How soon is too soon to quit the job you JUST started? 

Yes. I had one insane boss and my confidence as a scientist went down the toilet for quite a while. The whole company was shit and I had to move around department cuz my wife was getting medical treatments and we couldn’t really quit but once she was done with that benefit….I never looked back. One horrible boss can truly ruin your prospective, confidence and outlook.

And it doesn't take long.

No doubt.

Especially multiple ones… I’ve had the worst luck the past few. At least over time you learn what red flags to look out for.

Last year, I worked 4-5 jobs. I experienced bullshit treatment within the first week in 75-80% of these jobs. I gave them each a month and then left once my fiancé begged me to quit so I would no longer be miserable.

@@Psych_Major_Blonde I fully understand what you went through.

What if you have bills to pay, mouths to feed? Poverty is pretty toxic as well, and good jobs aren't also easy to find.

​@@dhenderson1810 I'm in that position right now...😕

But where to go that's any better?

I just started a new job. Got those red flags on day one. I'm already looking for other options.

Wow fuck them

Unbelievable that anyone could be so clueless and rude. I hope their business failed.

I totally understand. I once worked as a chef in an F&B restaurant and got bullied terribly. They expect me to memorize all the menu and ingredients whereabouts on my first frickin day

I never returned after day 3 with zero notice once after a crazed manager tried to hold me hostage at the end of my shift until I fixed a mistake that I probably didn’t even make.

I feel this entirely! I accepted an EA role for a high profile public figure. I only received one day of training and got yelled at in front of his colleagues/other execs on my second day for acting too slow on a task I wasn’t even briefed on. So many red flags. Resigned shortly after! Mental health comes first.

Lmao

Same here and I turned off my phone hahaha

Me too and it’s just been a month!

I’ve learned that if a position is a little too enthusiastically promoted; they’re trying too hard because they know that the reality of it sucks.

By personal experience, I know that if the recruited person learns that others in their same *position* earns 10+k/per year more than the other person(s) on the same team…they’ll dip out in the same day they start.

You don’t owe a company anything. Your dad is a boomer mentality that Mande many of his generation miserable. You watch after your mental health. You are worth more than being in a toxic workplace ❤

I would tell my dad to f off, cause thats what he did.

Your father's doctrine has been obsolete since Reagan.

That sound like Boomer advice... 1 year back then was like 4-6 months nowadays...

How'd it end? Quitting or fired?

Hi! Genuine question. How did you resign? I'm a newbie in the "real world" thing. Did your contract in your old company had a notice period?

@@alyyssaa. Hi, no problem. That company had a 30 day notice period, I live in Ireland so that's the common duration. I went to them and asked would they match the offer I received (70% more) and they offered a tiny tiny increase which was still about €22,000 less than my new offer so I said no and take care. This is how my industry works. You shouldn't feel any guilt about leaving anywhere for a better personal situation.

@@daithiobraonain2067 oh okay, so you left before your 30 day notice period?

@@alyyssaa. I was going to honour the 30 day notice and continue working but the company themselves said I can just leave and said they would still pay, which they did. My manager wasn't great but HR in the company understood better and were nice about it all!

I just hope you don't do that one time, and the job you go to, after leaving the other one, turns out to be worse than the one you left.

@@dhenderson1810 well brother in that case that's why I live with an abundance mindset. If I can get a good job before, I can get a good job again. Like I put in my comment the best thing to do is make good decisions in the first place, but after that you gotta take corrective actions when you make mistakes. If I leave one job for another one that turns out to be worse, then I gotta get another job. It's really that simple

Hang on until you find a new job, it's easy to just quit a bad job, but the consequences money wise aren't good. That said, many public school teachers in different areas both urban & suburban are experiencing the same negatives due to zero involvement from parents. This has created teacher shortages so that profession will always be in demand.

@@emailuser8668 thanks for the encouragement. I’m trying to hang on for 2 more months. I’m going to try a different teaching job and I’m looking outside of teaching too

