How Sudan’s War Could Split the Country (Again)

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The ongoing conflict between the Sudanese Armed Forces and the Rapid Support Forces in Sudan seems to see no end. In this video, we examine why peace seems elusive, the potential for Sudan to split once again, as well as how the situation, despite intermittent ceasefires, remains dire with staggering humanitarian tolls.
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3 - www.theguardian.com/world/202...
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5 - • What’s happening in Su...
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00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - Context
04:05 - Why Peace Looks Unlikely
06:32 - Why Sudan Could Split (again)
08:36 - Sponsored Content

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@felmula 11 месяцев назад

Quick correction: African tribes in west Sudan are Muslim, not Christian. So the Darfur conflict is solely ethnic, not religious. Which of course doesn’t make it better in any type of way

@Goatedmask 11 месяцев назад

“Well actually 🤓☝️” like damn it’s a war any reason is bad numb nuts

@ivangordienko8081 11 месяцев назад

@@Goatedmaskmy argument when someone comments "☝️🤓": 💥💀

@Goatedmask 11 месяцев назад

@@ivangordienko8081 lol I respect that

@drayle71 11 месяцев назад

my bet would be whoever wrote the script looked up the religious make up of south sudan which from report by international bodies says is mostly christain and assumed that it was the same in darfur.

@Gardstyle35 11 месяцев назад

its not the savage religion of islam thats responsible just savage tribes...

@GustavSvard 11 месяцев назад

Darfur might be just one of Sudan's regions, but it is BIG. Sudan is still a huge country, even after South Sudan broke away. So, how big is Darfur? It is roughly the same size (and shape), and also has about the same size population, as Sweden.

@thepatriarchy819 11 месяцев назад

Just imagine if Africa had proper nationalism like we did here in Europe. 😅

@DrShocktopus 11 месяцев назад

@@thepatriarchy819 well they can't because the ethnicities are split between different countries due to post colonialism. I mean thats the reason why we have not one, but TWO countries called Congo. The best comparison I can make in European terms is like the Polish in the 1880s-1918s, their ethnicities were split and lived in Germany, Russia and Austria-Hungary.

@eldios831 11 месяцев назад

Am sure you are not American....you have a good grip on geography😂😂😂

@dereklush9399 11 месяцев назад

Yeah but Sweden is a tiny country

@dereklush9399 11 месяцев назад

@@DrShocktopusobviously two different ethnicities can never be expected to live in the same country together

@filipe5722 11 месяцев назад

Darfur should have been allowed to secede already. It's ridiculous how it remained under Arabic Sudan without a choice in referendum, even after they suffered a brutal genocide.

@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 11 месяцев назад

I don't think there are much people left to vote for it and Sudan is in the middle of a conflict. No referundum is possible currently.

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

People from Darfur are Muslim and do speak Arabic. The only problem is that the RSF are targeting their ethnicity.

@filipe5722 11 месяцев назад

@@redsky6630 They might be Muslim, but they are not Arabic. Being target for their ethnicity is a very big problem.

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

@@filipe5722 They do speak Sudanese Arabic, the only difference is their ethnicity. Some are African and some are Arab. RSF targets those with African origin

@user-lz5dz1qx2q 11 месяцев назад

@filipe5722 And this why Sudanese army fight RSF

@curtisdaniel9294 11 месяцев назад

I know it's a serious topic, but the outtakes of Jack trying to figure out the pronunciations is 😂❤😊🎉

@joelarnold2394 11 месяцев назад

It would be funny, if they weren't constantly f-ing them up still...

@delfinenteddyson9865 11 месяцев назад

@@joelarnold2394 it's really a non issue though

@bobisstilllost8959 11 месяцев назад

And after all these takes, the Arabic spelling for Hameti was still wrong too🤣 it was funny to hear and watch😁

@joelarnold2394 11 месяцев назад

@@delfinenteddyson9865 The content of these videos is (usually) very good. But that still doesn't excuse the many spelling mistakes, getting words/numbers/names mixed up, basic editing errors etc that seem to happen ALL THE TIME. It's just sloppy and makes them appear unprofessional - it really doesn't take that much time and effort to get these basic things right when you have already invested so much time doing a video. If they want to be taken seriously outside of RU-vid, they really do need to sort this kind of stuff out and start taking it more seriously.

@delfinenteddyson9865 11 месяцев назад

@@joelarnold2394 sure, it's certainly better if it's clean. I don't know how many they are though. Because proof-reading is time consuming, and I am sure they are already doing that. I know people who paid for proof-reading and there where still mistakes in it afterwards.

@mrhoneycutter 11 месяцев назад

Honestly Sudan is such a shitshow at this point it might be better to dissolve the country and split Sudan into 2-3 nation states based on regional demographics, thus starting over from scratch. Those poor people have been through enough and the constant clashing of militias and ethnic groups won’t allow for any stability.

@dejannincic9671 11 месяцев назад

They will just fight each other again for a diferent reason

@Admiral-General_Aladeen 11 месяцев назад

Can't wait for the 3 countries to fight each other afterwards

@mnm5165 11 месяцев назад

So essentially returning Sudan to its pre-colonial state. I’m all for it. Their borders never made any sense anyway

@khanhnguyen-tt3ff 11 месяцев назад

That would apply to almost all nation in africa.

