How "Spider-Verse" forced animation to evolve

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Non-photorealistic rendering has opened up an alternative to the ubiquitous “Pixar look.”
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When you think of CGI animated films, you likely think of Pixar. The studio practically invented the genre with 1995’s Toy Story - the first CGI animated feature film.
After Toy Story, almost all animation studios wanted to follow in Pixar’s successful footsteps, straight down to their style. Many studios sought out “The Pixar Look”: extremely high quality, physically based, and in some cases almost photorealistic.
It’s an appealing approach that remains popular at the box office - but animated movies started looking kind of homogeneous. And while studios and independent artists tested out more stylized approaches in short films, no studio would commit to a feature-length animated movie that looked so different.
That is, until Sony Pictures/Imageworks took on Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. Instead of chasing the look everyone was after, the team wanted to create something visually new. They did it with “non-photorealistic rendering.”
And since Spider-Verse, non-photorealism has taken off, with almost every studio set to incorporate it in the next five years. Check out our video to learn more about how non-photorealism works.
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@fireaza Год назад

Sony was one of the first studios to realize you're never going to beat Disney and Pixar by copying Disney and Pixar.

@Muhsin-ox1vj Год назад

And they made morbius 🤦

@keithpasia2993 Год назад

@@Muhsin-ox1vj morbius is good

@checcmac8693 Год назад

@@Muhsin-ox1vj 🤓🤓

@Muhsin-ox1vj Год назад

@@keithpasia2993 yeah, morbius is the most movie ever. It is just like the movies that Disney makes. And that is my point

@ayushmansingh261 Год назад

Now they are making 2d r rated movies name fixed

@alexvu2549 Год назад

Animation is a medium, NOT a genre. It’s time we as a society start respecting animation as much as any other medium

@swagatbaruah7839 Год назад

Yes , animations are a different medium to convey those feelings of a scene which cannot be created in a real movie. 😌

@mtk3755 Год назад

True animation can do lot more than live action will ever do. And it takes lot of hardwork and hours for it to look good.

@psypsy751 Год назад

Animation is the best medium, imo.

@chowderchowdown Год назад

That's why I like Love Death and Robots. Every episode has its own unique art style.

@mcspikesky Год назад

I enjoy the genre of animated films.

@XXSQUIDGLEYXX Год назад

The real crime was death of 2D animation. Princess and the frog was such a beautiful film especially compared to newer Disney

@qrowing Год назад

Or that sort of traditional 2D+3D blend that Disney was doing in the 90s. Things like Tarzan's sliding sequence using 3D assets, or basically ALL of Treasure Planet.

@jocastadidntknew5980 11 месяцев назад

@@qrowing They’re doing a 2D/3D blend for the upcoming Wish, for what that’s worth.

@333dae 11 месяцев назад

western 2d animation mostly died but eastern 2d animation is still alive and well luckily

@iitvoii 11 месяцев назад

@@jocastadidntknew5980 Wish is like a lightweight attempt at that these movies are doing. They really could have pushed it more, but Disney is still being too safe.

@blockman3508 11 месяцев назад

At least Tangled tried to keep the style and spirit of hand-drawn animation in a 3d-rendered medium. Nothing they've made since has really held up to that.

@didyouwashyourlegstoday3601 Год назад

I think The Lego Movie, The Peanuts Movie, Captain Underpants, and Klaus deserve a mention as stepping stones that lead up to Spiderverse. Spiderverse didn't come out of nowhere but it was def game changer for the industry.

@LutraLovegood Год назад

The biggest game changer for Spiderverse was Studio Orange and their adaptation of Land of the Lustrous (they also adapted Beastars more recently)

@Dramilos Год назад

THE LEGO MOVIE YEAH HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT IT (i totally didn't)

@KJCurry Год назад

facts

@nemlicklee Год назад

Spiderverse came out before Klaus

@biazacha Год назад

Imo The Lego Movie is lowkey the same situation as Toy Story, the materials, reflections and everything visual still very grounded.

@localtavernsluteplayer2182 Год назад

I'm seriously so glad people are getting over the whole "everything has to be realistic" trend, bring the art and magic back into art!!

@bearclaws5671 Год назад

Yes! If we wanted realism, then we'd turn to live action. Animation is an art, they can take liberties with it

@deanmoriarty6015 Год назад

agreed. we’re working with a medium that allows for quite literally *anything* to be possible and look any way, why not be creative with it?

@TheBlindnight Год назад

well i feel like there's some nuance to this. realism is an artistic choice that is far from being devoid of "art and magic". a large amount of pixar are absolutely wonderful and magical, which led to their success, and that success encouraged other studios to copy that style. it's lovely that we're moving away from an industry where that is the only valid form of animation, but i see a lot of people on here acting like this approach didn't give us gems like wall-e, ratatouille, coco, inside out, soul...

@travellerinthedark Год назад

I hope the games industry is paying attention!

@jjju3 Год назад

art can be realistic and still beautiful, pixar movies are _amazing._ wall-e blurs the line between realism and stylization perfectly, its incredibly artful. the problem is when there is a need to _conform_ to that style, like its the only option. hyper (sur)realism (as this video calls it) can be absolutely amazing, and its something that can only be done in cg, but i love seeing _more_ done in cg as well.

@jessical4866 Год назад

Klaus (2019) was also a breakout example of new animation. They embraced the old paper, hand-sketched animation style but supported with new technology, which captured the charm of a children’s storybook the way Spiderverse captured the quintessential superhero comic book. Both movies didn’t just pioneer new animating techniques, they specifically chose ones that would enhance the narrative of the film.

@jenniferchaulam Год назад

/Klaus was great!!! I cant believe this is the only comment mentioning it

@apexone5502 Год назад

Great example.

@Avi2Nyan Год назад

Yes! Klaus was refreshing and looked sO good

@sivawright Год назад

I wish someone would do a video on that

@chau8122 Год назад

The fact that Klaus is actually a whole 2D animation makes it super cool! Literally hand-sketched!

