As a Chinese, I have to point out a FACT: The number of Chinese people using VPN view youtube everyday are way way higher than numbers of foreigners view a Chinese video website daily. The "social credit score" shit keeps showing on comment section makes me laugh.
Isn't it crazy how the thoughts of the regular people in China are fair, thoughtful and offer credit where it's due to their counterparts in the US. And a lot of their commentary is accurate and not filled with stereotypes and propaganda narratives. It makes you wonder who are the ones really being censored in the world. But man what a difference to if you ask regular Americans what they think of China. It's night and day.
You can see the contrast just by following mainstream news. Daily news in the US is obsessed with international politics and constantly talks about China as an adversary, always with a hostile condescending tone, like the 2 countries are already at war, while Chinese daily news barely talks about the US but is just about donestic stuff like news everywhere else.
@@johnsonwu3001 wait, is education not mandatory in US? Like you can just not go to school at all? If true, no wonder people think that Paris is a country.
@@Exxy6965or maybe its too expensive to afford a good education for most people maybe? With all their talk about freedom and capitalism, it makes sense that every single one of them would try to milk as much money as possible out of anything, even education.
In shanghai yes, vpns are super common. Shanghai is their cultural capital. They have a larger understanding of the west. Which is why they want to shut down vpns
I tested this before. If I said something bad about the U.S., Google would pop up a message saying, 'This content may violate our usage policies.' But if I said something bad about China, no message would pop up. I guess this is what we call 'freedom of speech.
Try ChatGPT. If you think the censorship on google is bad, wait until you get a taste of how they're training the AI. Especially try asking about what is happening in Palestine.
That’s not true. But our freedom of speech is violated when content creators are demonized for talking about “the Middle Kingdom “ and whenever we try to say the name of its dictator.
@@jondoh9414 bruh almost 99℅ news with real information or jurnalistic about palestine is erased,banned,censored etc if you search in google,fb,ig, i think twitter is better with neutrality about free speak you have more sides from real jurnalistic who jump into safe zone and even redzone in gaza, you can see who is hypocryte or the honest from gathering all these jurnalist data and statement, dont eat all the news that fox,cnn, and other big media tell you about palestine most of them just propaganda and politic play bs
I think the main different between the Chinese and the American is: The Chinese KNOW they don't have the free speech; The American BELIEVED they have the free speech. It is hard for the American to know anything beyond their ENGLISH network, but not a problem for the Chinese.
I suggest you search for “Ruan Xiaohuan”, this guy was convicted just for blogging, he didn't involve state secrets like Assange or Snowden, he just expressed some opinions about the authorities.
There are already such fools in the comment section. Some people suspect that this video was filmed in Taiwan or Hong Kong. But these people don't even know that Taiwan and Hong Kong are south of the Tropic of Cancer, where the winter climate is warm. In the video, many interviewees and people in the background are wearing warm clothing.
It's amazing how powerful propaganda is. When you actually see that these people are JUST LIKE YOU, the hatred immediately disappears. The dehumanization of other people needs to end. Everyone just wants to live a happy life.
Granted, they didn't interview any hardcore right-wing nationalists (same as when they talk about China here in NY, they ask rational people usually, they don't ask the people who beat non-Chinese down in the streets for just being there). The issue, though, isn't usually 'the people' so much as the Governmental body. When people say "China is x" they are speaking of the government or police as to how they using their resources, or undercutting and not enforcing copyright/environmental protections, etc. The Chinese people just want to live, just like all peoples.
Propaganda of hate was the way of the Maoist era. Today's Chinese government would use the official media to spread negative news about the United States, while the normal people in China only think about making money.
Old woman jumped in "oh we definitely have no freedom of speech" - little did grandma know, she just exercised her freedom of speech perfectly, and didn't go to jail for it :)
Yep, the older generation definitely have a stronger feelings against the “freedom” word, while younger generations of Chinese who didn’t go through the culture revolution, great leap and June, 4th feels more understandable On the “freedom of speech” issue. While the young generation have different online platforms to express themselves without being censored or even use VPN to go to Hongkong sites, Taiwan or American sites to express themselves, the older generations doesn’t know how to do that.
