Actually Ronnie's cue when he first turn professional was a Buwart Champion the one he made 147 at record speed was a Burwat and John Parrot bought it off him. All his recent cues are made by Parris cue but the splicing on the butt is a homage to the Burwat Champion.
Agreed.A lot of unnecessary hand work here with the wood plane.Bring costs down & speed up production with machines also making these top branded cues affordable.He could still make a range by hand for the 'purist.'Hand made or machine made,the result is the same..
+Blessed Neither of you 2 know what you're talking about. No different then high end bats (cricket, baseball ect) and guitars are nearly all hand made, with little to no machining.
Well obviously they're doing something right. He only wants one of these to play with. Plus machines take away the little features and faults made by hand. This way each cue is unique.
I turned my own cues 30 years ago on the lathe, then used a bullet shell cut down as the furrel, but I didn't splice ebony in the butt, just had the end stained in a dark finish, surprised it's not warped yet. Even showed Steve Davis it, he said it's nice but to light in weight.
i found this shop in 1993 getting lost trying to find catford in south london lol i end up getting a master cue lol wife was pissed when i told her how much i pay for it lol and it was the cheapest cue lol £189, but what a great bit of kit, thanks john
Really interesting, I always thought snooker cues were done on a wood lathe. Does anyone else think the man looks like Bill Clinton from the side at 0:30 ?
I'm still using my good old Master Cue, hoping one day I'll afford a Parris! Although talented players can play well with a Jimmy White Riley cue from Argos anyway ;)
the amount of cues I've smashed over the years is crazy...I'm now playing with a 1 piece maple cue you usually see on the rack in a club but you know what.. it's one of the best cues I've had. only paid £3 on a market stall. some people laugh but I'm the one playing with it even made my own case for it. can't exactly put a £3 cue in a £100 case can I. btw I spent around £20 on materials for the case.
@@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff ah wow I forgot about this post...ive since had a new cue made. I treat myself a couple of years ago with a bonus from work. Still got a 1 piece cue tho.
@@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff yup, but you honestly think if you give Robertson, O’Sullivan, Higgins, Williamson etc a cheap cue that they won’t be able to play? No, of course they will still play great. That’s the proof that the thing that matters is the person, not the cue. I had a buddy who was really good at snooker and his pub trick was to beat amateurs using a broomstick that he’d take the end of and filed down slightly. Yes, he actually potted and had cue ball control with a broomstick lol
Always annoying looking at Parris benefiting from publicity like this when you have other cuemakers out there doing much better for much less money. The overall quality of the Parris cues has decreased in recent years. The current waiting time for a JP Ultimate is more than 3 years now!!! Not to mention you pay £1000 for it! This is robbery to me... I recently bought a ton Praram Series 1 cue, for £250, and goodness me, it is ten times better than my former JP Superior....
+FlyersNation98 You will have seen though the amount of time and work that goes into making once of these cues and of course without doubt, £1,000 is expensive and probably way out of reach of what most club players can or are willing to spend on a cue, but then amateurs (bar maybe the very best) aren't really the target customers here. I wouldn't have thought too many casual snooker players would even pay £250 for a cue too for that matter but you seem happy with yours and so good luck to you.
+amazed66 You're kidding. You should see the amount of orders for JP cues on my snooker forum....95% are amateurs (from all levels). Surprisingly, a lot of people are willing to pay a hefty price to get a cue done. Stamford Series 1 are starting at £730 for example, Mike Wooldridge Legend's is not less than £500 (without the extensions of course...) and Trevor White is expensive as well. Top quality cues, don't get me wrong... I know pretty well the snooker cue world and I'm very aware of the necessary time, dedication and craftsmanship to realize these cues but still, you have people doing better than this for less than a third of the price. With the big names, you also pay for the reputation of the cuemaker. A guy like Andy Travis in Sheffield could probably do you a cue for 300 bucks which would be easily, at the minimum, on par with a JPU.... Anyway, endless topic here I'm afraid :)
FlyersNation98 Yes but I would say that even as amateurs, by the very fact that you and others have joined an online snooker forum doesn't make you typical amateurs. I would imagine the vast majority of snooker players in the UK are casuals who might not even own a cue and just use what the clubs provide and only go to knock a few balls around for a couple of hours with a mate and to have a few beers whilst playing. Or if they do buy a cue will get a £30-£40 bog standard one. Yes of course their will be some amateurs who take it far more seriously than that and play several times a week and will invest in a decent cue of their own, but they are probably in the minority, as even if some buy a cue, it won't run into 3 or 4 figures. Even most amateur/recreational golfers won't pay 4 figures for a set of clubs and they might be getting around 14 or so clubs, a bag, trolley, shoes, wet suit, balls, brolly and so on and probably still don't even spend anywhere near £1,000. You are maybe inadvertently in a bit of a bubble as far as snooker is concerned, if you mix and communicate with like-minded people and there's nothing wrong with that if you all share a common interest, but it just might be a case of not everyone else who plays is quite so involved.
