How Poland's New Rifle will OUTMATCH their Enemy 

Just wanted to say that fabryka broni means gun factory

Interesting fact: GROT are now being tested in Russia Belgogrod region, "partizans" on photos and videos are using GROTs

Nice material, I'm surprised you've managed to gather so much accurate information about the MSBS Grot and its development. The one thing I can't agree on is issuing the rifle to Terytorial forces "WOT". They are nothing more as weekend warriors that have nothing to offer but bodies taking away resources from career soldiers. Those soldiers should get the new rifles as they can offer real feedback on using them compared to older rifles. And the old equipment should be shipped to WOT as its easier to use and its more 'idiot proof'. Also in WOT there are many good experienced officers from the regular army that know this equipments ins and outs. Do not mistake Polish WOT formation for better trained formations of the same status that operate in Ukraine forces. Its just easy money for a weekend and thats the majority of the soldiers there. Also the goverment uses them as a simple PR stunt funneling resources into them that would be better spent elswhere like the mentioned real soldiers that did the job before it was 'cool' and a lot less profitable.

in my day they taught us how to sheer of the fnc1a1's certain pin so you could take that weapon and turn it intoa fully automatic weapon being gas powered wiht a max range of a mile you'd need serious bracing to fire like that but hey dont fuck with canada we'll get you at range good sniper and enjoy

Nice video 👌 could you make a video about the Polish Beryl assault rifle, please 🙏

Lol, we have exactly the same joke in Poland about a worker of Fabryka Broni. The practice of using dual-purpose factories producing military and civilian equipment at the same time was common in the Eastern Bloc countries. It started in the USSR. Therefore I imagine that this joke exists in most countries of the former Eastern Bloc.

@@kamilszadkowski8864 True story... Old "Łucznik" :D Both sewing machines and machine guns...

This joke is well known in all Warsaw Pact countries

Or the joke could also go that ... a worker set out to make a sewing machine and ended up making one that only made uniforms.

The worker puts the final small part on and steps back to look at the machine he spent weeks assembling saying, "Well, that doesn't look right."... It was a machinegun, and the last part was just the forward sight. He was so sure it would come together in the end. He shrugs, "I guess I got a new hunting rifle."

Poor selection. Guy lost the war.

​@@pewneosoby2108 someone could say an honorable defeat is better than an unhonorable victory. That said, Poland is still here, Germany is still here, but the third Reich has gone.

@@marcotolomio5269 This 'someone' must be crazy. No - soldier one and only duty is to win and do everything to make his country independed. By force, trickery or treason. There is no such thing as 'honorable defeat'. Defeat is ALWAYS dishonor.

​@@pewneosoby2108 i don't know man, i m italian, and i m glad italy lost ww2, since we were on the wrong side (at least at the beginning). Democracy in Italy is a thing because we lost the war. So, it's winning always the best end? I don't think so.

@@marcotolomio5269 The thing is - occupant can be domestic. Totalitarian government is no different from foreign occupant. Hence in this case it was a victory. Poland was occupied by russians and 'domestic' totatlitarian occupant.

It seems you dont have much to be proud of

Bro your family was living in worst called city in poland by poles

You have plenty reason to be proud of Polish heritage. I owned a Radom Vis 35 and it really was "bullet-proof" - firing any 9mm ammo, including SMG-only cartridges, without a hiccup!

@@kentonbrown937 i said radom is called worst city in poland never said that i am not proud about being polish remember we are always developing weapons to counter out neigbour ones

@@bardzo_normalna_nazwa2837 Tbh my grandma did get mugged there when visiting relatives and did not like it. That’s ok, hopefully pre WW2 and pre Warsaw pact it was a lot nicer.

Thank you brother, we shall stay tall and strong, and hopefully we won't become new Julius Caesar.

Poland has never done anything for these friends. Heck, you even attacked the surviving jews in the concentration camps in 1945.

@@aon10003 Wiesz, co to jest kłamstwo oświęcimskie? To przestępstwo, które właśnie popełniłeś.

