How Riding An E Scooter Is ILLEGAL In The UK... Unless You Rent!? 

UK Gov: you will own nothing and be happy

When we have flying cars one day.. Scooters will still be illegal.. 😂😂😂

Simple answer. Paint your scooter the same colour as one of these companies that hires them out.

That is blatantly saying "You cannot own one, you have to give your money to someone else if you wish to ride one". That's like we're in a dictatorship.

So privately cleaning my scooter to prevent a virus and staying away from people is prohibited if I decide to ride that. But sharing an e scooter with loads of people possibly spreading germs is nuts but yet permitted by UK government and that's all they're accepting how does that make any sense

i’m scared of what people will do with toycat saying “daddy transport secretary”

How can riding your own e-scooter be illegal, yet riding a e-bike is legal ?!?!? Bastards !!!

Government: owned scooters are illegal Toycat: hahahhaha scooter go brrrrrrrrrrrr

Basically as long as the establishment has its hands in your pocket it is legal if they aren’t helping themselves to your earnings it’s illegal

My view is the government don’t want people to have transport they cannot make money from. There is no difference between mobility scooters on the pavement wizzing past and scooters, both are motor vehicles. And no I don’t own one or use one. But I can see the practical applications of them.

I say, all private scooter owners should meet outside downing street and protest for a month

The counterfeiter mind within me immediately goes "Buy an overpowered scooter and mod it to look pretty much identical to a Lime Scooter"...

There is some very backwards logic here, on par with holding salmon suspiciously.

Could you not just "make your own scooter company" and "rent the scooter" to yourself

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting super anxious hearing him just ramble in front of strangers

dodging the law ft. Toycat

People who own PEV's usually ride so much more responsibly, use safety gear, helmets, reflective vests, additional lights and etc. people on rentals, no helmets, no any other safety gear, and tons of random riding, diving into streets, between people and specially kids on these. Anyway it is funny to pass people on Xiaomi's and rentals in bike lanes via bicycle peddling at 20 mph.

If I was you I would ride my own e scooter and if I see feds quickly push it like it's a normal scooter 💯

Hello Andrew, I watched your video on the Manchester schooter ( My home town ) video and loved them ever since and I am doing your video styles but in my wheelchair and use a gorpo on my chest mount, keep up the good work and keep safe... great content!!!

When all of this is over ride a scooter from South Africa to the most eastern part of Russia

I bought an escooter to use to get to work and back last year. Parking was banned at work and parking in town costs £400+ a year and buying the scooter just made sense. I haven’t been stopped and have been passed by a few police cars when going home. Fingers crossed!

Listen, privately owned e-scooters will NOT be made legal until the government work out a way to tax the owner/rider. If everyone rides a scooter, the government will be losing tax from fuel not bought therefore not getting tax from it. The government will never allow people to have tax free transport. It's as simple as that!

4 minutes long I have been wondering why he was driving on the left side of the road until I realized that he is in the UK XD

World Economic Forum: "you will own nothing and be happy." Search the great reset.

What licence do you need to become a hire company ? Or do you just bribe an M.P.

Fun fact in Milton Keynes if the path is red or brown you can ride a bike on it and also if it has yellow bollards

To be honest, most places in the outskirts of London aren’t really enforcing it, I’ve been riding mine around for well over a year now and police drive past me fairly frequently, I just don’t ride the scooter like a dickhead, I even have a few pals with them too and we were going for lots of rides together before the pandemic, plan to again soon as we can!

I'm waiting for the day when we need registration plates for our skateboards..............not long now.... Then I'll be waiting for the day when we need to insure our socks and shoes.............to walk on public roads that is.........not necessary for operating your shoes on private property.