totally agree. My worry for those amateurs is, that they blindly buy it as its the only thing they know, and they only hear their top idols speak good of him. Fact is that for those players more service is automatic, but i've seen wrong orders go to denmark and other places. Wrong diameter, wrong length, springy feel when a lowdeflecting and less springy was asked for, all major flaws really considering that other companies do it better, and at a lower price. I cant recommend Peradon either tbh. Their cues look chinamade and careless to some degree. A full set with extentions and case for 350£ is a good price, if the cue just played like that. But saw a player order it and I refitted it with Kamui after their elkmaster was crap as always. Swampy edges etc. To the point, I saw ferrule being thinner on one side that on another, meaning the wood had been wrongfully cut, and rather than start over on a cue, u just put the ferrule on and scrape off the thicker side and thereby have a cue with one side thats superstrong, and another where its weak. I find that comical. Stamford impressed me when I tried them in singapore. Trevor White too, MW I only hear good things about. I settled with something that was very unique. Lowdeflection Mezz SnookerCue. Hope u get a chance to try it. and sorry for the rant!
omfg tell me the other cue makers who make them on machines. people like you annoy me,, you have plenty of choices to buy cues, this shop is even hidden in back street roads away from the public, he deals with professional players, but kindly opens his doors to all and treat all in a very good manner, you can try and play with any cue for long as you like in shop, something you do not get from no other shops. also he have ready made cues, then cues will be cheaper then listed as they have been tested by buyers. i no john paris has been with Ronnie in finals if cue or something goes wrong with them, how can a cue be ten times better, if the cue is not right then you do not fuking buy it lol if the cue is great and perfect how can another cue be 10 times better ?:??? it works or it does not work simple as, and the cue you mention is over £310 you do not spend over 100 on a cue that half works / nob head, so saying better tells me you did not no what you was fuking buying clueless. you had the opportunity to test any cue on the premises for as long as you like, and it takes time to find the feel,and balance and john gives you that time on his own table in shop, if you find a cue that good but no the best, he will adjust it add more weight move the weights. tuning the cue
Been playing for years , always used cues given to me or found or borrowed etc , had pure grief with 2 piece ash cues , especially ones with splicing and joints , grief over years of usage I must say , in my books one piece cues have a special feel from top to bottom , length of cue makes a lot of difference , wat is prescribed and what feels good are two different things , after years of playing it’s down to the feel of the cue in your hand and how it feels when your playing , is it consistent to your playing style , measurements weights etc don’t matter , it’s all about how it plays to your skills on the table , one piece of solid maple with a ebony butt with no splice is perfect for me as it’s solid all the way through and you feel the cue in your hands , some of these cue makers can’t even play snooker or have practice facilities wen you go to purchase one , your buying a Paris cue you have waited a year for and down the snooker club it plays like a broomstick , then what ?? Today’s day n age many cue makers out there let you practice with the cue , only means you got to travel far to get a good cue , best way to get a new cue !
If you’re playing it like a broomstick, you’re the issue.. not the cue. Stephen Hendry won 7 world titles with a £40 PowerGlide mass produced cue. It’s about the player, not the cue. Good workman never blames his tools
@@toziassmitt ok I’m the issue , must be a old issue when I’m still knocking in breaks of 100 + ! Opinions vary from person to person about cues , you assume I play it like a broomstick lol I probably do ? But I strive to still be a better player and the bottom line is you will hardly ever see a half decent player using a club cue , they will go and purchase what suits them good or bad , if all cues played the same then Ronnie would be using a club cue too , his using a parris cue though , I wonder why ?
