This is one of the rare interviews where I see Dr Greger look and behave in such a relaxed and (for him) chilled out manner. Thank you for making such an informative and thoroughly enjoyable interview!
I know what you mean. I saw I video with Gregor once he on a treadmill making a video and you couldn’t even understand him he was almost unintelligible. Maybe he ate a steak before the interview.
He does admit his ADHD makes him talk fast, but YES, in his videos with all the BUSY charts and graphs are brain-crazy-making. And he also OVERwrites, so I have found excellent summaries of his books online.
Hi Chris! Nobody has commented about the brisk pace that both Dr Greger and your lovely wife are moving. And keeping up a conversation, neither out of breath. Powered by plants!
You lucky 🐕! I’ve been dying to get my little paws on “How Not To Age”, can’t wait till it hits the shelves!!!! Loved, loved, loved the team approach you used in interviewing the good Dr. Toni, I’m totally jelly! Us fan girls stick together❤ Chris, know you’re appreciated for the work you do.
@@Channel23-Awen wrong look at his real picture in X. He has a ton of wrinkles(crows feet) already. He is not only thin but he has a big stomach. I have a 53 Yr old friend who also wrote a book about aging and he looks way way more healthy, younger looking and buff than Dr. Greger.
This was quite interesting, although mechanism may or may not lead to certain outcomes, your wife walking at such a fast pace while interviewing is an outcome worthy of praise. Amazing pace, health and vitality!
I've been watching your videos for some time now and it is always a joy. Interesting and engaging. Especially with guests like Dr. Greger. I just wanted to say thank you for doing this. Greetings from Denmark 🌱
I pre purchased the audio book - looking forward to hours of listening while I'm running. in 2019 my primary care doctor said "You're an obese, fat f*** and need to lose some weight" - he threw "How not to die" at me ... I took it home, went #WFPB cold turkey, lost 70lb, ldl cholesterol went from 190 to 70, bp dropped by 30 points. I'm getting excited .. just 5 days left til it hits my iPhone. Im reasonably sure I know most of the content but part of longevity/#WFPB books and podcasts (for me) is reinforcement .. keeps me on the straight and narrow..
@@PlantChompers what funny is that he (the doc) has kept his old unhealthy habits … he constantly asks me about being WFPB yet .. he’s overweight and unhealthy. I often wonder if he didn’t just want to get rid of the book and I happened to be the random recipient. Sorry to hear about your stroke .. I had one 27 years ago … carotid dissection … sucked for quite a few months but recovered quickly .
this video is also so wholesome! Super approval from me on the heart glasses :D. Also impressed with how you managed to film backwards so long during the walking interview
Glad you pointed out how people like Peter Attia keep dancing around the diet question, neither endorsing nor refuting a particular dietary lifestyle. And yet, they are flagrantly dismissive of epidemiological studies. Thanks for the great content as always!
You've got the right words with dancing around the diet question, really believe he doesn't want to alienate his animal eating viewers. He wouldn't start a video talking about the fresh venison he just killed and ate.
I kind of feel like we are in this new health popularity contest, where the doctors can let the popularity get to them and just very clearly avoid controversy to keep getting clicks. Just listened to a Huberman/Sinclair episode from last year. It was all dancing around "unpopular" concepts like eating plants instead of steak, or just taking a pill for your high cholesterol or diabetes. I ended up kind of frustrated with it and don't think I'll listen to huberman again
@panes840 I'm paraphrasing but he said, "my cholesterol is kind of high, but I'm trying to get it down without reducing my red meat and eggs consumption" Like dude, you obviously know what is causing your high cholesterol, how about you make meat, dairy, and eggs not 50%+ of your diet? Dr. Sinclair would say "I'm mostly vegetarian, but I never tell people what to do or give advice, I can just tell you what I do..." You mean go mostly vegetarian because of the data shows the Blue Zones were all roughly 95% plant based dieters? Let's not go the extra step that would actually support more plants in your diet, which would be nice for the Animals and us Vegans. So I walked away being able to read between the lines on some stuff, but I feel Huberman the bros that listen every time will be like "yeah, hahaha, we don't need to lower our meat intake to drop our cholesterol"
My husband and I started this late yesterday evening, and made it half way through. We will finish it this evening. We are fans and followers of Dr. Greger. I was disheartened though to hear it is aimed at 50ish folks. I'm already in my 70s and my husband nearly there. What about those of use who have already aged? There are a lot of us out here. I don't want to get younger, but this book was not available when I was 50. We have been vegan for 12 years vegetarian longer than that, and still aged. I have eaten lots of plants and whole foods since childhood (growing up in SoCal where fruits and veggies are plentiful made that a dream), but I also played outside a LOT. So, did the sun just zap me as a child and there is no hope? I hope the book addresses all age ranges and doesn't just leave us out.