@Shaboops Год назад

After watching "The Bad Guys" I immediately saw the effect that Spider-Verse had on modern animation. It set a new bar and made it feel so fresh

@bria8481 Год назад

The bad guys was the freshest animation I had seen in years. I truly fell in love with it

@captaincanaveral 11 месяцев назад

The Bad Guys has become one of my go to on repeats for a while now; after reading your comment; I might've to rewatch it soon 😀

@kirbystar7474 11 месяцев назад

Okay again spiderverse wasn’t the first to do this style. The Peanuts movie was and had several scenes that had the paper or comic panel art style and also did captain underpants

@joshrivet6225 11 месяцев назад

@@kirbystar7474 those movies had some scenes, spiderverse was fully in comic book style and went much much more in depth with it

@kirbystar7474 11 месяцев назад

@@joshrivet6225 Spiderverse was mostly comic but still it got inspiration from peanuts and captain underpants therefore wasn’t the original

@Adan__bg 11 месяцев назад

After watching the new Spider-Man across the spiderverse movie it’s going to push it even further. The amount of art style blending with eachother was amazing to watch. Especially the opening sequence

@carlosandrescastromedina3100 11 месяцев назад

That first villain was soo joyful to watch, incredible sequence

@r0conscious 11 месяцев назад

That movie is mind blowing

@Civilianmusic 11 месяцев назад

Every scene is so artistic. Loved how different universes had different art styles

@ARCHIVED9610 11 месяцев назад

love spot honestly, everytime he was on screen the animation was ❤️

@zeroelus 11 месяцев назад

I LOVED how each world, and the characters from it, have their own different look. It's like they said "oh you like stylized, you ain't seen nothing yet"...and it works. Gwen's pintoresque world, Mumbattan's gorgeous colorful look, or the anarchic in every sense Hobbie. I want the move to come out in digital just to be able to soak in each scene. I feel like I missed at least half of what most scenes had in them.

@zaheersooliman1766 Год назад

Arcane is another great example of success outside the Pixar look!

@priyapepsi Год назад

it looks like The Clone Wars. not a bad thing but Arcane wasn't a pioneer of that faux-clay style of animation.

@antoniousethannaelhalim3807 Год назад

@@priyapepsi Arcane didn't mimic the faux clay style, they're using their own "splash screen" digital art style, which you can find when playing their game

@dramasoldier8669 Год назад

Klaus too even if it wasn't as massive of a succes

@chl_ca Год назад

@@priyapepsi although Arcane looks much better than the Clone Wars, whose artstyle looks muddy and not detailed enough

@ryllharu Год назад

@@priyapepsi Fortiche took another evolutionary leap beyond what Sony Animation Studios did with Spiderverse. There's a reason Arcane swept the 2022 Annie Awards. You or I might not notice how substantial a difference it is as viewers, but the animator community did.

@Roarchop Год назад

The reason animation exists is to make people and objects in a way that isn't possible in the real world. It doesn't need to get more and more realistic. It needs to be artistic (just my opinion btw)

@TheSpectacularRob Год назад

Yep it’s the same with painting. Usually people associate realism with great painting but that is a wrong way of thinking. The emphasis should be on the execution of the style

@toazethegecko Год назад

Truer words had never been spoken

@ferd617 Год назад

Eh, that's kind of limited thinking too, though. There's plenty of room for animation that _does_ emulate the real world as faithfully and realistically as possible - there's no reason that can't be a choice made by some animators, for some projects. But animation definitely doesn't have to be _limited_ by real-world constraints, and animators should feel free to completely ignore them if that's the style that works best for their story.

@argo9721 Год назад

@@ferd617 yeah that's the problem I see with a lot of these comments, they say it as if realism isn't a form of style or art

@aspara4788 Год назад

Exactly, Pixar's so fixated on realism in animating

@alejandrosantos5328 Год назад

I think Arcane on Netflix is a good example of breaking the formula. Also, I think video games are an untapped source of inspiration because there are SO MANY VIDEO GAMES that are 3d, with 3d cutscenes, that don’t follow the pixar standard. The Walking Dead comes to mind, also the Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, Genshin Impact, Journey, Sky: Children of Light, and Alice Madness Returns.

@caylya7869 11 месяцев назад

Yeah. It would be nice if films used that style of animation from video games. I do hope people realize if that does it happen. It takes inspirations from videos games and not solely spider-verse.

@rafaelc.c. 11 месяцев назад

True. Also, ther have been many animes in Japan that used similar techniques. And Star Wars The Clone Wars and Rebels used those painted textures and many of those techniques much prior to Into the Spiderverse. Not the first ever, but most ilkely the first ever in 3D animation. Not talked enough.

@lambousginiguccigod2007 11 месяцев назад

The legend of zelda Tears of the kingdom is probably going to get goty i hope

@cjd3053 10 месяцев назад

arcane is a masterpiece. I'm in love with that style

@unrulycrow6299 10 месяцев назад

Videogame-wise, Dishonored did a fantastic job at given us a painterly style that can now be found in the Spiderverse movies as well as Arcane. The "every shot is a wallpaper" painterly vibe.

@insertcoolnamelater9334 Год назад

Being a fan of Japanese animation, I've seen many different animation styles which are all amazing it their own way. The medium has so much potential if a studio is willing to be more creative.

@hamabe3159 Год назад

@Jaquan Kelsor yeah you right ghibli studios animation is so good !!!

@Nippontradamus Год назад

Exactly, we have a ton of cookie cutter generic styles, but also highly stylised shows, like Jojo, Bocchi, Gundam and Eizouken

@evilqueen-et1du Год назад

Beaststars enters the chat

@peterparker9954 11 месяцев назад

Anime is way too choppy and 2D for my taste

@rafaelc.c. 11 месяцев назад

In the USA people don't care about Eastern animation unless it's their "beloved" Studio Ghibli. There have been many animes that had been using for years mostly the same techniques Into the Spiderverse used, but they don't care, if it's made in the US it's more important. Either way, Star Wars The Clone Wars and Rebels did this same thing as well, much prior to Into the Spiderverse.

@Calikid331 Год назад

I wish they mentioned Arcane. The art style of the show is literally 10/10, not to mention an amazing story.

@Koubles Год назад

Wouldn't be suprised if fortiche animators met with sony animators at some point in both projects developments and realized just how similar they both were and shared ideas.

@KaterynaM_UA Год назад

@@Koubles they are not that similar though. Arcane went with handpainted projections. It's a very different style.