@gillsejusbates6938 11 месяцев назад

sounds like its time for the whites to take over

@sebastianwrites 11 месяцев назад

"Killing civilian soldiers...?" You mean "civilians?"

@Napoleonpilled 11 месяцев назад

Hey probably means militia

@TDaybreaker 11 месяцев назад

@@roselipton2113this channel overall has a huge problem w script and video titles

@gp-1542 11 месяцев назад

It’s honestly depressing how every time I hear about Sudan it’s somehow getting worse

@salihalash4111 11 месяцев назад

Its Africa super power

@Neqtunezz 11 месяцев назад

@@salihalash4111 Not really, Sudan is just war and coups (and also some genocide)

@phoebus86 11 месяцев назад

It's interesting how something that Vice covered over a decade ago is still happening now.

@blank1778 11 месяцев назад

It will never end in Africa. Tribal mindsets along with caring about just themselves and not the people are what setting Africa back. SA WAS a great example of what Africa could’ve been😂

@chillin5703 11 месяцев назад

@@blank1778SA was never not a horrid cess

@Remake5182 11 месяцев назад

@@blank1778 You mean an apartheid state?

@Darkcamera45 11 месяцев назад

@@blank1778no no no modern day rawanda is a great example of what Africa should be

@Darkcamera45 11 месяцев назад

@@chillin5703⁠no no no modern day rawanda is a great example of what Africa should be

@demeterruinedmylife3199 11 месяцев назад

What happened and still happening in Dafur seems to be a textbook example of internal colonialism. Without devolving to giving hot takes about secede or not, I hope people in Dafur can have a better future. By the way, the outtakes are really funny.

@thescholarofpain 11 месяцев назад

People always seem to forget that the Arabs are the original colonizers of Africa and have been expanding and ethnic cleansing in the area for generations...

@second2none914 11 месяцев назад

Sudan as an modern entity was created by Egypt in the early 1800s when the Egyptians attempted to colonise Africa. They occupied the Nile up to Ethiopia then lost and got colonised themselves by the British. At that point Sudan became an Anglo-Egyptian condominium. The British empire eventually declines. Egypt gains its independence, Sudan gains their later with all the territories that Egypt conquered in the 1800s (ie up to Ethiopia). Various peoples of Sudan began to fight for their independence. Khartoum fought to keep those people under it’s thumb. This goes on for a few decades and devolves into various genocides. Around this time osama bin Ladin was living in Sudan and starts attacking the USA ending with 9/11. Sudan depots bin Ladin to Afghanistan but this still draws the ire of the Americans who use their global influence to spilt Sudan in two while they were busy invading Iraq, Afghanistan etc. This leads to South Sudan achieving its independence after 200 years of occupation first by the Egyptian, then British, then Anglo-Egyptians, then Sudanese. But the American did not really care about or understand Sudan so they peaced out when they split South Sudan from the north but in reality there are other regions of Sudan that exist in the same situation as South Sudan and the quintessential example is Darfur. Darfur is a historic African Country that first dates back to the Daju kingdom that dates back to the 12 century.

@SC-jq9og 11 месяцев назад

"internal colonisation" I get what you mean, but this is a retarded concept. It's like if we said France was "internally colonising" Algeria because it was within their borders.

@asternoah5534 11 месяцев назад

@@second2none914 Darfur is a historic African Country but Sudan was created by Egypt in the early 1800s? So the Sennar/Funj kingdom never existed?

@andersoncooper9577 11 месяцев назад

@@second2none914 Sudan (Nubia) is more ancient than anything in Darfur. The Daju kingdom was a small chunk of Darfur and was established by Northern Sudanese settlers from Shendi.

@sgt.brexit3850 11 месяцев назад

'Civillian soldiers' is a CRAZY statement

@mortis717 11 месяцев назад

your ppl created this

@c.a.sreacts 11 месяцев назад

@@mortis717 it's the white man fault we these poor smart people killing each other, no other reason

@parrot1442 11 месяцев назад

@@mortis717Dont be rascist

@Kennoey. 10 месяцев назад

@@parrot1442 explain to me how saying that britain caused all of this mess to be racist

@The_king567 6 месяцев назад

@@Kennoey.they didn’t create Sudan or South Sudan

@GeliCarlosJ 11 месяцев назад

Sudan, South Sudan & Souther Sudan.

@davidty2006 11 месяцев назад

"So we draw a line here in the middle of the desert"

@stonebeetle006 11 месяцев назад

No. Sudan, South Sudan and Darfur

@thetruecyrusplayz1256 11 месяцев назад

Nah, its sudan, South Sudan, and Slightly Norther than South Sudan /j

@stonebeetle006 11 месяцев назад

@@thetruecyrusplayz1256 You misspelled Republic of Darfur wrong

@thetruecyrusplayz1256 11 месяцев назад

@@stonebeetle006 I literally put /j

@FPSGamer48 11 месяцев назад

I’ve always thought this was inevitable. The split between South Sudan, Sudan, and Darfur is for the best. The colonial borders were poorly made.