My wife of 21yrs is Chinese. When I first traveled there from Australia I thought I knew about China from western media... Then I lived there for a while and couldn't believe how much my head had been filled with shit about the country. China is awesome, Chinese people are awesome.
I have lived in China almost 7 years now, I lived in Shanghai for 3 years then moved to a small city in central China called Jiyuan. The differences are very small, we just have a couple less big foreign brands here and we don't have a fancy metro system, but in terms of people and their opinions, I have found that people are much more polite where I'm living now and most of them share the same opinions as the ones I would hear in Shanghai. So all these people talking about "Remember it's Shanghai" like the rest of China is rural and uninformed are just way off.
It was a good video. I feel like we view China as some sort of amorphous entity of evil. But they really aren't. I say this as a Taiwanese American. That said, I also do think there are problems with Chinese propaganda. This video didn't ask anything about Taiwan or Ukraine or Hong Kong. If it did, you would get some interesting answers.
they are showing how good american propaganda works, im from mexico and im tired of them claiming everything is a yellow filter cartel filled rat hole, theres cartels in the north sure but we have cleaner cities than many american cities too and we dont have a massive homeless problem like cali does, i went there for vacation and jesus christ, druggies on the streets and tents everywhere, ive never seen something like that in mexico even in shit areas, you may find a druggie or 2 sometimes but not in groups of 30 all doing it broad daylight and smashed so hard they are walking like zombies and begging for money, a few of them naked sleeping in a corner.
@@赛君周 We have a similar saying about the path to success being full of failures, and if you never failed it's because you never did anything, but I've never heard anyone apply the idea to something specific before. I think your Chinese version might be more useful to people just because the framing and specificity makes it easier for a person to understand how to put the idea into practice.
@flynnoflenniken7402 yeah I agree. That's a really good way to put it to make people more comfortable with working harder even when making more and more mistakes instead of getting discouraged
Contrary to popular belief outside of China, Chinese government do not diminish other countries that much. For example, the hand to hand combat between India and CHina at the border (border dispute), media in China just touch a little bit of it, the general public hardly knew about it. But in India, people there went ape sheet burning CHinese flag and stuff. When Indians come to CHina, they are warmly accepted, the same thing cannot be said about Chinese visiting India, as a matter of fact, Indian government do not issue tourist VISA for Chinese nationals.
Just reiterating what the cool grandpa in the video said, China national policy prioritizes public safety. I'm not from China, but it just seems logical, right? What good would it do for the public if the government demonize a certain country / culture outside China? Wouldn't that create more problem? A push from the citizens for their govt to "do something" (e.g. invasion)? Violence towards the immigrants from the demonized country / culture? Chinese people from as far as I know are very pragmatic people, not very "ideological". They will adapt to position themselves in a way that is the most beneficial for them.
playing the victim card is not cool. remember the solders u killed are our guardians and brothers . so your govt not making it an issue is just to divert people attention. while in india people lose their sons they will freakin burn your flag. so please understand killing people at the border and thinking its just another Tuesday is not how the world works.
also your racist accusition that chinese arnt treated well in india is just as weak as your claim people accept indians in china with warmth. the two topics u touched in your comment are unrelated.
I've lived in Canada for 10 years and the most bullshit I've heard is the Chinese social credit score. Whenever I ask them to fact check some people gonna go mad lmao.
In Hangzhou, China, there were two idiots robbed a gold shop in a mall, in March this year. That was a huge news in the whole China. Local police were very excited about it, they finally got a thing to do and won a chance to earn some achievement. The two idiots were caught within 9 minutes after rushing out. I was so disappointed.
The question is are they mad. Because a bunch of banks have stolen their money. China doesn't tax gold. So a lot of people have it and move it around. You get gold bars for signing onto some jobs.
Crime is almost nonexistent in China and Americans are taking that personally. Always easier to point fingers than to improve your own country. China will always be viewed as a lesser country, and thats why they keep improving. The US will always be viewed as the number 1 country, and that is why the people get complacent instead of fixing their problems.
@@manofthepeople2165 This is a lie, crime get swept under and often with "Positive Energy" reporting, you don't even hear much about it. Similar to Flood, you can hear TV news even praise how beautiful the scenery during the Flood.