​​​@@trycyklall I had to do was look up "polish violence against jews post ww2" and yall committed like 4 different massacres against jews lmao my source is the Simon Wiesenthal center, whats funny is the Simon Wiesenthal Center article on the subject actually talks about how Poles and the Polish government to this day deny they ever committed genocidal actions against the Jews or that Poles were Compliant with the Holocaust (even though we have evidence of Polish men in Einsatsgruppen units and evidence of Polish leaders actively assisting the Nazi government)

​@@aon10003yuuup, whats funny is the polish dude who responded to you actually played right into what the Jews have called Poland out for, straight up denying they had anything to do with the holocaust or anti Semitic acts

They just don't trust Germany... AT ALL for their security...

You feel correctly.

national security is still best prepped by the nation, the article 5 is just a safety net... you might never know if it will implode

​@@PrograError and nothing in article 5 mandates other nations actually send troops to fight..

​@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 as a Polish person all i have to say is YES

Most common translation is "Home Army", at least that's the one i heard the most. Feels like a very British way to translate, they're the ones calling the country "home". But, yours is more literal and technically accurate than that.

Drugim ważnym zajęciem Armii Krajowej było pełnienie funkcji niejako policji państwa podziemnego. Zdrajcy byli karani przez Armię Krajową. Ratowała ona także Żydów od holocaustu. O tym świat jakby chyba zapomniał! Polacy to wogóle jeden z najbardziej przyjaznych narodów świata. Polacy mają najwięcej tytułów " sprawiedliwy wśród narodów świata", choć za ratowanie Żydów w Polsce groziła kara śmierci w innych krajach nie. Na przykład we Francji codziennością było nie ratowanie ale wydawanie Żydów Niemcom. Polska stworzyła pod okupacją państwo podziemne, którego zbrojnym ramieniem była wspomniana wcześniej Armia Krajowa.

@@wojtekmakuch4116 W Polsce też istnieli sąsiedzi, którzy wydawali Żydów Niemcom za pieniądze i ukrywający się Żydzi musieli na nich uważać aby się o nich zbyt dużo osób nie dowiedziało. Za wydanie była kara śmierci.

Wow this should be a Snapple fact 0.0 Poland is the best

I think it’s named after an arrow head.

God bless and save you!!! From Poland-Warsaw.

I think A1 variant was for sale in US but it was only 100 rifles.

@@slavkopolskiperun5358we are with you Poland! Much respect to you!!! 🇵🇱 🇺🇸

I hope you are not excommunicated from the US for not immediately yelling bullpup and AR-15 whenever the subject of a battle rifle comes up.

ale na pewno wiesz jeśli jesteś żołnierzem aby broń działała dobrze trzeba onia dbać ja sam miałem tylko doczynienia z polską odmiana AK w armi

As the songwriter once said "They stole my whole fucking flow"

A bit like the ar18, it never was really adopted but the basic design was used in many service rifles.

Poland used the ACR for a good while (I think they still might in some units) in their army arsenal and took a good bit of inspiration from it when creating the GROT. Improving where it lacked.

Looks similar to the Robinson XCR too.

Every rifle wants to evolve into the metaphorical crab that is the ACR.

U have right bro.

Advantage? That’s why they have been divided and wiped off the map 3 times…. It is advantage for us, coz we can use them against the 🐻 like we currently using Ukrainians.

@@bfg762 Advantage in that they can see the writing on the walls and prepare for the inevitables. The decline of the west, and hostility from Russia. Hence why they have been actively sure-ing up their defences and building key industry for their national economy. They're also avoiding the path of communism and the identity politics exported from america, both of which are plaguing the west right now and a primary cause of the aforementioned decline

Not that unique. Many nato countries are post warsaw pact

This is probably why I love to insult both left and right

were the old AK 7,62 or 5,45? Also i have to say, the GROT looks really identical to the American ACR rifle

The last time our government designed a rifle It turned out to be worst assault rifle in human history I don't know how they can fail inspite of having all the resources and technology required for making a rifle

@@nobeltniumthe beryl rifle was actually in 5.56, although export versions exist in 7.62

@@nobeltnium 5.56, Unless you mean OLD old AK, which was 7.62

Szymuś, jakie wojsko? Czynny żołnierz od 3 miesięcy, czy 3 miechy i koniec?

Awesome!