@ciaranharrington4141 11 месяцев назад

Colonial borders, yiu sound like an expert, tell us all more

@salihalash4111 11 месяцев назад

Darfur is prt of Sudan since 18th century

@fiendish9474 10 месяцев назад

Noone likes seeing their country split apart mate

@bonafidemonafide7810 9 месяцев назад

“Is for the best” South Sudan has been a failed state since it split off

@israelcube9837 11 месяцев назад

What I would also like to add. The RSF forces come from the more rural, nomadic and tribal parts of Sudan which have stronger martial cultures. The RSF have been engaged in war often in recently years. The Sudanese loyalists meanwhile mainly draw from more urban areas of Sudan/regions that practice sedentary agriculture. A huge reason why the RSF can shift more than it’s mass despite having less desirable circumstances. The RSF’s fighters are more prone, hardened and charactered to conflict.

@MuhammadSami-rk5ml 11 месяцев назад

One of the reasons of war is israel. They think we dont know we laugh at their ignorance of not knowing our acknowledgement of their actions

@Wandallz 11 месяцев назад

South Sudan, Sudan, and soon to be West Sudan

@randomwagtail4295 11 месяцев назад

Later there would be sudan, south sudan, west sudan, north sudan and east sudan

@zurielsss 11 месяцев назад

How about “the other one” ?😂

@qwerty-vp1sb 11 месяцев назад

i think darfur would keep its name.. west sudan ridiculous

@notoriousfly9260 11 месяцев назад

North Sudan, South Sudan, West Sudan, East Sudan, Central Sudan

@AlecOnYoutube 11 месяцев назад

North Sudan Northwest Sudan West Sudan Southwest Sudan South Sudan Southeast Sudan East Sudan Northeast Sudan North Central Sudan Northwest Central Sudan West Central Sudan Southwest Central Sudan South Central Sudan Southeast Sudan East Central Sudan Northeast Central Sudan Up Sudan Down Sudan & Sudan

@zico739 11 месяцев назад

The irony of in-fighting among the military class being the reason Sudan finally lost control of the Darfur region is something else.

@sirwootalot 11 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your informative videos! - but I have to say, the audio in this whole entire video is REALLY quiet. Going forward, can you mix your audio louder so we don't have to fuss around so much to turn it up? :)

@molakhs.elhkaya 11 месяцев назад

Correction 1:52 حمايتي himayti

@bjzaba 11 месяцев назад

So nice to see you giving the pronunciations a go!

@skylarrbeck 11 месяцев назад

Loved the blooper at the end!

@skullfucker6064 11 месяцев назад

03:55 what the hell is a civilian soldier?

@luisavelinorelogio 11 месяцев назад

Good question

@almustafamustafa4388 11 месяцев назад

Yes In case of South sudan the conflict was between arab Muslims vs african Christian, but in the case of Darfur the conflict is between arab Muslims and African Muslims, its worth noting that the RSF " JANJAWEED" are arab militias so basically the conflict is between arab Muslims and arab Muslims, unfortunately the people are cought up in between bothe Africans and Arab

@VIVIHESS 11 месяцев назад

There are no Arab muslims in Sudan. They are African muslims. As you can see in this video.

@AfricanMaverick 11 месяцев назад

@@VIVIHESS there are Arab Muslim e.g. baggara arabs

@ArtHur-wp6ex 11 месяцев назад

This is typically for the islam, you can read the fairytale quran and the stupid nonsense of this liar muhammad to understand the conflicts their. All for an imagination of some sick persons who burned their minds under the sunheat.

@jacques9168 11 месяцев назад

Sudan really is the new Yugoslavia huh

@Timkevich 11 месяцев назад

Hello. Could you tell me, please, where you get such good map for your video previews

@sekelakasebele4026 11 месяцев назад

The two main poblems of African countries Politics is 1.Religion (Muslims or Christianity). 2.Tribalism (Ethenics groups who share language culture and customs) Take good example of Sudan firstly Muslims fought with Christians and then the country divided and South Sudan was new country (Then South Sudan new country who are Christian went to war because of tribalism and now the war is over .....ish). Now the Sudan again who are Muslims are fighting against other Muslims.The main problem is tribalism.

@fnansjy456 11 месяцев назад

Nationalism not tribalism you don't call ww2 or the balkan wars tribal, it is disrespectful

@randomlygeneratedname7171 11 месяцев назад

Just make more borders but keep free trade and free movement. Now they feel better they are on the map and can design another funny flag.

@chillin5703 11 месяцев назад

@@fnansjy456it was absolutely tribalism, and so is this. There aren't concepts of nations fighting, it's ethnic groups and ethnic tensions.

@woozyz2769 11 месяцев назад

No really, you're a westerner looking at this with a SOCIAL perspective, America has its own social problems aka racism, lgbt rights, feminism, wokeism and all that good stuff, bringing tribalism coming from a westerner is pretty ironic........

