which is a place for cracks to start. and finally, a corner is a stress concentration location which is where cracks form. if it is structural, never start in a corner
I am an international Weldung specialist (IWS made in germany Ulm) and you just make so many mistakes in just 1 clip don´t know how to say it but you have bonding flaws all over if you brake the weld..... get more Ampere on it!!!! Yo don´t have to toggle up an down just go a staight line when you weld thickness like this please dont think the weld ist good because the surface looks like!!!!
I agree with that! I would never weld the way he does plus there can be much more mistakes without seeing it. And to ne honest i never did see someone weld like this ....
Soll keine Kritik sein, aber man muss nicht mal ein Spezialist für’s Schweißen sein, um zu sehen, dass das Mist ist. Ein einwöchiger Schweißlehrgang in meiner Lehre damals reicht mir schon um zu wissen, dass er nicht gut schweißt. Zu geringe Stromstärke, zu weit weg mit der Düse, sinnlose auf und ab Bewegungen... das alles führt zu minderwertigen Ergebnissen
I don't know why American welders move the mig so much when welding. They could get a lot better result with a bit more amp and just moving it straight instead of wobbling it around always.
@Dаяк_ метаL egal ist das nicht. Das kann man höchstens machen, wenn die Lücke zwischen den Teilen zu groß ist. Ansonsten sollte man das vermeiden, da die erhöhte Gefahr von Schmutzeinflüssen besteht, der Schweißzusatz nicht gleichmäßig mit den Bauteilen verschmelzt und die Schweißnaht allgemein ungleichmäßig aussieht.
I'm an IT guy and here I thought "a little extra knowledge can never hurt". It hurt my damn wallet is what happend! About to buy a plasma torch too to cut metal more quickly...
i have see something like that before where a transport cradle was tacked together and where the welds should of been they put Silastic then painted it i was looking at it thinking now thats some neat welds till i touched it and it was soft just as well it was found before it was used as a cradle for a 5 ton electric motor
You can also make the weld stronger in this case by wrapping your corners; stopping and starting along the 4 flat sections of the joint rather than the corners decreases the likelihood of lack-of-fusion which is a concern due to the change in geometry on a corner.
@@FullCircleTravis Also true but depends on the process and what the weld sheet asks for. I have done both stacked an weaved fillets. Weaved fillets have more of a chance of cracking and breaking in the middle if done incorrectly. Stacking 3 stringers usually is a stronger weld if stacked correctly and is easier. This kinda the argument of stringers verses weaves but it all depends on what you are doing. For a person starting which I was taught in trade school to make stacked stringer fillets before weaved ones. Some cases like a thick lap joint you need to do both. The real fun begins during a overhead corner joint with all the mig splatter hitting you in the face thank goodness I don't see that to much I hated that project in school.
back in high school, i took a VoAg class that taught us some welding (as well as some other shop stuff). we were all using rusted up scrap that's been used excessively for years, which resulted in our TIG rods to get stuck easily. the only real big projects we had in that class were for everyone to work together in building a storage closet, as well as taking a large section of pipe and converting it into a grill using a plasma cutter
The whole video is bullshit. The tips are mostly fine but the prices are complete horse shit. If it was that simple everyone would be charging $50/hr for their welds.
@@nerfzinet Yeah tbh the very first shit weld by someone else looked like they didn't even know how to weld. To me, all of his welds looked perfectly fine because of his skill at actually welding, not adding something to it. I'm also not paying 20-60+ more an hour to get my work wire brushed, when I could literally do that myself
@@ALittleMessi Indeed, those price ranges are totally bonkers. In all honesty, if you are self-employed it does not really matter too much about your skill, but more what you are willing to do for their price. Are you only working at your place or do you have the possibility to move on site? Is MAG all you do? How much rent do you pay for your workplace, how much does the maintaining of your equipment cost? If you are employed, good luck finding a place that pays 30+€ for that kinda work. Not saying he did a bad job, but doing a good job is certainly not hard. Anyone with half a year training can cast very nice welds.
You pay for the skill not how easy it looks to you or that were true electricians would be rolling up in a 96 Honda Civic not a fully loaded 2022 Toyota Tundra or dodge Cummings but agree with some of the points made in the comments. The more shit you use, the less corners you cut, the better job you do etc the price does go up.
People say to me oh you have a welder so you can weld things . I say "why no but I do stick metal together" . I'm working on it watching vids and stuff . Usually I take what ever it is I stuck together and smash it on the concrete and if it doesn't come apart I figured that's ok . Got to start somewhere and I'm having a bunch of fun .
So basically, all You´re saying is, as long as it looks nice, it doesn´t even matter if it is stable or not. Seems to be like a classic instagram welder to me.
he is a professional welder, just happens to make videos for fun. it matters in how it looks for things that is gonna be seen. one could care less if its some fix on some industrial equipment, so long it holds its good. but if it is fixed onto a car, bike, snowmobie, boat, house(you catch my drift) you want it to look nice.
I'm a mechanical engineer. A very old professor after the theoretical explanation about weld fatigue etc. said: a mechanically stable weld is often a nice to look one.
