How other shows/franchises do it so much better than Star Wars 

I watch a lot of the “Hate” channels, but almost all of them loved Andor.

For what it's worth - House of the Dragon season 1 had a budget of $200m, or approx. $20m per episode. The Acolyte is $180m for 8 episodes, or $22.5m per episode. House of the Dragon is doing a LOT more with less.

You know, Thor, years ago people used to say "the client is always right"... And, now, they try to blame the clients. Mad times...

I remember watching the Obi Wan series, giving up after a few episodes and watching Stranger Things instead and I could feel the difference in quality from the writing to the sound design. Everything in ST was enormously better than anything Disney Star Wars has put out short of Andor. This argument that the fan base wants to hate Disney is dumb. Disney makes crap and we criticize it. No algorthimic manipulation needed here.

Who knows. Maybe HBO chose their writers based on their skills and not on their political orientation ...

Careful Thor, you’re gonna have the “can’t criticize Disney” crowd out for blood at this rate. 😁 We’ve argued this until we’re blue in the face. They won’t accept that it’s just quality that the majority of SW fans want, and that it’s not some sort of moral failure that we’re not enjoying these shows.

The difference is: the Game of Thrones show runners actually are trying to give a good account of literature and fandom. Star Wars is being ruined by show runners on purpose

I feel like the formula is simple. Make good content, get good reviews. If Disney/LucasFilm habitually put out less than stellar content, they open themselves up for criticism. Mediocre products do not deserve high praise. Terrible products deserve to be called out as such.

@thor This is arguably the best critique that holds up. Why do other TV shows treat their viewers right and we get thrown under the bus? Fallout series was a big hit. Faithfulness to the source material. Tasteful Easter eggs that’s not in your face and rewards long time fans. Hell even diverse likeable cast. I’d like to think that most of us aren’t racists or women beaters. We just want what everyone else is getting :(

It's funny. HotD does everything thing that The Acolyte does: non-binary lead actresss, diverse cast, etc. Yet, the reception could not be more different.

HotD doesn’t treat its fans like they’re infantile or need pandering to with baseless action and shallow notions of representation. It tells a story driven by cause and effect, not a meta agenda.

The 'hate' channels are not popular because people love to hate on Star Wars and Marvel, the 'hate' channels are popular because they aren't trying to gaslight people like the rest of media seems to be. It is a healing experience to have others confirm that you are not crazy or an istaphobe for saying mediocre and bad media is mediocre and bad. Where mainstream media woulf have you believe something is wrong with you for not liking a lazily made product. Also, these same channels indeed praise the good ones still.

When I look at a show like Cobra Kai, it make's me wonder how the hell did they get the show right, when they couldn't so the same with Star Wars?

Part of it is--what I am thinking which goes along with this video; perhaps Disney needs to start treating Star Wars projects as life or death. After what happened with Game of Thrones Season 8, House of the Dragon Season 1 *HAD* to be good to justify the cost and the cherished IP. Or it would've likely been canceled. Same with the original pilot of Game of Thrones Ep1 Season1. Either the pitched show is amazing, or they don't let that director/producer continue. Give Dave Filoni & whichever other producers one more show, otherwise he's kicked back to the writing team, ect. On the other hand, let Tony Gilroy continue as many projects as he wants. Also, I think instead of Disney *pitching* shows to directors/producers--directors/producers not established in SW should use showrunners & have to pitch a pilot episode, and then if the show runner goes good the show can continue. This is what HBO and others have done, it is a tried and tested format. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy knows better, but that's just my two cents.

It was some serious whiplash watch HoTD with the Acolyte still festering in my brain. Wow. Going by runtime, the budget for Acolyte is actually greater, I think. And dang is it a stinker. My god.

Thank you! OMG! THANK YOU! I have said this for the longest time. While, I don't agree with just crapping on everything SW but the thing is they haven't helped it from calling fans names to also producing the worse shows out there. Until Disney and most of the entertainment industry stops crapping on the fans and think it is a "W" the course will remain the same.