@samuela-aegisdottir 11 месяцев назад

@@fnansjy456 Nationalism if about nation, tribalism is about tribe, I suppose. Nation is not the same thing as tribe. Nation is a mass of people of the same history/language/religion. Tribe has stuctured distribution of power. And I think that tribes are usually smaller and people are interconnected by kinship, which has no role in nations. Europe had tribes as well in its past. Why is the word tribe disrespectfull? It just decribes different organisation of society, without any intend to insult anyone.

@bgcvetan 11 месяцев назад

No wonder that Christian South Sudan wanted to leave.

@SuperGreatSphinx 11 месяцев назад

Christ Reigns Supreme

@delfinenteddyson9865 11 месяцев назад

If the guys really want to pronounce the names accurately writing them in phonetics might help. I met someone who was supposed to sing something with german lyrics, but didn't know german, so they spelled it phonetically and it sounded alright

@fra604 11 месяцев назад

They're English, they cannot read phonetically

@ldubt4494 11 месяцев назад

@@fra604so true 😂.

@mightyx5441 11 месяцев назад

@@fra604you could say worse than americans, literally i say (sue+dan; or sue+dahn)

@BoblopZmuda 11 месяцев назад

Just a heads up, you left in your description card for the end segment! (I sneakily love seeing these things haha)

@kasugaryuichi9767 11 месяцев назад

Every Sudanese gets their own Republic!

@mohammedhassanademadem 11 месяцев назад

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

@BilalMarcus 11 месяцев назад

as someone that lives in the region (egypt) the northern sudanese people are black african muslims that happen to speak arabic and are muslim. so are the people of darfur. the issue here is that this is a power grab. it is not racial of religious tensions. outsiders always seem to over sell this point. i repeat, all of these people are black african muslims that speak arabic and follow islam. i have many friends that live there and travel to egypt frequently.

@snaiper195 11 месяцев назад

4:02 " Killing civilian solders"

@selcovoilucian8253 11 месяцев назад

😂

@jtgd 11 месяцев назад

Don’t even know the conflict’s details, but I’d definitely assume so.

@YeeSoest 11 месяцев назад

The end was spectacular😅 So interesting AND EVEN THOUGH I LOVE YOU GUYS I AM SURE you made the wrong call in the end 😂

@artistbervucci1716 11 месяцев назад

South Sudan is already UN recognised country - saying "West and South of the Country", implies it's still a part of Sudan...

@woozyz2769 11 месяцев назад

South Africa says hello

@Opiavan 11 месяцев назад

Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is actually the most likely region to split from Sudan soon to become an independent. The reason is because they have stronger armed movement known as SPLM-N there and they have been fighting the government of Sudan since 2011. Those people don’t tolerate Arabs’s nonsense in Sudan. Sudan will likely be splitted into more 4 countries soon.

@jidusaleh 11 месяцев назад

Agreed

@pisse3000 11 месяцев назад

Love the bloopers

@DennisTheInternationalMenace 11 месяцев назад

1:04 Heeeey you guys got the generals right this time! 🥳 😂

@Barwasser 11 месяцев назад

3:56 Airstrikes, which has ended up killing *civilian soldiers*

@give_me_my_nick_back 11 месяцев назад

Split it into 6 parts then it's gonna be funny naming extra states when we run out of the cardinal directions xD

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

North-Eastern Sudan, South-Eastern Sudan, North-Western Sudan and South-Western Sudan. After that I can't think of anything else. I don't know Central Sudan?

@deutschekanadische 11 месяцев назад

@@keshi5541West-Central, East-Central, North-Central, South-Central

@MOBXOJ 10 месяцев назад

Most will be named to their historical names, Darfur which was the Sultanate of Darfur would stay the same, North Sudan which was the Kingdom of Nobatia would be changed to that, East Sudan would go back to being the Funj Sultanate etc

@moinsenmittag8683 11 месяцев назад

I love these bloopers

@brandyheng 11 месяцев назад

Like Oil and Water... cannot be mixed.

@jdng86 11 месяцев назад

Look at India and Pakistan, Pakistan split off from India and they've been best buddies ever since.

@AP-dd3xp 11 месяцев назад

They can split all they want, doesn’t matter at all.

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

Can't wait for the Eastern Sudan update.

@Kennoey. 4 месяца назад

aint gonna happen cause the rest of sudan is arabian and united

@ShadowSkryba 11 месяцев назад

Ok that blooper is hilarious

@rcwlson1 11 месяцев назад

A person in my group therapy group on Discord audibly had bombs exploding near her house all throughout our session. We haven't been able to get in contact with her since.

@geznicks 11 месяцев назад

At least you're in a group therapy group to deal with the loss

@BenjaminKeller 11 месяцев назад

I get the "we just don't work together" but at some point you just gotta get you shit together and more spliting won't save you. You have to work with what you got. Not every human can be it's own country.