@geroni211 Год назад

Fortiche's style has been this way far before into the spiderverse, and their meshing of 2d and 3d effects is really different from the effect shown here

@enzodapan5016 Год назад

true

@mauz791 Год назад

That show looks beautiful, really similar to the Dishonored games

@madmarble0601 Год назад

Animation should be a medium meant to express creativity. Glad to see that we’re going into a new era of more creative style of using this amazing medium! :3

@user-op8fg3ny3j Год назад

Yeah, i personally don't like photorealism.

@liamness Год назад

This is why I was always a bit concerned about the mooted live action adaptations of Avatar: The Last Airbender from Netflix. They necessarily would have to create a series that is visually saddled with the constraints of reality. No silly visual jokes that don't make physical sense. A requirement to find young actors with an extraordinary range of talents (comedic timing, convincing physicality in the fights, and an ability to bring dramatic weight when needed) and who are the appropriate fit ethnically speaking too. Oh and all the CG has to be convincingly "real", or at least close enough to not be distracting! The original series worked perfectly to the strengths of the animated medium, and also a saturday morning cartoon ("bending" is a perfect invention for when you want dramatic fights in your show, but you also don't want to have the "don't try this at home" problem). Netflix seemed ready to throw those advantages away... but I'd love to see them rethink this and go for a stylized animated CG show. The success of "Into the Spider-Verse" probably makes that all the more likely.

@JinsKookieJams Год назад

*Should be? It has always been a medium though! 🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️*

@twiglegg508 Год назад

Just hoping we don't lose the old 2d styles and stop motion along the way

@JinsKookieJams Год назад

@@twiglegg508 *Nah, I don't think we will lose those. The studios Laika and Aardman are still around to make stop motion. 2D will be around too. There's still a big enough audience for all sorts of styles. 🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️*

@TiasTravels Год назад

The history of Bolt makes me sad! Films like Klaus, Song of the Sea, Wolfwalkers and Into The Spider-verse (and shows like What If) are SO COOL and bring something new and exciting to the table. Would love to see more stylized work coming out of the big studios

@whenthemoon Год назад

Bolt was one of my favorite films when i was younger, seeing what the animation could’ve been is really disappointing :(

@HeyLeFay 11 месяцев назад

Yep, just like how the concept art for Frozen was very stylized and much more visually interesting, only to end up being pretty generic in the 3D format

@user-vl8ck4gz6w 11 месяцев назад

? what you mean. Spiderverse is a big studio its not indie small. There are in fact MANY movies with different styles before spiderverse but most of them are shorts. You wanna knkw why? Money and risk. Those two are the reason why most animation movie look similar. Risk: Doing something unique narrows your target audience and if you fail might completely flop and not bring in enough money to make a profit. Money: Unique movies cost a lot more money to make. Time for art direction costs money. Making all the assets takes time. Since other movies they can probably reuse assets and overall fynctions like lightning and physics for similar looking movies. For unique movies everything needa to be done from scratch. Thats why unique movies are better in shorts for companies. Less risk to lose money and less time involved making them. Doing movies like spiderverse is a huge risk and I can guarantuee you the reason it workes is because its the spiderman IP AND the first cinematic appearance of Miles Morales Spiderman which out of many different spidermans in the comic world has a now established fanbase over the last 12 years. If this wouldve been an original movie or unknow new IP 100 percent it wouldve flopped due to costs. No matter how good the animation or plot wouldve been. Look at el dorado and Treasure planets. Imo really great movies but flopped hard in box office because of weird timing and not following 3d animation trend and bad promotion due to being "original" movies. Everyone knows how Spidermans story goes. Its easier to market

@inka8367 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for bringing up Wolfwalkers, this film is an absolute gem!

@Miriam-bl9ig 11 месяцев назад

YES I love Song of the Sea

@Kacper42PL 11 месяцев назад

I am not a massive Spiderman fan, but I will forever be thankful for Into the Spiderverse for breaking out of the boring and overdone Pixar style into the incredible stylized masterpiece

@oh-noe 7 месяцев назад

I didn't even look at Spiderman or any superhero film for that matter. But the two spiderverse movies pulled me in and I have watched both of them. they are eye candy to look at

@onepresence9460 Год назад

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Paperman, Klaus, Arcane, The Mitchells vs. The Machines and The Bad Guys are changing the Animation industry forever. And for the better of course. I’m really happy that they are starting to take risks, studios are willing to give more money and time for the animators to create high quality stuff. Hopefully they keep this way 👍

@JoshRyanimation Год назад

A lot of people overlook Paperman. It came out 10 years ago and was integral in the evolution of a style outside Pixars usual look. It was developed from a lot of the same tools and software that gave the realistic look. We want to think that Sony blew the doors open with Spiderverse, and they did, but there have been projects like this that cracked the door open first.

@annecutebert Год назад

Love death robots is amazing

@onepresence9460 Год назад

@@JoshRyanimation I remember watching the Paperman short before Wreck-It-Ralph played at the theater. Still to this day, i'm amazed about the animation.

@onepresence9460 Год назад

@@annecutebert Agreed. It's definitely my favorite Netflix show :D

@JessAnderson1988 Год назад

Add Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The Peanuts Movie, Feast, and Paperman to that list.

@theokid2000 Год назад

Both Arcane and Bad Guys, i feel are the newest followups to this trend. Its really been a breath of fresh air for animation, and I'm so thankful that spiderverse broke the ice on it.

@JoshRyanimation Год назад

I would say Paperman by Disney about 10 years ago was the first the break the ice, Spiderverse just smashed it into pieces.

@mrrager13 11 месяцев назад

After watching the new Spiderman: Across the Spiderverse yesterday. I must say I am extremely happy they took this route. The movie was so visually beautiful and intense. The creativity they can produce because it doesn’t have to be realistic makes the movie standout. Great movie and excited for the next.

@adambuchbinder2791 11 месяцев назад

I went to see it this evening, and the trailers for animated movies were for the new TMNT and Disney's "Wish", both of which used varying levels of stylization in rendering. Good on the people at Sony for taking a chance. The industry is remarkably conservative; someone has to take the leap first.

@mrrager13 11 месяцев назад

@@adambuchbinder2791 conservative to the max. Once something works once, everyone copies and tries to squeeze every penny out of it.

@BestOneEver247 7 месяцев назад

@@mrrager13 that's not how it works

@mrrager13 7 месяцев назад

@@BestOneEver247 not how what works?

