How NOT To Write A Song (feat. Pat Finnerty) 

Fun fact Pat Finnerty is how I found JHRA. Justin made an appearance in the video and searched and found this channel.

You should just have an ongoing podcast show with Pat! Like once a month or whatever. It was a joy to listen to you both!

Pat casually dropping a Beato has made my Monday un-shit.

“Stop Draggin My Heart Around” with Petty and Nicks is quite a good duet methinks!

The first historical reference to Hog Ride. Outstanding.

That Starburst analogy was genuinely profound. This is why we love Pat.

The crossover we've all been waiting for. We'll never get that Miles Davis/Jimi Hendrix side project, but at least we have this.

He's 100% correct when he says people "Don't even listen to their friends albums". Months of work put into something that 10's of people actually check out after it's released.

Justin + Pat = the world as it should be

That sneaky "Beato" in there was just gold. Made me smile... thanks for this, you two!!

As a person of a certain age I can completely relate to this content/art. You guys are made for this medium.

You two should probably do this regularly. It's a wonderful listen.

absolutely loving this. and regarding the starburst thing around 37:00 it put me in mind of Beavis & Butthead on Radioheads Creep. Beavis asks “How come they don’t just, like, play that cool part through the whole song?” Buttheads consise analogy “Well Beavis, if they didn’t have a part of the song that sucked, then it’s like, the other part wouldn’t be as cool.” See, even Butthead gets it 🙂

We ride for pat because he represents us and doctors it up with humor he’s like a civil liaison between musicians true music lovers terrible bands and their followers and isn’t afraid to be blunt without crossing into their bs he’s like the boondock saints without the killing but a step to calling bs and explaining why and making you laugh. IT’s balance we desperately need and was a Covid life saver. Pat is a dude and if you’ve never heard him say BIGG SHOWW your life probably needs to be tightened up. Pats the real deal. Plus Larry and Kim and BTGG so many fantastic people that are the best of us and we can relate rejoice and release years of agony and torture Love you both

This is so great ... the bit about musicians/band having to serve up "content" .. and people slurping it up but not checking out the album you spent months/years creating. Welcome to the dystopian nightmare that is the 2020's...

Pat and Justin singing A Whole New World is the stuff I need more in my life.

How did I miss this!? Pat is such a dry chuckle and really quite an exceptional mind - his references blow mine! x

Amazing to hear an early draft of the smash hit Hog Ride

Pat is one of the naturally funniest people on RU-vid, but also clearly knowledgeable about music. I loved this interview. His WMTSS series was a revelation, I had not laughed so much and so hard at something in a long while.

I tell you what's a great prechorus: Mandinka. "I don't know no shame, I feel no pain, I can't see the flame". Bloody brilliant.

I just have a blast watching Pat in any format. I subbed to Justin after watching him in that early Pat video because I didn't know about the channel so that was a gift that keeps on giving.

I feel bad for the people skipping this one because they don’t know who Pat is. I wish people gave more things a chance. Even though I watch Pat and love his videos this is such a great conversation. They’re both not only super talented but so funny. This was just a great time. I’m really enjoying Justin’s long form videos. Talking about everything under the sun that affects us as humans and not just music. Makes things more interesting. I just have such a deep appreciation for Justin Hawkins and I’m glad I took a chance and gave you a listen over a year ago when he was unknown to me.

Justin, I’ve been listening to AC/DC since the seventies, and still don’t understand/know the lyrics to “Back in Black,” or most AC/DC songs. They’re one of those bands you just mumble-sing to. Btw, you were brilliant with Wolf (and you nailed “Under Pressure”!) I would love to see you interview Wolf about his music. The second Mammoth WVH album is going to drop in August. I saw him on the tour of his first album. He’s an amazing musician, and frontman, with a beautiful voice. Van Halen songs don’t do his voice justice, but “Epiphany,” “Circles,” “Distance” and his other songs do.

August has fallen. Wish I could like this 50 times.

Real fans remember when this was titled, "F*** YOU PAT FINNERTY!!"

My friend bought ten pounds of only red and pink Starbursts and got sick of them damn quick. This is the greatest analogy for the modern music industry I've heard.

I absotively loved this...what a double act you guys are. You MUST record that Shitegiest writing sesh and share it with us all.