@AnglosArentHuman 11 месяцев назад

Ah yes. Just get your shit together after a genocide. Just like the Jews did after the Holoc- wait nevermind they also created an ethnostate :)

@dragonfire3727 11 месяцев назад

Czechoslovakia split was peaceful and good it's a great example better than having a civil war

@Tethloach1 11 месяцев назад

There should be a hundred more nations, splitting up is the solution always. If the people don't get along they should split. If things don't work time to break up. The Sudans: Sudan = Struggled to make everyone happy West Sudan = Civil war is possible South Sudan = Decades long civil war created it East Sudan = Civil war stopped Central Sudan = Things fail new country Nile Sudan = Things fail split again New Sudan = Things fail create new nation New nation creation: 1. Do the people get along 2. Is conflict ongoing 3. Are people satisfied Save nations: 1. No wars 2. No friction 3. No conflict

@OGrandomunknownperson 11 месяцев назад

Arabs are too imperialist to live with other ethnicities

@alanfulcher460 11 месяцев назад

Easy for you to say. This is a lot bigger than “we just don’t work together”

@Potkanka 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for trying with the pronunciation! I admit that was pretty funny :)

@dddz961 11 месяцев назад

Yes, please!

@napoleonibonaparte7198 11 месяцев назад

Power cannot exist in a vacuum. In absence of a clear leader, power goes to the ones who possess a monopoly of force.

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

The most charismatic or slimiest if not both was up coming at the top of power

@moover123 11 месяцев назад

I have no idea about their conflict, but I feel like splitting up might be a good thing for the future if there is too much internal tension.

@levifowler7933 11 месяцев назад

The issue is that break-offs can set off a chain reaction of splits. Some argue that this is why Darfur is where it is. The African Union is REALLY cautious about recognizing seceding groups for this very reason. There's not necessarily an easy solution, and no one party to blame. Even states without a history of being colonized (Ethiopia for example) have the same sort of problems.

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

I mean Ethiopia is a colonizer nation themselves. So it kind of makes sense.

@rediettadesse2828 11 месяцев назад

@@keshi5541Ethiopia is not a colonizing nation

@salihalash4111 11 месяцев назад

Who said they arent , forget ogaden war? Eritrea?

@subtlesounds2508 11 месяцев назад

@gidi3250 10 месяцев назад

3:58 definitely needs a and since killing civilian soldiers reads fine with a comma, but doesn't sound right when spoken

@MustacheCashStash125 10 месяцев назад

I hope Darfur doesn’t fail like South Sudan

@stonebeetle006 11 месяцев назад

Free Darfur!

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

@stonebeetle006 11 месяцев назад

@@redsky6630 Yes

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

@@stonebeetle006Where are you from?

@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 11 месяцев назад

Is there even a darfur independance movement right now ?

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

@@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 Not really, further breakdown of Sudan would cause more destabilisation

@TheSmokeOfSolidarity 11 месяцев назад

Yugoslavia Africa edition

@ugwuanyicollins6136 11 месяцев назад

What happened to Yugoslavia

@TheSmokeOfSolidarity 11 месяцев назад

@@ugwuanyicollins6136 it became a long trail of dominoes. with every domino fallen, being a new country.

@benoitbvg2888 11 месяцев назад

3:55 can someone explain what a "civilian soldier" is?

@NaveedKhan-bm8cg 11 месяцев назад

Split question is also in my mind

@Jayvee4635 11 месяцев назад

Sudanly it's not half the state it used to be.

@Threezi04 11 месяцев назад

lol

@dragon55017 11 месяцев назад

If Darfur does become independent from this, then Sudan could potentially be the nation who both of the most recent nations coulf have split off from, assuming Darfur splits off before 2027

@Ravi9A 10 месяцев назад

why 2027?

@dragon55017 10 месяцев назад

@@Ravi9A because Bougainville would beat them then

@albevanhanoy 11 месяцев назад

Diamond tier bloopers

@F.S.L.C. 11 месяцев назад

WOW - THANK YOU FOR THIS NEWS UPDATE.

@The_New_IKB 11 месяцев назад

A Sudan for every point of the compass!

@euanstokes2828 11 месяцев назад

If you include the microstate of North Sudan in Bir Tawil we just need one more...

@lif6737 11 месяцев назад

Sudan has no reason to exist. It was united by a colonial empire, and now sits as an ethnically diverse, politically unstable, and structurally weak state. I can’t imagine equitable development in that country anytime soon

@Threezi04 11 месяцев назад

If Darfur splits off then you are left with what is roughly the borders of the historical Sudanese states such as the Mahdist State or the Funj Sultanate which were pretty strong.

@monzerfaisal3673 11 месяцев назад

Out of most countries in Africa in the same boat, Sudan has it easier with the mix of ethnicities, but it's still bad

@craigr6842 11 месяцев назад

What are you talking about? Sudan, Kush, Cush,Nubia has been a unified country for thousands of years. They resisted the Roman conquest and only fell when the Ottoman controlled Egypt with their British and French allies invaded and defeated them in the late 19th century. The obvious problem is the continued Arabization of Africa. It started in North East Africa and continues to spread like a cancer to the west and south.

@bobalmond8257 11 месяцев назад

2:38 when your warlords wear the uniform of the country. Sadness.