How are the iron sights? Is qualification out to 300 meters reasonably easy and sight picture fast? Having a very good optic is great, but less-good optics are less-great. There's always the chance of mud smeared on a lense, too.

Yes, tell us more about it

Of course you are

@@linds6609 Yes actually….

Unfortunately, Germans killed the entire Polish intelligentsia including engineers: this set back Poland for many decades. Not too many people know that it was 3 Polish engineers who first broke the Enigma code and also built a replica of the original machine, just to pass it to the French and British who let Poland down

​@@franktuminski8460 nie zesraj się mamy nadal świetnych inżynierów

@@jacekfree8060 Listen to me primitive: I have relatives and many friends who graduated from Warsaw Politechnika and some became professors, but it took some time to replace the older generation. and this makes a big difference.

@@franktuminski8460 ok primtive we live in Poland not in Hameryka

@@jacekfree8060 I was born, educated, and living in Poland. My family still is living in Warsaw or another part of Mazovia. I hold dual citizenship because of my love for the country of my birth. Unfortunately, I see that some Poles like you are not very bright

As a Polish citizen - i don’t sleep so well…

@@Zero-jx2hf I can understand that wholeheartedly, hope things quiet down quickly

ahahahahahahahaha you can feel safe but when was the last time the Polish military took part or won any kind of conflict ????

@@rallyauto34 they have the people the money and the weapons, more than russia thats for sure🤷🏻‍♂️

@@rallyauto34 Poland fought two only two major wars in 20th century and it won polish soviet war in 1920s, defeating USSR. It took part in several more conflicts like in Iraq for example.

Mieliśmy druga po Ameryce konstytucję na świecie.

@@robertklimczak5630 Artykuły Henrykowskie, będące zapisem praw obywatelskich, były ustanowione nawet przed konstytucją amerykańską i 3 Maja.

@@jaroslawpeter3586 Artykuły henrykowskie w żaden sposób nie wypełniają ram trójpodziału władzy ani żadnych oświeceniowych idei (bo takie jeszcze długo nie powstały)i xD To zwykły kodeks dla monarchy, którego ma przestrzegać z łaski wpływowej szlachty innego wyznania. Poza tym "obywatelami" byli tylko szlachcice a nie zwykli chłopi

@@robertklimczak5630 Mieliśmy pierwszą. To były tak zwane Artykuły Henrykowskie.

@@wojciechleonsuchoparte1028 Bo nie musiały gdyż trójpodział władzy praktycznie istniał w Polsce od bardzo dawna. Amerykańska konstytucja też nie czyniła obywatelami wszystkich bo pomijała murzynów chińczyków i innych "pariasów", a w Zjednoczonym Królestwie kobiety uzyskały pełnię praw obywatelskich dopiero w 1928r.

gotta get those style points

It's mostly because setups are mission/role specific. You're given what you need, no more no less.

@@SharpForceTrauma id say the choice between bullpup or traditional setup should be up to individual soldier, they are wasting the most unique characteristic of this rifle by restricting people from making use of it.

@@Asghaad But but but what about cute parades where all those marionets must look the same?

​@@Asghaad or more importantly, what if the bullpup configuration is actually way worse a rifle, assuming it works at all? They wouldn't want you to know untill its too late right? Sure it might still have its uses, but its probably worse for normal use of the rifle.

Polska rozwija się dzięki obecnemu rządowi to Tusk likwidował Polski przemysł i armie

Germany on one side. Russia the other. They don't stand a chance. Poland are not a nation, they are a battle field.

@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 germany is litteraly in ue and nato bro, if theres a war, we fighting in belarus territory

@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 dude why would Poland and Germany fight?

@@jackowsky86 well as the man above said Poland and Germany are allies so they wouldn't necessarily fight each other but Germany may very well fight Russia on Polish land. Its not a matter of if, it's when

That proud is nosense... (I'm not a rusky fanboy, don't call me suka)

@@diidac17 tfk is ur problem

@@pushek7865 just be careful about the proud you feel for one flag

we have the best history outta here and we helped everyone in ww2 though our country didnt exist and tf u mean@@diidac17

@@diidac17 Who are you to tell them that?

too bad none of it is even remotely accurate.. but rather fan fiction

Actually, where were quite some issues found during this "field exercise". And afaik all of them are already fixed in the model year 2023 Grots. So yeah, the experience they got was definitely invaluable.