I think she means she looks 70 on the outside. Bryan Johnson, the multi-millionaire is pursuing and promoting a “Don’t Die” diet to have younger organs, but he is also doing a lot of external treatments such as red light therapy to look younger, too.
I discovered Dr. Greger and his NGO thanks to this video and I'm really happy I did, although I've been vegetarian (mostly vegan) my entire life. I'm halfway through the book How not to die. I immensely appreciate the decision to include the actual references and the amount of work it took to put this literally epic volume together. As a scientist myself, I really do appreciate it, and I went into some of the studies. I also understood that the book should be read in the context of his NGO focused on nutrition. However, I have two big qualms with the book. One, maybe because of its title, which is not "How to eat to not die" but just how not to die period. The importance of other essential lifestyle factors like sleep, exercise, stress is barely mentioned in the book. I know it's not his jazz but he is clearly aware that there's a lot of science about those too. The second one, and closer to his own context, so far the importance of sugar (which is vegan lol, heck coke is vegan) is not stressed at all in the book. You can load up on vegan cookies and wonder why you are not getting the benefits of a vegan diet. I know for a fact that many vegans especially in North America eat super unhealthy. I was shocked to discover that I, myself coming from the Mediterranean, had nothing in common with them food-wise when I went to gatherings, festivals etc. Vegan food can also be highly processed, high in junk fats, high in sugar, deep fried, etc. (Heck, chips is vegan, and what about the vegan cashew cheese that has coconut oil as first ingredient? It seems less healthy than regular cheese). Those people ate 90% junk thinking they're doing fine in the food department. I know that he book stresses plant based on every page and I know what it means, real, whole foods, but I can also see how someone like the people I met would still not get the message and think they're eating healthy. 😢 I also have two more minor issues with the book, why he denounces olive oil and why all dairy is lumped together in the discussion. He spends a lot of time talking about different types of meat but so far none in discerning different types of dairy, and for example even within cheeses there are huge differences. There are protected cheeses from the Mediterranean that are still produced by the traditional methods today. People from the Mediterranean are known for their yoghurt, feta, parmigiano, and many other fermented dairy eaten for thousands of years. I have the uneasy suspicion that the omission is dogmatic rather than evidence based. Finally, I know how my great-grandparents and grandparents lived and they ate meat. We had goats and sheep and we were sent to shepherd them during the day. They have nothing to do with the meat in the store today. I think an important detail missing from the discussion is how meat has changed with industry. But one can argue that about fruit and vegetables too (just look at big corn, peanut, almond, and potato). They taste nothing like those on our farm. And "organic" ones don't cut it either. So it's not yet clear to me that the problem is meat as a category versus rather the toxic industrialisation process.
Thank you. I hate doing that but it feels like everyone needs to know. Peter Attia is particularly difficult because, aside from diet, he has some good things to say.
@@PlantChompersThank you for this interview. When I first saw a video of his, I just assumed that he was a vegan hoping to cash in on the RU-vid excitement by parroting other people's work. I'm so pleased to see that I was wrong. Also, thank you for letting Toni join in on the interview. It's nice to get to know the other people in the room. She asked questions that have been nagging me for some time [e.g.: spinach]. I didn't see her comment her, even after much scrolling the comment section. Would you thank her, please?
Been a long time fan of Dr Greger and the NF videos - they're great! New to you Plant Chompers, but loving the content and the delivery, calling out the quacks. Love that Dr. G has 5 rescue dogs. Thanks Chris and Tony.
It could be Dr Greger or it could be @plantchompers and wife's interview style, but often upon watching an interview its very easy to imagine you've saved yourself the bother of reading the book BUT not in this case, it provokes me to get the book, and maybe find that two-volume version in translation(?) AND the the 10 hour 'how to read a science paper'. So thank you thank you thank you.
Hi Chris. I’ve followed dr. Greger since how not to die came out and have all books he’s written since. As I have said before you are a hero to me so please take this suggestion with all the respect I have for you and your work. It’s a general comment but this episode included a clip right at the end that’s an example. The comment Christopher Gardner, who I respect, made and I’ve seen him say it before was, stop obsessing about protein. You don’t need more protein! From all I’ve read this is absolutely true in healthy people or even unhealthy people that don’t have a medical condition that hinders protein absorption. I’m not going to put TMI in a public post other than to say I have one of those conditions and it is super important to follow your doctor’s directions. If you have questions I’m pretty easy to find. Can’t wait to see what’s coming next from Plant Chompers! Cheers.
