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How Nick FAILED to Ruin Avatar: The Last Airbender 

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@Multiroester
@Multiroester Год назад
can someone please sum up what this dude tells us in 26 minutes?
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
Avatar was a surprise hit for Nick despite it breaking all the rules that made other Nick shows like Spongebob popular. As a result, Nick execs weren't sure how to treat the show and constantly made poor decisions that Avatar's creators had to correct later (like airing reruns out of order). This culminated with the release of Korra when Nick started to straight up interfere with the show's success by censoring the planned story, messing with the budget, and pulling the show from air midseason. But Avatar persisted and now that it's super popular again, Nick is throwing the original creators a ton of money and giving them their own studio that they (presumably) have way more freedom to grow the franchise 👍
@puga2409
@puga2409 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtleLMAO
@NyxBorn7080
@NyxBorn7080 Год назад
No fuck nick 😤
@Agrival01
@Agrival01 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle wait they are getting resources for a new project?? holy shit
@noahblaine1901
@noahblaine1901 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle you should of generated a transcript and replied it lol
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther 2 года назад
Nick: "Air Bender sold really well, so we'll let you do a little bit of violence for Korra, okay?" Bryke: "I'm-a suffocate a queen." Nick: "Wait, what?" Bryke: "And make a chick blow up her own head." Nick: "..." Bryke: "And give Korra PTSD."
@chriscobb2102
@chriscobb2102 Год назад
And mercury poisoning, that's pretty brutal
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther Год назад
@@chriscobb2102 Ah yes, very true.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Год назад
Korra can have a little violence as a treat
@rhysgrealish5227
@rhysgrealish5227 Год назад
And yet those were the best parts of Season 3.
@Imoru000
@Imoru000 Год назад
And make Korra loose all contact of the other Avatar before her to make it even more stressful for her to know what to do.
@littenfire3563
@littenfire3563 2 года назад
Avatar proves Nickelodeon has no idea how to handle more story driven shows lol
@matthewkuscienko4616
@matthewkuscienko4616 Год назад
I feel like that probably has something to do with the fact that Nickelodeon has always been primarily focused on more comedic series, with Avatar being the biggest standout to break that mold. Because of this, it seems like they have been focusing more on those types of shows recently, with there being a particularly large emphasis on cashing in on SpongeBob by having made a couple of different spin-offs of it because it has become the face of the network. That said, it would be better to focus more on Avatar instead, in my opinion, as ATLA definitely has more appeal to a broader audience than SpongeBob does, and the fact that the series is still so beloved and has practically everyone who talks about it singing it's praises is just proof of how great it is
@DaWoWzer
@DaWoWzer Год назад
which is why I don't trust another single good avatar project to be produced again, Korra was already basically the star wars prequels of Avatar, from this point on we're only going to get Star wars sequel quality. I'd rather the series and world stay dead than see it get destroyed. the one good thing though is even if it does get ruined (which lets be honest is going to happen) we'll always have the original.
@NYKevin100
@NYKevin100 Год назад
Around this time period, it was highly common for cartoons (in general, not on Nick specifically) to be cancelled at 65 episodes. I believe Disney actually had this as a hard rule. Nick shows frequently went longer (sometimes *much* longer, in the case of Spongebob and a few others), but AtLA was not one of those shows, ending after 61 episodes. Why 65? Because 65 = 5 × 13. That lets you run an episode once every weekday for a quarter (13 weeks), so it neatly fits into a simple "weekdays at [whenever]" timeslot. This is considered the minimum for syndication, or was at the time. If you have more than 65 episodes, the extra episodes are "wasted" because they don't fit into the rotation (and so they don't get aired, or only get aired as part of next quarter's rotation, if there is one). So Disney, and some other studios, would just cancel the show as soon as they had enough episodes. Presumably, Nick didn't care about this limit because Nicktoons were rarely (never?) syndicated. But it still goes to show the overall attitude that the (western) industry took towards animation at the time - it was a business, not an art form, and the business was selling toys. Making a good show was seen as a means to that end, not a goal in its own right. Similar problems can be seen with Gargoyles and quite a few other 90's to early 2000's shows throughout the industry. It would take a good 20 or so years for the industry to fully adapt to all the barriers that Batman: The Animated Series managed to break during its run in the 90's.
@asclepius.dionysus
@asclepius.dionysus Год назад
@@DaWoWzer Imagine if James Cameron was given the rights to Avatar, this one I mean.
@kidlo2050
@kidlo2050 Год назад
Yea I mean spongebob is their main advertised cartoon.
@MrTrumpy77
@MrTrumpy77 Год назад
I can't believe they didn't realise that releasing the episodes chronologically would be the best way. That's insane.
@Nevershushu00
@Nevershushu00 5 месяцев назад
279 likes and 0 replies?let me fix that!
@FFG0D
@FFG0D 5 месяцев назад
279 months no father? I can't fix that!
@enemy8497
@enemy8497 4 месяца назад
they were probably released chronologically, but on re-runs they would play episodes at random because they thought thats what they do for all the other shows, why wouldn’t it work for this one?
@mimikyulover3411
@mimikyulover3411 Год назад
If I had a penny for every time a network ruined an amazing animated show because of their incompetence, I'd be rich. Looking also at you, owl house, you will never be forgotten
@ThiccDaddy326
@ThiccDaddy326 Год назад
Owl house is lame anyway
@Nullthewolf01
@Nullthewolf01 6 месяцев назад
@@ThiccDaddy326 why do i have a feeling you thinking it's lame has nothing to do with why you're saying this
@trajectoryunown
@trajectoryunown 5 месяцев назад
@@ThiccDaddy326 Disney has only had 3 hits in the last decade or so: Owl house, Amphibia, and Gravity Falls. Disney should be latching hold of every show that's well-received, not cancelling them. (Though I do think they made the right call with Gravity Falls and maybe for Amphibia) Owl House was the only one of the three with the potential for long-term development. The world-building in the first season alone provides the foundation for a 10-20 season run with movies, comics, and video games. Why they didn't decide to keep pursuing it is mind-boggling. Owl House could have been Disney's Avatar, Disney's Harry Potter, Disney's very own Star Wars EU, but they'd rather besmirch their own legacy and drag anything they can down with them.
@look-its-mac
@look-its-mac 5 месяцев назад
​@@trajectoryunown I feel the only problem with that is that unless they make a new story in the same world, Owl House would've become stale quickly. There's a reason Gravity Falls ended after 2 seasons: it didn't overstay it's welcome. When you tell a story, you should condense your story to just that. Don't milk it to the point it besmirches what you already have
@trajectoryunown
@trajectoryunown 5 месяцев назад
@@look-its-mac Gravity Falls had a rare "perfect" ending. There wasn't a reason to continue it as far as writing goes. Maybe there's a reuinion special or two some years down the road. Maybe not. The writers wrapped it up nice and clean then tied off with a bow. That's a rarity in entertainment. Amphibia got a bit weird towards the end and was also at a pretty good stopping point. The reason I believe Owl House is different is because they set up a lot with the side-characters. A return to "normal" life would still be interesting. Between that, Luz's time at school, and the fact that most of the world was never even touched on... Well, there's a lot there. Unfortunately, Owl House was on borrowed time since season 2. It was clear the writers knew it was going to end soon, but they weren't quite sure when. That just got amplified drastically as time went on. Season 3 was rushed beyond belief, and the fact that Disney didn't even green light a full 4th season is baffling. Too busy using that budget to ruin classic IPs, I'm sure. Point is, Owl House _definitely_ has at least a good 2 or more full seasons left in it, even if it's just an end-game romp it'd still be worth watching. If they come up with a new big bad or overarching sub-plot, many more.
@Makem12
@Makem12 Год назад
I had plenty of issues with Korra, but the creators being hamstrung by the network is starting to put things in perspective for me.
