How Salvador Broke Borderlands 2 - "Borderlands Retrospective" (Part 1) 

As a big fan of borderlands 2 this video has me hyped!

Ninjas, assassins, engineers, soldiers, marksmen, walking meat tanks, a SENTIENT ROBOT with a MONKEY with a GUN, LITERAL GODDESSES OF TIME AND SPACE... *_a very angry man with two guns_*

Do I care if Sal is broken? Hell no! He and Krieg are my 2 favorite characters!

The last surviving Hyperion guard watching a midget with 2 guns charge at him:💀

Sal is great because he actually scales into UVHM, which a lot of characters simply suffer a lot in. He can slag easier than anyone else besides maybe Maya, and is super tanky. I honestly wish the other characters were made closer to his level so UVHM and OP levels weren't as awful.

Sal can make any gun work basically at any level. Saves you from the terrible endgame scaling bl2 has

Salvador: proving an extra firearm is more powerful then powerful, incredible and rare abilities.

1:49 You forgot to mention that when the game decides how much moneyshot bonus your left gun should have, it looks at the magazine size of the right gun. So holding the Grog in the right hand gives you full money shot bonus on your Orphan maker that should barely get a bonus.

You also didn't mention that the mag size requirement on money shot is insanely broken, because it only looks at the weapon in your right hand. That's why having the grog in the right hand and a low-mag shotgun in the left hand is so insanely broken.

Doing a Salvador run right now to get a taste on how OP he is,so far,wow

At first I didn't think being able to hold two guns at the same time is impressive then I realized that means he can hold a slag weapon and fire his main gun at the same time. This means he gets access to slag whenever his ability is available and he got a slag weapon. It's just a point and click adventure at that point.

really good video; every time i play Sal i always go "God i love this character so much" whenever i see big damage numbers, at this point he's just a main staple of the franchise for me and was my very first playable character introduction into the Borderlands games.

3:25 The Lady Fist didn't have 800% extra crit damage on launch. It was only buffed in late 2013 during the 100k loot hunt over a year after the game came out. People would use the crit Fibber instead which has a 700% crit damage boost, but it wasn't commonly used until UVHM came out.

Sal is god mode. Double pen Harold's and grog nozzle and rough rider = OP

I have zero issues with Sal. Borderlands is a power fantasy game, and he is the ultimate power fantasy. It's also worth mentioning that until you have enough skill points to permazerk, he's rather squishy...

That double grenade skill is underrated, epic magic missiles for instant slag and storm fronts for instant grog healing. Chain lightning are good for flying enemies for those storm fronts can keep up heals on a few raid bosses even, OP as hell.

I think weapon merging is a little different than you mentioned here. With the grog, you get the healing if it is out when damage occurs I'm pretty sure. So if you have one gun out and swap to the grog before the bullets hit, you gain the health. Or if you throw a grenade with the grog out you gain health. You aren't really merging its effect in this case the gun is just out and its effect works. If you watch speed runs of the game, the any% with gaige, they do weapon merging there to stack I think its crit damage from one gun onto a different gun.

RIP my boy Yoteslaya 😢

Oh the Harold and grog combo, absolute classic 🤤🤤🤤❤️❤️❤️

holy shit this video makes me feel old lol im only 19 so to me this game came out what feels like eons ago. the fact that its been more than a decade, and people like you are starting to make retrospectives on the series is just wild to me. i had no idea back then that even after all these years i would still be all over this franchise. back then i was still getting used to the hype and adrenaline behind reaching Level 50 for the first time. man, i love this game so much, and i love channels like yours that show love to it, too. what an amazing trip down memory lane, this video was

Great video, however you forgot to mention that the Grog has another very important effect that's not obvious to most people - the 200% type B crit damage bonus which means it's multiplicative.

Really like this video! Fresh format with a new approach to the game, keep it going!

I think the passive weapon stats stacking was what made Sal so fun. Made you think of all the creative ways you can exploit BL2’s crazy gun mechanics to do some insane damage. If the ability was just to shoot 2 guns at the same time, it might as well have been just a double your damage button which is no fun

me playing Borderlands 2 for the first time: "Ooh that mohawk guy looked cool in the intro, it looks like he's the best at shooting. I think I wanna pick him for my first playthrough!" me after watching this video: "...What have I gotten myself into?"

As a noob to Borderlands 2 i thank you for telling me all about how broken Salvador is and now i'm going to abuse it maliciously in singleplayer.