Its got nothing to do with safety. I can hit closer to 30mph on a bicycle and do alot more damage to pedestrians but thats legal?

it's kind of scary when Toycat is at a place where you have been to many times before hahahah

Thankyou so much. Needed this clarification big time. 👏

in a pandemic lets share escooters🤷‍♂️ no thanks🤮

Our government in a nutshell: What u doing ? Oh just using this thing bought YOU GOT A LICENCE TO BE DOING THAT

I ride around on my Zero 11x at 40mph everywhere. It can go 70mph but I would definitely die. I got a ninebot max too but that is my pub scooter. Not much need for that nowadays.

They say these are categorised as "motor vehicles" yet uninsureable , so what category are they under the government will not say , but ban a category that apparently doesn't exist.

Great video, Can't agree more with you on so many points you mention there, Last week I need it to use a rental scooter for few days for the simple reason just need it new tyres for my privet scooter (Mercane MX-60), And the feeling of insecurity and other road users being on the quest to run me over was unbelievable. I just can't understand how and why someone pushing me to ride a 15MPH on the public road with all the danger around me, IE: buses, Cars, and the stupidity of other users where I could easily use a cycle lane and stay safe at all the time. It must be a 2021 Covid-19 side effect in the UK,s gov.

10 years ago: Murdering is illegal Now: owning a scooter is illegal.

I'm in NE rural Scotland. I got pulled by police on my 350w scooter, the officers I dealt with weren't bothered as I wasn't being stupid, they were looking for someone else thankfully. I'm now so confident I bought the Kugoo M4 Pro, Always wear safety gear with e scooters

Good for you man ! I’ve just recently acquired a Vici off road scooter

It only become a “motor vehicle” when exceeding 15mps anything before that is simply the same as a pedal bike and most scooter unless hacked are limited to 15mps for that very reason!

If they Legally allowed Scooters it will be the Death of TFL Why would you ever catch a Bus 🤔

Is there a loophole in the law where you can rent it from somebody you know?

"Rentable scooters you can rent in pretty much any scooter across the UK" -ibxtoycat, 2021

This video was SO on point.. I made another account just to give this a second like 👍😎

Push bikes are far more dangerous IMO. This law makes no sence!

Riding on the road has to be more dangerous - drivers won’t expect to see a scooter trundling along at 10 or 15 miles an hour, especially around roundabouts, which normally have trees on them for some strange reason, meaning we can’t see over them

I was told by transport police, if ride like an idiot, they will enforce. When at night , wear hi-vis , use your lights and don't go through red lights . Pretty simple really.

Bless the YT algorithm for this. I live in Canada in a place where they rolled out the E-scooter sharing thing in 2018/2019. Much of the language in the media leading up to the E-scooter "legalization" conveniently hid the fact that this was solely only for rentals. I was really annoyed to see that rentals were the only way of riding e-scooters legally, but riding your own is illegal because the government has not paved for a way to be legal. Sure they are dubbed as "pilot projects" with timeframes, but it's a bad policy imo to simply restrict them to just rentals. Renting vs Owning completely different and to have the future of riding a privately owned scooter onto a dataset based on rentals is absurd IMO. Rentals bring a whole host of issues that really turn people against e-scooters and it's just unfathomable how politicians even think this is remotely a good idea. What this comes down to is companies having a monopoly on a mode of transport. Imagine governments back then doing the same thing for automobiles.

Im looking to buy a rion re 90 and if the boys in fancy dress think they will take it,there will be a problem...

This law isn't to protect or help the public, its basically to extract rental cash from us and screw your freedom to travel cheaply ,cleanly and safely. The law is an arse.

That's so corrupt lol. You can only rent a beat up used scooter, but you can't drive your own that you take care of and ensure it's safe.

There is an act that I used in court to dismiss “ no insurance no license no MOT . The alternatively fuelled vehicles provision electrical power vehicles exempt from UK License requirement, NO classification or Prerequisite

Sounds like the great reset, you will own nothing but be happy. !!!!!!!!!