@herrikudo
@herrikudo Год назад
They werent hamstrung. They lied out their asses nick bought and paid for the whole series before the first episode even aired. They just dont know how to write anything worth a pile of dogshit. The show would have been shitcanned for ratings being awful if they hadn't already paid for it in advance. And everyone sucks them off as these poor artists fighting against the evil corporate powers
@ezracohen6020
@ezracohen6020 Год назад
I agree, I will forever despise the show but I do recognize that it was given production hell and part of why it suffers is because of that
@BiG-JuPO1O1
@BiG-JuPO1O1 Год назад
@@ezracohen6020 Why despise the show when you should put all that hate into Nickelodeon? Lok wasn't even that bad and I believe it's overhated show. A lot things people nit pick and try make it as if it's some big deal is rediculus.
@ezracohen6020
@ezracohen6020 Год назад
@@BiG-JuPO1O1 There are a lot of reasons I don't like the show, and I'll go through them briefly at a later point in this comment, but I'll start off with the reason I actually despise it and don't just dislike it. (any typos are most likely the result of voice recognition so just point them out and I'll fix them) The Legend of Korra felt to me like it was actively disrespecting the lore and world of Avatar, had it been entirely its own story with no connection to Avatar I would dislike it but I would not hate it. The show starts off on a bad note, Korra being able to bend three of the elements at such a young age was absurd, in the last Avatar it's set up that Aang is younger than other avatars when they went through the process of mastering the elements, and when it was first found out he was the Avatar it wasn't because he was bending multiple elements but because he passed a test and was drawn to items from his past lives. This is a small example that ultimately has no impact on the story, but it's made worse by the fact that it was ultimately unnecessary, the show could have easily just started with her training and using three of the elements sort of like the next scene where she's fighting the firebenders in training. The next thing is the bending styles themselves, they all sort of felt like they were mixed martial arts or boxing and the lost a lot of the uniqueness that they had in the original series, aside from the Red Lotus in season 3 people don't have all that unique of a style, it's the loss of something that made Avatar special. Continuing with bending, lightning bending becoming so common cheapened it. Still in the first season the next issue is with blood bending, they broke all of the rules that it functioned by and turned it into something completely different, being able to be used without a full moon, being able to be used telepathically (the only thing close to bending with little movement in the original is Bumi, so while it could theoretically be possible with everything else the whole thing is just pushing the limits), and the fact that it can permanently take away someone's bending, something we only see the Avatar do with energy bending. Now moving on to the second season we get to spirits, and this is far and away the worst offender. Spirits in avatar are complex, interesting, and inhuman creatures that don't fit into categories of being good or evil as we understand them. In The Legend of Korra they are still strange and inhuman, but in a more colorful and fairy-like way, and now they can be much more easily placed into categories of good or evil with Raava and Vaatu. They are generally good and docile and cute in the show unless they get corrupted by Vaatu, but also can be turned back after being corrupted through Spirit Bending. The spirit world is now much more reminiscent of Alice in Wonderland, and things we see like different Spirits combining into one or Spirit Vines are very different to how they functioned before. All of this would be fine if it wasn't placed in the world of avatar, but when you already have Spirits as one thing and then they become something completely different because you want them to fill a different role without putting in the effort of trying to make them fill that role in a way that still makes sense with what they are then it's just a slap in the face to anyone who cared about the original. And I'm not even done with the spirits yet, because in addition to putting a black and white morality onto Spirits the addition of Raava and Vaatu also made spirits an energy source. Something that leads to the season 2 finale where we have giant people shooting lasers at each other and even into season 4 where we have Spirit Vines harnessed as energy for a death laser, both of which don't fit with the original series. I'm fine with a new series coming up with something new to add to the original or modifying something in a way that makes sense and recontextualizes our understanding of what came before it, but the Legend of Korra didn't do that in these cases, it had ideas and instead of trying to fit them into the world that already existed just put them in and hoped no one would notice the difference. Side note, season 3 is an exception to basically everything I have said and everything I will say, it was genuinely really good. Now as for reasons that I dislike the show, first of all I didn't like the majority of the characters, and I didn't like Republic City as a setting, these are personal things but it made it really difficult for me to watch the show. One thing I especially disliked was characters constantly insisting that Korra had changed or grown when it didn't feel like she actually did, the later seasons are an exception to this but before then every time someone said something about how much she has improved as a person it just felt to me like the show was trying to shove down my throat that she was changing without actually changing her as a character. Another thing is I don't particularly enjoy romance and stories, so I despised how much focus and drama came from the Love Triangle situation, also particularly for the first season I really didn't care all that much about Pro bending so a lot of the time focused on that I didn't enjoy either. I also felt that the show consistently failed to live up to its potential. In the first season we have Amon and a whole Revolution about non-bender inequality, but not enough is done to show that there is non-bender inequality except for the depiction of the response to the equalists. It also entirely ignores the fact that an increase in technology means that in this time period non-benders are closer to being equal to Benders than they ever have been. Also it doesn't make sense that the whole Revolution would fall apart just because its leader was revealed to be a bender, people would still care about the issues even if one person in the movement who was important was revealed to be a hypocrite. In the second season we have an interesting discussion about issues that even the Avatar can't solve, and we actually have Korra side with the wrong people, but then the entirety of that gets derailed by Spirit shenanigans. And in season 4 we have a really interesting antagonist who is through Force uniting the Earth Kingdom again, and our main Heroes are actually split on whether she's right or not at the beginning of it, but by the end it's just a fight with a giant Mech.
@BiG-JuPO1O1
@BiG-JuPO1O1 Год назад
@@ezracohen6020 Korra is gifted on her physical side, water, earth and fire naturally came to her and took her until she age of 12 to master water. By age 17 she mastered fire, earth and around 18 she mastered air. It's the samething to Aang being naturally gifted on his spiritual side at very young age yet that gets a passed. She only knew the basics and that was clear. We seen young Azula and Zuko bend at a very young age around 5 to 10 and yet you're not going complain about that? Not every avatar struggles to bend the elements, because every avatar began differently and each have their own weakness and strengths. Would you complain about Avatar Kyoshi naturally possessing raw power to point giant chunks of earth from the sea floor despite just beginning her training as the avatar? Bending isn't ruined. People in Republic city relies on pro bending that fits the tight and highly dense cities. It's more of precise and fast fighting style to prevent damage to the city and their surroundings. We've seen Korra use traditional bending and look what happened. She caused too much damage and got in trouble. Even flash back we've seen Aang fighting style more tame because he in dense populated area of Republic city. Going back to bending, Iroh explains it within ATLA that bending will continue to evolve and how benders often gain knowledge and similar techniques from other elements to prevent their skills being too rigid and stale. It's more than Red Lotus who remains with traditional bending style. We seen Amon, Tarlock, Tenzin, Lin, Sue, Red Lotus, Eska and Desna, Unalaq, Tonraq and Korra who uses both, all have their own bending style and mainly uses traditional bending. Also people forget that in ATLA they also used boxing styles at times and simple jabs. I'll go no further in explanation as I'm not here to write an essay about it. Just simply saying bending and unique styles still remains in the show. Kuvira for example created her own style of metal bending, that precise, and effective technique where she rag dolls her opponents like they're nothing. Amon blood bending isn't far fetch and neither is psychic bending isn't anything new, when it's proven talented benders can bend with their mind with enough concentration and mastery of their own element. List of people who could, Amon, Tarlock, Yakone, Ming Qua, Toph, and Bumi. Amon was trained at young age and mastered it all at age of 14, which is nothing new when we see people like Aang master air at age 12 and manages to perform large scale feats for person of his age. Azula is the same case to and yet you don't complain about that? Also look at Toph who simply 10 year old mastered throwing giant boulders and performing large scale attacks. Look at Katara who some how manages to blood bend a person who has decades of experience and creator of blood bending and yet she managed to over power her despite being 14 and still training. Book two spirits I don't blame you but neither was it the writers fault. It was due to Nickelodeon demanding three more books out of no where and wanted book two to be released in short period of time. The writers had to start from scratch and create another story and a new villain. Amon was killed off because the writers were done is what they believed to be until Nickelodeon changed that immediately. Spirit world what we've seen is more than just creepy place but a place that can be altered by our feeling and emotions. Iroh easily explains how spirit world can be mysterious and strange place but it's obvious spirit world isn't meant to be creepy place. Spirit world represent spiritual side of the world and how spiritual side of things can appear creepy, strange to light warning place it can all be at once. I'll leave that to your own opinion and taste how spirit world was presented. Book four: Book four is more than the team deciding whether or not Kuvira was right. It's more about Korra journey and character development she actually receives. What I like about Korra is how she shows human side of being the avatar and that part of the point of her story. Giant mech doesn't bother me, because it's literally 70 years after 100 year war. So much can change in short span of time if you compare 1900 to 1970, you'll see two completely different worlds and within those 70 years humans has managed to accomplish so much that brought change to the world and same goes for avatar world. Aang time takes place industrial era/late 1800s to Korra 1920s to 1940s design. Did you complain about giant drill, submarines that can go on land and have caterpillar structure, air ships, tanks that can climb on walls? From here I see your perspective I didn't like change and misunderstanding of the show. The show has it's flaws but does it deserve the hate it receives? Nope the show is still amazing, and better than most cartoons out there. I respect your opinion tho.
