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How Scammers in China Manipulate Amazon | WSJ 

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Chinese sellers resort to a wide range of cunning techniques to manipulate product listings on Amazon and boost sales. WSJ’s Jon Emont investigates their strategies and explains how consumers can detect sham listings. Image: Crystal Tai. Video: Clément Bürge/WSJ
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@BlankedEye
@BlankedEye 5 лет назад
Funny the chinese guy speaks english as perfectly as the israeli guy and they still need to put the subtitles
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 5 лет назад
we all noticed this, it was their way of "othering" him. that shade is as bright as the white dude's bald head.
@fanjin.z
@fanjin.z 5 лет назад
He is obviously not Chinese, mostly likely an US Asian.
@zombieswillomnomnom
@zombieswillomnomnom 5 лет назад
Fanjin Zeng he would still be ethically chinese. also, that doesn’t change the fact that they put subtitles on him when he can be very easily understood
@peterchen1966
@peterchen1966 5 лет назад
@@fanjin.z Let's be real. That guy is definitely born and raised in China. We can clearly hear the accent, and please don't think it's a compliment when you say that one person is Asain American. You're just being stupid. We should give him credit for studying English so hard.
@lehuy7306
@lehuy7306 5 лет назад
You're being shallow here what about the people with hearing illness? Or people whose listening in English is not good so they need subtitles?
@bluzshadez
@bluzshadez 4 года назад
I didn't realize how "dirty" the business practices were just to get ahead of competitors. Everything can easily be faked. What a scary world we live in now.
@bryanshoemaker6120
@bryanshoemaker6120 4 года назад
its even worse then that. china in the last 30 years has done many things. fake web pages, fake bar codes, fake tags, shipping parts from china to some other country then to destination to avoid made in china label. buying a test product dont work to. buy the time you buy 1 product and test it. some shady entity already stole theyre intellectual property and is making a knock off causing your legal and proper business to die in a matter of 2 weeks.
@bryanshoemaker6120
@bryanshoemaker6120 4 года назад
@Drakilicious that would be stupid. what would the point of that be?
@danishbutter1847
@danishbutter1847 2 года назад
scary world? this is only China, i trust most sellers from most countries except China, Pakistan, and India with a grain of salt.
@blakeg4166
@blakeg4166 Год назад
CAPITALISM makes people stupid mindless money chasers
@orenishii4268
@orenishii4268 Год назад
Yeah the sanlu mike, it's only happends in china
@bullbear3345
@bullbear3345 5 лет назад
Interview him as entrepreneur. Report him as scammer. What a double face news channel
@seanbrown8920
@seanbrown8920 5 лет назад
They are the same thing in China.
@kmcl11
@kmcl11 4 года назад
I support it. They are scammers so who cares.
@AchwaqKhalid
@AchwaqKhalid 4 года назад
Low key interrogation 😁
@labyebmor5068
@labyebmor5068 4 года назад
Bull Bear calm down mr communist troll
@sovereignspirit7640
@sovereignspirit7640 4 года назад
Bull Bear The interviewer didn't know he was a scammer until he interviewed him as an entrepreneur. You people are as dumb as dumb gets
@black__bread
@black__bread 5 лет назад
Chinese - scammer American - marketing and B2C optimization consultant
@Predestinated1
@Predestinated1 5 лет назад
😂
@black__bread
@black__bread 5 лет назад
@Watchdog You say scams, I say a weak regulatory environment and limited legal recourse. And if you think 'murika is above scams howabout I register you for an online marketing course at Trump University. Here have some Flint water and opiod painkillers while we fill out the form
@doesnotcompute3174
@doesnotcompute3174 5 лет назад
Martin Ersatz Because there are actual rules and regulations in America that go hard after offenders, something which the authoritarian government of China seems to lack. That’s not a defense of the scummy tactics businesses in America conduct their operations, but it seems China allows exploitation to a much higher degree.
@hizboo7670
@hizboo7670 5 лет назад
@@black__bread Chinese don't even care about the Chinese, sad
@rhythmmaster4128
@rhythmmaster4128 5 лет назад
@@hizboo7670 U think American care about the other Americans?
@rea8585
@rea8585 5 лет назад
As a web-redactor, I've been asked tons of times to do fake Amazon reviews. And none of them was coming from China, this is something sellers from the whole world are doing and they also often ask local redactors to do it.
@americansniper1641
@americansniper1641 5 лет назад
Quick Fix - Thought Provoking Videos as a web designer who knows hard numbers in China people do ask for fake reviews in amazon people don’t understand people see amazon as a bank
@soupwithnosoup4706
@soupwithnosoup4706 5 лет назад
@@andyk192 And you don't suppose any other foreign person could be asking for them? Just curious.
@cballena5785
@cballena5785 5 лет назад
Well, another US propaganda for trade war with China
@rich2583
@rich2583 5 лет назад
What is a web redactor? I've searched Google and nothing.
@DerekFullerWhoIsGovt
@DerekFullerWhoIsGovt 5 лет назад
Quick Fix - Thought Provoking Videos: Thanks 🙏🏽
@ziljin
@ziljin 5 лет назад
Howard's English is better than the narrator. Why do we need subtitles for him but not the narrator?
@dizzy6745
@dizzy6745 5 лет назад
But it isn't.
@bowenzhu9720
@bowenzhu9720 5 лет назад
dizzy6745 What about the guy from isreal
@revilo8oliver
@revilo8oliver 5 лет назад
coz he is not white
@s._3560
@s._3560 5 лет назад
Simply because even though poor Howard is willing to smear China and Chinese's reputations on WSJ's behalf, they still don't view him as their equal. He is still an lowly immigrant in their eyes, who has unintelligible English and requires subtitles in order to be understood. Just because Howard has an American accent, doesn't consitute him being their equal!
@HSan1503
@HSan1503 5 лет назад
Obviously it's for the blind viewers.
@DavichiG
@DavichiG 5 лет назад
Amazon Rule number one: only read 3 stars reviews, these are the most honest and real ones
@Acemans
@Acemans 4 года назад
I typically leave 4 star reviews if I really liked the product, 5 only if it did more than I expected.