I am so sorry you had to go to milton keynes

I'm a keyworker for a local hospital and I was stopped on my way to work and had my scooter confiscated leaving no choice but to walk the rest of the way. I had to pay to collect my scooter from the vehicle pound. They are unisurable apparently and categorised as a motor vehicle, BUT WHAT CATEGORY A GREY CATEGORY THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

There's videos on here of people in the U.S taking these rental scooters down an ally taking the GPS controller off and fitting a cheap controller from eBay.

Totally bonkers law

Tbh I agree with the new for a diving licence and stopping people driving on pavements. It should be the same with mobility scooters. People drive those stupid and at speed aswell.

So basically they’re cheap, eco friendly and convenient but only if the government can make money from them

Fact of the matter is they dont want people to stop using their cars or public transport, they know cycling will only have minimal uptake because of the physical effort required, especially for commuting,decent ebikes are still very expensive, awkward to take on public transport and harder to secure at your destination etc, scooters are very cheap, easily transportable, can be taken to your desk i.e. harder for ppl to pinch they are nimble and are a perfect safe way to commute and just get about generally, however they cant tax them, there is no registration, no insurance, no expensive fuel or tyres or servicing etc etc. Under this Pandemic they had every reason to with the swipe of a pen simply enable their legal use over night, in large cities and towns taking people out of buses cars and trains but no, rather than expand everyones freedoms they have taken everyones freedoms away, yesterday weve been informed we are allowed to hug our loved ones in May? yup the arrogance the government has to think they have the right to tell you when you can hug your loved ones? They will never make them legal to use without number plates, tax, insurance and MOT, they will make all electrically powered devices meet the same criteria, ebikes and e scooters will need plates, tax and insurance, we may have got Brexit but I fear that the government will just use this as en excuse to take freedom from us and not to unsnare us from restrictions that the EU have put upon everyone.

Illegal to own, legal to rent is something we need to stop.

I've got a Zoom Stryder GT. I've had a couple of "hairy" moments but it's often due to other people being an idiot. I've felt far more comfortable and safe on my scooter than I do on a bike because I can comfortably accelerate out of the path of dangers and can slow down and escape danger quickly. Also, if you do come off, you're not tied into the frame of the thing like on a bike. They should be legal.

It's the same thing, ONE can shop in the supermarket BUT NOT allowed to walk in open air in the park.

I'm hoping to move to York later this year to go to Uni and am excited to try out the scooters there which includes free escooter rental between the 2 campuses of the university. Goin got take my bie with me aswell but will be cool to try out

andrew its too late for e scooters right now i am going to go to sleep

This is why I like living in America. And not just this specific incident. All around the UK and the rest of Europe there are stupid "beurocracy loops" that prohibit you from doing things that were previously legal and aren't necessarily meant to be illegal, but are because two different beurus have laws that contradict each other. These exist here too but I feel like I hear more about them overseas.

Tape your e-scooter blue add "DOTT to the front fork. You got yourself a rental scooter 👍 I wouldn't have stopped, switch on sports mode and bolt! I'd wear earphones and say I didn't hear/see anything.

They can't take your licence unless it's by topping up points. I have an e-bike, but theft is a huge problem for me and the cops, a scooter gets me around exactly the same as my bike but with the ability to take the scooter into a safe location .

Crazy how you can still cycle with out needing any licence- I have definitely done some dangerous stuff on the road on my bike

I have an ebike which is great, don't think id trust myself on one of these though. Also it's mental not allowing them on bike lanes! Only thing is with scooters if you hit a pot hole in the road and you won't see it if it's been raining your basically dead!!

And when are the government going to stop making up new rules and laws, don't we think we have enough laws and rules right now.

We have them just up the road from there in Northampton. The fact that a 35m ride cost £8 is the reason why I won't bother with them. I'm pretty sure our local ones are about 20p a minute so that's probably about right :(

Been waiting since 2017 e scooters to become legal in Uk and since last year I bought one and enjoyed for over 600 miles , no trouble with police but been stopped two days ago and advised friendly by a pretty police officer not to ride it anymore or risk £300 fine and scooter seized. She was super cool but I know the next one may not be, e bike is the way to go and wait until they legalise these

Then the simple answer is "rent it of yourself" that's using logic and reason, or should I say logic with reason. Now, how much should I charge myself?