@corrinflakes9659
@corrinflakes9659 2 года назад
“Boys thought Korra was very awesome and very buff” I mean she was what awakened my taste in buff women. 😳
@thomasankney4870
@thomasankney4870 Год назад
"Buff" 😆
@sphereyahya
@sphereyahya Год назад
Lol
@sphereyahya
@sphereyahya Год назад
Me too
@mooseradcliffe7336
@mooseradcliffe7336 Год назад
And made some want to become buff women too :v
@mileyho
@mileyho Год назад
Fr
@OfSoundsAndImages
@OfSoundsAndImages 2 года назад
I always used to wonder why Nickelodeon made such weird choices in regards to avatar, but I'm glad BryKe got that deal for avatar studios. Can't wait to see what they create for the Avatar universe, been a fan since 2005! If this channel is Avatar based content, then you've got my sub for sure!
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
First-ever comment, let's go! Yeah, Bryke deserves it for creating such an incredible world. I'm hyped for what they have in store! Since everyone loves the show so much but the comics/novels/production stuff are all kinda hard to keep track of, I figured I could do my best to help show what's most interesting!
@christiancoolade9652
@christiancoolade9652 2 года назад
Nickelodeon did wanted a action adventure cartoon
@nathanblack-foster4006
@nathanblack-foster4006 Год назад
I can’t wait either
@saintjames1995
@saintjames1995 Год назад
I'm honestly hoping they scrap a lot of what happened in Korra
@16ktsgamma
@16ktsgamma Год назад
@@saintjames1995 I mean they gotta keep continuity. Since the second season changed a lot. Avatar Wan's episode in particular.
@schrimply5980
@schrimply5980 Год назад
I'm at the point where Im convinced that Nickelodeon despises Avatar but acknowledges that it's popular and makes them money
@gabrielmutombo7078
@gabrielmutombo7078 2 года назад
The more I think about the production issues that the creators faced I keep thinking about what it would have been like if the shows aired on different channels. Image how crazy would it have been if ATLA and TLOK were on toonami.
@ziel32
@ziel32 Год назад
Imagine it on adult swim
@avatar5023
@avatar5023 Год назад
@@ziel32 I don't want to... It's just to disturbing.
@batpat830
@batpat830 Год назад
@@avatar5023 there would be literal on screen deaths
@avatar5023
@avatar5023 Год назад
@@batpat830 I admit that would be awesome to see. But imagine how many beloved characters would just get killed out of nowhere.
@TheDragonfriday
@TheDragonfriday Год назад
@@avatar5023 dude it take place darning the war... How can they keep kids friendly long enough without anyone dying or see death, blood, people rip in piece etc etc anime is beyond what America cartoon can get because they are not afraid to show it
@heidtb6746
@heidtb6746 Год назад
The "Someone will be making Avatar 10" thing is exactly the reason why big franchises fail so often. Once a story told everything it's designed to tell, everything that follows because "i like money" will have much less quality. In some cases it's as obvious like putting the name of a franchise on a movie or series that has literally nothing to do with the original work anymore.
@Ilsezwarts
@Ilsezwarts Год назад
The sad thing is that Avatar is PERFECT for prequels and sequels with the avatar cycle. But unfortunately Nick wanted to bank on those live action movies, and when those failed they totally disrespected the franchise. I believe a lot of Korras short comings come from Nick just not giving the writers enough room... not all of the shortcomings though, there's a lot of things I respect about Korra and also a lot I dont lol but it notably doesn't have the extremely tight writing that ATLA has, and I think thats bc Nick was too vague about how many episodes they'd get or giving them too many restrictions.
@Forn83
@Forn83 Год назад
Yeah, things like spongebob are milked dry.
@mroversteer3739
@mroversteer3739 Год назад
Boruto is a great example of this
@nayeononce
@nayeononce Год назад
Harry potter fantastic beasts
@biazacha
@biazacha Год назад
@@mroversteer3739 exactly where my mind went, Boruto is probably one the most shameless cash grabs I ever saw.
@I_Dislike_YouTube_Handles
@I_Dislike_YouTube_Handles Год назад
23:06 I’m not gonna lie, I’d rather just purchase the 60$ Blu Ray set of the whole series than pay for a month of Paramount Plus+, in that respect, he’s a mad genius. His plan is so bad that it makes people pay more for less, there is no scenario in which he doesn’t make bank.
@SkylerLinux
@SkylerLinux Год назад
Yo-ho-ho, the High Sea's are calling
@IncendiarySolution
@IncendiarySolution Год назад
@@SkylerLinux And people said sea shanties were a fad.
@bestaround3323
@bestaround3323 Год назад
@IncendiarySolution Piracy is mainly a supply problem, so easy access fixes most of it.
@IncendiarySolution
@IncendiarySolution Год назад
@@bestaround3323 i mean, assuming piracy is a problem
@bestaround3323
@bestaround3323 Год назад
@IncendiarySolution I mean it can be, but it is often blown out of proportion. I am a supporter of it in certain aspects such as textbooks and media that aren't available or accessible.
@acmeanvil3022
@acmeanvil3022 2 года назад
Honestly, Nick still treated the series better than some of their other animated IPs.
@names_are_useless
@names_are_useless Год назад
I remember how dirty they did Invader Zim ... oof.Least the Netflix Movie was decent.
@soondslash
@soondslash Год назад
@@names_are_useless whats invader zim
@acmeanvil3022
@acmeanvil3022 Год назад
@@soondslash You're the first person I've met online that hasn't heard of Invader Zim.
@soondslash
@soondslash Год назад
@@acmeanvil3022 as it turns out the show began over seven years before my birth so uh
@bongosmcdongos4190
@bongosmcdongos4190 Год назад
@@soondslash should've considered being born earlier then
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 5 месяцев назад
Disney buying avatar franchise will be the worse thing ever for our beloved franchise.
@mynameis_ehe8373
@mynameis_ehe8373 Год назад
Bro actually called Marceline the vampire Queen "Madeline"
@getbackinyourtaco
@getbackinyourtaco Год назад
Three cheers for Madeline
@theplayermakes
@theplayermakes Год назад
What are you talking about? Adventure Time's best vampire bisexual? She's ALWAYS been called Madelin? I'm pretty sure anyway😂😂 that's why everyone calls her Marci- uh... Maddie!
@guyplus3053
@guyplus3053 Год назад
Unforgivable
@Brony22
@Brony22 Год назад
I remember watching TLA finale, it was an amazing 2 hours and me and my brother just went crazy over everything that was happening. I also remember watching TLOK during season 3 and was confused when it stopped. but was even more confused when season 4 aired on tv.
@sbatou87
@sbatou87 Год назад
Yeah, Nick really should have advertised the move when the show went to online only.