@martineyety1419
@martineyety1419 4 года назад
ehh, solid state of mind but not always true my friend
@sunisii
@sunisii 4 года назад
The real way is to see the type of language the reviewer uses and if it is repetitive. Fake reviews sometimes say the same thing, but try to put it in different words. If they make multiple reviews within the same day (and only that day) they are probably (most likely) fake.
@JacyndaMinor
@JacyndaMinor 4 года назад
Idk they seem to have figured this out. I look for repetition and merits that no one cares about. Like, who says “the color really matches my decor” when talking about a speaker? I just disregard all products that have any fake reviews, although it really is getting rampant.i hate this, everything is a fckn trap nowadays. It’s gross. BE RICH AND SHOP LOCAL YALL
@ArtStoneUS
@ArtStoneUS 2 года назад
@@sunisii let’s say I was looking at toasters - if a review would look just as real if it was describing a pair of shoes, it is fake. I have decided to not buy items when a reviewer points out something about the product I did not notice or misleading language in the description. In general, Amazon is doing a pretty effective job of managing the reviews, at least for the items I buy.
@hunter21331
@hunter21331 4 года назад
So basically.... White-consumer Chinese-manufacture Indian-customer service
@junaidkhan-vz5br
@junaidkhan-vz5br 4 года назад
Yeeeea
@malcolmholmes2596
@malcolmholmes2596 4 года назад
SEA/Vietnam etc. Landfills
@Coolence_
@Coolence_ 4 года назад
Black-kfc
@BrianBBBB
@BrianBBBB 4 года назад
@@Coolence_ nah it's Popeye's
@Pippie5555
@Pippie5555 4 года назад
And the whites become cheated, and the whites own industry is closing down.
@unreliablenarrator6649
@unreliablenarrator6649 5 лет назад
These tactics are not unique to China. They are used globally.
@whereaboutsunknown3822
@whereaboutsunknown3822 4 года назад
No one said it's unique to China.
@miss.bitchswerve6329
@miss.bitchswerve6329 4 года назад
I think America’s proved to be easily manipulated specifically after trump’s win.
@magnusbutch4174
@magnusbutch4174 4 года назад
then how will the news be entertaining without a bogeyman?
@rafaelgabrielsantos1246
@rafaelgabrielsantos1246 4 года назад
India is the 2nd faker
@mwkcheng
@mwkcheng 4 года назад
The tactics are nothing new. But the scale is very different. In China (and India too) the labour cost is so cheap and there are hundred of thousands of people working full time to create fake accounts, making fake sales and fake reviews, for very very low prices. It's a pity this video did not show those people in action. It's actually amazing to watch how a huge team of people each controlling tens of mobile devices and working in high efficiency. You cannot fight that by trying to be a humble honest online seller.
@cberh
@cberh 5 лет назад
I sold on amazon for a year and a bit before I quit. I had the review scam and someone bought all my products and returned them after Christmas( which cost me money per item). I contacted amazon daily for like a a month and nothing was done I packed up paid my losses and now have over 1000 pairs of headphone sitting at home.
@cutielol0
@cutielol0 4 года назад
But why did the person buy them all just to return it later
@Irfan-pr1lu
@Irfan-pr1lu 4 года назад
@@cutielol0 maybe for an event, and return it after used so there almost no cost spent.
@lamtube8565
@lamtube8565 4 года назад
@@cutielol0 To kill competitions.
@miss.bitchswerve6329
@miss.bitchswerve6329 4 года назад
Irfan Agoes Mursalin so true 😂
@lamtube8565
@lamtube8565 4 года назад
@@Irfan-pr1lu If you do it too often, they will ban you.
@5MAnThe
@5MAnThe 5 лет назад
This just makes me not want to buy from Amazon and just walk into the store instead.
@ernst91
@ernst91 4 года назад
Do it.
@ajanimandara9137
@ajanimandara9137 4 года назад
@who knows? lol
@umsiee
@umsiee 4 года назад
@who knows? 😂😂
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 4 года назад
Asif Sarfaraz Yes and soon there will be no stores period.
@veroniquefaison
@veroniquefaison 3 года назад
Hubby and I made a cautious decision 3 years ago to limit our shopping on Uncle Jeff Bezos store. We probably purchase only 3 things a year and that is because it was not a available at any of the brick/mortar stores. Even during the beginning of the pandemic, we refused to purchase from Uncle Jeff.
@DarkElfDiva
@DarkElfDiva 5 лет назад
Amazon: *Pays employees pitiful wages, keeping them desparate and destitute* Amazon Employees: *take bribes* Amazon: *shocked pikachu meme*
@Alexa27396
@Alexa27396 5 лет назад
Let me simplify it: Humanity: *uses capitalism* Humanity: *suffers the consequences: corruption, artificial inefficiencies, artificial scarcity, etc.* Humanity: *shocked pikachu meme*
@DMihai
@DMihai 5 лет назад
Pitiful? Please do tell me more which of their competitiors pays more. 15/h at least..i don't see a problem there.
@mluqman
@mluqman 5 лет назад
The people who get paid low are Amazon warehouse workers, the warehouse worker don't have the power to influence product listings
@kendrabennett2843
@kendrabennett2843 5 лет назад
Bahaha!🤣🤣
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 5 лет назад
@@Alexa27396 Someone using Cyrillic accuses capitalism of corruption, artificial inefficiencies and artificial scarcity. Ironic! Not from Ukraine, are you, where millions of people were starved to death by the very corruption you claim for capitalism. The world has fewer people in poverty now than ever before due to capitalism.
@asdfgoogle
@asdfgoogle 5 лет назад
Why do only the Chinese speakers have subtitles when they speak? The dude from Israel had a stronger accent than that Chinese entrepreneur.
@His-ln7yd
@His-ln7yd 5 лет назад
Because he was made in China ? 😁
@Blacktolite
@Blacktolite 5 лет назад
How many isrealis own shares in WSJ?? Follow the money 💰💰💵💶💶💸📫💲
@tomservo5007
@tomservo5007 5 лет назад
because people that read lips would never 'guess' what he was saying. You know deaf people.
@MrStone125
@MrStone125 5 лет назад
@@sethwagoner3430 nah
@user-rh2pv2kc5g
@user-rh2pv2kc5g 5 лет назад
WSJ is a zionist......