Your comment resonated with me. This might get a bit long, but I wanted to share my story. In 2005, I graduated with a degree in music education. In Ohio, there were a lot of retirements in 2004, so most of the class before me got hired, but in 2005 there were very few jobs to be found. I ended up having to move to Virginia to take a band director job that ended up being a life altering nightmare. The "sizable" band budget was really $100 for the entire middle school band program. I was instructed that students and their families were not to pay for books, supplies and even instruments. I spent $1000 on a curriculum because I didn't know better, thought this was normal, and wanted to do a good job. The school wouldnt pay for it. Neither would they pay for instruments. They wanted ME to find ways to pay for it. Yeah, saxophones are $1500 a pop, I will get right on that with my $30,000 per year teacher salary. I got a music store to come out with used instruments. We are talking $300 saxophones that go $1500 new. Parents just about ran me out of the school with all their yelling and screaming that I was expecting them to pay $300 for instruments. They said the school should pay for it. The school said I should pay for it. Then there was the level of poverty. As teachers, we were expected to report an hour before our normal start times to do laundry and provide showers for the kids. Parents didn't give a crap. We also fed them breakfast, lunch and dinner because parents wouldn't feed their kids. Drugs ran rampant, even in sixth grade. But the part that killed my career was the fact there was no discipline. They got rid of detentions the year before I got there because parents were leaving their kids overnight. They had to call the police to take them home. One teacher even got accused of molesting a child when driving them home, which it was obvious never happened, but this is how things worked there. So I wasn't allowed to write detentions. I wasn't allowed to single out a kid acting badly with punishment. All punishment had to apply to everyone in the class. One kid won't stop talking? Had to punish the whole class. Of course, that was all moot because punishments weren't really allowed. And the office wouldn't get involved unless I had two parent conferences, and the parents would say "fuck you, I ain't coming in". I was expected then to make a house call on my own time. Sorry, not doing it. That's a great way to get shot. So, then the office wouldn't get involved. I was on my own. I pleaded for help from the administration, but they never would get involved. The school was mostly black. I'm sorry that it came down to race, but as a white teacher it was, just not in the way society would think. I got spit on, cussed at, and Tuesdays and Thursdays I would go home with welts from where the black kids in my percussion classes would all pummel me with drumsticks for being white. I got called all sorts of racial slurs. When I told parents they said I deserved it for being white. I cried every morning, especially Tuesdays and Thursdays. I told the administration and they said "well, it's part of the job". It was outright assault, but I was told I deserved it for being white. I was young and desperate and wanted my career, so I was trying to complete a year before getting the hell out. On November 14, 2006 I had had enough. The weeks leading up to that date showed that I was losing my mental state. Most teachers were medicated to be honest because we would laugh about it. I got to the point, after trying since August to teach but never actually getting to because of all the problems, that I took electrical tape (used on drumsticks) and made a line down the middle of the room. My band class became a "whatever you want, I don't give a crap what goes on as long as nobody is bleeding, you stay on that side of the room, and leave me the heck alone". I know that's terrible, and people over the years have said I'm an awful person for not ensuring kids safety better, but what was I supposed to do? I literally couldn't punish. Words meant nothing to these kids and that's all I was permitted to do. On November 14, 2006, a kid named Timothy was THROWING CHAIRS at me. Seventh grader. I wasn't allowed to touch him, so how was I supposed to protect my other students? I eventually annoyed him enough to leave my room, but then he just caused troubles in the hallway and the hallway also gave him more chairs to throw at me. I finally lost it and threw the drumsticks I was holding into a cabinet. Not anywhere close to kids, although a ricochet could have occurred. I told my mentor teacher. She told the administration. Getting chairs thrown at me didn't get their attention. Me being assaulted everyday by drumsticks didn't get their attention. Be Throwing drumsticks was a capital offense. I was put on a three day leave. On day three they sent me a letter stating that I should resign and all the reasons I was no longer welcome at the school. They said I was a child abuser. I never touched a child. Never. Not even a pat on a shoulder for a good job because I knew the litigious mindset of the parents. Since the kid throwing chairs was black, they also accused me of racism. I drew up a 7 page rebuttal because of all the falsities, but the superintendent wouldn't even let me read them at our 1:1 meeting. I was run out of the school for being a child abusing racist. Irony is, and I am ashamed to say this, I wasn't a racist before that job but I was coming out. I spent years with a counselor just so I wouldn't fear a black person in public. I had spent months getting verbally and physically assaulted by black students and parents, and my white skin was always used to justify their treatment of me. I still struggle with racism. I hate it. I know it's wrong. I used to see a black person on the sidewalk and I would cross the street out of fear. I don't do that anymore, but I still get a sick feeling in my stomach and watch them carefully because I irrationally wonder if they have drumsticks. And all this recent focus on racism and whites being oppressors in the news just pisses me off. I was literally beat for being white, and that's not racism. I deserved it somehow, merely for being white. Racism goes both ways, but only one way gets called out. Anyways, I don't want this thread to be political, but all to say before I was a teacher I didn't deal with racist feelings. I thought racism was stupid and shallow. But now, I struggle with it. I've spent years and lots of money to help me get over it, but like a combat vet, I still struggle with PTSD from the experience. So what did I do afterwards? I went straight into engineering school. I love teaching. Music and teaching is what I wanted to do, and still would like to do with my life, but there's no way in hell I'm setting foot in a school. I get physically sick to my stomach during parent teacher conferences because it puts me in a similar setting to what happened in 2006. I go, but I dread it and have to prepare myself for it. Anyways, I wanted to be as far away from teaching as possible. Today's teachers would be better served with law enforcement training and a political science degree. It would have better served me. I never got to actually teach, I was too busy trying to survive. Thank you for reading if you've gotten this far. I probably shouldn't have because now I feel angry and sad. It's been 17 years and the wounds are still somewhat raw. My career was taken from me. I was regularly assaulted and abused. And what I want to do, and am qualified to do (although I let my license lapse), I won't ever do because I can't stand the memories being in a classroom brings back to me. And for all you people who will undoubtedly come and accuse me of being a racist and shame me, racism goes both ways. Any race can be an "oppressor". I'm not saying it's right. I fully admit that my racist feelings are wrong and they trouble me deeply. But I also can't help that feeling in my gut when I see someone that looks like the people who horribly mistreated me. I treat them with respect, because I know they aren't the same people, but that gut feeling of fear, even through years of counseling is still there. It's not my choice that I feel it, but I choose consciously to move on and treat everyone respectfully. But inside, I'm still trembling with fear. Sorry that I essentially wrote a book, but I just had so many things to say. And I didn't even write all that there was to say.