Yeah the video is complete horse shit. The tips are fine, but the price differences are just stupid. Like yeah I'm gonna charge $40/hr instead of $30/hr because I know how to use a fucking spray can? They basically took a "MIG 101" video and for some reason attached imaginary hourly pay rates to the tips.
Them welds are to cold , your weaving to create more heat than just putting 0.9mm wire or 1.2 mm & just smash that welding time in half & no weaving with a flatter surface 😁👍
@@AzKat69 I'm a boilermaker, welder & with the amount of weaving your doing for a what is It 5mm or 6mm steel tubing to me is still overkill but if you want a true penetration weld that looks smooth & less wire & time to weld just crank up that machine a little more 😁👌 & you will notice a massive difference
@@tomhill3248 thats why it's a high payed trade skill, feed rates voltage proper speed of the head can burn through not penetrate etc etc hence why a A on every check box is expensive because it takes years of working on different thickness's of just steel to get an intuitive understanding of what you need doubly so when working with 2 different thickness's, not even counting past mild steel, throw in things like HardOx or titanium etc etc then the previous learned thickness's to feed and voltage and it becomes a task of massive size to know all that by heart and sometimes you can only practice a warm up with something close not the actual size.
Depends on: (1) the value of the application, and (2) how difficult it is to get someone as skilled as you. If you would be welding the piping of a nuclear plant, and you are best-in class, you could easily charge 300 usd per hour.
lmao. this actually made me feel good about myself. i started welding with the $90 FCAW from harbor freight last week and I've ran maybe 18 feet of bead since then and none of my shit was that bad. A little home project made me decide to switch majors and do welding as a career. i woke up on day 1 at maybe 0830 and made my first weld at like 0900, the next thing i know it's 0100 in the morning when my wife came out and asked me wtf i was doing. i was having so much fun working i lost all track of time. anyway thanks for these tips. i take pride in my work and you just saved me years of trail and error. +1 sub
Wait...you said you started at 0900 (9:00 AM) and kept it up until 0100 (1:00 AM) the following morning? And that's when your wife asked you what the frick you were doing? 🤨 That's 15 hours, man. Are you sure you didn't mean 0900 to 1300? Because that's still four hours, but it's more reasonable than 15, I think. (1300 is 1:00PM on the "standard" 12 hour clock) Either way, congrats on finding something you enjoy doing, and deciding to pursue it!
A good thing I learned after years of welding Atleast with a mig is try to stop as least as possible Atleast do 2 sides at a time so you have less start and stops. And when you get to your last side start about a half inch away arc come back to your previous weld then run back the other way. Also when youre about to run into a previous weld turn you nozzle at an angle it'll make it flat where you won't even see a blend.
@@greyghost1962 Dragging is always suggested over pushing in Flux Core. And his welds came out pretty good. This was a good video, not sure what all the negative comments are about
@@blackflycanada4943 i know that lol i went to trade school got to do just about all the major types of welding....was telling the guy who said it was flux core that it wasn't lol.....
I didn't when i watched this the first time around last week but ill be starting a new job as a trainee welder tomorrow, the algorithm is creepy like that sometimes.
I’m a journeyman welder for the department of defense. Been welding for almost 10 years I make 36$hr. Can you get 60$ a hour? Yes. But that’s if you have your welding rig and your most likely on the pipeline. Welders who make 60$ hr don’t have a 401k or health benefits unless the pay for it on their own
@@nocheesesports3168 I'm inclined to believe you get paid well because you joined a union, not because you're any special at welding. Plenty of people who get paid good money for doing shit work, buddy. Sounds like joining a union is the way to go, even for shitty welders.
I'm a shitty welder because I joined a union? Hand you aren't qualified to put my rods in the oven let alone speak to me about welding. I worked non union for the better half of a decade running shutdowns and outages from coast to coast before settling down and joining a local so I could be at home. You know nothing, peasant. Move along.
Not to mention theese oscillations are not needed in this welding joint.....spatters are result of wrong or incorect machine settup....Cold welding is the best description for what we are seeing here.
RU-vid: You should learn about welding Me: But I have no interest or need in welding RU-vid: You will learn about welding today Me: But... RU-vid: I am not asking...
I needed some things welded and the people wanted 50 to 100 a weld. It seemed extreme, so I went to RU-vid and found you guys. My welds are not pretty but a grinder cleans them up. Not one weld has broke yet, so thanks for your teaching us.
If allways been told weld as hot as possible while avoiding undercut or blowing holes. Obviously some applications that dosnt apply but for general fab work is a not bad rule for good strong welds
welding is SOO satisfying dude. If I couldn't weld my rustcoma/tacoma would have split in half. Every time I accelerated it would curl quite a bit in the mirror. I sand blasted and weld 3/16 steel plating. Aint gunna fall apart now. Learning to weld in high school is the best thing I ever did
Is it sad that i just turned 15 working in some factories and other reasonably big companys and so called "welders" are doing $10 welds for 30-40 bucks. they do 4 year tafe courses for that and most of the times we have to go in and fix them.