The best criticism is insightful, well reasoned, and tactful; but even if a criticism has the first two attributes but is harsh and vitriolic, it doesn't change the validity or worthiness of the criticism. Truth spoken in love has the best chance of being heeded and spares unnecessary hurt, but truth spoken in hate is still true. However, some critics who are labeled "hateful" or "toxic" offer reasonably supported critiques; are sometimes constructive, not merely negative; and are balanced in that they give positive views when warranted like Andor or Mandalorian S1 and S2.

I think my favorite scenes on Star Wars are the dialogue scenes. I’d go as far as to say that is true about most shows and movies for me. One of the most iconic scenes in the series is Anakin and Palpaine just sitting and talking at the opera; it adds so much both characters and the world, plus it sets up the action later when Anakin must decide between saving Palpatine or helping Windu. Tarantino is probably one of the best examples of writers who have dialogue scenes steal the show, going as far as to have a word to describe it and works inspired by it: Tarantinoesque.

Reposting my comment I made in one of the threads here: I am so tired of the people who call channels "hate channels" because nearly 100% of the time the people using the term don't actually watch said videos.

5:11 How it feels watching the season 3 finale of the bad batch.Even though none of the remaining batchers died, you at least felt like one of them wasn't going to make it out alive.

It's never gonna happen because, unfortunately, Disney/ Lucasfilm don't see a problem. There's enough fans that, for better or worse, will love all Star Wars simply because it's Star wars :(

The reason the so-called hate channels have almost as many subscribers as the official Star Wars channel is catharsis. Fans are so powerless compared to the corporations that own the properties that the only enjoyment they can get is hearing iconoclasts roast the terrible product

Top Gun: Maverick was top of the box office for four months. It could've easily been a Star Wars movie.

The fact of the matter is the reason Disney shows have high budgets is because they keep reshooting scenes because they can’t decide what to settle on especially with vfx workers coming out to say how much they’re crunched by Disney stuff like Marvel and Star Wars

Disney needs to do what Sega did when their fans got angry. Much like Star Wars, the Sonic the Hedgehog games have had a rocky history. Sonic Forces was a very unpopular game, had a weightless story, poor level design and physics, and piggybacked off of much better games in the series. So what did Sega do? They dialed back and worked to fix those issues. Sonic Frontiers had a deep and interesting story, completely overhauled the levels and mechanics, and set the game in a much more isolated area to let it breathe. And what happened? Us Sonic fans got what we wanted as well as new things that fit very well. Disney needs to understand that whatever they do add to Star Wars, it needs to compliment the things the fans love, while enriching it with new ideas that work excellently.

Hey Thor, I was thinking about GoT in your last vid about Acolyte. Acolyte wants to be a mystery but the thing it seems to be building that mystery around is "what really happened to the witches?" Even if they did the POV thing where in one version they had lightsaber wounds and in another were crushed by the ceiling, etc., it's not a compelling enough scene to want to watch it from different perspectives and the whole thing is too much like the hated "what really happened between Luke and Ben" thing in TLJ, which everyone hated. GoT had tons of mysteries and character development that kept your interest, giving you more questions for every answer you got, driving you further down the rabbit hole. What's appealing about mysteries is the suspense and longing for that inevitable answer. You don't wait 3 episodes to introduce a mystery and then never give an answer. That is what we learned from JJ Abrams' approach to this. He hooked people with the questions and did good getting you into the rabbit hole, only to tick people off when the answer was ultimately not satisfactory. Acolyte seems like it's going to not only not give us a satisfactory answer, but it's also not getting us invested in the mystery or having it lead to other mysteries.

The Bad Batch is probably the most kid-targeted SW show Disney has made other than the Jedi Adventures show. Remember the trailer for it that specifically said: PARENTS, show this to your kids! Well I’m nearly 30, don’t have kids, and the Bad Batch is my 2nd favorite Disney show behind Andor and just a little ahead of Mando S1+2. Lucas Star Wars did a great job of hitting that balance between being appealing to and understandable for kids while also being deep enough for adults to appreciate. The themes and lessons are important to learn as a kid and good to remember no matter how old you are. Good Star Wars works for all ages.