@@idioluh5838 Now, as opposed to say, Vietnam where the M-16 platform was being used, the data collection and turn around time to fixing design issues is nearly instantaneous. If the Russians are going to lose, it's not because they're "stupid," it's because the speed of fixing problems is just so ridiculous. Think about just this one thing: They're un-pallatized. Seriously. They load sh.t out of boxes. Un-real. They had a dozen conflicts to get that game together and a continent full of trees.

​@@BaronEvola123 Everything you said is true for the Russians as well

​@@galoobigboi including the losing part 😂😂, might as well rename it to "blue square"

​@@galoobigboi Including making a "modern" "undetectable" missile that got intercepted and the people who designed it were thrown in the Gulag? Yeah, I guess Russia is pretty advanced in that field

good to hear that bro. Lov from real Poland ;)

HAhaha. Not as silly as you may think. In most games Poland is set to be targeted by its neighbours as that is what has been happening constantly over the course of history. Feeling sorry for the little guy is quite normal. Although at one point Poland was not such a small guy at all ;)

Germany and Russia never really let Poland achieve it's potential. Their time has arrived.

There were some ingenious projcets like own-based BAR version (Rkm wz. 28), similar to FN High-Power pistol (Vis wz. 35) and low-calibre but high energy anti-tank rifle (kb ppanc wz. 35), also numerous planes or tanks/tankettes. Also Józef Maroszek designed an semi-automatic rifle (kbsp wz. 38M), which was one of the earliest semiauto rifle meant for typical soldier. Unfortunetly producion of prototypes started not so long before II World War.

Also the really inventive semi auto rifle that's held together by a single pin. That gun was covered by Ian from Forgotten Weapons and was bought by the Polish goverment for their museum.

@@chrishooge3442 poland "achieved" its potential and for its crimes russia punished it.. Poland has tried its hand and played foolishly. Polish cry over their own crimes. They should look to the future.. If thry change their mindset and cooperate with eachother they have potential to do very well in the next 40 years

@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 What the f are you talking about? Are you another nazi russian bot? EDIT: Yes, I checked, its another brainwashed or paid bot. No more conversation with you because it's pontless. Feel bad for you tho...

Yes, we've learned our lesson from 1st September 1939

@@sierp13pl Yup, and the lesson is Britain and France can’t be counted on.

It will never happen again since they are in NATO, this is just straight up paranoia

Leading army for sure. British, French and others have the air/water.

@@samdherring Bro split.

i think its still pretty crazy how many guys go to war just because they are told to go.

I'd be almost wary of any rifle that didn't have that kind of period. If anyone claimed a gun was perfect on introduction, I wouldn't want that one to bet my life on.

One hundred percent right.. only not every country has such Onet or TVN serving Germany and discrediting the domestic product at all costs. Look at the opposition politicians, especially the Civic Platform which the development of Polish companies and their competition with German, French is not convenient. what did Poncilius say? why do we need GROTs, K2 or Apache if you can buy it in Germany.. And after that, there will be no war anyway.The Germans' approach to Polish is shown by Leo 2. Poland buys parts and comes scrap twisted from old leopards.. Very often under the rust are completely destroyed bands.. Such an ally is.. worse than the enemy.

A bit like Elon's boomy rocket science, really.

It doesn't give the real picture. Prior to huge contracts for rifles, polish news website realesed a "test" that author briefly mentions. The test was obviousky biased used A0 Grot version while the field tests were already done on A1 and A2 was close to leave design desk. Another release of such a test preceded a huge public tender for rifles in Ukraine before the war. There similar thing was done to polish artillery production when Germans demanded from Poland to set the service for german artillery next to polish factory. Imagine your direct competitors having access to your factory... Luckily both artillery and rifles are proven to be well designed and efficient in Ukraine.

Love you guys. From poland

And CZ too...

Yes.

This carabiner is insane

"Looks dope" ......... Easy for *you* to say. I can't imagine anyone trying to paint it onto the fabric of Biplanes to shrink and strengthen it.