@@manofthepeople2165 I'd argue the reason for the US media targeting China with this antiquated, under developed, corruption approach is because it is America that is all those things, and worse. The only way to convince Americans into thinking it's not that bad is to tell them some one else is worse to make themselves feel superior.
Obviously Chinese people from kids to grownups to seniors are well educated, critical-thinking and in general have more positive view toward USA. In US, the government and the media keep demonizing China in recent years, more and more people tend to have the very negative view toward China. Western society is based on the religion, traditionally it’s ruled by the Roman Catholic and the monarchies. People get the spiritual influence from the church. Chinese society is based on the philosophy, traditionally it’s ruled by the emperors and the scholars. People get the spiritual influence from the government. Both governments are the outcome of the revolution: In western, it’s the outcome of rich people revolution (to against the Roman Catholic and the monarchy), so the rich people control the government and the media. Government is of the rich people, by the rich people and for the rich people. People tend to want a smaller/weaker government, so the powers are split and limited. In China, it’s the outcome of poor people revolution (to against the emperor, warlords, and the colonization), so the government controls the rich people and the media. China is a top-to-down country, people have much higher expectations on the government guidance and the support. They also face the enormous pressure from the western countries to change them. The government needs to controls the speech to stabilize the society of 1.4 billion people. In western, when a party wins the election, the policies will be more beneficial to certain interest groups. Due to the election, the policies are more short-term and easier to be changed. The election doesn’t really select the top talents to run the country, however weaken the government capability and the responsibility. In China, the Communist party has been evolved to be a party for the entire population, so the policies are meant for the long-term growth of the entire country and more consistent. The country works as a giant corporation and the party is the HR system to select the professionals and demand their ultimate responsibility. Western society emphasize the individualism, multi-party system split the society. In the international relationship, western countries like to split the world into the allies and the enemies due to the frequent wars between the groups. Chinese society emphasizes the collectivism, they know that “unity is the power”. Because the long history of being the superpower, they don’t have the mindset of creating the ally/enemy, instead they want the peace and the prosperity. But at the end, people are very similar, just want to have a better life!!
Based on the number of replies and likes, it is obvious that people do not care about the truth, they just want to vent their emotions. By the way, it is also obvious that the interviewees and replies in this video are purposefully selected. Also, the old lady who shouts about lack of freedom of speech in the video seems like arranged actors, because in China, almost no one cares if their speech is truly free, everyone just wants to live a prosperous life.
You realized. I didn’t even know until I saw so many videos about china. China has its own problems but the West exploded and lied too much. A lot of innocent chinese are harmed and accused falsely through outbhistory even until now. God shakes his head because history and today are exactly the same in patterns…
so true, after living in China for decades I never heard of social score thing which Western media and commentators like to talk about when any topics related to China. And unbelievablely there's a lot of ppl buy this kind of fake narratives.
@@CzDelta92 they would as the ccp is more focused on the people that don't say what they want to hear but anytime they need, they'll use the illegal VPN as an excuse
it's more nuisance than that. basically the ccp is against anything they don't approve. sure you can use vpn, but if they deem your use of vpn causes issues for them, like educating their citizens on real Chinese history, then you'll be drinking tea for a while
I copied my reply to someone here. So-called Chinese Social credit system doesn’t exist in China. West media just created when some years ago small person loan started to become popular China. Especially online personal loan applications with private or semi-private financial services. Personal credit in China is exactly like your personal credit in US or Australia or UK. You will be checked against any financial history you made. That is IT. Till today, the amount of people in the west and in Australia believe the personal credit crap just never stop amaze me🤯🤯
Nobody cares enough lol even when media outlets like the BBC here are 100% wrong they usually don't bother to correct their own mistakes like when The Telegraph and Express claimed Kim Jong Un 'executed' his ex-gf and that everyone in North Korea was forced to have the same hairstyle lol well suprise surprise it turned out to be total cap 😂 lmao who would have guessed xD
several months ago I came across an article/report on FT(or Economists) talking with flying colors about how China bans Winnie the pooh, while nowadays Disney puts on Winnie show/parade almost everyday in Shanghai Disneyland😂😂😂 and i used to thought FT(or Economists) was a professional prestige media in the west, only to realize that they've been fooling their own readers like chimpanzees, and the best part is that their readers are supposedly highly education elites of western society 😂😂😂 sometimes i can't help but wonder if these western MSMs are actually paid by Chinese government to intentionally and purposefully dumb down the western population, in order to give China some competitive advantages 😂😂😂 they're doing hella good job.