@deathdrone6988 11 месяцев назад

Civilian soilders? Not ebtirely sure how that is possible... (3:58)

@monzerfaisal3673 11 месяцев назад

Agreed

@oxvendivil442 11 месяцев назад

Spoiler alert! all former colonies and territories are bound to splinter into tiny bits that are more manageable, all the former colonies' and territories' boundaries and subdivisions don't really make sense as they were designed to simplify extraction and exploitation by outside forces rather than what would make sense to the people on the ground.

@andre-cmyk 11 месяцев назад

YES EXACTLY

@Hypernefelos 11 месяцев назад

Ethiopia wasn't a colony (it was only very briefly occupied around 1940) and it has even more ethnic subdivisions that are prone to conflict. I'm amused by the idea that the rest of Africa, with its long history of wars and conquests, like most other continents, would have somehow naturally settled into peaceful and homogeneous states had it not been for borders drawn up by colonial powers.

@ikeu6433 10 месяцев назад

@@HypernefelosIf you think Etheopia has more conflicts than countries like Nigeria or the CAR or Sudan then you have no buisness speaking about any African affairs. That's insane.

@Hypernefelos 10 месяцев назад

@@ikeu6433 Did you completely miss the Tigray War last year (up to hundreds of thousands dead, close to a million displaced)? Or the decades Ethiopia was fighting Eritrean secessionists, until the latter won their independence and then kept fighting Ethiopia? Or the Somali secessionists in the south? And meanwhile there was a communist coup that ended up collapsing after the country's economy did, but not before some genocide got added to the mix. Need I go on?

@MOBXOJ 10 месяцев назад

@@ikeu6433Ethiopia does actually have more conflicts than Sudan 😂😂 and the thing is, Ethiopia was an empire itself, most the land it controls was conquered

@hyperturbofox17 11 месяцев назад

Oh Nubia, What happened to you

@matan27d 11 месяцев назад

There is a small mistake. The western part of North Sudan may not be arab, but it is still muslim - not christian.

@freneticness6927 11 месяцев назад

Only 90s kids remember when sudan was the largest country in africa.

@Threezi04 11 месяцев назад

And 2000's kids

@omaralkayal7598 11 месяцев назад

I was born in 2000 and I always knew Sudan but to be quite honest I never heard of South Sudan until 2019 when I started caring about geography they didn't even teach us about South Sudan in school a lot of people probably don't even know of their existence yet

@Mr_Bawon 11 месяцев назад

I was born in 1994 and I remember.

@thatbuckmulligan 11 месяцев назад

Someone needs to explain to them that diversity is a strength...

@kennyking9667 11 месяцев назад

Shut up

@kennyking9667 11 месяцев назад

@@secco1908 support Biafra please.

@CARL_093 11 месяцев назад

again then it will repeat again if this not stop or solved

@johnpederson5873 11 месяцев назад

I recommend watching a vice documentary called inside darfur. Lots of paramilitary group like the wagner group raid villages take land from the sudanesses set up oil plants and hire international to work there while the natives live in poverty

@hysem77 11 месяцев назад

Non Muslim majority are in the splitter up south Sudan . Darfur are Muslim majority .

@Themooman29 11 месяцев назад

If everyone “looked” the same there would be no racism and conflicts would end. I present to you, Sudan and other sub Saharan African countries.

@sepulcher8263 11 месяцев назад

And most of Europe and Asia for centuries. Not sure why people think sameness would prevent conflicts. I would put middle east but they're classified as Asian if I'm not mistaken.

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

They don't look the same though. Maybe to westerners we might look the same but to us we can easily spot the difference. Even my nieghbors Somalia, I can tell the difference between us Eritreans just by their face alone and same applies to an Amhara Ethiopian.

@giltsholder 11 месяцев назад

Spoken from some place in Europe whose history is 2000 years of war against the people on the next hill

@sepulcher8263 11 месяцев назад

@@keshi5541 What's the difference between the Amhara and other Ethiopians? I'm curious as an outsider.

@Themooman29 11 месяцев назад

@@keshi5541 I was intentionally make a simplistic critique. As you point out, people will find any small differences within a population to separate people

@dert693 11 месяцев назад

"civilian soldiers" (3:57)? Soldiers are, by definition, not civilians. Civilians are, by definition, not soldiers.

@user-he8ws1wy6r 10 месяцев назад

What would be the darfur region's name once it gets its indenpendence?

@miguellopes7627 11 месяцев назад

4:00 Wait, civilian Soldiers?

@catmonarchist8920 11 месяцев назад

🎉Just create a 'Holy Roman Empire of the Sudanese Nation' and let each village do its own thing!

@stargazer-elite 11 месяцев назад

No not the Boardergore NOOOOO

@Darium147 11 месяцев назад

That wouldnt exactly work as you may think

@Darium147 11 месяцев назад

@@stargazer-elite If you wanna Fox african borders, you need squiggly borders.

@mariotheundying 11 месяцев назад

If that happens I hope there'll be an African Napoleon to fix the border gore

@iamjimb 11 месяцев назад

Sudan was the reason my old map was outdated, they gonna do this to me again?