@tolkienblack
@tolkienblack Год назад
@@sbatou87it really felt like they were trying their hardest to kill it
@BiG-JuPO1O1
@BiG-JuPO1O1 Год назад
@@tolkienblack They was, after how violent book three has gotten.
@lotusworldpeace
@lotusworldpeace Год назад
@@tolkienblack they were trying to kill it, the ratings were extremely low Nick had no reason to let it air over shows other kids would rather enjoy watching
@alexcallender
@alexcallender 6 месяцев назад
TIL LOK season 4 actually did air on TV (well, episode 9 onwards anyway). It was on Nicktoons rather than the main Nickelodeon channel though, which explains why I didn't catch any of it. I thought it exclusively aired online and never even received a broadcast run. I know I and a bunch of others only watched the episodes when they were released online. Even though I don't love Korra the way I love TLA, it still makes me sad how Nick did the series so dirty.
@timothylawrence4234
@timothylawrence4234 2 года назад
Wow, what a super well put together video! You've got a talent for taking information and giving it to the viewer in a way that's easy to understand. Plus, you're talking about Avatar, which is always a plus!
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
:D
@Beij1ngCorn
@Beij1ngCorn 2 года назад
@@BabyLionTurtle :D
@tomispandacuddle
@tomispandacuddle Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle nice alt account bro
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
@@tomispandacuddle My alt account's nowhere near that obvious :P
@omciiioiooo1706
@omciiioiooo1706 Год назад
Well now you know
@AnvilApricot
@AnvilApricot Год назад
The idea that bending wasnt added until 2 weeks of worldbuilding is insane. Like its so core to the setting
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac Год назад
I loved the Avatar Extras, Avatar reruns with pop-up commentary from the creators, especially during the Pro-Wrestling parody episode, once The Boulder comes in, it switches from talking about Toph and the episode as a whole, to gushing about the fact they actually got to work with Mick Foley (originally they wanted The Rock, but the director of the episode remembered that Mick had a really good Rock Impression), and being huge wrestling fans, that was a big 'Mark out' moment for them.
@breawycker
@breawycker Год назад
The scene in "The Drill" where the go underground and it's completely pitch black dark: Sokka: it's so dark down here! I can't see a thing Toph: Oh no! What a nightmare! Sokka: Sorry Avatar Extras: This was the easily scene to animate!
@avatar5023
@avatar5023 Год назад
It would have been worth it to spend the extra money to get the rock to play the boulder! He would have killed in that role!
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac Год назад
@@avatar5023 according to the Extras,The Rock was busy with something else, Mick was originally their as the go-between for Rock and Nickelodeon, the director was the one who came up with the idea to have Mick voice The Boulder.
@avatar5023
@avatar5023 Год назад
@@supersasukemaniac I would have loved it if they had have waited and cast the Rock instead! A lot of people would've payed more to see it to.
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 Год назад
Avatar Extras was great, & I was hoping for Korra Extras. That said I was fine with how The Boulder turned out.
@Ardith_Prime
@Ardith_Prime Год назад
You also forget during LOK they told them each series "you're only getting this one series, suck it" which hurt their ability to create an overarching lot like LOA
@NEWFIExGAMING
@NEWFIExGAMING 5 месяцев назад
Not true. There's an interview with Brian Konietzko where he says that before LoK episode one even aired Nickelodeon payed for all 4 seasons upfront. Nick just asked them to keep each season partially self-contained which they agreed to. Brian also stated that at one point during the production of season 2, the whole crew was working on 30 episodes at a single time. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ytauJfsyCE4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1TYkk6xjM6c.htmlsi=pc9da9QOTdwe-riP&t=1749
@shawncouch2243
@shawncouch2243 2 года назад
"Well...at least it was mostly non-lethal.." Dude, I snorted. Great job, keep it up. I enjoyed the breakdown of the behind the scenes stuff. And now I know who to blame for the movies. "Cyma..." *Said in the same tone as the classic "Dinkleberg"*
@bluesbest1
@bluesbest1 Год назад
"Let me just toss a bunch of armored sailors into arctic water in the winter, and sink their ship while I'm at it. That's definitely not lethal at all." And let's not forget that elemental death can be some of the worst ways to die or get injured. The Earth Queen is one example. Fong burying Katara is another, since all it would take is a little squeeze and she'd suddenly turn into a red geyser. Then there's drowning/freezing, or the myriad of ways fire can hurt, just take a single glance at Zuko.
@joshheralal8758
@joshheralal8758 Год назад
@@bluesbest1 Well, we see armoured soldiers floating in water later in the show
@19billdong96
@19billdong96 Год назад
The Last Airbender was lightening in the bottle, neither the creators, Nick, nor Netflix can recreate it. As controversial as my opinion maybe, the boundaries Nick places on the show probably also helped a lot; the show might’ve never become so creative and philosophical if Nick gave them the green light to just stab and kill ever problem the heroes faced, like most shows today.
@RedMay
@RedMay Год назад
My opinion on Korra was it was a good show but the supporting cast wasn’t as strong as the first shows, and instead people drifted more to the children of their favorite characters, I just always felt like they didn’t flesh the main characters out enough
@quaza009
@quaza009 2 года назад
Just when I was about to look up more of your videos, you said that this was your first one. It is really well made and I can't wait to see more of them in the future!
@calebc.4343
@calebc.4343 Год назад
That moment where Lin’s like “I’m watchin’ U” and Korra mimics her *_WILL ALWAYS_* kill me. Lin’s expression is just like “B•tch go home!” and forever keeps me cackling 🤣🤣🤣
@theveganflower5135
@theveganflower5135 Год назад
ATLA is such a powerhouse. Its animation, its story and charecters are just *chefs kiss* Even a gen x coworker of mine has praised it for how amazing it is. She is someone I'd never think would watch something like atla but the other day I was just mentioning the legend of genji and how it was a fan created sequel to atla/ korra and she went on for a couple minutes just praising the show. I'm so glad people recognize how much of a gem it really is even when they didn't grow up with it.
@merek5380
@merek5380 Год назад
The Last Airbender series had a premodern setting. Each episode took place in a different town, with different peoples, with different customs and different culture. The identities of people were organic and pastoral. The decision to bring Korra into modernity, into a liberal technocratic order, into democratic factionalism, and into modern day metapolitical identity categories all contributed to alienate the Korra series from the vitality that the last air bender had.
@tobiassamuelforrestdohlin9684
lmfao "technocratic" "factionalism" "metapolitical" like actually relax bro. pedant
@merek5380
@merek5380 Год назад
@@tobiassamuelforrestdohlin9684 I mean if you don't know much about technocracy, factionalism or metapolitics then I suppose those would be empty words to you. You probably lack the reading comprehension to catch onto the main point: the original series was obviously pre modern, while the (mistake) Korra made was to bring the setting into modernity and all of the presuppositions that go along with it. It fundamentally changed the world.
@KingZNIN
@KingZNIN Год назад
@@merek5380 well they went from the late 1800s-early 1900 to the mid 1900s-late 1900s what did you expect to happen?
@hunormagyar1843
@hunormagyar1843 Год назад
Probably. The world in ATLA sure felt... idk, more in tune with itself or something, I can't really describe it properly. Like... magic and the "middle ages" really work well together aesthetically, having it in a modern looking world like ours is a bit weird. Guess it's kinda hardwired into our brain that mages "existed" in the age of castles and trebuchets... I mean that's basically what actual people believed in those times and television turned it into "reality". (I'm talking crap but guess ya get my point lol)
@KingZNIN
@KingZNIN Год назад
@@hunormagyar1843 those are the stereo types, and new ones feel like are becoming more common. Harry Potter being a modern fantasy series was making it more common to bad world wise it's mediocre.
@TheGamingSpartanA113
@TheGamingSpartanA113 Год назад
Understanding that Nick mishandled Korra makes so much more sense to me now and I understand why the Korrasami ship came so far out of left field. I still think S2 is hot garbage, but --- semantics.