@@HawkeyePierce1981 Thanks for telling your story man. The even sadder thing is public education right now is even worse than 20 years ago. Integration has been a resounding failure. For many people the only choice is some sort of home schooling or charter school, if they can even afford it/get support for it.

That's where I'm at. I'm thinking about just doing Uber/Lyft full time and some other side gigs until I find something else. My workplace is way too toxic and I hate going into the office fake smiling in front of these folks.

hi! i have a question. how many days was your notice period before quiting your job? did your company had you signed a contract with a notice period? Is it okay to resign before your notice period?

Did you quit?

Get an attorney please

@DaleHenderson, was the job offer verbal or written? Sadly, don't trust verbal offers these days. They're worth the paper they're printed on.

@@fredericapanon207 I'm afraid to ask, as they may withdraw the job. Also, in my country, we have a six month "at will" period, where either party can pull the deal up to six months in. You only get a written deal after that period.

@@dhenderson1810 !! What country are you in?! Here in Canada, 3 months is the usual probationary period, but one still gets a written offer at the start. That employer is scummy anyway. How much do you want to bet that after working for free, you will somehow not be satisfactory? Rinse & repeat for the string of candidates after you.

@@fredericapanon207 I live in Australia, and we have harsh unfair dismissal laws, which makes it virtually impossible to fire anyone. So the "probationary period" was brought in to appease employers. It generally is a time for an employer to see if you are up to the job, and for the employee to see if they want to work there. Either side can pull out with no consequence in the deemed "probationary period", which is to be a maximum of six months. I find it heavily favours the employer.

On god I can relate brother. I was working in biotech for 3 years and got laid off back in December 16th 2022. I was out of work for 3 months and I have started working at a casino and I hate it so much. Luckily I had a phone interview from a company similar to what I doing before and it’s $10 raise. I am only making $19 which is STILL poverty level here in San Diego CA

Hey hey now..... I've been working for banks for the past seven years now, there's good people there 😂😂😂

@CharleneR, fire up the job search again and leave as soon as you have another offer. Then keep up the job search until you are sure you like the new place. Employers have no loyalty at all to their employees, thus they don't deserve any from their employees.

@@fredericapanon207 Definitely working on it. I have to remind myself that I’m a free agent and must look out for myself for once. I’m keeping my options open.

@@charlener8937 very good! And don't give them any notice that they do not deserve for being liars.

where I am, a girl lasted 15 minutes.

Was this the place that is beLOWE awful?

@@Thoughtworld1984 well, there are only 2 main choices, so it could be either orANGE

Probably a good call. Offloading financial responsibility for the company right away is a pretty bad sign lol

Hi! Genuine question. How did you resign? I'm a newbie in the "real world" thing. Did your contract in your old company had a notice period? Is it okay to resign and leave before the notice period?

@alyyssaa. Hi Alyyssaa I resigned towards the end of my probation, so my boss at that time just asked me if I could stay till the end of the probation period, which was fine for me. He tried very hard to retain me but I just couldn't. In sept 2023 it'll be a year. I'm a solopreneure and serving as a retainer based advisory board member in a few startups. Enjoying the freedom and slowly growing my business.

Exactly I had No training in my last role and they asked me to train myself.

Not reading all that but good luck or sorry that happened

Not reading all that but good luck or sorry that happened

as long as the new role is a better long term fit, go for it - but make sure you're vetting it carefully.

@JasonJohnson, did you document the violations and report them? Such dodgy employers need to be brought to account.

exact question I asked individually to the team I'm supposed to lead: "do you feel you're set up for success or failure?". No one could answer.

Yes put it, no problem. When asked why you are leaving so soon, just say the role you were hired to do and the responsibilities shifted away from your expectations. You can also say it was a contract role (6 months).