i inteded to share with you guys more about how MSMs deceive us but my comment got censored, by the command of the supreme leader of u-tube censorship team😢
It exist, just it won’t affect your daily life if you’re not conducting illegal stuff (including using vpn “illegally”). So like 90% of Chinese won’t get affected that’s 1 billion of sample sizes😂😂
@@Allsurrender so you know Chinese better than a Chinese living in China? And why don’t you provide just a little a bit of evidence to support your belief? Like a website of where is a Chinese’s personal credit recorded? Or how to search it? Or how to add a book I read to my personal social score record? You show it to all of us!
@@q-_-p.d-_-b dude just check their loan or transactions history to see if they have ability to pay it back. so your country's bank would give loan to any people (say someone has unpaid credit card bills) without any limitations?
holy fuck that one dude talking about companies being so afraid to make mistakes and that they don't wanna make money anymore is a genius. he hit the nail on the head with every single topic and it actually felt great that he sees the struggle lmao
People say Shanghai cannot represent the whole China. As a Chinese I just want to point out that 90% people in Shanghai are not locals,they come from all the other places in China in recent 2 decades .
Thank you. These people don’t seem to understand that places like shanghai and Beijing operate differently than a province like Guizhou or Sichuan. My mother grew up in Chishui and she has told me several times that overseas VPNs are illegal. The only legal ones are the CN ones, but what’s the point of it if the government still regulates? She told me the beet way to access stuff is to get an overseas VPN installed in the hardware which is very difficult to do.
Do the same interview in the biggest cities in America like NYC or LA, I doubt the people there are half as knowledgeable about China as the Shanghainese are about the US.
To give you my opinion, I'm a 2005 science graduate. China is a cultural state built on a cultural complex based on dialectical materialism + imperial power + Confucianism + clan ethics mixed together, unlike Europe or the Middle East where religion is the core of the culture. In the 1960s, China experienced the Cultural Revolution, which was initiated and carried out by Mao Zedong and his idealistic followers as an ideological revolution to break down all feudal superstitions and the old inherent power holders (although some casualties and exploitation by political opportunists occurred in the process). This “revolution” basically broke the psychological fear of the imperial power + Confucianism + clan ethics in the minds of the common people of China towards the higher classes (bourgeoisie, bureaucrats, religious/cultural leaders), and made the common people naturally dispassionate towards political activities based on culture or some kind of identity (which may be what many people in the movie show). “thinking"). At the same time, the revolution also puts the world's current “affirmative action” movement in motion, and the status of women in China has never been higher (compared to Japan and South Korea, the two continuation countries of Chinese culture). So China cannot simply be viewed as a 19th century “Paris Commune” type of idealistic socialist state, nor is it a 20th century Soviet type of great chauvinistic socialist empire, but culturally China is a complex collection of cultures. Before the 1980s China was economically far behind the developed countries of Europe and the United States, so China had a strong desire to learn from Europe and the United States, especially in terms of material goods and part of its cultural consumption (I don't think we can call it a cultural ideology yet). In this regard, China from senior officials to ordinary people have expressed a modest attitude, but for China's 5000 years of cultural history we have a considerable cultural confidence, and even when we see all kinds of chaos in Europe and the United States, we can find a lot of “reflection” from Chinese history.
I live in Chicago and while there is some truth, it's not as bad as the media portrays. I live completely normal, not a fearful life. The trick... Don't put yourself in dumb situations like a dark alley at 3 am dumb.
Many people don't really want to know the facts about other countries, I lived in Japan for 8 years. Every year when I go back to China for Chinese New Year, some of my relatives always say that Japanese people only eat raw food and even ask me to go to the hospital to check if I am infected with parasites.