What's interesting in the franchises you compared is that 2019 was the year that broke the fandom for both GoT and SW. Yet, one franchise chose to go back to what made it work, while the other decided to start a war with its own fans. Now with season 2 of House of the Dragon starting no one is moaning about how terrible the last season of GoT was, same as by the end of the OT no one was criticising George Lucas for the Holliday Special. Disney Star Wars, on the other hand, has continued digging its own grave, to the extent that it's now meeting disillusioned fans' expectations with how terribly bland it is.

As someone in the industry as a cinematographer I can say the biggest challenge I see is lack of vision. Acolyte has had multiple background issues and re-shoots and tension that house of dragons hasn’t had. Most of this ends up coming from execs. However, with that said I also think the actual execution is just poor paired with bad decisions but I digress.

Imagine a parallel universe where George sold Star Wars to HBO instead of Disney

Just coming from seeing the Raw match between Bon Breakker versus Sheamus to hear ya with the "banger after banger" line 😅 Anyway good video and fair argument of the Star Wars criticism 👍

At this point the stuff they release seems like it's meant to be hated on.

I still don’t understand how Sabine is force sensitive! 😩 Rebels didn’t foreshadow this at all. Terrible writing .

FYI... reporting from someone who was there... confidence level is mid. no way to independently verify, but here's the quote... it's complicated what this means but it's a terrible place for a drama to start from, producing from such a place is unlikely to lead to great art work... I remember a staff meeting a little after the 2016 presidential election where the executive in question stood out in front of the company and said we have a responsibility... I'm paraphrasing here I don't remember the exact wording but... 'we have a responsibility through the stories we tell to prevent what happened a few weeks ago from ever happening again' and like people were like standing up and cheering and all that and it's like you make sci-fi shows and there's nothing wrong with that but your stories are for entertainment they're not meant to drive political agendas and change the outcome of elections. but they really believe that what they're doing must have a huge impact on the world. that's why a lot of this is happening.

I really enjoyed your responses in this video! Thanks for the food content!

Ashoka series started but undoing rebels. The Republic in that series did dumb things like rebuild ships rather than repurpous them.

The commenter is completely wrong about the "hate" channels. They would be the first to champion GOOD SW. Just look at andor.

The Acolyte episode 3 was the most unintentionally hilarious SW content created since the Holiday Special, but I don't think SW can be killed. As long as we have Lucas SW and some of the Filoni, hopefully someday someone will be inspired to make better SW.

It’s so weird that in most industries large scale reduces cost, but in entertainment, seemingly large scale means they have the highest cost of anything in the industry. Disney spends so much on their stuff and it doesn’t show, but random Indy films do more with less, think of Godzilla minus one. Compare to like Coca Cola, who is so big that no one can produce a cheaper beverage than them since they are at such scale and have so much vertical integration into shipping, bottling, water sources ect. Weird how that works.

Hey Thor, have you heard about some of the changes at Marvel? Chris Gore was reporting that a bunch of producers were fired and that they’re aware of how and why things went off the rails. If indeed that is true, does this give you hope that Lucasfilm might course correct at some point?

Your videos are the absolute best at covering this shitshow that is the Acolyte. I don’t just mean the show itself, but the backlash of it as well. Please continue doing what you’re doing!

In Andor, even eating cereal became an incredible event.

Hey Thor, this will be my first official “hey Thor“ comment for the many years I’ve watched your channel. In your opinion, what style of Star Wars would you like to see next? If Andor was a political-espionage setting, and Solo was a heist setting, What would be a cool genre that we haven’t seen before that you would enjoy? (I would personally love to see a setting like the Death Troopers/Red Harvest books. Essentially ‘Undead Horror’)

I think Disney Star Wars is beyond repair at this point. There’s so much garbage that’s come out, the only way to fix it would be to make everything from Disney, non canon and start again.