@SheldonKreger
@SheldonKreger 5 лет назад
Amazon seller here. My business was destroyed by the kind of attack from competitors described in this video. Amazon does not respond to these cases and never took any retribution against the company attacking me. I am no longer selling on Amazon because there is no protection for legitimate sellers and fraud is the norm across the entire platform.
@movinon1242
@movinon1242 5 лет назад
Westerners should stick to independent Western companies. Otherwise, you all are just feeding this beast intent on your own destructions.
@grindTIME1985
@grindTIME1985 5 лет назад
amazon fba is dead since 2017.. thats why all these proclaimed gurus sell 500 courses
@MrLuffy9131
@MrLuffy9131 5 лет назад
I swear I think Bezos got rich because China is giving him bunch of money
@oa2560
@oa2560 5 лет назад
What do you do now for passive income then?
@landonic81
@landonic81 5 лет назад
@@movinon1242 You literally have no idea what your talking about
@yk15115
@yk15115 5 лет назад
Lol "Everyday I wake up to check reviews to see if I'm in business" Amazon basically owns you and your "business" and do whatever they please with you.
@Legion849
@Legion849 5 лет назад
Yeah and some of us still support them with our money. Amazon has to be stopped or none will be in business or even own one .
@abhisheksharma1921
@abhisheksharma1921 5 лет назад
@@Legion849 it's too late now
@abhisheksharma1921
@abhisheksharma1921 5 лет назад
@@Crowbar44 exactly we are not living in stone age era anymore.
@jayesper4390
@jayesper4390 4 года назад
@@Crowbar44 They've already got a near equal in Alibaba. Rakuten isn't too far behind either.
@anthonyc4138
@anthonyc4138 4 года назад
@@Crowbar44 yep
@nottodaylilbaldhead
@nottodaylilbaldhead 5 лет назад
This is why I don’t buy from Amazon. I prefer to go to the actual site itself for the product.
@shobino
@shobino 5 лет назад
It's funny there is cc when Chinese guy speaks and not when Israel guy lol
@illeh9590
@illeh9590 5 лет назад
Poor jews right?
@jasonhsu3375
@jasonhsu3375 5 лет назад
political correctness?this story needs a fu-manchu style negative character,the jew? come on ,dudes, u guys know the DEAL......
@GillianBrown13
@GillianBrown13 5 лет назад
Yeah and the Israeli guy even has more of an accent
@hizboo7670
@hizboo7670 5 лет назад
Who cares, why does the Chinese have Ane English names, is that one of his scam
@h8GW
@h8GW 5 лет назад
Even more funny when the Chinese guy has no Chinese accent.
@smonyboy
@smonyboy 5 лет назад
asian man spoke more eloquently than the israeli guy but the former needed subtitles, dafuq.
@salenow8866
@salenow8866 5 лет назад
I think it's due to the background noise. :)
@smonyboy
@smonyboy 5 лет назад
@@salenow8866c'mon now, who we kidding
@GM-xk1nw
@GM-xk1nw 5 лет назад
Americans hate and fear China but love Israelis
@BobbDogg
@BobbDogg 5 лет назад
MUH OUTRAGE!!!! INTERNAT BAD! *ANGRY NPC NOISES*
@sholmesbrown
@sholmesbrown 5 лет назад
That profile picture🤣🤣🤣 OF COURSE!!!! god he's such a leftist tool, soy runs through his veins
@mahadragon
@mahadragon 4 года назад
The fake reviews often get called out by people like me who actually look at the reviewers to see how long they’ve been online.
@JacyndaMinor
@JacyndaMinor 4 года назад
Mahadragon yeah but how, and then what? I want to do this too (on many e-commerce platforms) but oftentimes there’s nowhere to report to :/ it’s good to know I’m not alone but I wonder if there’s more to be done, or that could be done, to help. It’s def laborious af. Are you saying you call them out to the platform or you call them out in the reviews section? it’s good that you care tho it’s important to try and combat the scourge of bs on these here internetz I’m just interested in your methods, experiences, etc.
@mahadragon
@mahadragon 4 года назад
Jacynda Minor I do it in the reviews section. People will see it.
@TsetsiStoyanova
@TsetsiStoyanova 5 лет назад
They did not say how this man does it
@AckzaTV
@AckzaTV 5 лет назад
They didnt buy his consulting, you want that for free? nice try lol
@serzhanurazbayev3826
@serzhanurazbayev3826 5 лет назад
you gotta pay for knowledge. thats how businesses work
@marlinabasir
@marlinabasir 5 лет назад
Trade secret
@KrtNeo
@KrtNeo 5 лет назад
Then watch it again , just because you did not pay attention does not mean he did not say it lol. I heard how he did it.
@MyLife-og2kr
@MyLife-og2kr 5 лет назад
@@KrtNeo so can you explain how he does it? Edit: I want to know exactly how he does it and in the most detailed instructions that will provide me with what I need to do.
@billaddison82
@billaddison82 5 лет назад
As a buyer I’ve noticed the experience on amazon has deteriorated significantly because of this issue, to the point where I’d rather just pay more in person and save myself the time and sanity.
@Mwolf888
@Mwolf888 5 лет назад
So why does the Chinese guy with a fluent American accent need subtitles and the Israeli guy not need subtitles when he clearly has a thicker accent. Smh.
@A0pplePapple
@A0pplePapple 5 лет назад
I like the Israeli accent, its sounds really thicker btw I'm Israeli
@drtomato
@drtomato 5 лет назад
@@A0pplePapple There's nothing wrong with Chinese accents.
@A0pplePapple
@A0pplePapple 5 лет назад
i never said there was something wrong with the Chinese accents...
@urbosasfurry2126
@urbosasfurry2126 5 лет назад
"We hired a Chinese subtitle guy and by golly, we're gonna use him even if the Chinese guy's English is great!"
@lichan133
@lichan133 5 лет назад
Good point, the Chinese dude spoke good English. That's why I didn't even notice the subtitles, only noticed it from your comment.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 5 лет назад
I very rarely trust third party sellers of Amazon. Many many of them are so obvious scams especially with flash USB drives and SD cards. Even when an item is sold by a third party seller and delivered by Amazon that doesn't mean that the Amazon has the knowledge or the responsibility to check what is exactly delivering. I trust and love Amazon when something is sold and delivered by Amazon. eBay is by far better with individual sellers.
@Pernection
@Pernection 5 лет назад
That is the whole point of selling on Amazon is that other sellers can sell not now with Amazon trying to cut them out by making their own stuff.