From how I understand the government tries to control a lot of things but doesn't do a good job. They also have a lot of laws that are really strict but rarely enforce them unless they want.
because the average person is not very bright and believe everything they are told, especially when it is something they know near nothing about like another country
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Actually, a lot of people get it wrong, including the old man in the video who looks very knowledgeable. Getting your comments deleted or blocked for something you said in China is not a government action. Rather, it is the corporate behavior of the platform. Because platforms don't want to suffer the consequences of public opinion so they tend to take more extreme speech control. For example, a lot of people say Pooh Bear Xi Jinping, Tiananmen Tank Man, stuff like that. You're never going to get questioned by the police for saying Xi Jinping looks like Pooh Bear or posting a picture of Pooh Bear Xi Jinping. The Chinese government just wants to keep society going they don't care what you think. Most of this content, if it is restricted at all, is because the platforms don't want to suffer the consequences of public opinion.
@@AntiBolla_mumu i mean censorship absolutely happens. There are often filters that automatically censor/or delete your posts. Also take the stabbing of the foreigners quite a while ago - they were censored very deliberately across Chinese social media. The fact is China does censor, but as a normal person, like no offence, I don’t really give a f*** - I just live my life. I remember someone saying a smart dictatorship makes you feel like you don’t live in one at all and I agree. In pretty much all spheres of my life, the government’s “oppressions” haven’t really infringed on any in particular, except for maybe the VPN :p having to connect it each time is a pain
After watching this video I feel like no matter where you are in the world, people are just people and we are all trying to figure it out and do the best they can to be happy
But even as a Chinese, I can't help but notice that a lot of the interviews directed towards Americans purposefully make them look dump by only choosing the most ridiculous of ridiculous answers. I'm sure the education system hasn't failed Americans are that extent - they're literally in the richest country in the world.
@@porcelaincrown In some parts of the us, not to name any names, it has failed to that extent, unfortunately. Though there is inevitably some cherry-picking, because it makes more interesting content, they really don't have to look hard for these "cherries" as they are incredibly common, even if they are still in the minority.
@@ARKSAAXX-ys9gz yeah, those kind of street interviewers in the US are profiting by finding the absolute dumbest people they can find and asking them geography questions and such. It's just for views.
My husband and I went (back) to China last year since I grew up there. Hubby knows a little Chinese. He greeted our cab driver and the driver was like “look! Americans are so polite so cultured” 😂
1. people can talk about politics in China its just some issues cant be talk about online and its common in many other countries. 2. Chinese version douyin has a youth mode,when you turn it on it will be educational videos only, if you dont the content there are brainrot just like the us. 3. vpn is not totally banned in China, its illegel for individual users,but that law is the same as the "under 21yrs old cant drink alchohol in the us", if you don't repot it to the police youself, nobody gives a fxxk about what video you watched outside the fire wall. 4. shanghai is a immigrant city andheavilly influenced by the western culture, bassically you can find peple coming from all over the country in Shanghai, people said they should go to mainland ,it wont make any difference because people there have internet and well informed too,especisally the younger generation, distance really dosent matters in modern world. 5. people in the us should do their own researchand its not that hard. people always said the us media is lying to people in domestic issues but they still believe the media 100% immediatly when it report other countries.
100% Douyin without teen mode actually has more graphic content than tiktok. Even if it gets taken down, it garners a lot of views before it does. Chinese people talk more about policies and laws than political ideology.
And with the vpn thing. Everyone knows about it. especially if you’re a foreigner, Chinese people know you do use a vpn or want to use a VPN. And no one cares😂 there’s a lot of rules that aren’t enforced as well. The only ones that are heavily enforced are fraud, kidnapping and trafficking, as well as drug dealing.
@@bananaana1860 I agree with you. I have both versions on my phone, seen some weird content on the chinese one tbh. When I heard this news that douyin only has educational content I pretty much spit out my drink from laughter
I moved from Hong Kong to China and I'm using VPN now. It's Ok to complain the govt or even President Xi, or expressing your subjective comment....but not speading fake news intentionally or being paid and organized to do so.