@MemesAreFriendsNotFood Год назад

Not only does Monster House’s concept art look so much better than the final, it also matches the story much better. It’s so unfortunate that it’s normalized to just do whatever’s popular at the time

@user-ki6id4vt8u 11 месяцев назад

It’s still a masterpiece as it is though

@thebigfatboo Год назад

They went from trying their hardest to make cartoons lifelike to looking like what they truly are, cartoons. And cartoons can be whatever they want. Lovin it.

@Caterfree10 Год назад

If you want another example of why stylization over chasing realism is good, compare the “I Can’t Wait to Be King” sequences in the original and live action versions of Lion King. The original has so much color and pizzazz bc it’s emulating Simba’s imagination. Meanwhile, the live action wants to be a documentary and as such has absolutely none of that original charm bc it’s basically just Simba and Nala running in the savannah. Indie game devs are aware of how stylization is often better instead of chasing realism, and as such keep to that to give their games that little bit of edge in a hyper competitive market. Film animation could really stand to do the same, and I hope this trend of stylization continues.

@anthony7564 Год назад

While I agree with the majority of your points, the indie game devs can't chase hyper-realism moreso because they don't have the time luxury and/or the AAA budget which is needed to render all those A+ looking realism environments in a reasonable amount of production time. The tendency for indies to go for stylization is a necessity borne out of budget constraints rather than some artistic enlightenment imo.

@Avi2Nyan Год назад

@@anthony7564 sure, but they also use it to their advantage

@onsokumaru4663 Год назад

The whole 88 minutes of 1994 The Lion King is great stylised piece of animation.

@Blue-Apple-fc9eo Год назад

@@onsokumaru4663 Yup beat the live-action lion king “movie” can't really call it a movie I call it a tech demo.

@Caterfree10 Год назад

@@humanbean7884 I mean, as another commenter pointed out, stylization is actually preferred by indies largely bc they don’t have the budget for realism. Chasing realism is also why AAA games have such bloated budgets anymore (among other reasons anyway).

@xSinitsu 11 месяцев назад

Across The Spider-Verse really took their First Movie and thought "yeah, we can do better then just that"

@davidtannehill4409 11 месяцев назад

Honestly, Pixar could learn a thing, or two from the Spider-Verse movies. Not to bash on Pixar, but come on. You can't deny that Miles' story is beyond breathtaking in every way, shape, and form.

@Kaerimasu Год назад

Only legends remember who actually came up with this visual style for Sony. The work put into this film by Alberto Mielgo is undeservedly forgotten

@mohammedmarjan4300 Год назад

He is the one who brought this breakthrough to the world. Fortunately Alberto is flexing and pushing boundaries of his creativity in LDR.

@z-chan946 Год назад

WHAT IM SAYING

@TheLingo56 Год назад

It's interesting how he started with TV. For the most part TV animation couldn't get away with realistic animation since the budget couldn't pull it off. Seems like an interesting tale of budget constraints eventually leading to creative evolution.

@TrickyNick79 Год назад

Jibaro is an extraordinary piece of animation too. So excited to see what he does next

@shush916 Год назад

I was really happy his short film won the Oscar

@tintincruz8660 Год назад

I'm amazed Arcane isn't even mentioned, I mean it went in production years before Spider verse and still tried to pioneer the same mixed style of animation. I think they also deserve to be recognized for it.

@Merlincat007 Год назад

Arcane is the show I yell from rooftops! It's amazing haha though I think Spiderverse went into production earlier. I think it took like 10 years from early conceptualization?

@jesseomollo9405 Год назад

I remember hearing about the animated Spiderman movie during the amazing Spider-Man days, so I believe it's Been in development longer than arcane

@emilioalvear8440 Год назад

That’s not true. Spider verse was in development before arcane was

@tintincruz8660 Год назад

@@emilioalvear8440 I just searched it. Apparently they both pitched it on the same year, 2014. Still, Arcane deserves a mention for its groundbreaking style.

@caylya7869 11 месяцев назад

@@emilioalvear8440 They were pitched the same year. But spider verse didn’t influence arcane.

@jovsdimacali6193 Год назад

The point is, what kind of animation does a story need? It's an expression of emotion not just creativity. It's beyond what looks good and not, but how effective an animation is in storytelling.

@logandulken163 Год назад

I think the LEGO movies should get a shoutout too. Yes they are trying to be hyper realistic looking LEGO characters, but the animation isn’t just simple stuff you’ll usually see. It sets limitations for itself only allowing the real life motions and pieces to be used for the animation.

@iloveyouuuu135 Год назад

*Such* a well-made movie. I genuinely think it’s one of the best made animated movies of all time.

@onemorechris Год назад

yep. it’s so well done

@petraexe Год назад

@@-Scrapper- the prince of egypt tho

@rurutuM Год назад

watch more non western animation

@petraexe Год назад

@@-Scrapper- pov: you never watched a studio ghibli movie

@leafymeadow9811 Год назад

@@petraexe let them like what they want to like lol

@that_is_so_meta Год назад

What I think is really interesting and often overlooked is how the “Pixar look” evolved overtime. In fact it wasn’t Pixar that refined the look…it was Dreamworks in collaboration with Roger Deakins on the Dragon’s movies. One thing was clear at the time was the studios had the capabilities to light and build photorealistic scenes but they didn’t apply it in a naturalistic way in the view of the camera. Roger coached the animation teams to think in terms of natural light and apply it correctly. That happened in HTTYD and subsequently influenced the thinking over the past 10 years.

@turbotaquitogoogle8095 Год назад

Gotta love the Deak

@cassielcruzchavolla809 Год назад

HTTYD 2 had some really wonderful backgrounds.

@capo3645 Год назад

sorry this isn't true... ratatouille is the film that truly defined the modern (but pre-raytracing) pixar look... and it came out in 2007. IT's also worth noting that both WALL-E and Up came out before HTTYD... and Toy Story 3 came out only a few months after it and so couldn't possibly have been affected by it (it would have been basically finished by then). Even Tangled came out the same year and so was probably not really affected since they would have been years into production by that time. tl;dr pixar was doing the realistic lighting thing years before httyd

@rafaelc.c. 11 месяцев назад

I don't think that's actually correct.

@alexismiller288 Год назад

Not a 3D animation but _The Tale of the Princess Kaguya_ is absolutely stylized & gorgeous and NEEDS to be watched by everyone.