You say healthy people do not need more protein, than I assume the RDA, well here is your science of a current variety to refute that statement...under stress of exercise and/or diet to build or maintain muscle mass more than the RDA is indeed warranted. This meta analysis is the product of the study of roughly 700,000 people under study in total. This is made even more significant coupled with existing study substantiating the increased need in the elderly population. " Protein Intake Greater than the RDA Differentially Influences Whole-Body Lean Mass Responses to Purposeful Catabolic and Anabolic Stressors: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis Joshua L Hudson Yu Wang Robert E Bergia III Wayne W Campbell Under stressful conditions such as energy restriction (ER) and physical activity, the RDA for protein of 0.8 g · kg−1 · d−1 may no longer be an appropriate recommendation. Under catabolic or anabolic conditions, higher protein intakes are proposed to attenuate the loss or increase the gain of whole-body lean mass, respectively. No known published meta-analysis compares protein intakes greater than the RDA with intakes at the RDA. Therefore, we conducted a systematic review and meta-analysis to assess the effects of protein intakes greater than the RDA, compared with at the RDA, on changes in whole-body lean mass. Three researchers independently screened 1520 articles published through August 2018 using the PubMed, Scopus, CINAHL, and Cochrane databases, with additional articles identified in published systematic review articles. Randomized, controlled, parallel studies ≥6 wk long with apparently healthy adults (≥19 y) were eligible for inclusion. Data from 18 studies resulting in 22 comparisons of lean mass changes were included in the final overall analysis. Among all comparisons, protein intakes greater than the RDA benefitted changes in lean mass relative to consuming the RDA [weighted mean difference (95% CI): 0.32 (0.01, 0.64) kg, n = 22"
As to qualification of the study it is peer reviewed and is pub med published, to include in science direct oxford and about 6 or more others. Meaning it is completely vetted and valid and not at all a obscure one off study. Studies that encompass 700,000 peoples rarely are. 2020 publication date however. If a source of protein recommendation are things such as the book fataholic published 8 years ago....... you simply are not up to date. This is the first meta-analysis to examine the results of protein consumption under stress in excess of the RDA. Exercise or weight loss is the key(to define stress). If you are not under such stressors, you will see no benefit. Suffice it to say however, currently exercise is recommended by every expert in the field of longevity as a assist to a long life, so all should be. If it is impossible to exercise due to disability, consult with your doc first, but a sauna or hot tub may serve as a auxiliary, which provides if engaged for 30 each day a similar effect physiologically to light aerobic activity, like a mild paced walk. Many YMCAS in city areas will accommodate the disabled to participate in such activity. But to repeat consult with you medical doc first. Particular medical conditions treatment by this suggestion of information is not intended. Read the study it is found open access. Published even in europe on a open access platform.
@@ronhumphreys3762 seems above my pay grade. I’ll let you take that up with someone else. I’m not the right guy. My comment was a suggestion to plant Chompers. That’s all. I do appreciate someone actually bringing citations though.
Book reference proteinaholic sorry ;) Published 8 years ago, a reasonable summation, is the science identified to support its conclusions are ten or more years dated. In nutritional circles such materials in the specific of protein metabolism and assimilations particularly among elderly populations, is just no longer relevant. Like a ten year old apple phone perhaps in comparison is no longer relevant to things currently.
Dr. Michael Greger started my plantbased journey with his book "how not to die" that got me into the reality of animal welfare and having more arguments to eat plant based. Love to see him on your channel!
I enjoyed this interview more than I can express, as a long-time fan of Doc G (although perhaps not as much a fan as your lovely wife!), and heard so many things I didn't know about in your conversations with him. Better buy the book, I guess : ) Thanks for posting!
37:00 Ok, I've suffered enough. Telling people that a low carb/ketogenic lifestyle will worsen Alzheimers is medically negligent. Greger's line of books should be called : _" Dotage! How to make Grandpa Sarcopenic, Demented, and Dead!_ "
It is far from definitive, but as this Uk Pub med published meta analysis study,states, the prospective of using keto or elements within it to treat Alzheimer's is promising. Most of the studies as of yet simply do not have enough participants, as their major deficit. "To Keto or Not to Keto? A Systematic Review of Randomized Controlled Trials Assessing the Effects of Ketogenic Therapy on Alzheimer Disease Maria G Grammatikopoulou 1, Dimitrios G Goulis 2, Konstantinos Gkiouras 1, Xenophon Theodoridis 1, Kalliopi K Gkouskou 3, Athanasios Evangeliou 4, Efthimis Dardiotis 5, Dimitrios P Bogdanos 1 6 PMID: 32597927 PMCID: PMC7666893 DOI: 10.1093/advances/nmaa073 This is by some theory related to the tendency of the keto diet to enhance the particulars of Mylin protective sheathing and/or possibly reducing the molecular glycemic effects on reduction of neurotransmissions as evidenced in relations to keto effects upon MS.. Keto seems to exhibit a neruo protective result, but exactly why is somewhat up for debate.