Got it free when it come to Epic and chose him because I thought shooting two guns was cool. One day I meet a cool guy in co-op who played a lot longer. He gave me a grog nozzle, the permanent one, and explained me the basics. All went to hell after that.

What I usually do is play on the community patch and challenge myself to not use any exploits or cheap strats (no grog, no 400anarchy norfleet, no b0re abuse) etc... Usually works fine into op10 until you try to do raidbosses, then it becomes painfully slow and tedious. Unless you play sal. Then you need to spreadsheet out every weapon and finish your borderlands phd to avoid exploits, and even then you just tear every raidboss a new one

This was enlightening. I didn't really realize how all of Salvador's skills and bonuses interact but I love playing Salvador. I honestly need all the help I can get.

This makes me nostalgic for the first time I played bl2. I was Maya, and my two friends were Gaige and Salvador. At one point during the playthrough the Salvador-player starts laughing excitedly and explains how he just noticed he had become incredibly overpowered

Dope video dude good shit :)

Didn't know about the pimperhab glitch, thanks for the new knowledge:)

Gunzerking with a Chulainn, DPUH & Bee shield = God mode.

I am glad you mentioned that Salvador is OP without exploits. Dual DPS or DPS and utility together is insane, and not many people understand that fundamental aspect of Salvador makes him so strong. The fact that he can regen ammo and basically gunzerk forever, means that even the downside (high ammo consumption) of having two copies of a weapon is basically non-existent. Also weapon merging works with identical weapons two lady fists together gives Salvador +1600% crit, this is actually worse than Grog and Lady Fist. Which gives +800% due to the Grog's x3 multiplier I am convinced that the spaghetti code that is Salvador is what lead to dual-wielding bugs in later titles such as the buffmeister exploit in Wonderlands (patched) as an example, and those only got patched because these games were more recent. Gearbox is known for being lazy when it comes to this sort of thing.

this is a really cool video! salvador is fun to talk about in terms of balance, as he has had a very interesting history throughout borderlands 2’s lifetime, along with his mechanics and abilities, and how they make him who he is. i do think salvador is broken in some regard, but i think it comes a lot down to the weapons he can take advantage of rather than him exclusively. earlier on, when a lot of dlc weapons didn't exist, such as a grog nozzle, and the level cap was 50, i think he was better balance wise as he didn't have access to any of the now well established powerful gear he can use, and you didn't have as many skill points to work with. while you can rock the rubi and harold, you still have way less skill points than nowadays so you kinda have to invest wisely. i think he was designed to be a glass cannon, dealing out heaps of damage and taking heaps of agro, with the gunlust and rampage trees allowing for massive stat boosts and constant damage, and tank giving increased survivability so you can take more heat, but the addition of several weapons like the grog nozzle, new legendary class mods, etc, along with the hugely increased level cap, it basically nullified any sort of weakness that salvador would have had in the past. the grog made his tank skilltree almost entirely obsolete, allowing him to just go all in on damage and duration, which allows him to be even MORE powerful and tanky, as with the grog, damage = healing, with more damage = even more healing. i think Sal being able to capitalise on weapon effects is really cool and unique to him, but that alone almost pushes him over the edge entirely with balance singlehandedly imo. i would hate to see it nerfed, but it probably would be necessary to make him more reasonable. even then, there's so much more to talk about with salvador, such as his skills like money shot and overkill, along with general jank like guns in his left hand not being affected by certain skills/gear, but i just wanted to give my 2 cents. he's a fun character, and a macho man for sure. edit: just realised editing this comment to change some things accidentally got rid of the heart i got oops fknwnfn still, thank you anyway for the heart!!!

The moment I realized you can combine weapon effects on sal, I realized he was the strongest.

I always played with my two buddies. I was Zero and Maya, my best friend Axton and Krieg, and his younger brother Salvador. Lets just say he was always full of himself.

In my opinion the grog nozzle is what puts him over the edge. He also requires far less setup to be effective

Running through dual wielding an unkempt herald and grognossle with a bee shield is so fun hahaha. No aiming required and you never die lol.

I think its fine to have one "broken" character. Makes it a little bit easier to do raid style content for people who are not maybe that good at games or dont have friends to play with. Everything should be soloable in borderlands anyways and its good theres a character that can do it well

Thanks man I play krieg and sal to this day. Awesome content I will agree 100% on this video. Salvador is the character you get on to have fun with. Or to help carry other friends in raids lol.