@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes Год назад

Omg YES, it's wonderful

@waffleo8035 11 месяцев назад

many frames in the movie could be a painting!!

@dawammardhonansyah6741 11 месяцев назад

@@waffleo8035 literally everyframe a painting

@carlosandrescastromedina3100 11 месяцев назад

I get it’s not a movie but Arcane needs a mention too, that show is freaking awesome and beautiful, I’m so glad we are getting this kind of quality with interesting artistic animation 🤞🏼

@viero4963 Год назад

As a 3D animation student, I can’t thank this film enough for the creative shockwaves it has sent through the industry! Exciting times!

@stroberies Год назад

3D animation student here too! Can't wait to break into the industry 😁 Best of luck to you!

@viero4963 Год назад

@@stroberies best of luck to you too, buddy! Just got my first reel out and applied to some jobs 😶 hoping for the best haha

@stroberies Год назад

@@viero4963 that's so awesome! I'm sure the company that you’ll work for will be lucky to have you :-)

@austinjoseph2881 Год назад

@@viero4963 this was SUCH a wholesome conversation! Wish you both the best!!

@austinjoseph2881 Год назад

@@stroberies this was SUCH a wholesome conversation! Wish you both the best!!

@oweno3703 Год назад

As someone who has written a physically based path tracer, as well as done work in non-physically based rendering, the problem is not that people don't want to use these looks, the problem is the complexity of tooling required to support an artists vision, or more problematically, infinitely many artist visions. Physically based rendering is, in a sense, easy because it is constrained by what exists in the real world, and therefore you can create one tool, actually validate that it is working correctly because you have a ground truth to compare to, then give it to every artist, and they can use it on every film/tv show. To do these artistic styles requires custom tools for every new show to achieve the desired look, and it is difficult to make a tool that can be art directed in infinitely many ways. AI style transfer is the closest thing we have to a generic solution but it isn't quite ready to be used in industry because you don't have enough control over specific local details.

@dibbidydoo4318 Год назад

This.

@gregkrazanski Год назад

what's your point though? that it's hard? if all the artists at fortiche and sony could collaborate and create arcane, spiderverse, then i don't really see what the problem is. isn't it just like a similar, perhaps scaled up problem of different 2d animators all having to draw characters on model? I think i'm just not sure what you're hoping people get out of your comment. that 3d animation shouldn't evolve because it'll be too difficult?

@vlusky_husky Год назад

@@gregkrazanski yes. they are indeed saying it is harder. you'll have to develop a whole another render pipeline if you want to suit a particular style. the artists basically need to have close ties with the pipeline devs or BE the dev themselves. and i think that's part of what makes them so admirable. hopefully soon we will have easier ways of programming our own render pipelines but for now we're going to need deep understanding of both art itself and computer rendering shaders.

@alisonlaett9625 Год назад

@@gregkrazanski harder usually equals more expensive. I think they're saying that until the AI style transfer becomes widely available, most projects will continue with the more realistic animation style, as that reliably makes Disney and Pixar profit at a lower cost.

@patchpen5613 Год назад

It's still kinda because people weren't looking for these looks before. If they were, I'd imagine the tools (or the tools behind the tools) would have been made more common or easier to use to meet that demand, and the issues you brought up wouldn't have been issues for long. I mean if the tools didn't even exist, they wouldn't have been used for those shorts and sequences that he brings up.

@westonblock7097 11 месяцев назад

Who’s here after being blown AWAY from Across the Spiderverse?!? ♥️🖤🕷️🕸️

@ameliastefani 11 месяцев назад

@kokopuffs8318 Год назад

I saw into the spider verse on a late night in a theatre years ago. I left in awe after it ended. Seriously this whole movie is a technological marvel and an artistic masterpiece. The fight scenes were insanely well done and blew my mind. They switched back and forth into comic frames and experimented with some very cool effects I've never seen before.

@andrewallbright658 Год назад

I love how more studios are adopting a painterly aesthetic. But also @Vox why wasn't Arcane featured _at all_ in this video? Arcane animation is exactly the example to use for this topic!

@David-gs3ud Год назад

Lol, they’re stuck pulling examples from 2017

@lsedge7280 Год назад

I think because they focused on feature length films. As far as shorter animation goes, there are a lot of examples (Arcane is a high profile and very successful one), but taking the risk on feature films in particular was considered particularly dangerous

@decrpt_ Год назад

@@lsedge7280 Arcane is longer than a movie, and had a similar budget to Into the Spider-verse. That's not the reason.

@bri1085 Год назад

@@decrpt_ they are made for different mediums, animation on series is allowed a lot more leeway in how they animated their shows

@jonasw3945 Год назад

They could've mentioned also the actual inspiration behind the style of into the spider verse, which is anime, speicifically the Houseki no kuni anime

@Sant182 Год назад

One thing I didn't hear you mention was the immense influence Japanese animation has had on artists pushing the medium away from hyperrealism. A lot of the visual language in Spiderverse was influenced by it like the varying frame rates in character movement.

@ian3087 Год назад

nah what influence? japanese animation style is not even a good for developing fundamentals in animation. Anime was created to be as cheap and fast to produce type of animation. Thats why bigger projects like western animation movies dont use anime way of animating.

@LutraLovegood Год назад

@@ian3087 Watch Mushoku Tensei and tell me about how it was cheap and fast to make

@NIREV Год назад

@@ian3087 said by someone who clearly doesn't know anything about animation

@ian3087 Год назад

@@didyouwashyourlegstoday3601 and dont use miyasaki as an example, osamu tezuka is the better person to represent anime.

@mamatila123 Год назад

@@ian3087 they didnt?? they were just mentioning that the directors used Miyasaki's work as a reference, not that it represented anime

@AAAGamesMaster Год назад

I feel like Hotel Transylvania did the same thing but for character movement, characters in Hotel Transylvania move like 2D drawings, they are more expressive and cartoony, something most animated movies never did to that extent in 3D, and I'm happy that other movies like Captain Underpants and the new spongebob movie (even if the movie itself is not good) did that

@TheAnimatorOfOpallyon Год назад

Curiously enough, Gendy Tartakovsky, the creator of Hotel Transilvania is more known for being a pioneer at 2d animation as he is the creator of cartoons like "Dexter's Lab" "Samurai Jack" and others.