Some peoples like Jordan Peterson and his daughter find vegan diets simply impossible for them and suffer severe depression when on them. Remedied by carnivore which is by design a keto type diet. That's not to say all need to be on keto or carnivore. Obviously most all function quite nicely cognitively on a vegan diet but perhaps some do benefit by ketogenetic diets to remedy depression and some cognitive disorders. Alzheimer's being researched as one. This again is not to state one should go keto or carnivore as a preventative measure, this is all in relationship to treating already present disease processes not for prevention. Such as simple carbohydrate restriction being necessary for pre and active diabetics, but not necessary for those of normal body weight and no diabetes. We tend to confuse the two, prevention and treatment, can be entirely two different animals, for consideration. Monitoring glucose for those not pre or diabetic or with close family history, a complete waste of time, So may be being on keto for a preventative of Alzheimer's. AS of the present no published peer reviewed study for preventing A, has been done with conclusive results for keto,. Only treatment of existing conditions. In which there appears promise. Keto can be done as vegan but it requires a bit of work. Meat is not a essential part of keto though as means it is easiest.
I had a blood clot stroke linked to a PFO last year when I was 43. Is there any information that supports being plant based as a way to prevent future strokes? I’m only taking baby aspirin daily. I dropped my cholesterol 20% by being mostly plant based. But now I’m reading that being vegan can cause haemorrhagic strokes?
I'm very sorry to hear that. My stroke was also related to blood clots in my brain. Did they suggest you close the PFO? My cardiologists said I have two choices - close it or take a blood thinner for life. Maybe I should do an episode about this.
@@PlantChompers Hi Chris, it’s me who sent you a message on Instagram. 👋🏻 They put me on blood thinners and still wanted to close the PFO and keep me on thinners. They were pushing very hard for closure even though the hole was tiny and they saw only a few bubbles on the bubble echo. I refused the surgery as the risks were too high for further complications like Afib or the device migrating into the lungs. I’m fine on Aspirin, but always living in fear of my blood being too thin and risking haemorrhage. Or not thin enough risking stroke. It’s a scary line that I feel I walk each day.
41:50 Methionine: fascinating. Methionine just happens to be the amino acid I get the least of. I didn't plan it, I didn't try. That's just how it turns out.
This was great. That book is next on my list. I’m curious, though. You mentioned a stroke and heart scarring. Are you eating in a specific way to deal with those issues? Other than “whole food plant based”. Specific foods?
Just finished watching a whole episode, outstanding job! I was, however, curious why he didn’t mention the negative effects of adding bananas to a smoothie. I saw I recent video of his on that very topic. Not sure when this was filmed.
I just discovered you channel last night (forgive me) because the RU-vid algorithm has discovered that I have discovered Peter Attia's "Outlive" and was watching some reviews. OMG. Your review! That lead me to this video. OMG to the second power! Finally. Evidence based anything when it comes to diet. Hallelujah. OK. OK. I'm sold on Dr. Michael Greger, and I need not waste any more time. Which all leads me to this: Where do I start? I'll read all three of his books, but which one first and then second? Let's assume I know nothing about diet and nutrition (because everything I've read contradicts everything else I've read - which is why I had a protein shake and eggs and meat for breakfast today). If you wanted someone who knew nothing about proper diet and nutrition and wanted them to get as much benefit soonest, which would you recommend? (Or might it be something from a different author?) I humbly await. Sincerely, A new fan.
If you could give me some advice: What do you think about protein intake in younger peoples when they're trying to build muscle mass? Is this a healthy goal? Should I not be adding any protein in my diet even though I want to get bigger? Very interested to hear your thoughts, and thanks for an amazing video
You know, my friend Simon Hill is young, muscle-bound, a dietician to elite athletes and has a great podcast (TheProof). I feel like he could give a more authoritative answer than I can.