@baluandhavarapu5786
@baluandhavarapu5786 5 лет назад
Responsibility is something that you cannot deny that they have. Until now, I have never had a good enough experience with searching via Amazon. Most of the times, I reach the product directly via the product's official website or via Google Shopping.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 лет назад
I only buy products where they allow returns and refunds.
@rayansalama2155
@rayansalama2155 4 года назад
How do you know if a product is sold by amazon itself or the third party sellers ?
@rlvsun
@rlvsun 2 года назад
I only buy on Amazon because of free shipping. Prices are higher than other website business that does not offer free shipping like Walmart.
@oblivionzzzmike
@oblivionzzzmike 5 лет назад
This is old news. You should really look into the ongoing speculation from thousands of online retail businesses, who buy really cheap fake products on Aliexpress/Alibaba etc, brand and resell it on Ebay and Amazon. Their level of automation is extreme. They heavily promote this scheme as a fast way of doing money. Advertising apps/algorithms and database software through which you reduce number of transactions, practically buying cheap products, branding and reselling without having to even check the product. You see these kind of ads everywhere on Facebook, Instagram or any social media platform out there. It's a disease really!
@TheBkdot
@TheBkdot 5 лет назад
This happened to me so many times I was convinced Amazon was complicit and didn't want me to sell on their platform.
@JoshuaDegreiff
@JoshuaDegreiff 5 лет назад
At the end of the day I think Amazon doesn’t care much when they get commissions
@amjidali588
@amjidali588 5 лет назад
Mate I’ve had my best listings hijacked by Chinese sellers and changed. Reported to Amazon and they really don’t care
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 лет назад
Amazon should just ban Chinese sellers.
@chgone5034
@chgone5034 4 года назад
That Chinese guy seems to have no sense of shame about his business practice. He sounds very proud of what he is doing. He even called himself a ‘Professor of Amazon’
@laughingman7882
@laughingman7882 5 лет назад
BREAKING NEWS; This just in, companies use fake reviews to gain sales! Did they seriously claim to have spent actual months investigating this 🤣😂💀
@dianegonzalez4748
@dianegonzalez4748 5 лет назад
😵😎😖🇺🇸
@Serai3
@Serai3 5 лет назад
Yeah, that's how ACTUAL REPORTING is done, asshole. You're just used to click-happy websites throwing whatever they hear up on the web without ever bothering to check anything out first.
@gmr2gnr
@gmr2gnr 5 лет назад
They have to show their boss they are doing work.
@asahel980
@asahel980 5 лет назад
fake investigation or not. as myself as an online seller. this is true and even as an adult who knows about adult world this is vey very true , other people dont play by the rules it is a fact. even in big corporations happens like Samsung and other android phones copying Iphone designs.
@timmykirls2352
@timmykirls2352 5 лет назад
You wont get it unless you know the market. Everything they said was true. I hate wsj too but they're right about this fake reviews are a big problem no matter where they come from.
@1up4evr7
@1up4evr7 5 лет назад
This explains partly why most of the reviews on Amazon are garbage.
@Supperconductor
@Supperconductor 5 лет назад
I use fakespot.com to check the reviews - but that’s algorithm based too and I guess subject to being tricked as well.
@weirdo1060
@weirdo1060 5 лет назад
@@Supperconductor I use it too. There is no foolproof way, but it will at least check for basic fake reviews. It is similar to counterfeit currency, although there is extremely good fakes, there are also tools to spot poorly done ones.
@attilagabor535
@attilagabor535 5 лет назад
Eim Unbannable so you admit most of the garbage reviews are made by chinese?
@dvessel
@dvessel 5 лет назад
LOL, he did indeed.
@DavidSmith-nx3zw
@DavidSmith-nx3zw 5 лет назад
Thanks to the chinese
@homerlovedonuts
@homerlovedonuts 5 лет назад
don't always trust reviews, i was offered a refund for a good review
@funny-video-YouTube-channel
@funny-video-YouTube-channel 5 лет назад
*Same thing is happening for app reviews.* When we look at the most negative OR the most positive reviews. They are often fake. Ratings and reviews is like the currency of reputation on the Internet.
@Tyw7
@Tyw7 5 лет назад
I was asked to do reviews on a Amazon but that stopped once I gave honest 3* reviews. They keep on pestering me to give them 5*. I refused.
@MyJohnrox
@MyJohnrox 5 лет назад
Not really scammers in China.... alot of people do it all over the world. All those tactics can be done anywhere... thats the harmful side of online businesses. As Amazon marketplace gets more saturated, no doubt sellers would do anything they can to drive up sales. The title is misleading, and should just say how scammers manipulate Amz marketplace and not specify 'China'. Thats discrimination, at least back it up with statistics if you want to mention China.
@fanjin.z
@fanjin.z 5 лет назад
This video doesn't show any of the scammers is Chinese citizen. Amazon is an US company and Howard is not an Chinese (He speaks perfect English, most likely a US Asian).
@boogeymanws
@boogeymanws 5 лет назад
I used to be the guy protecting the platform and almost all the scammers were from china. Which I agree is pretty weird since it could be done from anywhere.
@smileandlaughs
@smileandlaughs 5 лет назад
Scammer will be everywhere, but the bulk of most simple manufactured product comes from China and that create an environment where many sellers be from China.
@JackyUnoriginal
@JackyUnoriginal 5 лет назад
China because the investigation was done in China maybe? Where exactly did they claim this was never done anywhere else? It is indeed true a bulk of these bad products with fake reviews originate form China.
@Mike-vh1ur
@Mike-vh1ur 5 лет назад
most of the country thus but not in big scale!! china does ... Retarded country
@cozyvamp
@cozyvamp 5 лет назад
It's been my experience as an Amazon consumer that, when I give a very bad review because a product is totally misrepresented, my reviews are immediately removed. For example, a Kindle version of a cookbook in French. I read enough French and have been cooking long enough that I frequently buy books like this is they aren't available in English. One such book I ordered, when I opened it on my Kindle, was only three pages long, and those were random photos that had little to do with the topic of the cookbook. Amazon had no explanation as to why my review was removed, nor, more significant, why they continued to sell these non-books. Somebody's got a friend in Amazon management. Ditto a DVD I ordered that had no DVD in the case. My review was removed, and I was offered neither a refund nor a replacement. This one is fairly common, if you watch reviews as closely as I do. Cheating at Amazon. You bet. Maybe they should be watching their employees more closely because sellers don't get away with these tactics without help from someone inside the company.