@rafaelc.c. 11 месяцев назад

That's very true. Disney always had that point as well, but Hotel Transylvania did it even more expressively.

@noahbodhi8657 11 месяцев назад

And they pushed boundries further. Across the spiderverse is amazing!

@wesmorton1247 Год назад

I think new series like Arcane also speak to the evolution of animation as a medium. You are getting a lot more experimentation, mixing photo realism, 3D, 2D, and textures into one frame. Very cool!

@wesmorton1247 Год назад

@Simple way fun Thinking animation is distinct from TV or movies. Feels like a different way of translating meaning. Like a book vs. a radio show. Animation should be a class of its own.

@endamcnabola Год назад

And it was in production long before Spider-Verse.

@Pulvrk1n-ti5hp Год назад

@@endamcnabola yeee

@zikibay Год назад

As my animation professor once said, 'If you want the realism so bad, take a video camera and go film it'

@zebius4157 Год назад

**laughs in terrible fate**

@butter-biscuit2248 10 месяцев назад

Watched the new spiderverse movie and it was absolutely MIND BLOWING!!! I loved it so much!! It really felt like an animated comic book, and the way all the styles combined were PERFECT!! It’s really refreshing to see this new wave in animation

@tzarsman3234 11 месяцев назад

I love stylized animation. It's what makes them so different from eachother.

@lsedge7280 Год назад

I think Pixar's style is amazing, but I also love variety, and sometimes these other styles fit their films even better. "Into the Spiderverse" has lights revealing a texture, very reminiscent of the dotted pattern of colouring/shading seen in classic comic books. It's also a film adaption of comics.

@Blackout88999 Год назад

2:14 It almost looks like he's interviewing himself

@Lee-os1if 10 месяцев назад

This is precisely why the 2 Spiderverse movies are my favorite animated movies ever. They have revolutionized the way animation is implemented in movies forever (not saying they are solely responsible for this as there are other movies pushing the same concepts/ideas but not nearly on the same level as Spiderverse). Pair this fantastic stylistic animation with an amazing storyline, relatable characters, brilliant pacing, hilarious quotes and we've got ourselves real masterpieces in both of the spiderverse films.

@shradhapatnaik3197 10 месяцев назад

Even the new netflix Pinocchio with stop motion animation was a very good movie..

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Год назад

I was hoping this video would briefly cover the milestones made by _Paperman,_ _Klaus,_ and _Arcane_ in the medium of non-photorealistic and stylized 3D animation.

@valentinagiorgi3835 Год назад

true but Klaus was 2D not 3d

@philipmurphy2 Год назад

This video is why animation shouldn't be owned by just one company, Competition is key to healthy animation for sure.

@RadialSeeker113 Год назад

It isn't tho. They've just been so good at it so consistently that other studios use them as "inspiration" for their work. Look at arcane for e.g. It was created by a studio with no real history in terms of animated work besides a few music videos for riot. And imo, they've made the best looking animated series to date. Precedence doesn't matter any more.

@peterdavids31 Год назад

Do you mean competition?

@philipmurphy2 Год назад

@@peterdavids31 Yes.

@PirateOfTheNorth 11 месяцев назад

Across the spiderverse was a visual treat

@JeyC_ 9 месяцев назад

It's not leading to somewhere "new", it's heading back to the original. Where animation is like the fantasy sort of genre. Escapism from the real world to something that's not found in our world Back to the original

@astridallenmand917 9 месяцев назад

Yeah. I have this feeling too. This new era is literally living pictures, with saving most of expression of art. This kind of art from 19th century when feelings were above an idea, but with a difference of that bottomless mount of experience, techs and stories lay between beauty of that art and modern animation

@azj_ Год назад

For me, Spiderman Into The Spiderverse is the one of my favorite animated cartoon movies because, the cartoon movie has its own uniqueness compared to other animated cartoon movies due to the production animation are very good and carefully work. It's like looking at a comic book that is moving by its own. In fact, this film won the Oscar Awards for the best animated cartoon film candidate for 2018. *(Sorry if my English has error)*

@microdavid7098 Год назад

when I first saw spiderman into the spiderverse, I expected it to be a game. Was surprised it'd be a movie. But even as a game, it would look nice. Looking to copy a few things from that style

@Anime_theatre_lover Год назад

Spider verse is the only Spider-Man movie I have seen (no negative comments please)

@sonicfanboy3375 Год назад

@@Anime_theatre_lover Don't worry your not missing out anything

@curtisbme Год назад

Some of the recent TV shows should have been mentioned here as far as breaking free from the Pixar look. While they have always been a bit more free than big movies, the art style seen in things recently like Castlevania, to Love, Death, and Robots, to Arcane: League of Legends shows that amazing, stylized animation is alive and well.

@biazacha Год назад

Castlevania is very reminiscent of the action cartoons from the early 2000s like Justice League, Avatar or Batman Beyond. Really wish we got to see 2D outside the bubbly cartoony look more often in western media.

@thedrawingbard 11 месяцев назад

And with Across the spider verse they just made everything absurdly amazing

@scarletg.cortes495 Год назад

Hopefully this launches a new renaissance for animation

@mamatila123 Год назад

I am so excited for this

@quinnmarchese6313 Год назад

Into the Spider-Verse and Mitchell's vs The Machines are legitimately two of the best animated films of all time, reaching heights that most reserve for Studio Ghibli.

@drakeburnett7254 Год назад

I agree with this! Mitchells vs the Machines is also painfully relatable to me and my family history

@quinnmarchese6313 Год назад

@@drakeburnett7254 for me, MvstM is less about how relatable it can get, but also how fun it is as a concept, the cyberpunk inspired visuals paired with Mark Mothersbaugh's (of Devo) soundtrack, the casual LGBT representation in the main character, and just how good it is as a family movie.