I remember watching YouAlwaysWin and one said that “Salvador ultimate was double the pleasure double fun A bunch of shots for everyone”.

The Library of my highschool was where i first saw the trailer for Borderlands 2 and when sal came on screen it was love at first sight. ive put 2000 hours at minimum into borderlands 2 and only ever completed one playthrough as someone other than Salvador (shout out krieg)

Sal always has been one of my favs (played every character to max about 2-4 times) because he starts out actually.... Like the weakest ? Just taking a look at new game speedruns he really isn't better than the other characters. He is actually slot worse until you get his skilltree and weapon choices really going . After that you can build into whatever You want. You wanna use the gub? Sure try it to your hearts content. You wanna spam bullets with butchers and never reload? Sure go ahead. I love this. I love the fact that sal really has unlimited build options just because he can pretty much break everything. This game has so much awesome loot and equipment it's a shame 90% of it goes to trash for most of the characters at higher levels while sal is able to make use of it. Ofc those things are still much worse but they're still playable.

I read a steam guide that referred to Salvador as "The walking glitch", and that about summarizes him perfectly.

When you listen to The Echo you realize this is what he is one man army

it’s hilarious how he’s better than full bug builds because they only have a single bug, he has dual wield bugs possible

My first borderlands character was sal but i never used the exploits i just used vladof spin guns and ran around being a a10 warthog

I mean regardless of how u feel. Sometimes it's just fun to have infinite power.

NOBODY expects the Salvador Inquisition!

There's another busted skill that Sal has - 5 shots or 6. It's a kill skill that gives you a chance to receive +2 ammo to the magazine after a shot and with a class mod boosting it to 10/10 you get 50% chance for it it happen so 50% of the shots consume ammo and 50% of the shots refill magazine back, which gives you almost infinite ammo on most guns, with ammo regen effects that Sal has it actually becomes infinite. Very strong with Vladof sniper rifles, you use them like a machine gun on Sal.

I see u been on a content grind lately, got potential to blow up with that thumbnail and title, respect

Salvador was definitely playing the game on easy mode. Krieg melee only is the true patrician build.

Sal is the best character. Krieg is the most fun in terms of shit talking and just running around beating everything to death.

I really wanna replay this game

love your content keep it up

this video made me feel better about playing Gaige and zer0 lol

When i was Playing with a friend he was struggling with a enemy and got downed... I just walked by Moneyshot/killed the enemy and revived him like nothing ever happened.. my friend was quiet and mentioned that i did like over 500k+ damage.

Krieg may be my favorite character from any looter shooter

*sighs* *opens bl2 to start a sal build*

Ah yes, the guy Man of Low Moral Fiber hates with every fiber (heh) of his being

I literally mained sal end game most my hundreds of hours were on him. The unkempt grog nozzle combo just made the op8 game easy mode

I completely forgot to mention another weapon combo. Green Vladof launcher & the fibber. Fire both guns at the same time to pause ammo consumption on the fibber until you stop firing, or gunzerking wears off. You can do this to money shot Hyperius to death at speeds so fast, you can chain kill him to cause loot pools large enough to tank the frame rate.

I think his other skills play more of a factor to it than just the dual wield, he's basically one punch man

Very excellant and descriptive guide of Salvadore

As an axton main I have to admit Salvador is fun af to play

I still say that Sal is really fun to play! Even if you know ALL of the builds and set-ups for Salvador, you can still easily get 1-2 tapped by much of the harder content if you do not know exactly what you are doing.

Sometimes, you want something that will challenge your skills, your intellect, in order to achieve what deemed impossible. And sometimes, you just want to go around and kill everything you meet, yell one-liners, shoot two guns that do not shut up, and have a shield that doesn't shut up neither.

Salvador was my multi-player character and I never had an issue with him. I loved every minute of my 300 hours of BL2

So basically Salvador is seen as the WoW Hunter of BL2.

Sal never shows up in BL3 because COV would be utterly dismantled in an hour.

Money Shot is even more broken than what you said. It scales up to 12 mag size (instead of 10 like the description says). Which means that the full bonus you can get with 11 points is 1056% and not 880%. For the Grog Nozzle healing applying to the other weapon, it's more about the Grog Nozzle being broken than Salvador. Healing from Moxxi weapons works with every damage you do when holding the weapon. Yes, it's easier with Salvador, but using Chain Lightning or swapping weapons with slow projectiles (like a DPUH) works well enough on every character.