@jestes7
@jestes7 5 лет назад
Omg, I had a review removed as well. It was a good negative review describing a problem with a fuel line breaking down and I even took a picture of the chunks of rubber coming off of it. It's B.S.
@fastrice3461
@fastrice3461 5 лет назад
Exactly! I don’t even bother leaving reviews because the negative ones are always removed!
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 лет назад
It could be that the seller just complained to Amazon about your review being fake.
@aida_amore
@aida_amore 5 лет назад
I'm done with Amazon!!!! Products have 5 🌟 reviews, but when I get the item - it looks completely different from the picture advertised! And the worst part is - Amazon uses returns against you!!! They have horrible customer service. They treated me like it was my fault that I received a defective product!
@yuguangzai
@yuguangzai 5 лет назад
Aida Amorre just hang up and call again. It’s always different depends on the person you get
@aida_amore
@aida_amore 5 лет назад
@@yuguangzai I've learned that and it's bunch of bs!!! I'm done with Amazon for good.
@goddammitboi
@goddammitboi 5 лет назад
lol Never had that problem, only buy Amazon prime approved products
@wejie
@wejie 5 лет назад
Agree.
@Cam-pt9ex
@Cam-pt9ex 5 лет назад
Same here. I don’t even touch Amazon. Online shopping is trash
@GrnXnham
@GrnXnham 5 лет назад
I order off of Amazon several times per week. Yes, it's a jungle sorting through all the reviews. Yes, companies all over the world are participating in these same scams, however, I've noticed it's more prolific among the Chinese companies. So, IMHO, this video is legit and is not just "picking on" Chinese companies. There's nothing wrong with letting the buyer beware!
@daviddavis5689
@daviddavis5689 5 лет назад
But then its not just Chinese companies that post fake reviews. Tho reading some are a good laugh.
@sambee4927
@sambee4927 5 лет назад
Most scammers are from China.
@Rainbow-Reilly
@Rainbow-Reilly 5 лет назад
I've had my Amazon account hacked before and used to post fake reviews for products I never bought.
@AckzaTV
@AckzaTV 5 лет назад
"It's a Jungle" ... yeah man, youre selling on a site called Amazon lol try ebay
@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd
@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd 4 года назад
A nova superpotência é a América do Sul saudações do Brasil
@SandyRiverBlue
@SandyRiverBlue 4 года назад
@@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd Then why say it so hiddenly?
@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd
@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd 4 года назад
Do not sendyriderblue not sendyriderblue actually i have a dream of turning south america into a super power
@SandyRiverBlue
@SandyRiverBlue 4 года назад
@@JoaoOliveira-zy8qd It's overrated.
@jessebashiri8224
@jessebashiri8224 5 лет назад
And i thought selling on eBay was cutthroat 😂
@tekashi7044
@tekashi7044 5 лет назад
Amazon does not care about good or bad sellers, they need their customers and selling fee commission.
@CalvinHodgson
@CalvinHodgson 5 лет назад
Amazon hosed a ton of reviewer accounts that were freebie in exchange for review, so my bet is more on ethics than a quick buck. They can still buy but can't leave reviews.
@TheBkdot
@TheBkdot 5 лет назад
BS I've never actually been suspended but many of my accounts have been in the yellow or red because someone with a Chinese name has ordered from me and claimed the item was defective and in other cases claim the item was not in the package.
@carloalberto4132
@carloalberto4132 5 лет назад
@@TheBkdot seems like people who are caught doing fake reviews should get bigger punishments.
@nautical1078
@nautical1078 5 лет назад
You're very short-sighted if you think Amazon doesn't care, it affects their reputation and customer satisfaction, which can hurt their bottom line (look at eBay, their reputation took a hit and they aren't the big dog in e-commerce).
@AirsoftNY
@AirsoftNY 5 лет назад
This video awwsome. Would buy again A+++
@movinon1242
@movinon1242 5 лет назад
LOL!
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 5 лет назад
Does the job. Highly recommended
@mosesberkowitz3298
@mosesberkowitz3298 5 лет назад
Video movie make me happi....for go to what again soon!
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 5 лет назад
They need to make it so that only people who have bought at least a certain number of products and confirmed their purchases can leave reviews on products. Also make it so it's not too easy for one person at a certain IP to spam fake reviews. There needs to be an algorithm that filters through low reviews and sees if this person is just a bot or a person that bought only 1 item and is leaving negative reviews.
@nautical1078
@nautical1078 5 лет назад
Lol you think they haven't thought of these things and done benefit analysis? They should hire you as a consultant.
@hanglam2910
@hanglam2910 2 года назад
They already hire people to buy products and send them empty boxes just to be able to provide a fake review.
@eq4611
@eq4611 5 лет назад
I think I learned enough ancient Chinese secrets for today.🤖🤖🤖👁️👌
@thinhtranba5352
@thinhtranba5352 5 лет назад
Despite the click bait, I learn a few or two about online business. Thanks or no thanks WSJ.
@superxbert
@superxbert 5 лет назад
My authentic negative review (with photos of the product attached) was rejected by Amazon for not abiding by their rules and regulations.
@nautical1078
@nautical1078 5 лет назад
Then follow the rules.
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 4 года назад
Wow! Actual investigative journalism in this day and age. on things we use. Wish we had more journalists that tested things and systems like this.
@stephendean2896
@stephendean2896 5 лет назад
Have you notice that people who a little shady or straight up con They all find reasons to justify their action
@stevedomenech5292
@stevedomenech5292 5 лет назад
i knew this was thing, when u get a poor quality product on amazon with great reviews, had to be fake. so hard to eshop
@Cam-pt9ex
@Cam-pt9ex 5 лет назад
Steve D Yup amazon consists of fake reviews. Local shopping is better
@ScottTangents
@ScottTangents 5 лет назад
I usually cross interview the sellers. I directly ask a string questions related to the product and demand pictures before buying. This has helped me most times.
@wannaberedneckprepper7030
@wannaberedneckprepper7030 5 лет назад
Means Amazon no longer get my biz. Sorry. Good to know.