Please make this a regular feature on your channels. This just tickles my brain box!😊

Frusciante has the technical ability. While he loves Hendrix and Jimmy Page, he said that stuff had already been done (and to the max) so he wanted to explore other musical avenues. He enjoyed "textural players" (pretty sure Bernard Sumner was one example he gave) and he tried to imagine their limits as guitar players do his best while playing within those limitations. He's a very interesting interview, btw. Definitely worth checking out (especially during his 2nd stint in the band - like 1999-2006).

I know they're just mates mucking around having a chat but Islands In The Stream, Whenever I call You Friend, Don't Go Breaking My Heart, You're the one that i want, don't let the sun go down on me, i knew you were waiting for me, etc. etc. I love a duet!

That was simply the best music exchange between two honestly funny and talented guys! Loved this episode 🙌 the cashew backstage story by Pat had me cracking 😅

Anyone else watch the long form and podcast version ? ✋

One more great rock duet: Stop Draggin My Heart Around

Love Pat, great idea for a guest! Edit - That was really a brilliant watch, so much fun. Hope you two do this again at some point

This is brilliant! You guys should most def do this on a regular basis 👍

You guys have great energy together. I have watched both podcasts and I think the two of you create a vibe that adds up to more than the sum of its parts.... if that makes sense. You might want to think about a regular thing.

Just when you think it could not get any better. WOW! Monday’s with JHRA are like Christmas morning, filled with joyous wonderment. Thank you ❤

This was brilliant. We need a regular podcast from you 2!

As much as you may regret what happened with Brian Johnson at the tribute show I don't think you realize how many followers you gained that day. I got reacquainted with you after 20 years and I'm certainly not the only one. I would love to see you interview Brian Johnson long form in the future.

I LOVED that episode, I was drawn in for the entire thing, what fun! Dying to hear the song you guys write, you must perform it😂

Love you both, your collabs have been my favorite pieces of both of your channels.

I loved this. You're both really amiable and interesting to listen to. Thanks!

I am loving seeing you guys together. So much fun x

You two are the best. Loved this one. Thank you.

by far, the coolest podcast you've made so far. What an entertaining convo!

Pat, you had me at the pedal-mobile. That alone is brilliant! Loved this convo, JH! The two of you together are brilliant!

This made my day - love you both!!

Thanks Justin. I needed to be productive this afternoon!! OH WELL. SO MUCH FOR THAT!! But seriously, thanks! I’m guilty of at least three or four comments calling for Pat on the show. He’s a treasure!!

This is the combo I needed in my life. Thank you!!

I cannot express how much it warms my heart hearing these two share a lot of the same feelings i hold toward music. :)

Spectacular. You two are so intelligent and have such wit and style and fit it all together into a mad eccentric genius art form all its own.

Nice one mate! I must say, I've ignored your channel for a while. But this one, especially in podcast format, is ideal content for during my cycle rides. I've added it to my spotify playlist. Thanks!

Thanks for this. I enjoyed every single second of it.

this is my new favorite J-Hawk offering. Such insightful conversation. And, you and Pat have made me put Dire Straits on to play.

HOLY CRAP!!! I didn't know Pat was in Sweatheart! I was at that show in Philly where you did the Bryan Adams covers and I have the set list from the show! I'm a huge fan of The Darkness and Pat. Have you heard of a band called August is Falling?

what an amazing interview. you guys bounce off each other in the funniest way.

AHHHH how long I've waited!! Your input in his video was just brilliantly insightful, so this collab is FANTASTIC :D - #1 fan of August is Falling :)

I discovered your channel through What Makes This Song Stink!!❤️

Can't wait to watch. Honestly Justin I had no idea about your channel until i saw ot on pats show. He got me hooked on ya which i will always be grateful for.

Please do this again! Great vid. Pat is great, been watching both of your channels for a while now.

Pat is right. Don’t carry that around. You were magnificent!!!

Such an encyclopedic knowledge and human understanding of music - without excluding those of us who just dip our toes in the history of music pond. It's really special. Thank you.

I think this needs to be a regular thing between you fellas, because I would watch/listen to this as a regular podcast. If you boys want to go for three hours, I’m down. What would be really great is if you guys wrote a song or an entire album on camera. Name the album after the title track, Shitegeist and call the project “What Makes J.P. Hawk-Finn Ride the Stink Again?” or something like that. Whatever you guys do, I think it would be lovely because I enjoyed every moment of this and love how Pat sucked Justin down into his trash talking, which is sure to catch some attention one way or another-and if you ever get someone that isn’t so chuffed about how they were discussed on the show, you can have them on to defend themselves or “pass the stink” onto someone else they think stinks even worse-so it’s like in the film The Ring, where you have to pay it forward to someone else to save yourself.