Really enjoyed your wife being able to interview Michael Gregor. She did great keeping up with him and asking her intelligent questions. Really impressed. Enjoyable interview!! By the way I use to be a big fan of Peter Attia but was very disappointed about his views on diet and nutrition. I follow Valter Longo now and feel he says what he thinks and has research to back it up. @@PlantChompers
I would challenge the claim that the omega-3 fatty acids have no impact on cardiovascular health this is simply incorrect. Purified ethyl ester EPA (vascepa)at 4 g a day is an FDA approved drug to lower triglyceride and decrease other cardiovascular risk factors Significantly reduced the risk of MI, stroke, and CV death.
Decline in cognitive function on a high fat keto diet? From personal experience, I actually felt a lot sharper on keto, had less fatigue and was more productive at work. Very curious...
the problem is that fat causing cognitive deficits is based on research on people who are metabolically unhealthy so research is flawed in indicating fat is responsible. Problem isn't carb. or fat, per se, but it is how each of these are produced, how you cook them, and how you eat them. I'm coining the term FAT SENSITIVE (Copyrighted by me). Like you can be "carb/insulin sensitive" you can make your body FAT SENSITIVE. There is a role for vegetables, fruits, fish/meat in our diet- we have to just find the healthy balance.
Agreed. I like exercise and have at least one hobby I pursue avidly. I love my family and enjoy spending time with them, but part of that time involves a large sausage and onion pizza once a week.
Loved to see the rescue dogs. I am always curious, because I don't see anyone talking about it, but what do Dr Greger and all the other plant based people feed their dogs?
I have upped my protein intake, as I was told my lower intake was responsible for thinning hair. Many people I respect in the nutrition world do suggest protein levels of 1.2 per kg - m once again on the fence.
Yeah, the thing about chicken is that the breeds that are grown for meat all have the chicken version of the Prader-Willi syndrome : they cant stop eating if there is food available. Then once these chooks are dead and processed they are injected with brine AND SOY PROTEIN. The soy is to get the total protein back up as the fat content is so high (and it means it weighs more and you can make more $$). I used to work in a chicken factory for 3 years. I dont eat chicken more than once every 18 months or so these days🤦
Exercise, lose weight, eat whole food. Do not eat ultra processed, industrial factory man made fast food. Live the basics. No extremes. Avoid white flour, white sugar, white rice, at natural whole food. Simple, easy, basics. Not complicated.
@@farewelltome. why cut out white rice? Very high in Carbohydrates. The Jack Goldman comment is a good start. I personally don't eat a Vegan diet or his diet. I'm Carnivore
@@farewelltome. The processed foods spike blood sugar because they digest too fast damaging organs and blood vessels. I never knew this. Now I have type two diabetes and have to eliminate most starches and sugars that spike blood sugar and damage organs and blood vessels.
Chris - are you going to do a deep dive into Peter Attia's book? That would be so helpful. His points about sarcopenia are valid. I had to be on bed rest for 2 weeks and was shocked at the muscle loss I experienced. BUT...all his emphasis on protein to extend life as well as the need to do intense training to boost VO2 max...while I was reading all I could think was "Hmmm, well that is not what the Okinawans are doing..." It would be really good to hear your take on his book.
He does have a lot of good things to say, so his book is challenging to review. But he is not a longevity researcher and just completely blows longevity researchers off on several topics. I just don't understand why. I don't think it's profit motive. Dr. Greger isn't a longevity researcher either, but he listens very carefully to them and is willing to change his position as he understands more.
Attia has struck me as a really curious and interestingly problematic public figure in the "health space". Like you stated, he has a lot of good things to say. But he's seems to have adopted almost a, "throw my hands up" stance regarding nutritional science. Apart from a strong view on protein requirements and some basic ideas which everyone seems to share (eat unprocessed food, not too much, etc.), he seems to look upon much of the nutritional research and evidence as still being far too unsettled to trust yet. So he concentrates the vast majority of his own personal efforts and outward communications regarding the physical activity aspects of health, with lesser nods to getting enough sleep and reducing stress. But exercise is what he views as being the most important factor. Or at least, the most evidence-based. I have an armchair pop-psych theory about why he might discount much of the nutritional evidence, but I'll keep that to myself as it can only be a speculation at this point. @@PlantChompers
@@HidingFromFate One thing to understand about Attia is that he is OCD when it comes to exercise. He has become negative about water fasts for the simple reason that he refuses to do only light moderate exercise like walking instead of his usual full workouts during fasts even though the studies show that moderate mild exercise is optimal for muscle tissue retention.
Ya, and the farmer carries? Man, how people who ever reached 100 were able to do those strength protocols. I know my wife’s grandmother who lived to 104 couldn’t do it, not even close.