@movinon1242
@movinon1242 5 лет назад
The more of us that feel and act this way, the better chance our society has to survive! Bless you!
@alfredoalcantar8691
@alfredoalcantar8691 4 года назад
It’s funny because somebody will buy
@stevenmosley7917
@stevenmosley7917 5 лет назад
"How All Successful Hard Working Online Businessmen Stay in Business"
@ed4all33
@ed4all33 4 года назад
And that is exactly why i love going to malls . Exercise , retail therapy , satisfaction , all in one . Lets bring our malls back instead of relying heavily on online scam artists and negligent companies.
@guuurlforreal4734
@guuurlforreal4734 4 года назад
Ok that’s it, I’m done with buying from amazon, walking around is healthier anyway
@alexanderosullivan9764
@alexanderosullivan9764 3 года назад
You can still buy books off amazon
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 3 года назад
Is walking and buying things off Amazon mutually exclusive??
@tylersmith7054
@tylersmith7054 5 лет назад
As a seller on Amazon you are constantly in fear of their heavy hand. They ban first and ask questions later. Even when the claims against the seller are false being shut down for days or weeks can cost you dearly and boost a competitors sales. I wish I had a solution but I'm just a little fish in a huge ocean of online sales.
@rotate85
@rotate85 5 лет назад
Wow. What an amazing piece of investigative journalism. 🙄
@naturesfriend812
@naturesfriend812 5 лет назад
Thank you!!! I have shopped Amazon products for awhile and trusted the positive product reviews in the beginning. After awhile buying Amazon products based on reviews I was baffled why products I purchased were substandard or discount Dollar Store worthy at above grade prices. I would post my reviews of my disappointing experiences. Then my phone rang late into the night from callers representing the China or Asian companies I had purchased my Amazon products from. Emotionally they invariably told me to remove my reviews. Then in exchange for removing reviews offered to refund my money. Sometimes reviewers of Amazon products I wished to buy warned products were knock offs (Yeti and others ), based on their own buying experiences. I went to Yeti website and purchased products there and advised Yeti of the knock offs sold through Amazon. I have been amazed at Amazon for allowing these scam-y practices.
@TechZG
@TechZG 5 лет назад
I assume Americans also do this... but that wouldn’t be an attractive clickbait title would it?
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 5 лет назад
This is the reason why the title is clickbait. It is not exactly a scam or China only, these are tactics employed by Amazon FBA sellers as the competition is high.
@stsk7
@stsk7 5 лет назад
It would be more attractive
@JonSmith-yq1dw
@JonSmith-yq1dw 5 лет назад
I'm sure they do too as well as other countries but the rate of Chinese products that are manipulated in these ways are way way more numerous
@harryedwards4987
@harryedwards4987 5 лет назад
@blue copper I do dropshipping too bro, made my first $7k month! What's your ig?
@cerebrumexcrement
@cerebrumexcrement 5 лет назад
Some do, but American Amazon sellers are usually mom and pops and don’t have the financial power like Chinese sellers. If you’ve ever dealt with Chinese sellers, you’ll know how ruthless they are.
@mrpeanutbutter6094
@mrpeanutbutter6094 5 лет назад
I don’t understand this wsj why you need to put subtitle every time the guy speaks, I could hear every word that coming from his mouth.
@allwecanseeisaboveusnow
@allwecanseeisaboveusnow 5 лет назад
The Mijonju Show then why not put the subtitles for everyone who is speaking???
@anthonyshope8408
@anthonyshope8408 5 лет назад
jason millan Dude,you even type with an accent ! LOL
@tomservo5007
@tomservo5007 5 лет назад
@@kevinlification because they can read lips.
@Mijonju
@Mijonju 5 лет назад
@@kevinlification I'm sure they'd put subtitles for the retards if they appear in the video. Let me watch again, I don't think there's any people with disabilities.
@mrpeanutbutter6094
@mrpeanutbutter6094 5 лет назад
@@anthonyshope8408 You know what so funny I look up the word accent in the internet and they gave me the 2019 Hyundia accent as a search result.
@sk8queen
@sk8queen 4 года назад
About 3 years ago, my niece got lots of shipments from Amazon. I found we were supposed to go online and rate them. NOT! Thanks for the items though.
@spongecake951
@spongecake951 3 года назад
This is still true today. There are still a bunch of Chinese sellers offering free products for positive reviews over platforms like WeChat
@theshivelyfamily
@theshivelyfamily 5 лет назад
Appreciate the long term research and production quality in this video. Contrary to some viewers' opinions, it doesn't show China or its people in a bad light. It just so happens that a LOT of Amazon's products are manufactured in China. There are companies in every country that participate in the manipulation.
@Sha_Fermo
@Sha_Fermo 5 лет назад
It isn’t about a LOT of products being manufacturers being located in China, it is the title and how it implies that China as a whole is manipulating the market. It is a clickbait title and shows a bias.
@MrLuffy9131
@MrLuffy9131 5 лет назад
The problem is that bunch of counterfeits are being produced so you can't tell which is real or fake
@JD-tn8nb
@JD-tn8nb 5 лет назад
I pay more attention to the negative reviews. Good reviews mean nothing. People ruin everything.
@movinon1242
@movinon1242 5 лет назад
Didn't you watch? They post negatives, too. Best to put faith in American, European, Korean, Japanese and Taiwanese manufacturers over Chinese, regardless of the price difference. If we all do this, the Chinese menace will dissipate on its own.
@mikrichie6662
@mikrichie6662 5 лет назад
Lady J- That is exactly what I do. To determine if the problems are worse than the benefits.
@nautical1078
@nautical1078 5 лет назад
Read the reviews with pictures and updates (usually lengthy). Negative reviews are faked too.
@johnserling9843
@johnserling9843 5 лет назад
I have been contacted by Chinese sellers wanting to give me stuff in return for reviews. I said No to one. I told another that my positive review should be enough for him. One very active reviewer wrote about what they did to him, in his review. It was very telling. There certainly is corruption in Amazon reviews. But I am a semanticist and can read between the lines. The most important thing I take away from this video is to be wary of extremely short reviews that provide no clue about the writer's origin. I will look for an unusual percentage of such extremely short reviews, to discount the product rating. That's the thing about China. Apparently they hate English. You can tell by their writing or their lack of writing.