@johncronin8344
@johncronin8344 Год назад
Bro i did a double take when you said this was your first video, great job!
@spencercummings3027
@spencercummings3027 2 года назад
you did a good job. lwatched the whole video and then at the end when you said it was you first one i was like wait--what?! It's really well-made and professional. you've got a real talent for this, whoever you are.
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words! I love that people are still enjoying this first video. I'm only at video number 9 now, but I think the quality is still getting better with each and every upload :)
@palinanavitskaya6133
@palinanavitskaya6133 Год назад
Right? I am shocked to the CORE!
@iamwhoiam7887
@iamwhoiam7887 Год назад
It's okay.
@elmuchacho3379
@elmuchacho3379 Год назад
I remember having to go on their website to see book 4 of korra. And then halfway through, or maybe it was just the finale, i can't remember, they put it back on the air. The heads at Nick are just so strange in how they handled LOK.
@screwgoogle4993
@screwgoogle4993 Год назад
That's because the creators snuck in their politics under Nick's nose. They admitted they did this. They were trying to be sneaky, because they knew everyone would be creeped out by their attempts at pushing sex propaganda onto people's kids. No, it was not strange. The creators got a big head and did something idiotic. Not to mention this entire paid-for show was not getting shit for views. Gee I wonder why. It's almost like these supposedly infallible creators tossed aside their honest vision for their creepy politics.
@elmuchacho3379
@elmuchacho3379 Год назад
@@screwgoogle4993 even if your ignorant comments were true, that “sex propaganda” scene you’re talking about isn’t even explicit, much less long. The show didn’t perform well because the writing had a very rough start in the first two books and left a poor impression going forward, largely in part because of the “sex propaganda” love triangle.
@gfyGoogle
@gfyGoogle Год назад
@@screwgoogle4993wow dude you’re projecting hard here. There are few things more creepy than a flagrant bigot. “Sex propaganda?” What in the world are you talking about? Let me guess. A lesbian relationship is “propaganda” to you? And yet a straight one wouldn’t be? This IP isn’t for you dude. This series has always been about love and acceptance. Your lack of values goes against the nature of the world of Avatar. Stick to Matt Walsh or whatever POS anti-intellectuals you subscribe to.
@ggwp638BC
@ggwp638BC Год назад
The issue was the ratings. Korra was on a downfall on a episode-by-epsiode basis. With a few exceptions, each new episode did worse than the previous one. And from S2 onwards, that included the finales, which is the equivalent of a red start a 5cm of your face in terms of "red lights". They cut it off from TV because S3 was already paid for, but the viewership hit the 1million mark, equivalent to ATLA premiere, too low for a series expected to be in the 3 to 5 million range - they could just re-run some episodes and get 3 to 4 million from ATLA, or at least throw some random spongebob there and get 2m effortlessly.
@heathersmith4042
@heathersmith4042 Год назад
​@@screwgoogle4993 oh do go on, please explain how a two second shot of korra and asami holding hands is "propaganda". and if you hate the existence of gay people so much, what are you doing here, for a show with multiple canonical gay characters? you're the creep that's not welcome here.
@stanislaviliev6305
@stanislaviliev6305 Год назад
"Non-lethal combat system" The Boulder is confused by your words
@jinclay4354
@jinclay4354 2 года назад
25:28 - If I had a nickel for every time since yesterday that I saw a youtuber's first video essay and which looked and felt absolutely professional, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. Good job.
@jjjjjj2323
@jjjjjj2323 2 года назад
Is that a Phineas and Ferb reference?
@jinclay4354
@jinclay4354 2 года назад
@@jjjjjj2323 Yes. It's from "Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GSnCDMa_ECg.html
@thermologo3451
@thermologo3451 Год назад
The lesbian relationship was still forced and out of nowhere. Having the same boyfriend doesn't turn you into a lesbian couple.
@KnightoSea
@KnightoSea 5 месяцев назад
Yeah dude because that was the only connection the network allowed for Korra and Asami if they were allowed to they would’ve made it happen earlier and less subtle
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx 5 месяцев назад
@@KnightoSea yeah, that doesn't make it any better. Their "relationship" if you can even call it that is paper thin at best.
@magegammer4879
@magegammer4879 Год назад
It still hurts to hear my younger cousin reply back with "blue cat people" every time i say avatar show
@silverdragon7385
@silverdragon7385 Год назад
Gonna have to be honest, too much misinformation began when you talked about Korra. To say Korra was a universally acclaimed series is not true, and especially not from a viewings per episode point of view. While the first book did extremely well, with some episodes' views rivaling those of highly acclaimed AtLA episodes, tLoK took a nose dive from there. Book 2, from a purely finacial point of view, was a wreck, with average views around the worst AtLA episodes, and the viewings only falling from there. This is important to keep in mind, as while AtLA and tLoK are beloved by their repspective fanbases, Nick only considers the financial view. And they poured a lot of money into tLoK, so to have their views fall dramatically instead of going up, well, that's not good. And while this timeline does line up with tLoK being moved to friday evenings, we honestly flat out doesn't know if this was the reason behind the failure. Nich just straight up never told us, and we can only speculate this is the reason. And then, it was moved online, which was honestly just dumb, yeah, you're right on that one. And it was around this time Nich was just trying to squeesh the last money out of tLoK, therefore the budget cuts. From their point of view, the show was dying anyway. Why keep throwing money at it? And then there was Korrasami, which is honestly just a hilarious situation. According to Bryke themselves, the reason for all of half baked clues, wasn't because Nick told them they had to do it that way, like you're claiming, but because it was an unspoken rule at Nick. And when they actually pitched the idea to Nick, they faced absolutely no resistance. That's from Bryke themselves. The Nick executives were never hesistant about it, but Bryke thought they would be, and held back. At least according to Bryke themselves
@TrixyTrixter
@TrixyTrixter Год назад
Interesting.
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 месяцев назад
2:47 Justin Hammer: I'd like the record to reflect that Tenzin survived
@hibikuokudan
@hibikuokudan Год назад
From what I've heard, Korra was renewed on a season by season basis, while Airbender was approved all at once. As a result, it was harder to do an overarching, multi season story with Korra because if it DIDN'T get renewed for another season, they'd leave their fans with a cliffhanger. The creators didn't want to risk doing that to the fans.
@styx15
@styx15 Год назад
It was until the final 2 seasons. That's why 3 and 4 have story lines that carry over. It's a shame they didn't greenlight all 4 seasons, can't imagine how much better Korra would be.
@hibikuokudan
@hibikuokudan Год назад
@@styx15 that makes sense! But yeah, I can only imagine how AMAZING Korra would have been if given proper treatment.
@herrikudo
@herrikudo Год назад
Not at all true. The whole show was greenlit before episode one even premiered.
@whiteasian4990
@whiteasian4990 Год назад
Source? It's widely known it was given season to season treatment
@BiG-JuPO1O1
@BiG-JuPO1O1 Год назад
@@herrikudo Nope it wasn't, Lok was meant to be one season show until Nickelodeon decided to give the writers hell and wanted three more books by a certain time. Book two was messy due to having shorter time to develop an actual story. Book three and four came out later on, so writers at least have some time to do something for book three and four.
@midnightwolfwarrior
@midnightwolfwarrior Год назад
As someone who did not like the legend of korra, and who felt intensely dissatisfied with the direction it took with Avatar, I can only look forward to seeing what happens when the writing team for Avatar isn't being constantly chained to their desks by nonsense mandates.
@ggwp638BC
@ggwp638BC Год назад
To be fair, Bryke had a lot more creative freedom with Korra than ATLA. If you disliked Korra, more creative freedom is the last thing you want for an Avatar sequel.
@Lunkwow
@Lunkwow Год назад
@@ggwp638BC Korra didn't have the same head writer as first series, which probably way many people have issues with Korra.
@orppranator5230
@orppranator5230 Год назад
It wasn’t the nonsense mandates, although that didn’t help. It was the fact that Korra had different, inferior writers.