@drakeburnett7254 Год назад

@@quinnmarchese6313 Oh yeah it’s all of those things too, it’s just the fact that I related to it on top of all that that made me love it so much

@onepresence9460 Год назад

Spider-Verse, The Mitchells and Studio Ghibli are all perfect. Great taste 👌

@papabillydeth4723 Год назад

Mitchell’s Vs the Machines was a fun movie but it felt like it was made for a kid with adhd who scrolls tik tok every second

@lolidkstudio Год назад

Spider-Man: into the Spider-Verse is a hotpot of melting components, sourced from the highest quality dealers, and the hotpot is one of the best things I’ve tasted

@makintoshxd Год назад

Spider-man into the spider-verse is what got me into animation and pursuing it as a career. The essence of animation is not to mimic hyper-realistic environments to its core, but the art of storytelling and strokes, with the pencil marks and rough sketch feeling, makes animation such a wonderful medium to portray a film. animation started with a simple pen and paper and a few flips of pages, to only constrain it to fulfillment if realistic movements it would lose all of its artistic charm and uniqueness.

@MDV245 Год назад

3:51 it's a leap of faith, that's all it is

@TheSnufking Год назад

Missed opportunity not mentioning Arcane in this context. It also took a risk in a new style and was super successful.

@lukky6648 Год назад

Arcane bleeds style and innovation. Might just be the best looking series on the market in a decade or two

@P0k3D0nd3M4cG Год назад

Arcane is not a feature film

@GavinBekks Год назад

I wouldnt say that the style is new, it was based off of the riot splash art, which in the art community is considered one of the greatest art styles.

@user-dh8oi2mk4f Год назад

@@P0k3D0nd3M4cG This video was about animation, not feature films...

@arpitnayak18 Год назад

I think people always forget The Song of the Sea. I think if you talk about stylised animation, it's in a league of its own.

@elimo3901 Год назад

Loved this movie, I always cry. But isn't it 2D? That's the huge difference, because 2D is normally stylized whereas it's new in 3D films that are usually hyper-realistic, which is why they address it in regards to Spider-verse to begin with.

@MrWeezeloner Год назад

Song of the Sea and the Secret of Kells informed me that European children must be way more emotionally mature than American ones. My poor daughter just could not handle the fact that the mother left her children. She cried for about two hours, "But she just left. Why" And with the Secret of Kells when the vikings arrived and started pillaging it looked really scary. My wife and I looked towards our daughter almost at the same time and were so relieved that she had fallen asleep. We thought she was going to be staring in shock.

@any.user.allowed. 9 месяцев назад

I wonder what will be the next big step, Pixar effect, Spiderverse effect, I have no idea what could be next.

@memr1a Год назад

I used to think that the "photo surrealistic" style was one of the reasons animation is so underestimated. The thing with animation is it can elevate reality (eg. With studio ghibli & shinkai films) but it can also be an incredibly powerful story telling tool through use of different textures & lighting (eg. Spiderverse, Klaus, Arcane). While the results of the realistic style is beautiful in its own way, I cant help but think that sometimes its quite limiting. Really glad to see new shows that do something different.

@LutraLovegood Год назад

Nah, the reason it's underestimated is because most adults think animation is only for children. Anybody who has seen Perfect Blue, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Serial Experiments Lain, etc knows. And in the west most movie buffs (including critics) don't even watch animation if it's not western or Ghibli.

@floppyearfriend 10 месяцев назад

@@LutraLovegood "And in the west most movie buffs (including critics) don't even watch animation if it's not western or Ghibli" Not my experience at all, most movie buffs I know love animation. Even my cousin, massive film buff who introduced me to cinema as an artform but who tends to have fairly "mainstream" interests, loves anime.

@moogleydoot Год назад

There's also Klaus, Arcane and Bad Guys! I wish Bolt and Monster House ended up like the concept art, that would've been amazing, I love both those movies. It makes me so happy to finally see all these new art styles in the big studios. Can't wait to see what people do next.

@Xgil2Play 11 месяцев назад

Klaus was snobbed at Oscars and I'm still upset about it. 2D animation replicating 3D lighting and shading. Klaus was fantastic.

@kevinlasher1198 Год назад

It’s not about the money Spider-man…

@luciusrex8604 Год назад

OHH IT'S ABOUT THE METS BABY! THE METS!

@batman_2004 Год назад

We'll meet again... Spiderman.

@thestruggler7926 11 месяцев назад

One reason why I always preferred 2D animation over 3D is because the 2D styles are really diverse. I always loved 2D American and Japanese animated movies because the styles vary so much. 3D movies just look too similar which is why I wanted to study 2D instead despite it not being that popular anymore.

@ProdbyWilliam 11 месяцев назад

just realising that not a single shot from the trailer of into the spider verse made it to the movie

@tastyneck Год назад

This film really holds true to the adage of 'every frame a painting'. I still can't believe this came from Sony but kudos to them for allowing the film time and leeway to create this masterpiece. Akso, The Mitchells vs Machines is a film that feels like doesn't get talked about enough.

@AlexOlinkiewicz Год назад

The thing that makes me not a fan of the "PIXAR Look" is that if you're really trying so hard to make the animated world realistic, then why bother being an animated film and just be a Live-Action film. This is why I love films like Spider-verse, Mitchells vs the Machines, Klaus, Loving Vincent, and even films like Hotel Transylvania over many Disney/Pixar animated films, cause they actually feel like they are actually using the artform that just wouldn't really work in Live-Action.

@onepresence9460 Год назад

I agree with you for the most part 👍 Personally, i only disagree about your live-action statement. I don’t think some Pixar stories like Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, Coco, Inside Out and Soul would really work in live-action imo. But that’s just me 🤷‍♂️

@perrylets Год назад

Because Pixar isn't making stylistic movies, it makes highly stylized movies, just not in the same sense as spider verse. Realism isn't bad animation, I still loved spiderverse but one style isn't better than the other

@Wudstick 11 месяцев назад

i never felt so proud of being born in this generation like as a kid i grew up watching pixar style animation which made me connect to these films much better as a child, but now as an adult i get to experience more stylized and variety of version. We all gotta agree those cartoons were not just cartoons for our life and they served their purpose very well.

@Hungry_God 11 месяцев назад

The rule of cool is key to any good animation. Monty oum was doing similar things as into the spiderverse years ago, too bad be died before things could really kick off.

@eysan90 Год назад

The most successful animes are the ones who go all out with the stylistic animation. Especially their movies. That alone should show us how well received non photo realistic animation is

@Ajourneyofknowing Год назад

Or you know the once that actually have a artistic identity

@LutraLovegood Год назад

Akira is still one of the best looking movies ever made, and it used both 2D and 3D!

@crreamuu Год назад

Spider-verse art style was always unique for me. It’s one of my favorite art style in all animated movies I’ve seen. It’s just soo unique!