I find it crazy that the Uk just makes up laws. You can rent but not own….. I’m a Brit living in Germany and here you are legally obligated to make sure your scooter is registered and insured. Total cost per year, €32.50! They found a sensible solution that allows people to have a little freedom both while keeping it safe with guidelines and the government makes a bit of cash out of it too. Me and my girlfriend both own and ride our scooters and because of that we make sure the scooters are safe to ride and we both wear a helmet. Most people that rent scooters don’t even own a helmet let alone wear one.

What stops you from opening a LLC and buying it in the LLC and renting it out to you? Completely legal at that point right?

Dang I gotta get me one of those

I personally think they're brilliant as a Car owner you're not liable if you hit them and they reduce traffic jams

I’m now doing a long term rental in Bristol for £35 a month it’s way cheaper then the bus

I went through this some time ago when I owned The Pedshed in Aldershot. I was in court all the time & they never got to fine me. The case of Burns v Currell (1963) has become the standard case to apply when asking whether a vehicle is intended for use on the road. It would appear that the vehicle would have to be used more than once before something such as an off road scramble bike could be considered to be a motor vehicle unless the owner adapted it for on road use for example by the fitting of lights and road tyres. Clearly you bicycle was intended for road use. You can ride a go-cart on the road & they can't touch you! when they stop you tell them you have lost your mind & walk out of court.

Imagine if someone heard him say “I have broken the rule here”

LOL 😂 that’s a good idea make your own rental company even ? Wish they make them legal soon Andy, wanted to use them for deliveroo and Uber eats but don’t know if it’s worth it

£50 for a motor vehicle in a bike lane what a load of bollocks, how can they class a e scooter as a motor vehicle are they stupid, is it not just the same as using an e bike in a cycle lane, the reason the government don't want e scooters being made legal is they still want you to use ya car cos you'll still have to pay road tax and tax on fuel, if they legalise w scooters they loose all that extra cash they rip us off with

Nobody is going to take my scooter without a fight.

It's all bout' the money my friend. All bout' the money 🙄

one e scooter rider was clocked at 100Kph. That is down right insane. perhaps the reason some councils say rental scooter is legal but privately owned is not is because they get a cut from the rentals.

The Police cannot take your licence, only a court or DVSA can do that

ok I am registered Disabled I have dla a blue badge etc etc , what is to say my 2 wheel scooter is not my disability transport , any law says a disability scooter must have at least 3 wheels ?

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I've owned my scooter for 18months. Seen plenty of police, never been stopped.

UK gov want to go zero carbon emissions and stop people driving unnecessarily, but then want to stop electric bikes and scooters 🤷🏻‍♀️

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You were too polite I wouldnt l have even stopped

what if i runaway with my Veteran Sherman from police ? which can make 55 mph and can runaway to any hole ?

Oi mate! Ya got a loicense fer dat scootah do ya?!

Im early Edit: tocat is yes Edit 2: I always type something like this whenever im early lol

Pretty sure the built in insurance is only valid if you are wearing the appropriate safety gear and following basic rules of the road like indicating your direction (which I couldn’t see you do at all in this video, especially at the roundabouts). I actually don’t think bikes should be allowed to be purchased or ridden on roads without insurance either but that’s by the by. Though that’s exactly what makes the whole area a bit grey, they need to either change the whole system for bikes and scooters etc. to enforce training, licences and insurance or just allow scooters to be covered by the bike laws and be done with it.

I find it funny if they want to go down the route of saying it's motorized therefore illegal in public, that means hoverboards one wheels skateboards mobility scooters all illegal too but they don't have a problem with them

It's more about revenue than safety! How can the authorities make money out of e-scooter riders? Rent them out! Simple⚠️👍😎😁 I'd recommend wearing gloves on that public scooter, who knows if someone had covid 19 and rode that before you?⚠️😯🤔