@@zayaanzayaan9684 hilarious, so you think Ronnie couldn’t knock in a century or a max with a club cue? Players play with good cues made by makers because they support the craftsmen and John Parris is a sponsor of Ronnie. You’re nothing but a fool if you think one cue compared to another will suddenly make you magically better. The cue is the tool, you’re the player. Again, Hendry won 7 world titles with a £40 cue. That alone proves you completely wrong 😂👍🏻
So people like Alex that chopped and changed cues was doing that for a laugh you idiot , people have lost word titles because of cue faults and the way cue plays , your comments are of a Amertuer who obviously knows Fkn all about snooker and the ability of a player , so fkn wat he dry won 7 titles and wat , does that meAn any cunt can play with any cue , as for Ronnie , Iv practiced with for hours , lmao u joker u just don’t know do ya , go ask Ronnie to knock in a maxi with a club cue , I’m sure he will give u a answer which will rip your ass open ! Do people like I actually exist , fk me wat a sad cunt , swallow that u Cunt
@@zayaanzayaan9684 Ghayas Naseer @Ghayas7830- @ronnieo147 I just wanted to ask which snooker cue you are using nowadays? I mean one piece cue(which has no joint) or two/three piece cue.? Please reply, because today i had a argument about your cue. Thank you Ronnie @Ronnieo147: 1 piece but it don’t matter it’s who’s using the cue that matters more …I guess you know better than Ronnie tho, right? Ahahahaa ya shit dosser
@@davidfelix2594 i can never be a shit player. I would have to lower myself to your level which is that off an arsehole. And seeing as your lack of intelligence makes u speak what you so full of(that being shit seeing as u are an arsehole), just to point out i collect cues. I have over a hundred of the finest cues you ever saw let alone played with so dont fucking tell me whats good with regards to cues you arsehole
@@wierdalien1 parris know which side his brear is buttered and pays special attention to pros. Doesnt mean he pays anywhere near as much attention to the other cues he makes. I have seen shocking splicework on parris cues. I have seen better shafts on thai machine made cues. As with anything in this world brand snobbery counts more than actual value
Can someone answer me this please - without swearing, preferably ! Now, I know very little about woodwork, and I'm sure this guy is a skilled craftsman. But he was planing the cue straight-on, at school I was always taught to hold the plane at an angle, supposedly it gives a cleaner cut - it slices rather than rasps. Like I say, I've no doubt he know what he's doing, but I'm genuinely interested in the techniques involved.
When i first started playing pool competitively this lad used to hustle with a broomstick. A good player can play with any cue. But if you're playing for 100K++ 2K is nothing.
Hahaha I watched again and counted and never even noticed until your comment and when I watched I'm thinking wow that's really strange and I never noticed before
I have a classic burwat champion , wouldn't exchange it for no other cue , Iv used a jp i. the past but the dollars he charges are taking the piss, other cue makers out there are to the same standard or better but peradon are the oldest cue makers so they have the experiance and know how , my burwat plays like a dream and in the past players like alex and reardon have used the burwat to win world championships , as for hendry I think he had a tex Williams of the shelf cue , cost a score note and won 7 world titles lol , work that one out ????
The problem with Parris Cues is that the best cues goes to the top pro's. Ive tried 4 parris', 2 from older era and 2 from the new. The 2 new ones felt like broomsticks, the older ones i made 100breaks with. Sadly. I have a Mezz Snooker Cue now, and for what it is, (a first attempt and successful at that i must say for a poolcuecompany) The cue rivals most of the ash traditional cues, and even surpasses quite alot of them. Low deflection and powerful on its shot. U have to try it :) ! It is made in Maple though, but that just helps avoid the annoying beard-ripping ;) so its all good!
+Daniel Kandi would never buy a jp cue , rip off at the end off the day iv picked up many vintage cues that play like a dream , every player has his own style , some cues are suited to a certain style some are not , I also have a peradon king cue , bought from thurstons , suits my game down to a tee, well built with pedigree ! if a player is able and has a sweet cue action you should experiment with cheap cues Aswell as top end ones or vintage ones , you will be surprised at the results !