@chenloz6178 Год назад

nope, Fortiche studio kind the first implemented that kind of 2d-3d ranging art style. The reason why people see "Spider-verse's artstyle is unique" is because of the dominance of their IP which is kind the overrated at some point to those who knew who used "that artstyle".

@crreamuu Год назад

@@chenloz6178 okay, no one asked

@thieftheodore Год назад

@@chenloz6178 studio orange with Land of Lustrous beat them them first. Spider-Verse animator directly cited the anime as their inspiration

@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 Год назад

@@thieftheodore Wait what? They were inspired by an anime? That explains why the Manga Spiderman (or lady) was in that film

@z-chan946 Год назад

@@thieftheodore which animator did

@Human_of_Wisdom_Says 11 месяцев назад

The way spiderverse was animated- AH 😻😻

@coreylstorytells 11 месяцев назад

this aged so well. the new one is amazing

@shilstone_arts Год назад

I never understood why you would try to replicate reality with a medium that is meant to create new ones. Happy to see the industry pivot away from photo realism.

@LutraLovegood Год назад

The only photorealism in the animation industry is live action movies.

@acmulhern Год назад

Into the spiderverse is a masterpiece. And hopefully pixar leans that way soon, because their concoet art is superior to what their finished product ends up being.

@hiitscupid3504 9 месяцев назад

I just cant articulate how gorgeous that shot of miles jumping off the skyscraper is. everything is so sharp, so focused, and it makes my little artist heart sing

@paulanonuevo5678 11 месяцев назад

I was rewatching Into the Spiderverse for the third time (before watching Across the Spiderverse) and I find myself gets teary eyed moment to moment. I truly appreciate the animation in this movie.

@AntTonyLOLKID Год назад

When I was studying at my creative arts uni, it came to my attention that current animation (just before Into The Spiderverse came out) lost it's creativity and use of exaggerations and hyperboles by focusing on realism. When Spiderverse came out, it was a great example of how animation used to be, but with the technology we have today. Actually added the joy of viewing an animation

@dexter2092 Год назад

agree!

@LutraLovegood Год назад

You should have watched more TV shows and Japanese animation, plenty of creativity left there.

@kiriappeee Год назад

For anyone interested in this, highly recommend picking up the art of into the spider verse. It’s an absolute treat to see how the concepts were developed over time.

@joshrivet6225 11 месяцев назад

into the spiderverse will be the most important animated movie for a long time because it has made a new renaissance of great and beautiful movies

@astridallenmand917 9 месяцев назад

I believe that this is a new era of animation, finally animation becomes more art than a modeled movies for kids. This new style combines pros of 2D and 3D animation, it includes more expression, best techs and features of what was invented and mastered by modern generation of artists and animators. I am so happy to be alive and encounter what is made and going to be created

@lmaoqasim Год назад

I thought animation was easy till a close friend of mine took a course in it for his university and holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy... I have so much respect for animators now.

@mizucure Год назад

I wish they brought up the Kirby Krackle in the movie. It’s such a great nod toward old comic books that it makes me jealous. When I first watched the movie, I said “No way” out loud when I saw the Kirby Krackle. Everyone in the airplane stared at me.

@kamsam6914 10 месяцев назад

Watching the Spider-Verse movies as an adult makes me feel like a kid again. I remember watching Spectacular Spider-Man, reading the comics but nothing ever came close to the nostalgia and excitement until now. Honestly some of the best animation of all time

@cwai_art Год назад

I love how they approached this, in school we learned how to use the renderers by doing realistic lighting, but when it came to projects, I was never satisfied with how the lighting turned out because it wasn't believable when we tried to make it look more like our concept art. Large studios taking risks really helps give smaller companies and artists more courage to pursue our goals.

@baldwinfilms Год назад

I suppose it forced “western” animation to evolve yeah but I do feel other countries were already taking risks - spider verse was probably the most exciting though simply because it was taking the risk with such a well known IP

@azj_ Год назад

It's not about the money Spider-man.... *IT'S ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE*

@abigails4088 Год назад

it's about... THE METS BABY, LETS GO METS!

@MegaChickenfish Год назад

While not a movie, major props to Arcane and what it pulled off with its own brand of stylized animation.

@Condog Год назад

The style that Pixar created was groundbreaking and is still impressive to see, but when it's used or replicated in every 3D animated movie it starts to lose the effect. Unique styles not only look cool but can actually be used to enhance the storytelling. Traditional 2D animation has always had a large variety of different styles and I'm glad to see it become more common in big budget 3D animation.

@CyberSinZProductions Год назад

One thing I would like to mention especially pertaining to the Spider-verse is much of the Halftone and Hatching effect that's so integral to the style was done in Post and Compositing, not just a shader. In fact they had to make custom programs. Granted you can achieve a lot with the shader but I think there's also a lesson in looking outside just your renders capability and you certainly don't have to spend the $4000 per program that Sony used !!

@koi3889 10 месяцев назад

I love the direction animation is going to, Arcane and Spider Verse have that sweet spot between realistic and stylized look which allows creativity to bloom be it in a serious or funny story.

@jocastadidntknew5980 11 месяцев назад

Something I love about the Disney renaissance was how stylized and colorful the art looked. I had thought that the move to 3D animation meant this was lost forever, but I’m excited to see we might be returning to this style of animation still!

@wlpaul4 Год назад

The studio: “are you sure about this?” Everyone seeing the trailer for the first time: “Let’s gooooo!”

@rayleaf8114 Год назад

I honestly feel like more than the styling itself into the spiderverse in combination with arcane started to shift western animation into a more age inclusive art vehicle without going going the family guy/simpsons route. Animation that is elder teen/young adult inclusive, with less pg-13 tropes and more complex narratives, with grey zone issues done in a way that not only isn't obvious but not easily solvable

@adanalyst6925 Год назад

PG-13 tropes? Most US animated films are G or PG

@justinschicker8424 11 месяцев назад

Obviously, there were many US and International studios that have been doing this for a long time, however Sony is just the most recent and largest in the US film industry to do this to make it mainstream.

@striker8961 11 месяцев назад

People willing to innovate in the way they tell a story also tend to be the ones who innovate stories themselves. Whilst those who stagnate and try to copy the past successes lack any true vision themselves.