I’m so glad you shared your feelings about David Sinclair and Dr Attia. I struggled with Sinclair’s book and also wasn’t surprised to find that he is a controversial figure. Thank you for the video! Great work 👍
@@walterski8377Sinclair now has a pill to reverse aging. Is this pill being check by the authorities, or will they allow people to swallow this pill and die after
@@ronhumphreys3762 Have a look at Chris’s response to the 19 Jetta comment, particularly about longevity and high protein in the long term. Then have a look at the Red Pen reviews (as mentioned IN the video).
I'm nine years in on WFPB at 70 since obtaining How Not to Die, was super healthy before and continue to be even more so. The hardest part of a long healthy life, I'm learning, is saying goodbye to those we've loved.
@@kennethjones6045 We take B12 (so should you). So, what are those 100 other nutrients we're missing? Just curious. (From another vibrant septuagenarian on no meds.)
@@berrymanter1191 see doctor Ken Berry or Doctor Anthony Chaffe about deficiencies of a vegan diet. I get all of the B12 in need naturally from meat and eggs. Vegans are sadly miss informed. My climbing partner of over 25 years is in serious deficiencies from the plant based diet. He's changed his diet. The people on this site are either miss informed or are full of it or both.
This is the interview I have hoped for and dreamed about! Thank you for this early Christmas present. I'll be sharing with as many people as I can. My one point of contention is that I think its my wife who is Dr Greger's biggest fan. We can agree to disagree on that. Keep up the wonderful work!
I love Dr. Greger. He is changing and saving lives, by educating health care professionals and the public about the health benefits of eating whole food plant based nutrition. He shares his knowledge and I am so grateful for him.
Just found you today. I am an 82 year old woman, and very healthy but just learned I may have a heart problem. Otherwise, great. I have given birth to 11 healthy children and breastfed them all. My doctor said that's why my bones are strong. But, today, I need to do better with the suggestions you gave us.
Incredibly interesting episode! I say that to almost every one of your episodes, but in this one having two incredible scientists in one video! It was an amazing treat ☺️ Thank you
I am sorry but neither chris nor dr greger are scientists in the fields of nutrition or protein synthesis. Chris I think he has credentials in physics and Dr Greger is a medical doc.
❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you so much for this interview! Just pre-ordered the book. I'm a fan-girl of Dr. Greger, too and so love his previous books. I always learn so much and love to geek out on the science.
Has to stop this video 15 mins in. I just wanted to say how absolutely thrilled I am to come across this video, and having many of my same questions addressed, and especially regarding the 'rose-colored glasses' topic. The joy and smiles this video brought me are truly incredible. I adore this interview - it was not only informative but also incredibly enjoyable and funny. Dr. McGregor has always been my favorite doctor to watch, and although I've had occasional doubts, this video has cleared them up. It's now my favorite video from your channel! Thank you for sharing this gem, Chris. Keep up the fantastic work!
A word of caution, I personally eat loads of starchy foods, so really don't find McDougall's stuff much off the mark but do include things like protein from plant source and exercise. Assuming you mean McDougal not McGregor as there is no such plant doc....this is doctor Greger. But there is this from forks over knives site in reference to McDougall's retirement in 2018... "But after a year of personal hardships-Mary underwent shoulder surgery, he broke his leg, they lost their home in the 2017 Santa Rosa fires-McDougall decided it was time to pass the torch."" I heard but was unable to provide from other source, just could not find it today, the broken leg was in reference to a fall in the bathroom. He is old but not real old, so a broken leg from a fall in the bath, osteoporosis which typically runs concurrent with sarcopenia. They are rarely if ever found apart, excepting patients in hospitals in bed rest conditions. I per example fell from a 24 foot ladder working on a second story roof last october at roughly his age..suffered no broken anything, hit my side hit my hip my face even my ankle with a severe sprain but no broken bones. Why no sarcopenia is why. Which is very important, All people fall at times a break or not is likely sarcopenia or not.
Great episode! I was on the fence about getting his new book. I figured it would be similar to his other ones. But after watching this, I'm thinking I was wrong to assume I wouldn't learn anything new. Thanks interviewing Dr. Greger and putting together this video!!
I saw Dr. Greger give his "How Not to Age" talk in Illinois last week in front of a packed house. Not only was his presentation chock full of good info, but the man is of good humor and hilarious!!!
I was first turned on the Dr Greger about 10 years ago. I read his blog and listen to the videos weekly, use his research as a guideline. He and Dr Neal Barnard have changed my life. Whole food plant based is the way to go. I am 70yo and take no pharmaceuticals. Hoping for 15 more years of well being.