@thepotatobredrblx1404 11 месяцев назад

We are about to see 2 potential new countries this very decade bois

@j3sper 11 месяцев назад

That's what happens when some mongrel at desk in London draws borders willy-nilly...

@ryansauchuk7290 11 месяцев назад

The mistake was thinking that Africans could not kill each other for 5 minutes

@homyitorgamez566 11 месяцев назад

The Sudanese conflict is way way bigger than that and you've done a pretty good job in explaining it, but in your explanation it seemed like the remnants on the old regime are the helping hemeti. Please correct that in future videos

@veranarosa8500 11 месяцев назад

So there will be Northwest/West Sudan?

@vagabond352 11 месяцев назад

@1:52 the Arabic word written is wrong it should be like this (حمايتي)

@notusneo 11 месяцев назад

Ah yes the balkanisation of Sudan

@rocketsfan05 11 месяцев назад

Al-Mahdi doesn't just mean protector, it also is a reference to the Islamic version of the messiah and a callback to the Sudanese leader who fought against the Egyptians and British in the 19th century. That's a BFD to be called that

@DrVictorVasconcelos 11 месяцев назад

Serious question: why do British English prescribes "centre" when the pronunciation is clearly "center"? I understand there is no language authority in the US, and dictionaries describe/prescribe orthography. Is there a language authority in Britain, like, in the Royal Academy?

@alphalunamare 11 месяцев назад

General Gordon tried his best and failed. It is best to leave them to it.

@SuperGreatSphinx 11 месяцев назад

Major-General Charles George Gordon CB 28 January 1833 - 26 January 1885

@omaralkayal7598 11 месяцев назад

but he was part of the problem he screwed us all! The British mandate was part of the problem

@MOBXOJ 10 месяцев назад

Let's play find Gordon's head!

@Opiavan 11 месяцев назад

Next time also speak about Nuba Mountains. Also Darfur is majorly an Islamic region not Christianity only Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is Christianity dominant region. In fact that is the region which has has gone through a lot of wars till today but unfortunately it doesn’t gets a lot of media attention. Nuba Mountains is likely the first and only region to split from Sudan soon.

@benjami4359 11 месяцев назад

If they are Christian why Sudan ruling by sheria Islamic low? They better adapt secularism government. If not they must have their owner country.

@vonniofdoom5590 10 месяцев назад

The entirety of Africa has to have some sort of split theirs literally tribes that hate eachother living in the exact same country

@marym7104 11 месяцев назад

Within 17 hours!

@asphyxiafeeling 11 месяцев назад

Frankly, the lines of a lot of countries in Africa probably need to be redrawn. The way the colonial powers did it screwed up a lot of things, such as putting together incompatible tribes / religious groups. The people living there oughta fight it out and draw the borders in a way that works for THEM.

@samuela-aegisdottir 11 месяцев назад

The problem with such a plan is that ethnicities usually dont have clear borders between themselves. The population is usually scattered and making a border between them usually leads to lots of violence. Other problem is that many ethic groups claim some territory where they are in minority now or even dont live at all but where they used to live - and were forcefully expelled from it or exterminated by other ethnic group.

@ryansauchuk7290 11 месяцев назад

I love how the arguement always boils down to " we can only deal with people exactly like us". Time to grow up and actually work together instead of genociding because the Derka-Derkas got 1 extra acre of scrub land from the Derka-Dinkas 5 centuries ago. And don't even get me started on the Dinka-Derkas.

@kiranreilly4916 11 месяцев назад

@@ryansauchuk7290 Old worlders arent exactly known for letting bygones be bygones. Most of these places still have ongoing ancient blood feuds that go waaaaaaay back. Europe used to be much the same. Literally the only reason they're not still is because the continent experienced the two most deadly and destructive wars in human history BACK TO BACK and this all happened very recently - just shy of living memory now.

@chico9805 11 месяцев назад

@@ryansauchuk7290It's not that simple, people aren't interchangeable cogs. There is beef, centuries-old beef. That doesn't go away until you reach the apocalyptic levels of destruction, that Europe saw in the World Wars. Even then, it's only a matter of time until old rivalries re-ignite in Europe - This is human nature.

@keshi5541 11 месяцев назад

You'rr asking for an African continental war.

@maruku4445 11 месяцев назад

I wouldn’t mind it splitting again. It’s too big. Though if there’s any country that NEEDS to split, it’s Russia.

@amrowahba23 11 месяцев назад

it wont split and if you ask darfur people if they want to declare independence, they will say no because they know that some countrys want sudan to collapse. If they did voting on if they want to split, they are gonna cheat the votes and make it 99% yes because they want sudan to collapse.

@Remake5182 11 месяцев назад

why?

@MedK001 11 месяцев назад

@@Remake5182 Apparently it's "because it's too big". Like wtf kinda reason is that lmao. I wonder if they think the US should split too. Russia's not splitting, most of the area it covers is sparsely inhabited.