@curiousgeorge6921
@curiousgeorge6921 4 года назад
How did they contact you
@Trgn
@Trgn 4 года назад
And can you even form a simple sentence in any other language?
@thegoreetruth1074
@thegoreetruth1074 3 года назад
This is not true. People in China pay money to teach their kids English. They not only care about them learning English, but they want to have American pronunciation of English. Look up the success of the online ESL business centered in China.
@iCapaS
@iCapaS 5 лет назад
"The wall street journal investigated for months around the world" lol, investigated
@enricosanchez894
@enricosanchez894 4 года назад
"Investigated for moths" more likely
@thatgeekdad
@thatgeekdad 5 лет назад
Another way a company fights back is by reporting good reviews on protects of their competitors to get the good review taken down and then the reviewer barred from ever being able to make a review. It's happen to me three times now over the course of 2 years. I don't get an email or anything from Amazon, I am just told i broke community guidelines. Since the first time it happened, I have been taking screen shots of every review i make and sure enough, I am barred a few months later. I don't slander, nor do I take in products for free and then review them or receive compensation. I just love tech and try out lots of different items of one particular category and give an honest opinion. I believe this last time it was because I give 2 bad reviews for a iPad Pro 11 case that used horrible magnets and wasn't compatible to charge the Apple Pencil 2. I then gave a glowing review to one that didn't use magnets but cupped the corners of the iPad AND you are able to charge the Apple Pencil 2. A day later, banned.
@cggc9510
@cggc9510 4 года назад
So he is the one responsible for the extra long, everything in the title, nonsense titles and descriptions. What they really need is someone who is a native English speaker to tone down the repetitive nature of the descriptions.
@AAAAAAAA67890
@AAAAAAAA67890 5 лет назад
That’s why I never buy on amazon
@Loftikaz
@Loftikaz 5 лет назад
This video presentation I think was of a great quality especially it contains high definition and included was a free subtitles. Highly recommending
@trishse4030
@trishse4030 4 года назад
Never buy from third parties on Amazon. You can read where it's shipped from if you look in the description. Or look for the return address for the product. This will save you time and money as I was scammed this way!
@theotherside931
@theotherside931 5 лет назад
*BREAKING NEWS.* *Wall Street Journal just did their 1,000th BLAME IT ON CHINA segment.*
@fironfiron8843
@fironfiron8843 5 лет назад
Murican media in nutshell. No mentions of Terrorist-loving State of America which supports Saudis.
@asukayin6487
@asukayin6487 5 лет назад
As they should.
@mikedee718
@mikedee718 5 лет назад
They have a lot to be of blame
@JT-fc2zm
@JT-fc2zm 5 лет назад
BREAKING NEWS. Chinese scammers are also manipulating youtube comments :)
@theotherside931
@theotherside931 5 лет назад
@@JT-fc2zm *BREAKING NEWS* *Chinese people are hiding under your bed. In your wardrobe. In your kitchen. Behind your church's podium. In your wife's handbag. And even in your dreams.* *
@nighthawk700gc
@nighthawk700gc 5 лет назад
Wish ALL of this was subtitled. I'm a deaf viewer, and I have a few (deaf) friends who might have gotten roped into this that I'd like to forward the video to.
@professorofamazon4877
@professorofamazon4877 5 лет назад
I just wanted to let everyone know that i didn't know WSJ would make the video subject like this. I was told it was going to be a interview of me as a consultant.
@professorofamazon4877
@professorofamazon4877 5 лет назад
www.professorofamazon.com or follow me on faceboook Professor Of Amazon facebook page
@Raymond2ism
@Raymond2ism 5 лет назад
'sophisticated technologies, like machine learning' why do I find this hilarious! Does this guy know what he's talking about?
@ItsEricPhung
@ItsEricPhung 5 лет назад
just a reporter
@Raymond2ism
@Raymond2ism 5 лет назад
@@ItsEricPhung you are right
@Camilo19832001
@Camilo19832001 5 лет назад
Before buying anything on amazon i look up various reviews on RU-vid. Bingo, problem solved
@jestes7
@jestes7 5 лет назад
Good thinking. If it's a fairly prominent product I will read the reviews of other websites as well.
@user-wickedflower
@user-wickedflower 5 лет назад
MaKos2004 but they can be fake reviews too
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 лет назад
Reviews on RU-vid can be fake too. Especially if the reviewer has sponsors on their channel.
@miss.bitchswerve6329
@miss.bitchswerve6329 4 года назад
RU-vid reviews are not to be trusted in most cases there’s money behind them. However, there still legit RU-vidrs who care about their subscribers and can be trusted but only like 10% chance of it being real. Don’t trust no one not even your president 😂
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 3 года назад
Same. I bought hundreds of items on Amazon. All good quality. Just don't be a dumb shopper.
@thedeetzes
@thedeetzes 5 лет назад
Very interesting! How badly his shirt needs to be ironed at the 6 minute mark made me laugh.
@austncarsn
@austncarsn 5 лет назад
thedeetzes it looks awful.
@june049
@june049 4 года назад
80% of stuff I've bought on Amazon is JUNK!
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 4 года назад
christie bowman Stop wasting your money.
@thegoonist
@thegoonist 5 лет назад
its a risk reward thing. theres low risk, high reward. same as what bankers have in the financial industry. you just need to make it much more costly for them to do this.
@friendsonearth
@friendsonearth 5 лет назад
Amazon knows well, but don't do much. they want to create other market revenue benefit from this which this vid didn't mention
@MARILYNANDERSON88
@MARILYNANDERSON88 5 лет назад
Access to products is improved. Distribution is improving. markets are building. Quality is getting better. Hope for even better times becomes the directive: expect better times, demand better.
@sunrisemorninglory9109
@sunrisemorninglory9109 4 года назад
I am not surprised. When I do a search on Amazon to find Products Made in the USA; and try to buy an item that says in the product's description, 'Made in the United States. Then when the item arrives it has a Made in China Logo.
@erickrcisneros
@erickrcisneros 5 лет назад
How about Amazon.com using drivers license or ID number to identify you as the seller. That may help with multiple Fake accounts.