Chris, I’m curious if you know the genetic reason you had the stroke? Was it Lp(a)?! I also found out I have genetically high Lp(a), it’s 380 nmol/L and no one in my family has lived past 71. Finding out about my Lp(a) is what prompted me to stop consuming red meat and since I did all of my cardiovascular markers have drastically decreased, thank goodness 😅
Gah, I'm really sorry to hear about your Lp(a). Yes, both Toni and I have somewhat elevated levels of Lp(a) and my family is riddled with early death from heart disease. Officially, my stroke was classified as cryptographic, meaning of an unknown cause. But there is a flap in the heart that allows blood flow between the chambers that is supposed to close at birth, called a PFO. Mine didn't close and that is one of my many risk factors for strokes. 😵💫
@@PlantChompers oh goodness! I’m so sorry to hear that. Thank goodness you take such good care of yourself, I’m sure that’s what saved your life. I’m doing everything I can to prevent cardiovascular issues but I think there’s only so much I can do because of my high Lp(a). I focus on getting my ApoB as low as I can. When I was consuming animal foods my particle count was almost 1900, and now it’s below 1100! My LDL was 194 and now it’s 112. I’m grateful for channels like yours and all the free content you put out 🙌
Wow, congrats on your better numbers. My stroke was serious enough I was speech impaired and they were talking to me about taking away my driver's license and possibly being in a rest home. The neurologist said she had several patients in rest homes in their early 40s who will never be able to leave. But somehow I was walking the halls of the hospital a few hours later, completely normal in all ways. The nurses and doctors said they had never seen anyone do that will a stroke as major as mine. It makes to cherish every day you're given because who knows what tomorrow brings.
@@PlantChompers wow, that is terrifying! I will turn 40 in January and my biggest fear in life is not being healthy and not being able to take care of myself. Some people think I’m obsessive about taking care of myself but they don’t see my mom and know my family history. My mom turned 70 in October and although she does have elevated Lp(a) at 110 nmol/L, she also has really low LDL, it’s 80. I believe that’s what has kept her heart in good shape. She eats a mostly plant-based diet but incorporates salmon 2-3 times a week. She also smoke’s unfortunately and has for 50 years and has RA and gout but her heart is at least in good shape. Her dad died from heart disease at 63 and her mom at 70. She has 5 siblings who all died in their early to mid 60’s and they all ate a high red meat/saturated fat diet. Thankfully she seemed to realize what the problem was and started eating differently in her 40’s.
Ugh. I have the same hole in my heart that never closed. I actually had open heart surgery back in 2005 to repair a blown mitral valve and then a second surgery just 6 months ago to replace that valve with a mechanical one since the repair had become calcified and stenotic. I am "only" 63 y/o and will now be on Warfarin for life. Maybe that will help to prevent a stroke from my enclosed heart flap. Again...Ugh!
Another excellent video, Chris!!!! Both of our wives are huge Greger fans ! I've been hearing his goofy "let's put it to the test" videos coming from her laptop for over a decade and we have signed copies of his books. You scoring an interview with him is sure to earn me extra points for being a fan of yours since 2008. :D I'll be the one buying this book because I've been working my way through the maze of longevity protocols for a long time. I have my guesses, but... will you please name all 6 reasons for being vegan? My wife has only 4 and health is only 1 of them. Hi Toni!!!! Great job with Dr. G!
I struggle with Peter Attia. He's far more knowledgeable and experienced than I am, and I value his perspective. Particularly over mine. Had I read his last book and taken it seriously say, 15 years ago, I would be in a better place. I do find it interesting how firmly he holds into animal proteins and animal-based foods as strictly superior. He's gradually making his way over to more vegetarian-friendly ideology, but I do wonder if he's so slow to do it for non-scientific reasons. Regardless, he's an intelligent person with great information worth listening to. I'm far from capable of criticizing. Also, what an incredible shirt?! 7:34
I made a similar post earlier. I too suspect he might be more inclined to view some of the nutritional research as inconclusive for non-scientific reasons, though probably not consciously.
I read Peter's book and loved it. I mostly payed attention to everything but the nutrition advice in the book (since I do not agree on that front with him). I liked very much the emphasis he places on exercise, so I learned A LOT from it. Great book.
He might be viewer biased, same as Hubertman and caught in the pleasure trap. Also he believes in aggressively treating with statins early to lower ldl-C/ApoB to very low which he might be right about some sub population so food is less of an issue for him. But I see his language change about it, saying some could lower it with diet, obviously without talking about what diet.