That is very true! I still have relatives in China, they said you can complaint anything about the government to the government, and they will listen too, there are various ways to file a complaint; whether it's through phone calls, email and even apps. Some serious matters will be dealt in matter of days! But do not spread hatred and fake news, or organize some sort of illegal riot against the government and cause civil uprising and endangerment to the public. That's how Facebook got banned, cause they don't want to compliant to the local laws, and terrorists used Facebook to communicate and organized the Xinjiang massacre like a decade ago.
It’s worth noting though that comments perfectly fine in private can still be sensitive in public though. So it can be expected that any comment on the CCP leadership may not pass the censorship of most public websites. Also, no one will be sent to jail for just talking about things, and the most common scenario people can encounter is getting their post deleted and feeling mad about it, maybe later condemning the lack of freedom of speech with friends privately. The worst case one can face is to be invited to a local police station and be advised to talk cautiously in public, which can happen if your comments have caused some influences. Only if you are actively plotting against something will you be jailed.
Whether it is illegal to use vpn in China depends on what you are using vpn to do. For example, if you are participating in online fraud, then of course it is illegal.... ...In 2013, I started to use vpn to watch Twitter and RU-vid, but I was disappointed that the internet was full of misinformation about China and all kinds of ridiculous rumors.
i started to use vpn like 5 years ago, only to find out that they know nothing about china, whats worse, most of them fall for blatant lies and disinformation, it seems like they are blocked by invisible fire wall.
Can you give the best example of a misinformation about China that you see in the internet? I have no hate whatsoever. I’m genuinely curious. I know I’m ignorant about many things. Media, textbooks, internet are my only window to reality. I just want to know what other things the internet, the media, and books outside of China lied about.
@@onetrickekkowr Antony Blinken still say there are uyghur genocide is going on and vloggers from your side still uploading their vacation in Xinjiang.
Having just returned from china on a 2-week trip, let me tell y'all, the country is fking awesome -- fascinating culture...huge, i mean truly huge variety of cuisines...and just how cosmopolitan and safe the country is...
Plus full universal health care, social safety networks, strong economy. It looks prosperous- people look healthy and relaxed- like America used to look. I don't like Xi.. but he isn't who instituted those programs.
Watch out for security cameras in hotels though. I see them talk about that on Chinese websites all the time. They even teach you how to find the hidden cameras 😂
Are we going to talk about their collapsing birth-rates, social disorder, youth unemployment, high rates of depression, surveillance state, censorship, literal concentration camps, religious rights abuses, aging population, repressive and totalitarian socialist government that arrests protestors? Stuff that you can't see or notice unless you pay attention? As a Vietnamese who is familiar with the tactics of my home nation's oppressive communist regime, which is close to China's government and uses their same tactics, trust me, they let foreign travellers see all the good stuff, but the bad stuff, they have a vested interest in hiding it
True. I lived in US for 4 years. The more I learn about international issues, political issues and America itself. I grew loving my country more and more.
It’s kinda true for me. I used to be very pro-liberal and believes that china should be democratic when I was still in high school. Then I left my country for 6 years for higher education, I am now patriotic af.😂
Yeah I’m thinking about the same thing😂 I once saw a video from a vlogger full of biases against Chinese ppl. I cannot imagine what will happen if there’s no vpn🤣 (His video will be filled with thousands of comments within a day😂)
I am a person from an underdeveloped province in the northwest of China, let me share my personal views after watching the entire video! 1. Does China have freedom of speech? First, we need to define what freedom of speech is. I believe no country has absolute freedom of speech, only relative freedom of speech. Objectively speaking, the freedom of speech in the United States is indeed a bit more free compared to China, mainly reflected in public criticism of the government. China also has many people criticizing the government, it just depends on the impact these critics have on Chinese society. If these critics have a large impact, then I can confirm that it is not possible, but if they are ordinary people in life, then many people in China can freely criticize. 2. Regarding the social credit score (it seems to not be mentioned in the video, but I saw it in the comments), as a native Chinese person, I do not know what a social credit score is? Can someone who knows please tell me? 3. The comments section mentioned that only people living in cities like Shanghai have critical and dialectical views of issues? Obviously, this is not the case. Besides Shanghai, I have been to at least over eighty other different cities in China. Many people's views are actually similar to those interviewed in the video, the difference is that older people are more conservative in their thinking and have less understanding of the outside world compared to younger people. 