@segevstormlord3713
@segevstormlord3713 Год назад
My great fear is that they'll double down on the "we're hip to the times, man!" stuff, where they try to engage on social issues via virtue signalling rather than actually telling good stories that may happen to deal with social issues. Good sci-fi that deals with controversial social and political issues starts by showing at least a modicum of understanding of where a society with the exaggerated issues it depicts could come from. In so doing, it at least demonstrates a moderate understanding of "the other side" and why anybody would be on that side. If you're going to persuade people on that side, you MUST show them that you understand - to at least some extent - why they believe as they do. You have to get them to _identify with_ the problematic portions of society that you want them to have some sort of epiphany about. If you can't do that - if all you can do is throw mud at anybody who recognizes what you're doing by saying, "You're just like these evil people for not agreeing with me," you turn off any part of the audience you might have had hope of persuading. The modern version of this is not the good, classic, thoughtful sci-fi. Instead, it's just staking a flag saying, "I am on this side of the issue! Comrades in arms, come to my side and cheer for me as we insult the heathens and wicked devils opposing us!" And it doesn't matter which side of an argument is doing this, it is equally useless except to rally those who already agree with you. This is why old-school "Christian TV" tends to be just as cringe-worthy as Captain Planet. And I fear, in today's climate, Avatar Studios will try to lean into Korra/Asami stuff in order to virtue signal, rather than actually tell a good story with deep themes the way Avatar: The Last Airbender did. Especially since they're starting by "remaking" the original. The original is, hands-down, one of the best pieces of modern fiction, in any medium. I doubt they can top it. It'd be impressive if they could match it. I suspect htey'll fail at both, and lean into virtue signalling to demand fealty and praise that is not earned by the story. I hope I am wrong.
@Konan43316
@Konan43316 Год назад
@@segevstormlord3713 me too. As long as the leave out the woke crap, they can guarantee that i will watch their stuff.
@sumbuddy4088
@sumbuddy4088 Год назад
Dude really focused more on discussing myths about the avatar movie’s casting than talking about how it was overall terribly written. Aside from that, this is a very good video essay.
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
Well every youtube channel and their monther have talked about the bad writing. Wouldn't be very interesting or new lol
@simpson6700
@simpson6700 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle yeah because nobody has eeeever talked about "racism bad"
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx 5 месяцев назад
@@BabyLionTurtle yeah the whole DE&I crap is already forced enough. You don't need to add to it.
@RandomMimikyu
@RandomMimikyu 4 месяца назад
“princess bibble hum and *madelline* ” hurt me on another level
@13AndreFalcao666
@13AndreFalcao666 Год назад
10:58 It's... beyond comprehension that someone would air Avatar at random. It's like... I don't know, it's like whoever took that decision was braindead before their lobotomy and was iliterate before their brain death.
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 Год назад
Agreed while skipping episodes for themed marathons makes sense on occasion, normally you'll want the episodes broadcast in order. This is how things go for most series, the order shouldn't be random even if order doesn't matter because cycling makes it easier for viewers to watch all the episodes. Frustrating when there are episodes that never get shown while a certain group of episodes are frequently broadcast.
@Bananacide
@Bananacide Год назад
For a studio focused on children audience, they seem to make moves that hurt themselves more than a suicidal teenage girl
@KartikayKaul
@KartikayKaul Год назад
I remember watching the LOK episodes in 2014 when season 3 and season 4 were coming out. In season 4 they had cut their budget a lot they had make a filler episode. This was a similar incident during ATLA where the budget cut and deadline thing was even indicated in the dialogue by Sokka. When Sokka says let's overlap our lunch time with Potty breaks.
@kyra7305
@kyra7305 2 года назад
This is a very good first video! I was wondering why no content was made after Korra, so thanks for explaining stuff^^
@Ugly_Scallywagg
@Ugly_Scallywagg 2 года назад
This was your FIRST RU-vid video??? I’m soooo glad I found your channel!!!!
@phz7107
@phz7107 8 месяцев назад
i didnt even know LOK exsisted til years later and i vaguely remember watching ATLA as it premiered and being so fucking into it
@Joeymast99
@Joeymast99 Год назад
This was an excellent excellent video which I saw in the algo, and I was familiar with a lot of these events but some things I was not. The way you put it all together and edited everything, I was truly blown away when you said it was your first video. That’s just remarkable I never usually say something like this but you earned a sub and longtime avatar fan. I can’t imagine how good your newer content is
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
My favorite part about starting this channel is seeing how something I put together a year ago can still have a positive impact on people's lives. Thanks for reminding me of that
@Person_2078
@Person_2078 Год назад
Nick doesn't hate legend of Korra. They're just incompetent. And they don't watch anime.
@WhyitJellyDonut
@WhyitJellyDonut Год назад
Like all corporations(bureaucracies), they bread ass kissing and incompetence.
@sfkeepay
@sfkeepay Год назад
Great job! I learned several things I’d never heard about the Avatar, and your choice of video to accompany your script were often very clever and entertaining. And I know what you mean about how our voices sound to ourselves, but don’t worry, yours is welcoming, clear, and just a bit sexy - all of which work well here.
@fernava7253
@fernava7253 2 года назад
Great video! I think this isn't talked about enough. A few other things (spoiler warning for Book 3 of LoK) 1) The long hiatus between books 1 and 2 of Korra contributed to the show's struggle with ratings moving on, as it lost a good portion of its audience due to this. 2) Nickelodeon first ordering a 12-episode miniseries, then ordering Book 2, and lastly ordering Books 3 and 4. This is the reason why each season has a separate arc and not enough time to flesh out relevant characters (ie. the villains). Also the reason behind the long hiatus in the first place. 3) Episodes 3,4,5 and 6 of Book 3 were wrongly uploaded to mundonick (Nickelodeon's Latin American website) instead of episodes 3,4,5 and 6 of Book 2. This was before the season even started airing in the US. A lot of people watched the leaks when the news broke out, and then didn't watch the episodes when they actually aired, hurting the ratings of Book 3 even more. Also, you guys know what happens in these episodes. Even if the first two episodes of the season weren't leaked, the big surprises such as the new airbenders or Zuko's returns, were pretty much ruined.
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Thanks for point these out! The season 3 and 4 leaks were a giant part of LOK's production troubles, but since they weren't purposely done by nick I didn't include them here. Still notable though!
@Valentaein
@Valentaein 5 месяцев назад
If you watch the documentary Avatar Spirits, you can see that Bryke actually approached the network themselves.
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. Год назад
Every once in awhile, you just need to sit back and take a moment to appreciate how dumb corporate executives are.
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
You're a poet with words lol
@ugxsan
@ugxsan Год назад
Always great to have more quality long-form essay video makers. Enjoyed this video and topic immensely.
@ShadowArtist
@ShadowArtist 5 месяцев назад
Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko are the creators of The Last Airbender not "Nickelodeon" , the network aired the episodes, the animation studio "Nickelodeon Animation Studio" partially animated the episodes and then later a Korean Animation Studio (I can't find the name of it right now) created a lot of the animation for the episodes of season two onwards.