He let emotions take the charge. I find his disdain for nutritional epidemiology quite funny. Exercise so far at best produce like 20-40% lower heart disease mortality or incidents. Back then when I heard he said mangos are fake fruits because of the fructose content. I mean duh, u need to consume 5kg of mango to reach 3000 calories for such a big guy like him. How much fruit normal person eat? 200-500g at best. As always former athletes usually have a beef with animal protein
Thank you so much for the first minutes of this video where you clear up the confusion and contradictions in all the various health books....Attia etc..... That was absolutely eye opening for me. Very very helpful.
Chris: Can you please address/debunk the little guy “influencers” out there? Like:Ken D Berry MD. Crazy! Advocates NO veggies or fruit and thinks their healing nutrients are “magical thinking”! I’d love to see if he’s still alive in 2-5 years!
What I’d love to see is a debate between Drs. Greger and Attia on the question of prioritizing exercise and high protein (Attia) vs plant-base nutrition and low protein (Greger). They both are smart and articulate and have huge audiences that hang on there every word, but they both can’t be right. Seems to me that they would keep such a debate civil and possibly could learn from each other, as would we. Plant Chompers, you'd be great hosts of such a show!
Studies have shown restricting protein, particularly protein high in methionine, mostly animal based, is better for longevity. The evidence is the evidence. Now if you're eating reasonable amounts of plant protein, you will be fine.
Nah Attia and Greger do not seem a good match for this debate. Greger has made up his mind and Attia is one of the most stubborn people in the business. What you would need for Attia is someone who actually knows his stuf and does the actual research and publications. Valter Longo would shred Attia into a million pieces and Sinclair will not have much sympathy for the unscientific claims either (he didn't have mercy on Huberman on that front). So maybe Attia and Christopher Garder,.. that would be a nice debate. Or maybe Attia and Liza Mosconi? Those both can really put Attia on the thinking chair because they are extreme hardhitters with high publications on regular basis.
@@y.g.1313 Probably not on channels you watch. How about the discussion on the hallmarks of aging? There are tons of vegan proponents on that consensus paper. That is one of THE most serieus discussions that was to be had in the field. But no most plant based proponents don't waste time discussing very small influence hype type of fad diet proponents. Because they solve themselves in a matter of months or years. Just not worth the effort.
@PlantChompers is, by far, my favorite channel on RU-vid. It makes my day when a new video is out. The quality of your videos are unbelievable. True public service. Thank you Chris and Toni for what you do!! 💚 Much love from Brazil!!!
1:05:19 Who is that stalking Greger and Toni? I can't believe they did this interview while walking and talking in the Palm Springs heat! It was brutal out there 💚💪 Also, Chris puts in incredible effort and creativity into getting perfect shots. Nobody would know the flowers in the vase are bound by floss 😉!
Hahaha, yes, it was great to have you watch how the sausage was made. I remember your expression when you looked at me after discovering the cameras were not recording. 😵💫 That turned out to be the best worst mistake I ever made when making videos, because when he came back we had more time with him.
Chris, I wonder if you {or Dr. Greger) have come across the 2016 book "Why Animals aren't Food -and how low carb and paleo diets sicken and kill us" by South African resident Rohan Millson. The amount of research this man has done is mind blowing. He is quite irreverent in his comments, but he is obviously passionate about health, the environment, and animal welfare. He runs an animal sanctuary.
To claim that animals aren’t food is ridiculous. Archaeological and anthropological evidence indicates that for the quarter million years that anatomically modern humans have existed, the majority of cultures have for most of this time period been eating meat and other animals products such as fish, eggs, milk and other types of dairy. On top of that, bone marrow was consumed by many humans throughout our evolutionary history and people used to eat animals from head to tail including their eyes, their kidneys, their hearts, etc. So to claim that animals aren’t food is just a lie. You can argue that some things are less healthy than plant foods: sure, that’s a point you can make. But to say they aren’t food is simply a lie.
Thank you for this. I’ve been curious about the book seeing it advertised for some time. Btw, the How Not to Age cookbook is already out (11/30). Your wife’s questions about calcium sparks a question I’ve had for some time - does the warning on calcium supplementation extend to the fortification in plant milks? Some plant milk providers have 500mg of calcium in one cup. Often people will drink 2 or more in a sitting. According to the evidence, is this a danger? I’d love to also know Dr. Gregor’s recommendation on calcium amounts (if he has any specific amounts to get per day). Your wife should do more interviews (if she’s so inclined). She’s very, very good at it. I look forward to your next video, and I hope all of you stay in good health for a long time.