Salvador can have some insane slag combos

That is what bl3 makes better the balance between all characters. In bl3 every character is good.

>Goes with the other Vault hunters because he thinks it would be fun >Is basically a space Mexican >Has a sick head of hair >Becomes the most broken character of the franchise >Leaves to become a commentator in BL3 >Refuses to elaborate further

uber crit swapping was mega dumb too. all the characters can swap to a lady fist before a shot lands for extra crit damage, but sal can swap to a lady fist and a grog nozzle for an extra 2400% bonus crit damage

I have the same Sal since launch! I'm not going to be like "he OP, not play". This is new to me too, I dont really interact with Bl2 comunity, but Zer0 seems strong too. And I didnt know about the Pimpernel, and I dont know what a Ahab is lol

As a Sal main I feel like you just attacked every way I like to play the game. I'm here for it though

I was laughing at the name my brother's friend gave a pistol build I didn't even know about. He called it the "Degenerate's waaaa I don't want to try anymore build" The Grognozle DP Unkempt Harold Pistol set up. And yeah I just didn't die lol

Bro i didnt have to worry about refilling ammos even once during my playthrough with salvador

Great vid. I don’t think you could do this on bl3 bc all the characters had some sort of op build especially crit swapping fl4k with the sticky torgue shottys

to this day, i still have never made a salvador

I remember having two purple tediore smgs and killing Tera morphus in like four reloads throws

Sal is probably the weakest vault hunter until around level 50 then he becomes a monster

salvadors mechanics could be extremely fun in a modern borderlands game really, if borderlands 4 has multiple action skills again i feel like it should come back in some sort of way, just actually balanced and such. also, every borderlands game except 1 and 3 (if you dont count digi clone or iron bear) had a type of gunzerk in it, bl2 had sal, blps had nisha with her dual pistols and wonderlands had spellzerker, so thats interesting

I actually played this game on a Dell laptop with integrated Intel graphics that were so bad I had to mod the game into the ground, shadows, outlines, even entire texturing went. It ended up looking like a PS1 game, but Sal was still a blast to play.

What I usually do for the rng on his money shot and inconceivable is putting on rough rider shield and swapping shields to one that drains hp so I’m low then putting rough rider back on so no shields and low hp :)

Sal is so far the only character I have to make it to op10, I just need to the pimp combo to raid

Forgot to mention that one of the skill trees for him let him throw 2 grenades for the price of one

I remember when I got my second DPUH for Salvador 🥰

Clearly sal is the most overpowered vault hunter is because he’s the only person who has access to left handed guns

You can Merge guns with any character, I forget how exactly but you had to switch guns and menu with a kinda tight timing. I'm certain it wasn't uncommon knowledge.

Didn't know people didnt have fun on sal. He is pretty much the only character i play to have fun.

salvadors issue wasn't inherently him using two weapons at the same time, it is that he had so many bugs supporting him on top of not having a negative damage modifier while using two weapons.

The beutiful sound of like 10 money shots

Inconceivable caps at 50% chance to not consume ammo. And you get the full bonus when your shield is depleted or you are very low on health. So you don't need to be 1 shot away from dying to get the full bonus. You still get it at full health with broken shield.

Hilarious that the grog gives crit damage aswell as crazy heals

Sal takes skill, what's that skill? Knowing what guns are best because how f**king broken he is.

I absolutely loved sal. I went with Zer0 in my first ever run on 360 but on PS4 I decided to go Sal... I tore that entire game to pieces lmao. Made farming bosses for rare loot stupid fast and fun, he was so disgustingly broken in the most fun way possible. So many different combos to work with.

One thing that i have decided to do as a op10 Salvador player is I discovered the no moxxi brawn. I have been playing it as a deputy build its alot of fun and in op10 takes some practice but its very fun and makes salavdor a more balanced character.

6:45 regarding the chaining of Money Shot with RNG, I'll just drop this video for reference of how that looks: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-52Yl0EJ52vs.html PS: for context this video is set in a game file that is OP level 8, meaning enemies and bosses are overleveled by 8 levels, and the boss being fought is an "Invincible" boss, basically a late game mountain of hp and damage dealing with specifics mechanics and stages needed to kill it.