As a sandblaster and coater I couldnt agree more on professional welding . That anti splatter spray is something I'm gonna start handing out so I dont have to file and clean the area as much Basically if the fab and install are done properly the rest of the scope will go even better. Like when working below ground , some people clear the area just for the object not for the workers to go work. It's good for other trades to learn other trades , helps us understand and improve the process
It doesn't matter how good a weld looks I welded for 21 years they don't want to pay you more than $10 to $15 an hour it doesn't matter where you go but I know every welder is better than every other welder it's just welding
really depends on the stuff you work on whether its industrial stuff or a park bench from what i have seen. I aint a welder but install the benches and garbage cans. Im a landscaper and half the time they just want the work done and dont care how it looks when it comes to commercial jobs.
@RandomDogeee well you can get a scar from welding if you catch yourself on fire, if your weld drips onto you, or if a large weld berry lands on you right it can burn through your jeans and scar you pretty quick...
im 15 now, after high school im going to a college. than im going to school ones a week and 4 days in the week to work at my dads business. i love to work with the big machines and ur welds are such an inspiration.
i think the worst part about welding is the heat and for some reason sun damage?? i think i remember somewhere that welding tans ur face, wild! but it looks so fun, craftsmans jobs seem therapeutic but the hunching doesnt look fun
Uhh you shouldn't be getting light on your face that's a big no no.. your neck is the hardest to protect I tig weld aluminum alot and it bounces easily,but still no light on the face.. I do put sunscreen on tho just one coat especially on the neck
Professional welders are few and far between. Today with all the machines out in the field, anyone who can turn on a machine is a welder. But reality will usually hit them right in the teeth and will be looking for a new job. Till eventually someone hardup will take the time to teach them. Nice video fella.
RU-vid is amazing. I have 2 screwdrivers, 1 hammer and 0 skills for fixing things in the house and somehow I ended up watching welding videos. Now I feel I need that machine. Great video!
We had a welder at my dads construction company that was so perfect you could but micrometer on his beads and there was zero size or depth difference no matter how long the weld was. That guy was an artist with a welder! O and he swore by stick and refused to use wire.
I did notice he was not using a stick welder. Stick welders will always be a work horse out in the field. AKA when you just need to get that Iron up and running. I want the weld to hold then I want it fast. If it looks good I will take it. It is hard to find guys like the man you are talking about.
I am going to school for Auto Body Collison Repair and Refinishing so Welding is apart of the curriculum but not the main source of it. However this video has given me a lot more insight on how well I should be doing my welds. I don't think I'm a bad welder just not a good one, and that's not me having no confidence in my welds I just compare them to better welds and know there is always room for improvement. I find this video highly educational, helpful, and I plan to use these techniques in my education until I feel comfortable saying I have made a great weld on panels.
And do that all in reasonable speed, you forgot to add, because anyone can take his time doing perfect welding, but only few can get it perfect on the first try. I am doing programming, not welding. I earn 2 times as much as my fellow workers, but I do 3 times their work in the same time, so that is fair.
I am a Aws certified welder and yeah his 60/hour welds would fail a UT test and perhaps an xray . Pause the video at 4 mins 29 seconds , you can see on the right hand piece , a huge undercut which would make a weak spot in the weld , under vibrations that undercut would cause a crack and eventually a failed weld. AT @6:13 on the bottom corner you can also see a bit of undercuts on top ,an easy fix is to use a zip cut wheel and cut a nice trace on the weld to get the undercut out and place another bead.
Good luck trying to convince the client that the 60 dollar weld has 3 times the value of the 20 dollar weld. Given the same project budget, you telling me it is worth slowing down the task by 3x (comparative to hiring 3 welders for same cost) because the weld looks 1% better visually?
Exactly my thought, most welds end up somewhere in a machine or construction anyway so noone will give a damn if its polished or not, it just has to be strong and I wouldn’t be surprised if the 20 dollar is just as strong as the 60. Grinding the tacs seemed very counter productive to me since it costs time, risks damaging the product and most likely only weakens the weld
@TheMrCaptainStfu If your beads don't penetrate well past the depth of your tacks, strength clearly isn't one of your goals. Tacks are shallow, and the mass of metal in a heavy tack will actually shield the root of the joint when you run your bead. So if you like your full depth welds punctuated by spots with poor penetration, by all means, leave your tacks.
What’s funny is welding video showing how to be expert welder and a real expert welder not sure what the hell he is doing or where he got any of these ideas. Guy making the video needs to watch somebody else’s video on how to really weld.
I'm 28, decided to change what I do and I'm going to uni for Fabrication and Welding this year, can't wait. I aspire to be great, not lazy, these tips are awesome.
"heeeey bro can u just weld me this tube real quick" **me actually doing all the work required for a 60$/hr weld** "wait what bro u want money for this? it's just a small weld"
It's not really paying for the material, most of the pay comes from the specialized skill because it's not a common skill to have and takes hundreds of hours worth of practice to be proficient
@@darianbarber3763 That's what i meant, people bring me shit all the time to weld and i do them as favours. It's like asking lawyer for free legal advice. I guess I'm just a nice guy.