What’s the MW2019 version called? The Kilo141 or something? That’s the vibe I get from this and that’s a sexy looking weapon.

Well, polish special forces spoke highly of the ACR and I'm pretty sure some of them used them during Afghanistan. So they most likely wanted to implement some of its ergonomics and features.

butter_warrior, you're forgeting the FN SCAR and a lot of influences that were based on the german HK G-36 rifles and carbines

Yes, but full name is weapons factory bow-man. Fabryka broni Łucznik 2 Fun fact: they also make locks mounted on door and they become brand-name in Poland, like Pampers means one time use diaper.

Having as the neighbors russ and germs, two most aggressive nations in the Europe history does Poland have an other choice??...

​@@tomjakob3234 i really would not call Germany the most aggressive neighbour in history. They were basically the punching bag for France since ever. Also there was no Germany before the 19th century

@@masterchief-vd1xs And I would my friend cause the first aggressive invasion of the Teuton tribes to the Roman Empire including Balcans, Iberia and Gaul (today's France) took place at l- st century B.C. over two thousand one handed years ago. Sins that time the German tribes ancestors called Saxons Brandenburgs, Teutons, Prussians, Germans etc. have never stopped. Now seems they have a break, but it's not the end I'm afraid. That's why I didn't write 'aggressive countrys' but 'aggressive nations'.

@@tomjakob3234 well first I would not go back over 2000 years in time. Because by this standard the italians and greek are the most brutal and oppressing countries. Also note that the Germanic tribes are not really Germans. They are part of their ancestors yes, but nothing more. I mean 30% of the nowadays Germans have also slavic gens. The Germans are just a melting pot of central European tribes. The last part is just pure racism and anti German prpaganda. Great job 👍

This is a matter of necessity. Poland doesn't have good experiences with Russia or its allies coming to timely aid in a case of a war.

Please request review South African weapons.

The cartels traffick both human adults and children, they traffick narcotics that murder 10,000s of USA citizens and turn many more into slaves/zombies…..they need to be liquidated and USA collaborators need to be charged abetting terrorists…..the Roman Catholic Church rapes thousands of USA children they also need to be labeled as terrorists

"And then the next day a few weeks later" I think my infantryman went into a coma.

Grot name is not from Arrow but from Stefan Rowecki aka Grot. Military General from WWII.

recent events cast doubt on your statements. Wagner and the Airborne Forces conduct more operations at night in the same Artemovsk

Ok same shit

​@@lukabrdar6732 nope, Tantal is way cooler 😉

@@lukabrdar6732 Nope. Just look at the burst mechanism.

And Nigeria jumped into beryl a month ago

Maybe not jump but rather crawl :(

Also, GROT was delivered to WOT, for actual field testing to gather user data.

Both of you are right, but another, perhaps the main reason was to reduce the costs. Initially WOT (TDF) was supposed to gwt Beryls and then reequip in 2-3 years, but that would make no economical sense, so Grot was kinda rushed in with the contract being written in a way that three first upgrades (so until A3) will be done for free by FB. A3 is in the making now.

The WOT makes a LOT more sense as a field-test than Specialist units within a Regular Army! Who is more likely to _create_ problems, (1) an experienced, capable, self-confident Private in a command with minimal supervision, or (2) a Special Forces Sergeant?

Another reason to provide WOT with new rifles was purely organisational. The plan was (and still is) to equip the WHOLE Polish Army with Grots, means that every soldier needs to be trained to use it. If WOT was given the old rifles, in short time they would have to be trained again with Grots anyway. Not only would it double the instructors' work, but also the members are not full time soldiers and their time is limited, so it's just reasonable to have the rifle training done ONCE and then focus on another topics.

It was partially to ease training ,as WOT recruits been training from start on MSBS platform while , regular Army been trained already for decades on AK/Beryl. So with WOT first you get less of “changing of habits inertia” in training , like you will get with AK/Berly trained users of Reg. Army. Looking on numbers ordered so far Polish Forces will be fully MSBS equipped in less then a decade (if current trends stay the same) Hopefully other countries forces will select MSBS Grot as it standard rifle, as it is excellent and very competitively priced design.