4. Can Chinese people be exposed to the outside world? I think this question can be viewed from two aspects: first, for Chinese people who go abroad, this is not a problem, and the number of Chinese people who go abroad every year seems to be over a billion, if I remember correctly, this is more than the total population of most countries. Second, in terms of the internet, many Chinese domestic apps have reports about various countries in the world, there are many mainstream media and self-media, with both positive and negative aspects, depending on your level of awareness, it requires a dialectical view. Additionally, many young people use VPN to access some foreign app content via X, YT, FB, and so on. 5. Do Chinese people understand America? This question is actually difficult to answer in my opinion. The people I know, including myself, cannot confidently say "I completely understand America," yes, after all, for America, we are foreigners and cannot understand America better than Americans. In my opinion, to understand a country, it is obviously not enough to rely solely on the internet, at least one should live in that country for many years and be able to be involved in various social aspects of the country, then I would think discussing this issue would be more accurate and real. Similarly, if Americans only understand China through the media or the internet, it would definitely be very one-sided, so, I can only say that everyone's understanding and ability to verify information differ, and naturally there are significant differences in perspectives. Finally, let me share my personal feelings. As an ordinary person, I find that many people are very eager to have their views acknowledged by others and always try to persuade others to agree with their views, whether their views are right or wrong, they want to be accepted, at least in the online world, what I see in some comments is always like this, this is probably human nature, it seems that in most cases, everyone thinks their understanding is correct, which makes me think that the most difficult thing for a person to change is probably their cognitive inertia! In summary, many people's views are biased and subjective, but nonetheless, one should not discuss the people of a country with a sense of superiority and stubborn prejudices, because, while the firewall of the internet is easy to break through, the firewall in people's minds is hard to break through, haha.
@@slavko321 If you're referring to Vlog-type videos, RU-vid has really had a lot of them in the past serval years. But when it comes to politics and culture, there may be very few videos with high-quality content
I think they’re more educated than the average American. Their population of 1.4 billion people and yet a majority of them are smarter than the 200 million people in America. 😂
tru but these kind of people aren't random folks you grab on a chinese street, I'd say their level are higher than 90% of the chinese, it's a really biased video where the author showed only what he wished to show
I will always bring up Julian Assange to people who preach about the absolute freedom of speech in America. The guy only wrote about some atrocities committed by the U.S. army in Iraq, and was apparently exiled for that. Like, obviously there are limits to that no matter which country you're in.
It's really ironic that when Edward Snowden escaped from the US, he went to Hong Kong. I am an anarchist and I am not saying that China has such absolute freedom of speech but it seems that none of the big country has such thing. It doesn't matter if it's capitalism or communism.
Can you search and read what the guy wrote in the US on the internet? Can you just talk about it right here on RU-vid? If so, you don't really know what is freedom of speech and how bad it is in China.
I am Chinese and have never lived abroad. I want to ask, what can't we express freely? I know that we can't publicly criticize political parties (there are channels for expressing opinions), we can't publicly insult leaders (even ordinary people), and we can't say things that divide ethnic groups and countries. What else can't we say? We can discuss LGBT, we can discuss different countries and ethnic groups, and we can also discuss Jews.
@@jiaqiwu4001 No idea what you wrote there exactly, I can only go off google translate, but it does not make a whole lot of sense. Nothing about the US or 911 has anything to do with that and Uighurs are religious people, not necessarily terrorists. And you went in there and saw nothing of concentration camps or your government and told you so? There are documentaries FROM INSIDE THE CAMPS THEMSELVES, speaking with authorities in there and seeing what the prisoners do, on RU-vid. There is simply no deying them lol.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu Of course we can talk. The Taiwan issue has always been a topic that ordinary people talk about every day. Whether to reunify by force is the main issue everyone discusses.We don’t talk about the Uyghur concentration camps because that’s nonsense. China has 56 ethnic groups that have coexisted for thousands of years. Commit genocide after coexisting for thousands of years? Moreover, there are more than 10 million Uyghurs. Do you have such a large prison in your country? Do you think this is logical?