I can’t believe I watched the entire video in one sitting! So good. Shite-Geist is brilliant and encapsulates everything going on in music and frankly our world right now! When you said Bohemian Rhapsody you were right on. But after some thought I’m thinking rock opera like Tommy. Can’t wait to hear it! ❤

This was so good. Definitely the crossover I needed. Hope you two do more projects together

Two of my favorite channels come together, how fun!

Actually watched the whole thing in one go, crazy. Also “no good rock has ever been played on a PRS” ❤❤❤

Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, more please.

In John frusciante's defense, he played the solos on The Mars Volta's Francis the mute.

This was absolutely marvelous. I can't be the only one who reveres Frusciante because of his solo work. Love that guy. While I was taken aback by the panning of the Silver Sky (it's a fantastic guitar), I like that J-Hawk put the word "rock' in it. Finally, thank you for so much Knopfler. Every minute of this was remarkable.

Brilliant collaboration! Please do more!

I know zero music, not a musician, can't read and all talk of *theory* from the rudiment to the whatever the f*ck goes entirely over my head. However I'm fully invested in engaging interaction between people who with confidence (and great humor) speak about what they know. A testament to engaging content. Kudos, yinz jerks.

This was excellent. Would love to hear more from you both, together. My two favorite music youtube channels combined! Also, I've gotta go with Telegraph Road for best DS song.

best thing ever...and I expect you guys deliver on the collab

Entertaining song mixes. You two are fun together. You just get it. Mutual understandings.

i could listen these two talking music forever

So enjoyed this. Thanks!

My two favorite people, that Ive never met. J.Hawks and P.Finns at the same time! My head might explode. I can feel myself growing stronger just by listening to them. Inspiring me to add 9.

That was awesome! Such a great conversation. Thanks guys!!

How am i only finding out about this now? Good work algorithm Im subscribed to both and you tell me two weeks late?! Love Pat and Justin. There needs to be more collaboration!

Two of the most entertaining people on RU-vid. This was a delight

Great chat! I'm not familiar with Pat's work, but I'll check it out! It's amazing you just had a funny conversation, but along the way you came up with the formula for the perfect pop song.

When I stumbled upon Pat's videos and I saw Justin was in them, that instantly made Pat legit in my eyes.

Did not want that to end. thank you to you both.

Hey Pat and Justin - so great to hear you guys riffing off each other - please give us more in the future - my vote for greatest chorus ever? - "Go All The Way" by The Raspberries - greatest bridge? - "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by the Beach Boys - greatest verse? I need a couple of weeks on that........

I honestly enjoyed this so very much! Watched it like three times already haha. I hope Mr. Finnerty will be a recurring guest!

Really enjoying this, only 10 mins in. Usually watch straight away, but couldn't be there on time this week!

Thank you Justin! Pat Finnerty RULES and I love all the inside banter. Thanks for the long form. Looking forward to Shitegeist

Oh can't wait to sit down and listen to this. Should be EPIC!

I enjoyed this conversation, and have enjoyed both of your channels.

i was waiting for this, loved it.

1st hour: Plenty of hilarious moments🤣 2nd hour: GOLD!🤩 I enjoyed so much your chat about guitar players and how you made such an awesome brainstorming for that new song. You both should do a minipodcast updating your composing progress for us!😍 But now I have a problem...🤔How am I going to manage following both channels???🤔😅

You guys are hilarious! I love your song mashups !

I would love a few or several of these a year. Not too much. Maybe every other month would be perfect

I was needing a solid two hour dose of Pat. Thanks!

I saw Beato's videos before Pat, and quite possibly why I found Pat was because of him, and the best part is Pats type of content is what I was looking for when I found Beato, and I haven't watched another Beato video since. Finding out these guys know each other and now an interview is just great. I just started watching Justin and this is a huge bonus. Also, I've been a huge Dr. Dog fan since I was in my early 20s. I think it's actually 6 degrees of Pat Finnerty. Kevin Bacon being from Philly makes that even more hilarious.

Patt Finnerty's worst Lenny Kravitz superbowl video absolutely dropped me, I cried laughing.

Best ep. Love both of your channels, but hadn't seen the connection until watching this

Thank you for introducing me to the Viagra Boys (so exceedingly cool). You are correct when you say that most of us don’t explore paths to music other than what we are fed, so I appreciate that your platform is exposing us to new music. Keep doing what you are doing!

The starbust part is pure poetry. Please do more of these. And also make a verse chorus bridge together.