@he4dhuntur
@he4dhuntur Год назад
I can’t believe this was your first video! It's made so well and kept my attention the whole way though
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 Год назад
Damn, man. This is only your first video? You did great! Anyway, I'm glad the creators of this show are finally getting their due.If I remember right, I started watching the show by complete accident in the middle of Book 2 waiting to watch Dragon Ball Z Kai back when Nick aired that and by the time the finally came, Avatar had completely taken priority. You really are something special if you could take priority over Dragon Ball at my age
@ktqt8544
@ktqt8544 Год назад
I remember when LOK went online-only I was nervous for what that meant for the show but was excited for myself as I could finally actually watch the series. I had a computer but we didn’t have cable tv
@NoobsterRBLX
@NoobsterRBLX Год назад
"non-lethal" *proceeds to show Azula striking aang with lighting and literally killing him*
@THE_MZA
@THE_MZA 2 года назад
Did i just hear JESSE MCARTNEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ZUKO! Wtf…
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Ikr!? Makes me think that maybe we aren't on the darkest timeline after all
@LionWithAGun
@LionWithAGun Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle my king id still argue we are.. we got no purpose flour as the protagonists and POC as the genocide nation. the timeline with mcartney at least is offering the same garbage movie but minus the jarring wtf of seeing barley scarred zuko and an iroh that blends into his family... like fr iroh was out of place in that movie. i kept forgetting hes zukos uncle watching it
@robobrain10000
@robobrain10000 Год назад
I was all aboard Korra up until they started doing the love triangle BS. The romance even in the original were the weakest part of the show. No clue why they decided to focus on that instead of the story. When I saw the sad eyes of Bolin and how Korra betrayed him in S1E5, I just gave up on the show from there. I don't know how much I can excuse the failures of Korra on studio interferences when even without that interference the show was garbage. Only good things I can say about Korra are that the animation is gorgeous along with the fight choreography. But the story and themes are fucking horseshit.
@Ichigo90
@Ichigo90 Год назад
“Season 3 is just… *mwah* chef’s kiss.” Um… did… did we… watch the same show?
@mranima748
@mranima748 11 месяцев назад
Yes, you just watched it with a stick up your ass
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx 5 месяцев назад
Yeah unfortunately Korra just sucks in general
@henriquebecker4453
@henriquebecker4453 Год назад
I remember getting pissed by seing Zuko as indian instead of eastern asian when I first saw the movie, they didn't even minded to give him his ponytail.
@yuyulliz
@yuyulliz Год назад
Honestly hearing about all these issues makes me love ATLA and LOK even more, even with all these obstacles and restrictions the creators where still able to create lovable memorable characters and stories. I hope one day they are able to create new content that is more free and expressive as they truly want it to be.
@AarenYASS
@AarenYASS Год назад
Theyre in luck too, cuz all the kids that grew up with this masterpiece are now old enough to have jobs and have their own income, theyre gonna make it rain cuz we sure as hell wanna pass down this beauty to all of the newer generations. -
@schris3
@schris3 Год назад
I was not completely against an Avatar live action movie, but it was quite a premature move, especially considering Nickelodeon was already fully established in the animated films department, they should have released Avatar in that format to test the waters and if the franchise could sail in the film waters.
@williansouza8724
@williansouza8724 2 года назад
well done video, man! some stuff here i actually didn’t know yet, which is surprising!
@sbatou87
@sbatou87 2 года назад
If the move from on-air to online was the reason because of a bigger audience, WHY THE HELL WASN'T THE MOVE ADVERTISED?!
@iamwhoiam7887
@iamwhoiam7887 Год назад
He left this out of the video but the truth is season 3 was pushed out so fast because it had accidentally leaked online and people were watching it there.
@sbatou87
@sbatou87 Год назад
@@iamwhoiam7887 Well, yes, I know why Book 3 came out so fast, by why didn't Nick advertise the move to online only?
@iamwhoiam7887
@iamwhoiam7887 Год назад
@@sbatou87 cuz ur gay
@seid3366
@seid3366 Год назад
The title looked weird at first glance. Like how Nickelodeon failed to ruin the show. So, Nick failed at ruining the show, and made it better? Just something i thought when reading the title at first.
@maddydriscoll1389
@maddydriscoll1389 2 года назад
this was a great video!! the flow of information was so smooth and there were some details that i didnt know so clearly you did great research! i was shocked at the end when i heard this was your first video, keep it up man also i wanna mention that i think you accidentally said ‘’madeline” instead of “marceline” when talking about bubbline haha
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Thanks do much! I'm a Avatar channel so of course I made a goof the singular time I branched out from the franchise lol
@chaoticsilver8442
@chaoticsilver8442 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle I honestly just assumed you were trolling. Though it irritated me way more than it probably should've. Also- If you hadn't watched Adventure time before- watch Adventure time. You won't regret it. It, like avatar, actually explores a lot of deep themes... if not quite to the same extent. Just to summarize a few details, you've got a fairly big character having magic alzheimer's that I won't go into more detail about because spoilers but it does get pretty damn depressing at times because damn, the philosophical implications of cloning, multiple times actually, or even just some one-off episodes that *don't* play into an overarching plot while exploring certain themes. Like, who can forget 'trans-rights cookie committing soup-a-slide'? and no, that is not a joke. Themes of life, death, reincarnation, and cyclicality- don't get me started on Distant Lands... though save that for the end. Adventure time isn't a grand, overarching adventure exploring the horrors of war in quite the same way as ATLA, but, I think you might enjoy it.
@DaWoWzer
@DaWoWzer Год назад
I think Korra's biggest non-addressed issued (like of course the characters and stories kind of suck in general) is moving the world into a Technological era and so far down the timeline, it went from a fantasy show to a steampunk-esque which is a way narrower fanbase than general fantasy.
@screwgoogle4993
@screwgoogle4993 Год назад
I don't know why people focus on the setting as the big flaw. Maybe the metal-bender city was dumb, but IMO the setting was the only thing they did mostly right. It's the main character who was the problem. Varick, Amon, the whole 1920s aesthetic, the competitive bending contests.... lots of neat little ideas in Korra. But Korra was still trash, because they shit it out with no oversight whatsoever. Hence the creators' arrogant little "switcheroo" at the end with Korrasami. Switcheroo because they hid it from Nick, knowing they'd protest. And of course they would. Stop trying to talk to strangers' children about sex. Goddamn creeps. And I'm not even gonna get into the whole Rava vs Vatu thing. What a joke.
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 Год назад
The Roaring 20s Fantasy World made perfect sense seeing as it was set 70 Years after The Last Airbender, a series that took place during an Industrial Revolution with tech that far surpassed the stuff we had during the 1850s. Do you want to pretend the massive airships & giant drill didn't happen? There was nothing wrong with the setting & we can't expect fictional worlds to stand completely still in terms of technological evolution. As for Korra & Asami, I had nothing against their relationship which the show never let us see develop any further than absolute best of friends, although it was disappointing that it only was explored through comics. Legend of Korra was aimed at an older audience than The Last Airbender from the start & again it's not like there's anything wrong with children seeing that same gender attractions exist. Naruto was openly more LGBT on Cartoon Network in 2005 & it isn't like there's anything wrong with a series choosing to grow alongside its audience.
@yelsahblah3270
@yelsahblah3270 Год назад
@@screwgoogle4993 I still cannot believe they gave the Avatar an origin story and then killed the Avatar spirit. That was such a slap on the face to the original shows aesthetic. It's a Buddhist centric world. There is no beginning nor an end, hence why we never see the first avatar nor are they mentioned. Spontaneous airbenders made me want to throw things. Surprise we can travel from pole to pole for the sake of plot convenience. Turning the spirit world into another physical place rather than a metaphysical dimension that was alongside it. There was so much wrong with Korra, not even getting into how terrible she was as a lead. No character development. She started and ended the same egotistical brat. The diet versions of the og cast were cringe. The immediate shipping wars and the drama long before I knew who anyone was. Just yuck. If Aaron Ehasz isn't involved in an Avatar project, I'm not interested. Between Nick and these two idiots, there is no chance of redemption. I'll buy the OG on blu ray and forget Korra exists with ease.
@kballwoof00
@kballwoof00 Год назад
@@screwgoogle4993 Unhinged comment. Get help.
@dorkfish1275
@dorkfish1275 Год назад
I think by this point its gonna really question why benders are even around when we basically have our modern world.
@rainyday9174
@rainyday9174 Год назад
Got to the end of the video and was suprised to hear this was your first. Amazing job, it was so well made.
@GeekMasterGames
@GeekMasterGames 2 года назад
Marceline*, not Madeline. That said, this is a great video. Great work! Subbed.
@JaganKing97
@JaganKing97 Год назад
I always forget Avatar is a Nickelodeon show LOL.