"the fans need to work at liking a disney product" No. What possible situation can you apply this to? What other industry could you ever say this about? "We'll cook it again and burn it a little less but you'll just have to learn to like burned steak" "Well your toilet still won't flush, but I did replace the handle on it, it looks much nicer now, so focus more on how nice the handle is and less on how the toilet won't flush" "Well I didn't get _all_ the tumor... but I did get a lot of it. I feel like that's a fair compromise" Madness. Star wars causes people's brains to go haywire and make them like things that are awful, and won't admit it.

Pretty simple: Some Disney SW stuff was good, maybe even pretty good (Andor, Rogue One, Mando S1&2) But the majority was mediocre at best and downright awful at the worst, which is not what people expect from Star Wars. Many of us "haters" are only left with one sort of enjoyment out of Disney Star Wars, watching people shit on it in a funny way, like Drinker, Mauler, Reaper, or Nerdrotic do. It is a sad state of affairs for sure, but it is what it is.

Positivity is also profitable. The 2010’s had dozens of channels make a huge name for themselves when Marvel content was great. Trailer breakdowns and hype casts and reviews that were expecting good things were hugely popular. Stuckman Jahns Mr Sunday Movies Comicstorian (RIP) Variant Comics and a dozen more hit huge when comics were at their peak. You can profit from things being good. The stuff these companies have made though haven’t been good.

Disney needs to worry about the Star Wars fans like me, the fans who didn’t watch The Acolyte because they’ve STOPPED watching Star Wars altogether!

There's a bit of nuance in the case of Andor. I watched Critical Drinker's After Hours podcast when Andor was coming out, and while Drinker and Mauler were rightfully praising the show, some of the other guests like, iirc, Geeks+Gamers and Nerdrotic were trying to hate the show. And I do mean trying, they were reaching for whatever criticism they could no matter how trite or even incorrect it was because, as the commenter said, outrage IS profitable. Star Wars Theory was another one; I don't often see him as an outrage machine, but he has the opposite problem where he seems to just want Star Wars to be nostalgic and if it's not, again, he reaches hard for some patently ludicrous criticisms of an otherwise damn near perfect show. That part of the fanbase does need to be addressed, and while Disney putting out quality shows would go a long way to solving it, I think the fanbase would have to deliver the final blow, as it were, to really bury that kind of toxicity.

Thanks so much for your reply Thor! I want to add that I’ve been pretty overwhelmingly negative about some projects in the past. Definitely not an always positive SW fan 😂. Your reply made my week, thanks so much

Great summary. Re watching Andor makes you realise what’s possible and it’s so frustrating that for whatever reason Lucas Film just can’t seem to get it right more often than not. I mean Disney have done great content with Shogun and MoonKnight so why the issue with Star Wars?

Disney is manipulating the algorithm. Hedland knew episode 3 would generate backlash for example because it breaks lore.

Confirmed: Thor Skywalker is a Sheamus fan. “Banger after banger after banger after…” 😁

A lot of the supposed "hate channels" want good star wars. Critique thrives when the content they are critiquing is bad yet beloved. If star wars was putting out good to excellent shows these channels wouldn't criticize them. But there is so much right now to criticize in Star wars, from the little things to the big things. And what's truly frustrating is that they keep messing up at every level. The acolyte could be a good show, about bad guys, which would be interesting. But we aren't given any villains, there's no one to root for or against.

The Critical Drinker does outstanding videos where he is positive about current movies. Disney has only itself to blame for his well-reasoned and insightful criticism.

They’re (and we) are really just that disappointed in much of Star Wars. Thanks for pointing out the excellent Andor and good Mando 1 & 2. Case in point- with Star Trek: tons of similar content about most of the new shows- then the excellent Picard Season 3 came out and not only was no one bashing it, those channels were praising it. I think many of us just want good stories and we’d be happy to come back. I think many people go to those channels because of the percussive nature of the substandard content being churned out- and the perceived gaslighting that there must be something wrong with us for not wanting to watch crappy shows with bad story telling. Thanks for your balanced approach.