Don't lump the C7 in with the M4 please?

the C7 is just a slight improvement of the old M-16 and as some others have pointed out the Grot is actually pretty similar to the ACR which is superior to both the M4 and C7.

​@@arthas640 True,but the C- 7 is better.

I mean the USMC are already using M27 IAR (hk416) to replace their m4s

But you should protect them using plasma nitriding first :)

Competent and second in size but never trusted as East Germans for example.

*were untill a russian spy became head of defense 👍

he's retired so he doesn't have anything better to do lol nah just kidding it was nice of him to help out

Gonna wait for the A3 or maybe A4 to hit the civilian market. Should be mint by then.

@@kajetandziebaj6405 that's right, I am sure that defenders of Ukraine have been providing some combat feedback in regard to MSBS riffles they have been using in thousands, to Fabryka Broni.

Z powodu niskiego budżetu na armię.,większość projektów przed produkcja jest bardzo długo testowanych. I trwało to bardzo wolno . Teraz pieniądze płyną szerokim strumienie, budowane są nowe fabryki a stare mają wreszcie 100% mocy produkcyjnych zajęte. Przykład,Niemcy mają skynex my też mamy podobny 35mm lecz na pojeździe. Testowany.

Thats pretty standard. The US did much the same refining the M-16 (itself a rush prototype) into the M16A1 and later M4, all the while producing and testing replacements like the ACR and SCAR. We've seen the issues that come about from poorly tested guns, especially ones that arent tested in the field like French Chauchat which couldnt handle dirt, sand, and mud with it's original magazine but was thrown into the trenches and was in part designed for the deserts and jungles of France's colonies, or like the aforementioned original M-16 which was sent into the jungles when it handled humidity and dirt poorly and wasnt sent with enough trained users or maintenance equipment.

@@arthas640 Except development of MSBS took almost two decades xD

@@piotrd.4850 That's pretty standard. Sometimes weapons get developed really fast if they're an update or alteration to an existing rifle, the M-4 took almost no time to develop since it started out as a carbine version of the M-16 (originally the CAR-15) that was customized a bit and turned into the early M4. The M-16 took around 14 years to develop and they made some improvements after it first saw combat so that was around 14 years of design and development plus 3 years of combat to get us the M16A1 that was popular for so long. It's really funny seeing Russia, a supposed top notch military pre-Ukraine war when it comes to their battle rifles. The took massive inspiration from the STG-44 to make their AK-47 and aside from some basic upgrades like replacing wood with plastics they haven't changed a ton since the 40s and 50s while other countries like China and the UK have gone from bolt action to semi auto to selective or full auto assault rifles to bull pup rifles as technology changed. A lot of their tech has stagnated and they seem to increasingly rely on copying foreign designs and ideas, importing it, or pretending that largely cosmetic changes are the same thing as improvements.

Polish army motto is actually "God, Honour, Fatherland", so at least they have that as defense.

@@UssurinThankfully it also is becoming inappropriate

Yes, brass is strong in our army. To the point that some NCOs discouraged left-handed soldiers from changing the ejection side...

In one of the interviews of Eugene Stoner somewhere on RU-vid, Stoner argued that regular soldiers should have minimal easy adjustments on their rifles. He said that nervous soldiers tend to fiddle with dials and knobs.

@@legitplayin6977 lol how? XD

A nation "committed to democracy" wouldn't be denied an opportunity to voice its opinion in general elections and these were already delayed twice.

@@gratius1394 lol what are you talking about xd

@@mistewiczjakub2275 Hmm, I was pretty sure that Polish elections were delayed for a year two times. I guess I was wrong. EDIT: Sorry, it was about regional elections, not general. My bad.

Poland is barely a democracy at best

Gradius! … demokracja w Polsce od zakończenia lIWŚ nie była jeszcze w tak dobrej kondycji jak dzisiaj! Wyluzuj i wyłącz lewackie media😜

One thing I've noticed on Twitter is that the Russian propagandists *love* to suggest that Poland wants to take eastern Ukrainian territory. The Russians realize that Poland is one of Ukraine's best allies and desperately want to put a wedge between them.