@eeveefennecfox
@eeveefennecfox Год назад
such a fake fan
@Zarolea
@Zarolea Год назад
Nickelodeon also approached Jonan Vasquez, author of Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, which is a comic that is exactly as it sounds. They approached this guy with the mindset, "This man would be great to write a children's show." Invader Zim was one of its most popular series, but they heavily censored Mr. Vasquez.
@Kyoshin116
@Kyoshin116 5 месяцев назад
That was your first RU-vid video!!! Omg!! I wish I found this sooner
@aaronl4935
@aaronl4935 2 года назад
nice vid. Lets hope avatar studios isnt plagued with all these problems
@Mirokuofnite
@Mirokuofnite Год назад
Nick has always been pretty shit with their series. Back in the 90s it was basically "All shows get 3 seasons and that's it." unless it was Rugrats and a few other exceptions. Then they struck gold with Spongebob and figured that's all they ever have to show/promote.
@SuperNova-nl5eb
@SuperNova-nl5eb Год назад
21:26 y'know. I always found the shipping of PB and Marceline a bit weird, because PB was calling Marceline slurs and was really hateful towards she in earlier episodes
@onthefridge-w7p
@onthefridge-w7p 5 месяцев назад
When did PB call her slurs? And they were exes, that’s why they were mean to each other
@danielpaladinthesage78bail11
Korra had a serious downfall, I ain't gonna lie though.
@jamiemiller1482
@jamiemiller1482 Год назад
You know, I’m starting to think the executives just hated Korra and tried to do everything they could to kill the show
@leightontreharne9134
@leightontreharne9134 Год назад
Ayo wtf. Just got to the end to realise this was your first video. This is so well made. Congrats Man
@yoyoloyoyoyo9613
@yoyoloyoyoyo9613 2 года назад
so what’s up with the live action that was planned for netflix? last i heard the original creators were not attached to the project anymore. great video btw! i loved seeing how everything pieces together
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
I imagine that the contract for the live-action series was part of the original licensing deal that brought ATLA back to Netflix in 2020. And then once Viacom saw how popular the show still was they decided to greenlight Avatar Studios. But since they can't break the existing contract with Netflix, the live-action show is still happening too. It's mostly speculation, but I might make a video expanding on why I think this.
@Sinewmire
@Sinewmire Год назад
A lot of casting news was released relatively recently. It's still early days.
@gfyGoogle
@gfyGoogle Год назад
@@Sinewmireyou couldn’t be more wrong. The show is done being made. A trailer is almost certain to arrive in a matter of weeks.
@Sinewmire
@Sinewmire Год назад
@@gfyGoogle OK.
@olived9560
@olived9560 5 месяцев назад
That was your first ever RU-vid video??? It was so good!
@97dusk
@97dusk Год назад
Thank you for explaining everything that went wrong with Korra. I'm not saying Korra was perfect, but Nick was a *huge* reason why Korra had so many struggles.
@hamiltonhardy289
@hamiltonhardy289 Год назад
Small pet peeve. AVATAR WAS ON NETFLIX BEFORE 2020! Back in the days when Netflix sent DVD's, Avatar was available in the US for streaming and for delivery. I don't know the exact year it was removed but I don't where this huge conversation got started that it just got on streaming in 2020. UGH
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle Год назад
Well, it definitely came back to streaming after several years of being unavailable, which is why the return was so huge
@hamiltonhardy289
@hamiltonhardy289 Год назад
@@BabyLionTurtle I agree I just often here many assertions that it had JUST come to Netflix which was definitly false.
@alwaysbeyou3047
@alwaysbeyou3047 Год назад
nick is the definition of fixing something that ain't broken
@AndyyWithAY
@AndyyWithAY Год назад
This was your first video?! That was frikkin amazing. I'm glad Bryke are getting their do. Networks need to go back to basics. It's almost like people knew what they were doing in the 90s and early 00s. That was one of the last golden ages of animated content. Doesn't feel like it's been nearly 18 yrs at all
@olafur9
@olafur9 2 года назад
Great first video mate, not often you end up watching almost half an hour of someones first video. But you gained 1 sub at least!
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Love to hear it! It was supposed to be ~12min but thanks got out of hand haha
@pengting8857
@pengting8857 Год назад
my dumbass didnt even know korra and asami were supposed to be gay until reading after the show 💀
@markcastro2036
@markcastro2036 Год назад
I watched LoK for the first time on Netflix and was so underwhelmed... Like for me, the show was one big meh. I don't think Nick's interference was the sole reason it failed, but damn, they could have shown more support to Mike and Bryan
@tlightsylvan
@tlightsylvan 5 месяцев назад
Cling Shyamalan up and coming at the tie he directed Avatar is WILD. Dude hit the scene in the early 90s.
@inspiteofshame
@inspiteofshame 2 года назад
Your voice is fine man! :) You sound like you have multiple cultural influences on your speech, it's unique and interesting. Also, you'll get used to your own voice with time! Thanks for the great video. I adore Avatar and didn't even notice that it boomed in 2020, lol.
@BabyLionTurtle
@BabyLionTurtle 2 года назад
Thanks for the reassurance! And glad my video taught you something!
@shaysela6989
@shaysela6989 Год назад
The biggest surprise in this video is learning it was your first. This is such a high quality video essay!
@nicholasmorgan7609
@nicholasmorgan7609 Год назад
Nickelodeon then succeeded when they made the legend of korra, killing the mystery of avatar with the story of the first avatar. Then there was her cutting off the past lives of the avatars, making sure the next avatar had only her
@dionjones6300
@dionjones6300 Год назад
Those are issues for the very loud members of the fandom. It's not my favorite plot point, but book 2 made room for book 3 which allowed the air nation to come back.
@screwgoogle4993
@screwgoogle4993 Год назад
@@dionjones6300 They're loud because they cared about the world. You don't, which is why you accept the slop that was Korra.
@tezz2698
@tezz2698 Год назад
@@screwgoogle4993 Cared about the world by not wanting to know more about it?
@DavidRay39
@DavidRay39 Год назад
Legend of Korra doesn't hold water with the original. I stopped watching it after Season 2, because it was literally the same story every time. Korra faces a threat; she tries (and failed at least once) to stop them. Only with others' help was the villain(s) stopped. The same thing thing could be said for the original, but that was done much better. As for "Korrasami", I never thought much of it, even though it came from nowhere. I don't really care that they did it. People can do what they want, though some could make an argument that it shouldn't be put in a cartoon meant for kids.
@Miltypooh2001
@Miltypooh2001 Год назад
I don't know why but seeing each nation in avatar have their own culture, environment and beliefs was great but then legend of Korra takes it away and now you see the world becoming more modernized with people with new bending abilities
@hansdykstra3869
@hansdykstra3869 4 месяца назад
that punch with the two fire blasts paralleling the two dragon would have worked so well. It came right after we see Azula breathing frantically and Zuko takes that deep breath which the dragon fire would have done amazing to amplify that change. It would also motivate Azula becoming more aggressive and charging Zuko. Seeing the dragon fire would tell her she has already lost and she would be aggressive and grasping at anything trying to win.
@Spartan322
@Spartan322 Год назад
Korra was pretty trash, only the first season had anything remotely interesting, and that "remotely interesting" does not compensate for all the stupid toxic (for is an extremely toxic, selfish, and unlikable character) will they/won't they drama bullcrap that fill 80% of the character narrative. Korra has always been a whiny piece of crap, she was never the popular part of the show. Even more none of the other characters were actually given any real character arcs, they functionally act like plot devices. Not to mention Korra makes way too many stupid retcons of the original series, the whole violation of the original design of the Spirit World was especially annoying and retconning the Avatar to be some karmaic system that makes no sense was dumb and completely nonsense.
@thebatfan4
@thebatfan4 Год назад
This was a show I never payed much attention to when it first came out and never cared much when people would recommend it until lockdown then I couldn't get enough of it. "Leaves from the vine, falling so slow" uncle Iroh is the best character for me.
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