It’s not just House of the Dragon. It’s near everything on TV, even the mediocre or under budgeted, does more with the story and episode and takes more chances and understands how to make the characters not only say and do more, but seem fuller than we get in Star Wars live action shows not called Andor. And I think that part of that is that they have a decent sized team of people working and writing and researching behind the scenes that know round about how to handle a TV show or develop a character / story or write a scene or dialogue or how someone might act even in the background, and I get the opposite of that with Star Wars where it feels to me at times like they must of had two or three guys just write the script in a noisy bar on the back of a napkin and sent it in, with one of them taking the next day off, and their team just ran with that, without changes or input or added stuff, and to make up for skimpy content, they just cutout the episode runtimes. And in the end it’s as if if it is not action, cut it down and keep it slow as if they think that the viewers at home can’t handle much more than that.

Do you really think they’ll replace Kathleen with someone opposite to Kathleen? That’s naive thinking. You have to understand LucasFilm itself as a WHOLE doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.

In my case even the ppl who didn't like andor praised the work and just said I only didn't like it bc it wasn't my thing

I watch channels that make good good points, offer interesting insight, and educate me about things I don’t know much about (like proper story structure and character-building methods). The fact that those same channels happen to hate this stuff isn’t actually important to me. Their “hate” is always the least valuable thing they offer. If I feel a piece of content trying to make me angry; trying to clickbait enrage me… I don’t watch it. I DO enjoy comedy, and there is a LOT of comedy that mocks things. Another thing that makes me switch channels fast is BS. And there is a LOT of BS coming from these companies making these trash shows. Having a promo where a bunch of freaks cheerfully explain how little they know about Star Wars doesn’t make me want to watch the content they create. Having show runners boast how they just pretend to know what’s going on until the project is done and then get more work doing the same bad job doesn’t make me want to watch their content. This show; this show IN PARTICULAR, is full of people who triumphantly trumpet their own ignorance and disinterest in the source material. And then I’m supposed to watch it? If someone came to my job, mocked me for working hard and knowing what I’m doing while boasting how much they get paid to do less and know less, I wouldn’t want them anywhere near me. Why watch this show made by people who did that with Star Wars?

I agree on people giving a chance when KK leaves. I was a fan from my earliest memory of seeing RotJ at the teatre as a kid until after Mando s2. The decline in quality is very apparent and they seem like shows on a 2nd rate site trying to copy atarwars but doing a poor job. Was starwars ever perfect? No. Has it always had some logical leaps? Yes. But it in the past it was much higher quality and not antagonistic with fans. I don't follow starwars anymore but do see them (disney and co) attacking people before the show comes out and rubbing their noses in the politics they want to push. Give us well written, fun stories and we will watch. Sprinkle in some politics after you have a good story. Please disney, do better as I want to come back but at this point you've burnt all goodwill and have used all your 2nd chances. Remember the viewers and fans owe you nothing. You cannot expect them to consume because you say so.

I wonder if acolyte had a different goal from other shows being that they might not intend for this to be a 5 season series. Where the Dragon show has time to fill everything out.

Hey Thor I have 3 quick question regarding the quality of Star Wars: 1 Who is really to blame for the poor quality of the franchise since the Disney purchase? Is it Kathleen Kennedy herself or is it her just choosing the wrong people for the various SW projects? I don’t pretend to know how her job works, and a friend of mine said I should blame the people she chose not Kathleen herself. Do you know who’s really in the wrong here? 2 Looking at where we are now do you believe Disney rebooting the EU was the right thing to do? Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to answer fan questions, it means allot. 😇

The most recent movie that I watched is X-Men 2 from 2003... The characters in those movies have thier motivations shown and they are believable. Senator Kelly has a very good reason to support the mutant registration act, he's seen innocent people's lives be burned down by uncontrollable powers! Meanwhile, the Acolyte doesn't tell us anything, for all we know, the witches are actually evil and the Jedi have every reason to be concerned ! Good writing makes all the difference!

Look at Marva’s speech in andors season one finale. It was mostly talking and it’s the most intense thing I’ve seen since Neegan had Rick and crew on their knees.

From reaction content: People hate watching people talk bad about shows they like. If viewers in large liked the Starwars shows, the "hate" channels would get no views.