Feel free to visit Poland. I've met a lot volunteers from USA here.

@@vattghern257 Thinking about it 🙂

Admire from distance We are not country, we are a nation, of true organic kind.

Poland and Ukraine were parts of the same crown till Moscow grabbed it as from 1648

"Łucznik still produces sawing machines that can be bought at store shelfs" - It's not Łucznik anymore. Łucznik doesn't exist. During its liquidation, it sold rights to many things, including "circle 11" and "Łucznik" brands.

@@randomnobodovsky3692 I'm pretty sure the Łucznik was a package brand-factory and the factory was just so unworkable that it was vlosed down and salvaged into new factory. But I was pretty young at the time, so maybe I'm mixing it up. Well, the brand is still on the shelfs.

Cool! People forget how important sewing machines are!

​@@Ussurin So it means it is not the same Lucznik, same producer and same factory, or? Many people tend to believe "it was not all wrong during socialism" lots of good stuff and factories we have built" - bullshyt, most of them their machines, workers, products, planning were unusable. And new investors (or ex-managers who robbed own company) created new production, production lines, so as new know-how, work process, people and mostly quality control.

@@palohagara105 well, it's really depends on what you believe it to be "a factory". Legally speaking bulding and machines have nothing to do with being the same factory as it's purely legalistic concept. As for the commie stuff, I agree 100%.

except indebted horribly

​@@Szymek25 zobacz ile jest długu do PKB. Wtedy się wypowiedz. Dług polski będzie rosnac po to by była Polska. A I zobacz długi do PKB innych krajów.

​@@robertklimczak5630 jeśli dług Polski będzie rosnąć to po to by była 'żydowska' :-\

false

Russian bomb dropped in Poland and nobody knew for like a year

Don't worry. You have the British as allies and you can always rely on us to act fast when our allies are in trouble. :'(

Im all for poland protecting themselves but its starting to look a bit like an authoritarian government going insane on military spending.

@@Ukraineaissance2014 "preppers" always look insane until SHTF. And then they look like the sanest people around.

@@Ukraineaissance2014 If we had Russia & Bellorus on the doorstep .... With their History I'd want that spend *TREBELLED*

@@Ukraineaissance2014 You call these socialists an authoritarian government? xD

Poland’s current government is our great blessing. The opposition are all traitors. They would sell Poland out for a bottle of beer. Our current ruling party chairman Mr. Kaczyński, would give his life for Poland. That’s the difference.

Yeah current government... If the previous government would be in charge now, there would be no Ukraine, because they were on a German leash and we all so how keen Germans were to help Ukrainians before Polish government embarrassed them to do it. I know you love your girlfriend but she doesn't know shit about geopolitics. Saying that the current government is shit, yet still much lesser ever than the previous one.

Problemy z rządem ma tylko lewactwo które zepsuje każdy kraj np. Wielką Brytanię Francję ,Niemcy. Jeśli rządy w Polsce obejmie tzw "opozycja demokratyczna " to Polska pogrąży się w stagnacji jak reszta krajów starej Unii

We do not have a good political system in Poland, but it is better than the opposition, especially the left-wing one. Anyway, the Polish left wanted to destroy the project of this rifle many times. Only because the current party ordered many pieces of this rifle for the Polish army. And because the current party in Poland supports the project of this rifle. They were not interested in Poland's interest, only their profit