@weirdo1060
@weirdo1060 5 лет назад
ID numbers can be bought on black market. It also may simply be pro forma (keep on file) unless there is cause for investigation
@michaelsolis1390
@michaelsolis1390 5 лет назад
Thats why I quit ordering in Amazon
@LeonNikkidude
@LeonNikkidude 5 лет назад
To get the best product order thru Prime and Amazon fulfillment.Lowest risk with product!
@angelofdeath275
@angelofdeath275 5 лет назад
Lon Brooklyn lol
@Legion849
@Legion849 5 лет назад
Sure and guess what at one point u will regret it.
@abhisheksharma1921
@abhisheksharma1921 5 лет назад
You can trust prime because it's based on seller performance however any seller can opt for Amazon fulfillment.
@LittleWhole
@LittleWhole 5 лет назад
6:29 see those battery bank phone cases in the right-bottom corner? I have the exact same case for my phone
@KirbyZhang
@KirbyZhang 5 лет назад
hey you scammed professor amazon by pretending friendly then making him look bad.
@nayodeenletsplay9420
@nayodeenletsplay9420 4 года назад
u idiot
@KirbyZhang
@KirbyZhang 4 года назад
@It's Private if he was scamming he wouldn't have told it to bloomberg, would he?
@KirbyZhang
@KirbyZhang 4 года назад
@It's Private what did he steal? he's sales consultant. criminals don't talk to media especially not in china.
@neurodivergejyn4140
@neurodivergejyn4140 5 лет назад
I purchased a really cheap macbook Pro magsafe Power charger off Amazon. The vendor had some weird name like.. HJK312guf or something non-descript. The thing melted into itself like a burnt marshmellow. Hey- it was $7 vs the $80, and even melted it worked just long enough to get me by. The reviews? HORRIBLE. They all said the same thing with pictures that looked like mine. The shop wasn't shut down immediately because I was able to buy another cheap lame-o product until I could afford the $80 for my legit one, lol! And there were another 20 vendors with off names that sold the EXACT same product.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 5 лет назад
They all got their chargers from the same vendor in china
@0fficialdregs
@0fficialdregs 5 лет назад
i dont buy the TOP item i always have 4 tabs open and i browse each item features, prices, and location
@MamaMoonShine
@MamaMoonShine 4 года назад
They also solicit customers who give low star ratings, if they change their rating, they will give you gift cards to their stores.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 5 лет назад
If all buyers were to more consistently post reviews, it would be harder to cheat the system with a few fake reviews. As consumers we should all pitch in a little harder to make the review system accurate.
@Paroissien
@Paroissien 5 лет назад
I've been denied my negative comments on Amazon for products i purchased. My negative comments are always respectful and thoroughly argumented on facts.
@VVVVV99611
@VVVVV99611 Год назад
There are way too many fake reviews
@itsPhD
@itsPhD 5 лет назад
Well known that this was going on Chinese sellers will stop at nothing to destroy competitors.
@kevinmeng5231
@kevinmeng5231 5 лет назад
This happens even more frequently on Taobao. Amazon has a pretty good security system already.
@robertandrews6915
@robertandrews6915 5 лет назад
I hated amazon the more I used it. Only so many times I can get ripped off and go back to buying from them. Worst purchase so far was buying an unlocked iPhone that after 2 months had lost connectivity and amazon did nothing to enforce a warranty. They always said we’re sorry but we tried and we can’t help but if they wanted to protect their customers they would’ve blocked the seller until they resolved the issues. 300$ on a phone that can only use WiFi was the last straw for me. I highly recommend not using amazon for ANYTHING.
@AcesizOfficial
@AcesizOfficial 5 лет назад
Interesting
@SAMZIRRA
@SAMZIRRA 5 лет назад
Amazon spreads the black market across the globe.
@410kane
@410kane 4 года назад
I try not to order from China but it was a few cases where I had no idea it was coming there. At least not until after I ordered and got a China Post tracking number. That pushes me to go to actual Websites and order instead of Amazon
@ValenceFlux
@ValenceFlux 5 лет назад
I helped a small business owner list products and parts on his website some years ago. As the website grew, orders that customers received where constantly claimed to be not what they ordered and so they left negative reviews. Products were listed accurately but customers still made their arguments.
@RUNDNB85
@RUNDNB85 5 лет назад
this has been going on since day one….
@jackyjiang1006
@jackyjiang1006 5 лет назад
CHANGE THE TITLE. Amazon's customer review system is just not perfect enough to filter out fake reviews. Not on Chinese people.
@will16320
@will16320 5 лет назад
Hah Jacky please, Chinese people can't even watch youtube
@Serai3
@Serai3 5 лет назад
China is doing this way more than other countries, so that's why they went there. Sorry you don't like the facts, bub.
@_september_4799
@_september_4799 5 лет назад
Serai3 Nothing especially bad or meaningful about it happening in China it’s basically the industrial capital of the world after all if anywhere else was the capital off-course this would happen there too.
@Serai3
@Serai3 5 лет назад
That's completely beside the point. It's a crappy thing and it's happening in China. That's why the piece is about it happening in China.
@JRYin
@JRYin 5 лет назад
@@will16320 Use VPN, very simple, I am watching youtube right now.
@avatarcoolman
@avatarcoolman 5 лет назад
I was about to report those fake 100% 5 star rating products. Good that I saw this clip.
@ttraderjim
@ttraderjim 5 лет назад
I'd like to have an option when I shop on Amazon to be able to be shown only products Made In America!
@DanielPennybaker
@DanielPennybaker 5 лет назад
I’ve always wanted this. Better yet, products from only Democracies.
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 5 лет назад
There would be hardly anything to buy then ?
@karpetcabin
@karpetcabin 5 лет назад
@两岸人民幸福中国统一万岁 you mean like Taiwan etc.
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 5 лет назад
America doesn't make anything. Wake up.
@ChindiChitranna
@ChindiChitranna 5 лет назад
Most of the fake reviews I have seen are from US sellers ;)
@professorofamazon4877
@professorofamazon4877 5 лет назад
Agree not just chinese does it, everyone in the world
@alecnguyen838
@alecnguyen838 5 лет назад
Nah I've done the fake reviews on a private group it was 100% Chinese sellers
@sinmoneyy5253
@sinmoneyy5253 5 лет назад
The majority is Asians though
@happy_trails
@happy_trails 5 лет назад
yea i'm sure your opinion is completely trustworthy LOL
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