Disney Star Wars is at war with its own fanbase. Kathleen Kennedy fights a futile war against windmills in her attempt to rewrite star wars. No other franchise is doing this. For example Ghostbusters has course corrected and the fan backlash has mostly died down.

Well, House of the Dragon has the close collaboration of the architect, GRRM. The importance of that can't be understated as we saw when he was no longer involved with Game of Thrones. So much hinges on the writing. With he exception of Andor, Disney Lucasfilm has been hiring the wrong people and the wrong writers in partcular. Feloni can't write live action and Headland is looking no better.

My gripe with people defending these newer shows by saying they’re meant for kids, is that kids don’t like boring stories either! Dumbed down dialogue doesn’t help kids get hooked on a story if the story is still boring. I have young children and we have watched nearly every piece of Star Wars content that exists. They don’t ever ask to rewatch Kenobi or Ahsoka, but would rather watch the original movies or the Mandalorian. An intriguing story is what hooks all of us, including children.

Hello Thor, It was a wonderful video. I would like to see great characters' development and complexity. Allow us the fans to determine who's good and evil, right or wrong. I love getting into debates on whether Anakin (At full potential) would have knocked off the Emperor. Don't feed us the story down out throat. . I don't care what insert whatever label you like here, as long as the story and characters are well written. That should get most of the heat down. However haters will hate.

Andor doesn't get hate from those negative channels. Honestly, a lot of them admit it's good.

The literal creator of the world, GRRM, is heavily involved with the writing and production of the show. Where he was in Season 6-8 of GoT who knows. George Lucas got his bag and dipped. No involvement except if he chats with Filoni on the side or somethings.

I absolutely agree, it doesn't make sense to claim that just the "hate channels" are the problem. What Disney has is multimillion production of show, access to university educated marketing teams while the so called hater have some balding middle aged guy with a laptop, and somehow doing better job at anti-marketing than Disney in marketing the show. Clearly these must be something else going on.

I’m one of those that jumped back in after news of Mando S2. I had quit on it completely in light of the sequel trilogy - for a time, it was well worth my money. It doesn’t feel that way anymore. I’m going to wait to see what they do Tuesday - and if it has real value, I’ll keep on. If not, I’ll cancel the subscription and not bother watching their content anymore. Either way, Thor will get my viewership.

Action without stakes in star wars is the worst thing, i find myself starting to open another tab or looking on my phone during those moments and loosing track of the show. In Andor i was glued to the screen because i felt that something could actually happen (and it did)

Thanks Thor, whole-heartedly agree

Basically gave the right answer. If they don't give crap content there will be less hate. Of course not everyone is going to like something but the reaction wouldn't be as extreme.

Thinking the same while watching HOTD premiere… why is it so hard for other networks who have even bigger resources ( looking at Rings of Power and Star Wars here) can’t deliver similar quality

People need to know the diference Critisimim comes from passion and love for wanting something to be better while Hatered are things like frustrasion, anger and disgust for something

“mediocre at best” has never rang so true since Mando S3 I must have rewatched S1 and 2 4-6 times, but I think I haven’t even given 3 a single rewatch. BoBF got a few rewatches from me, and Kenobi.. just a few choice scenes. Even if, as you said, the mystery payoff in Acolyte is good- I cant see myself rewatching these early episodes..

Your on point on almost everything only one thing. It’s a bad series, nothing makes sense . Some optimistic RU-vidrs are trying to make sense of the story with the Dyad theory with one of the twins is supposed to be dead Also they were the ones to call this series gay and all its fans gay nerds . So they deserved everything they are getting especially with the series being not well written and they are inserting a lot of their personal points of view to Star Wars . That’s just a no no . Great video Thor

The hate is a reaction to the product. Shills would never admit that.