@@zhangzy123 stary czas skończyć te przepychanki PiS PO. Żadna z tych partii nie działa na korzyść polski.... Wciąż większość ludzi myśli że jedyną alternatywą dla pisu jest po a to nie prawda i trzeba to zmienić. To się nie uda podczas jednej kadencji ale stopniowo partie alternatywne muszą zdobywać coraz większe wpływy. Moja ulubiona teoria spiskowa wygląda tak że właściwie po o PiS grają w tej samej drużynie i jest to jedna ta sama władza XD beka ale pomyśl o tym. za rządów po chyba najbardziej krytykowaną przez PiS zmianą którą wprowadziło po było wprowadzenie tzw umów śmieciowych, ale czy po dojściu PiS do władzy coś z tym zrobili? Nie, śmieciówki są nada i mają się dobrze, pomimo że PiS je tak strasznie krytykował. W drugą stronę, jedną z najbardziej krytykowanych decyzji PiSu było 500+ i napoczątku po mówiło że muszą wygrać żeby skończyć z rozdawnictwem, ale już tak nie mówią, już chcą nawet podnieść. Takich przykładów można mnożyć jak zaczniesz się dopatrywać, i ciągle podgrzewają atmosferę swoimi kłótniami drarzliwymi komtrowersyjnymi tematami i aferami aby odwrócić nasz wzrok od żeczy istotnych i nas skłócić, spolaryzować społeczeństwo, bo dla obojga tych partii jest to na rękę i robią to wspólnie celowo. Jedna partia przegnie pałe i ludzie mają dość to wybierana zostaje druga która nie naprawia błędów poprzedniej bo są dla nich na korzyść a potem oni powoli przeginają pałe aż wybiorą tamtych i tak w kółko od 20 lat XD W to możesz nie wierzyć, to taka moja teoria pół żartem pól serio. Ale w to że można odsunąć PiS od władzy nie wybierając PO uwierz proszę, to mówię na serio, bo żadna z tych partii nie da Polsce godnej przyszłości na która naprawdę zasługujemy. A tematy typu papież tupolew i geje budzą najwięcej emocji dlatego po i PiS tak często się nimi zajmują, abyśmy nie myśleli o tym co naprawdę istotne dla Polski. Jak(?) Lubisz pis to zainteresuj się ile kopalni zamknięto za ich rządów a tak głośno mówią że wspierają polski węgiel i górnictwo, jedną kopalnię chciała kupić niemiecka korporacja i wydobywać w niej węgiel bo obliczyli że się im opłaca, PiS nie sprzedał i jeszcze wydał kasę żeby ją zasypać tak aby już się z niej węgla wydobyć nie dało, i jak to ma się do ostatniego kryzysu i tego co nam mówią. Sprawdź sam.

zawsze na usługi obcych 😂 nawet na terytorium innym Słowian co jest niewybaczalne

Yeah, arming process - and again only against Russia, as most cases in history. Incredibly rich and large country/nations, who still has not enough. Sometimes with syphillitic paranoid rulers, like Lenin. Let's hope only armament and preparation will be enough to stop them, preventing a new World War III start.

Tragically, they got rolled before they could get the good stuff to troops in sufficient quantity. They aren't making that mistake again.

England and France also got rolled in 1940 with their "world class " weapons after preparing for a year for the Germans .

@@petesheppard1709 It was not a mistake, it was the tragedy of poor country, which has suffered Russian, Austro-Hungarian and Prussian partition and colonisation, then got completely demolished during WW1, and three years after finally gaining back the independence got invaded again by Soviet Russia. It then took the Poles less than 20 years to build quite impressive army and arms industry from scratch, but which country in the world would be able to withstand the simultaneous invasion by Nazi Germany and USSR in September 1939?

@@xniorvox So true; in 1939, Poland just ran out of time. THIS TIME, you are hardening before a threat becomes overwhelming.

@@petesheppard1709 didnt stop them from biting a chunk out of Czechoslovakia in 1938 ... oh the irony of them getting steamrolled by Wehrmacht in Czech tanks they themselves helped to deliver to the Germans is just pure gold ...

"I don't trust almost anyone, let alone the Germans." -Józef Piłsudski

what do you mean competition? was it meant for export? and yeah, both things can be true at the same time. teething problems, but also that.

@Redmanticore it's rather obvious that sooner or later, such stuff is offered for export and then becomes a competition for Germans. Why would they care about that if it wasn't a threat to their industry? Germans are cheeky c...ts which they showed very clearly especially since the invasion of russia.

​@@Redmanticore bro xD maby for u german are friends. For us they are partners. Why they dont want our nuclear power farm? In the central of pur country but they didnt complain about french nuclear power farm 10milef from their borders? They dont want green enerygy or what? :D Do u know H&K wanted to bid for a new weapon fo polish army? And in the same time they faked tests of Grot? Yea, they want to take care of us. Like always when they can earn money on that.

@Młody PiSowiec Ha, ha, ha! You honestly believe that???