@woozyz2769 11 месяцев назад

The US needs to split as well, China will do that for west soon don't worry 🤣

@theoneblock7107 11 месяцев назад

That’s not how countries work my guy

@malekbil4035 11 месяцев назад

Funny thing is Sudan in ancient times was the kingdom of Kush which was a very difficult kingdom to conquer and resisted all foreign invasions from the Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and Islamic caliphates after they had conquered Egypt. it was only after the collapse of Kush kingdom and the 3 Nubians kingdoms that Arabs made their way to Sudan and started slave trade and oppressing indigenous tribes. tribes like dinka however fought back against Arabs and later against the ottomans Turks and resisted Arabization which made them a target by Muslim north so the fought for seperation. But now Arab sudanese are fighting among themselves and also killing the non Arab Muslims. this is why Sudan has never had peace.

@yarielrobles9003 11 месяцев назад

I can't wait for east, west, north, and central sudan

@nicolasmonty3692 11 месяцев назад

Central Sudan might end up renaming itself to its original name before European colonist arrived in Africa. At least that what I read in an earlier comment

@osiris7800 11 месяцев назад

This phenomenon will most likely occur frequently in Africa. Most African countries are western constructs and over time they will more likely revert to their tribal base.

@bachvandals3259 11 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with that, nation-state is generally more stable anyway. Since the biggest group of peoples will always want control, i doubt anything will change if there isn't military conflict. A group of 300 nations in Africa will be more stable than 100 dying colonial remains struggling with ethnic violence. Maybe they can move to more understanding after this all over.

@rodrigoe.gordillo2617 11 месяцев назад

Countries in the Americas are the same, western constructs yet this type of ethnic violence was not that common

@syhuhjk 11 месяцев назад

@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617because most of American countries started as white colonial settlement

@austinreed7343 11 месяцев назад

@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617 Because those indigenous groups were driven to functional extinction by whites.

@leavemeal0ne378 10 месяцев назад

That is generally europe or any co tinet who built their borders without exploitation from europeans

@alberteinstein2027 11 месяцев назад

well that's not an arabic word, perhaps حاميني or something like this but I can assure you this is no Arabic 1:54 edit: yup they made a mistake, I found this from a BBC article: وقد أعطى البشير لحميدتي لقب "حمايتي"، بمعنى "الذي يحميني". so it's حمايتي not حايمت

@user-op8fg3ny3j 11 месяцев назад

Native Arab speaker?

@redsky6630 11 месяцев назад

It is derived from the Arabic word حامية. So yes, although it is not exactly an Arabic Word they still are correct

@JaJDoo 11 месяцев назад

maybe its a pun that only works in a specific dialect ?

@d.b.2215 11 месяцев назад

Sudan has its own "Arabic-inspired" language. They call it "Arabic", but it's not understandable for speakers of other varieties of Arabic

@alberteinstein2027 11 месяцев назад

@@d.b.2215 I mean I had a Sudanese friend and we understood each other perfectly, perhaps it is a regional thing, or he simply got that word wrong

@ryoukwjdbwopqmqpzl73819 11 месяцев назад

Be more descriptive with the texts in your thumbnail. Don't put almost the same thing your title has

@MOBXOJ 10 месяцев назад

For anyone wondering, Darfur is bigger than countries like France, Germany and most European countries, losing this region will make Sudan alot smaller on the map

@bababababababa6124 11 месяцев назад

If you think about it, Europeans artificially made these borders anyway 😂 countries were bound to start splitting up at some point

@niklasmolen4753 11 месяцев назад

Africa needs to be split up into at least 50 more new states.

@felmula 11 месяцев назад

Big facts

@wamingo 11 месяцев назад

if you're not very sophisticated then yes that's how you would think about it. in reality you're shrugging at dictatorships and genocide, probably as sponsored by certain other autocratic countries.

@khanhnguyen-tt3ff 11 месяцев назад

Yeah but border split alway come with a civil war.

@bertieclayton4865 11 месяцев назад

Imagine europe had these kind of insane borders (everywhere is yugoslavia in the 90s)

@danielblue4460 11 месяцев назад

A lot of stupid comments, saying these problems will not occur if not for European colonization. Remove Europe from the 15th century and imagine the continent going independent after WW2, it will be thousands of small nations since they don't know each other every 1 kilometer. It's like Europe itself in the 14th century AD, made up of small kingdoms (Spain has a lot, and Italy, Germany also). If India, the Philippines, and Indonesia were never colonized, mind you, it will be hundreds of countries today!!!

@fnansjy456 11 месяцев назад

No it won't it would be no different from Europe or should Poland be apart of Germany?

@AnimaRandom 11 месяцев назад

For phil, its gonna be just Kingdom of tondo, sultanate of maguindanao and whatever will be on visayas.

@fireironthesecond2909 11 месяцев назад

True. But why waste a good scapegoat? 🤷‍♂️

@woozyz2769 11 месяцев назад

SOOO this is where hypocrisy and irony meet, should the former soviet nations Ukraine, Estonia, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus, Finland still be part of Russia? Or should Poland still be part of Germany?

@Alfha_Robby 11 месяцев назад

Ugh Not Really, Indonesia already Have Majapahit and Various Islamic Sultanate that Unite The Country through ITS Tributary System though they botch the alliance with Sunda Kingdom lol.