I like how they cut out all the parts where they use machines to do the work, and only show the few seconds of actual "hand working" as if it's all done by hand. over priced name brand bullocks.
Remember visiting john Parris in 1996 for purchasing my ‘ambassador cue’ feels like just yesterday. Old memories. Cue was a little bent at the tip end. John assured it does not make any difference to your cueing.
@@toziassmitt not really my cue is a little bent after my bridge and it made little to no difference to my game. it has to have a serious bend to make a substantial difference
@@karma6171 totally wrong. If your game was bad to begin with, maybe it makes no difference. If you have a serious game, any change to the cue will make a big difference. Go ask Judd trump or Hendry if you can bend their cue and see if it will affect play 🤦🏼♂️ this really is the most dumb comment I’ve seen in a while
@@toziassmitt hendry won his WC with a bent cue so you take title for most dumb comment and the fact that i speakin from experience and yeah im not as good as them but i play pool for scotland so im not just your average player
@@karma6171 you take title for most incoherent reading. I said any CHANGE to your cue. Yes Hendry won the world titles with a slight bend in his cue, but it was always there since he bought it. He was used to the bend since the first day he started playing. Take any pro snooker player, bend their cue, and it will affect their game. In time, they will get used to it. They will adjust, and it will be fine. Bends in cue affect everything, largely deflection and squirt. If you don’t realise that, frankly you’re just an amateur. Also… pool? I mean, come on. We’re talking snooker here. Not the game you play drunk in the pub on a Friday on a kiddie sized table. If you don’t play snooker, it’s time to pipe down. You can play pool without even having a good cue action, you could probably play pool with a broomstick. I mean really, get real
The wood which goes in ronnies cue, the tip , the rubber holder, the filler any small or big things which goes into a world class player cue is not the same which we can buy.. they are special made and selected by the owner themselves and not like the other mass produced cues..
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Ha. I'm surprised. I expected more. A lot more technology is involved with pool cues. Like hollowed shaft, spliced shafts, made from spiralling triangle pieces, etc.
Try the Mezz Snookercue for that. 6 piece laminated maple lowdeflection shaft. Its only downfall is the lack of veneers and splicings, BUT, and its a huge but, the cue plays sooo true. Must try
sounds like crap, same with guitars, old guitars vs new guitar technology.. i prefer the old traditional way real wood solidy made from one piece of would... but now you get alot of laminated guitars and stuff which is rubbish to me.
Not really the same thing. You can't deny that technology improves things. Maybe you like the older style, but that doesn't mean it functions better. When talking about deflection, it's basic physics. A cue that bends easier has lower deflection. A hollowed and spliced cue bends easier. Ergo, a more technologically advanced cue has lower deflection. Lower deflection means better accuracy.
You are wrong by comparing guitars to cues. I know that because I make music, and i know acoustics shouldnt be sacrificed like they do in some areas of the one ur talking about. But a cue thats laminated is not necessarily crap. "Sounds like crap" , spoken like crap when you havent tried it. So try it before judging it. Fact is, lowdeflection is the future of more precise hitting. Mezz makes both high and lowdeflecting shafts so those who want a traditional hit can get it, and us that want more innovative hits can have laminated. But let me Stress, that their snookershaft is the ONLY pie-laminated shaft they have. I play with their Wx700 shaft for pool, and that one is 1 piece maple, with all the tech inside the ferrule. So yea. Dont make it sound like im one of the predatorcuelovers that only love pielaminated cues. It is about the HIT. Not how its made.
Dragos Puri well f*ckin' said :D Predatorcues were fantastic when made in canada/US, but they are not the same now as they are made in china, so thats where it died for me. So thats the only place i can compare with the laminated guitars. Every company moving production to china are missing a trick. Not that they are all bad, but for cues, it just cant give the same trademark hit. The same reason Carlsberg or Cocacola taste worse in some countries. Thai snookercues are often brilliant and their tech is much the same as its always been, just with cheaper workforce, plus probably cheaper wood. But it's all preference. I just hate when people knock on new tech without having tried it!