Thinking the same while watching HOTD premiere… why is it so hard for other networks who have even bigger resources ( looking at Rings of Power and Star Wars here) can’t deliver similar quality ? I mean surely they can see the difference 🤷‍♂️

Hey Thor, my personal take on Star Wars content has always been does it make the end of Return of the Jedi more, less or the same significance. Does Anakin saving Luke and destroying the Emperor matter? Does the Empire ending matter? Does bringing balance to the force have any lasting impact? Does Luke throwing down his lightsaber knowing that killing an unarmed person is wrong matter? With the sequel trilogy it obviously didn’t…..am I being too myopic? Love your content

There was something someone had once said on a Power Rangers podcast when Disney sold the IP back to Saban, and it stuck with me even now: “Disney has no respect for anything that they did not create themselves. And even with championing the brand internally, they’re not going to gain any traction because of the corporate culture.” Sounds very prophetic when you look back on it now with regards to how Disney has handled Star Wars. Aside from some notable exceptions, Star Wars is being mismanaged.

If there was an enormous audience for hate, then where is all the hate for the Fallout TV show? Shogun?

House of the Dragon is a great comparison too They're both sequels set 100+ years before the events of the originals. Die hard fans of Game of Thrones hated season 8 but are now loving this spin off series Fans love one and hate the other because well one of them is good and one of them isn't

I guess people would call me a hater, checked out after Star Wars 8, I saw just to finish the saga but didnt love it (better then 8 but the damage had been done). When I saw Andor I loved every second of it, give me more of that and I will be back. I "hated" the later sessions of GoT too but I came back to House of the Dragon cos its a good series.

Maybe a new poll: "How do you feel about Star Wars?" I bet on Apathy or dissapointment are more voted than hate

A lot of action would not be a bad thing even with no stakes would be fine if they actually made the action cool. A Star wars John wick style movie could be awesome. I was really hoping that might be the book of boba fett but i was so wrong.

God I'm rewatching House of the Dragon season 1 and it's soooooo good! I can't believe they did something brilliant with Game of Thrones after the nosedive it took.

Hey Thor, do you think there would ever be Lucasfilm or Disney would remove Star Wars content like The Acolyte similar to how they did with the Willow series?

One good show wouldn’t change much, as we saw with Andor, but if they consistently started putting out good content, I think the fan base would start to come back. There’s a lot of people that remember Star Wars fondly and would be excited if it got back on the right track, we’re just gonna need to see more than one show to believe they’re actually on that track.

When you're right you're right. But apathy is setting in now, so I just don't think I'll even bother tuning in to any youtuber to hear how the next Acolyte episode goes. Not when I could be watching House of The Dragon, or Godzilla Minus One, or a million other things. Disney hasn't been feeding the golden goose the secret formula to make it lay those golden eggs. I also just watched Space King, so I have some catching up to do, and no time to waste on further dissertations about Acolyte's failures. Andor was a masterpiece.

Hey Thor: I've heard another Star Wars YTer (maybe Theory? cant recall) say Obi-Wan has a low Midichlorian count. That he isnt very "naturally strong" in the Force. But he was very diligent and his training is why he was so good. Where is this said, if true? Thanks

Star Wars is different from any other entertainment IP - more akin to LOTR than any fiction born from cinema or TV. This is something that Disney never understood and are suffering greatly because of it. As such, fans of the pre-Disney property in a very real sense "lived" within this fictional universe, and found great value in sharing their love of Star Wars with others who felt similarly. With Disney's destruction of that universe, these same people find solace in sharing their misery with others who feel similarly.

9:42 i honestly wouldn’t doubt it. Dark side is a path to many things… probably includes means of keeping a job she is clearly unqualified for 🙄😂

Writers hired by their talent?

To the first guy I think he's plain wrong, people like Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, Mauler, etc. WANT Star Wars, Dr. Who, Star Trek to be good, in fact Drinker praised Picard season 3 for being goo's even though he absolutely hated the first 2 seasons, these people don't understand the hate is justifies if we were getting good products they would praise it!

Star Wars should always be universal ie. something kids and adults can enjoy. My main criticism of Andor - the only competently written SW outing under Disney - is that it is not something kids will enjoy. Andor lacks that SW magic. The Empire Strikes Back isn't full of big spectacle action, and yet it is the best SW out there. The only exception I would make is for SW aimed at very young kids, toddlers basically. Tho, these days, getting very young kids hooked on SW would just be cruel.