I'm just back in France ; I did an exchange semester for 6 months in Guangzhou and internip for 5 months in Shanghai. Never heard about social credits and nobody knows what is it 🤣. I just lived my best live, China is so great and people so welcoming. I've never felt ,ore safier than in China.
I talk to Chinese all the time. They are more opinionated and educated world affairs. Whereas a lot of Americans get trapped in the two parties and drama here. Overall they are thoughtful and nice people. What we read in the news is not correct about them.
@@matthewl6700I have WeChat which has a translation app for any language. It can scan text and change Chinese or English into another language. I also speak some Chinese. HelloTalk you can talk to people in China, Tawain and Hong Kong. Has 100 million user around world any language.
@@matthewl6700The Chinese sell more products around the world than anyone. Look at Temu. Most of Amazon target and Walmart are Chinese goods. In order to understand how too market in another country and sell goods. They have to understand others countries cultures otherwise they won’t be successful. I didn’t know this about them until I started talking to them.
@@matthewl6700 Nowadays, English is no longer that important in Chinese education. Of course, many children in China can speak fluent English, but how many children in the United States can speak fluent Chinese? This is the gap in thinking.
@@vario6492 He said Chinese students work hard to study and take exams to get into university. After graduation, they can find good jobs and participate in various industries. Most students have a routine of leaving for school before 6 a.m. and not returning home until 11 p.m. However, fortunately, tuition fees in China are very affordable, and if a student is facing severe financial difficulties, there is also support from the government and individuals. -- and actually that's true, like in recent years everybody can afford a Masters or Ph.D degree no problem in China, as long as you get the wisdom. The highest tuition fee for Master/PhDs is like 14000 usd per year, and the cheap ones are basically 1500 usd per year. Plus you'll get your monthly subsidy even if you're not qualified for scholarships.
@@vario6492 He said that we chinese students study hard and do well in test in order to get a good job after graduation. Just like those stereotypes of asian LOL. Students usually get to school at 6 am and go home at 9 pm, yeah, 21:00. But the good thing is that college tuition is quite cheap comparing to US's tuition, and the government will offer interest-free loans for those who are extremly poor.
When you are given with too many useless options and freedom, You literally become idiot because You cannot tell which is ghe best option And That is exactly what's happening over the country garuanteed with freedom or freedom of speech
@@OneTabbyYeiXThe bigger reason is that China has a population of 1.4 billion. If we copy the American model of freedom, everyone will fall into a fratricidal and humanitarian disaster. Only order can make this country operate, but this will inevitably infringe on the rights and freedoms of some people. Everything must be viewed from both sides.
The numerous comments saying this is Shanghai and urging us to take that into account show that they haven't been to China and have no real understanding of what it's like there.
Right! Most people in Shanghai are there to work. Plus I wouldn’t trust those people who can’t even name more than 4 cities in China 😂 that’s like trusting someone’s info on the US but they’ve never visited, only watched the news and movies, don’t speak the language, and only know New York and Los Angeles 😂
Honestly I was surprised to see so many ppl commenting things like well it’s in Shanghai. But as a student from a middle class family in a small city in China, I feel at least dozens of my friends, classmates, or relatives can take this interview in similar ways. Ever since I came to US to study (with scholarship), it was quite shocking to me how ppl here know so little about China compared to what we know about them.😂
thats a common theme around the world since the US its the sole Super Power. if China was the #1 power in the world, then countries, including the US will study China for an excessive amount. its natural to want to learn from the #1 country in the world as of now
@@ernestogastelum9123this is how the US is declining by being arrogant. When the US is #1, they still should keep learning, if they don’t, it’s just a matter of time going down hill.
Realistically, it makes sense from a culture power perspective. Forget the fact that America, China, etc.. are powerful countries, how do people typically get exposed to information from other countries? Its typically media. Its why i bet a lot of people know more about Japan and Korea than China, they have more cultural soft power
as a chinese myself, we always talk about the "freedom of speech" in the US. However, you can't even say anything negative about the LGBT community, where in China you can talk whatever you want, that is just funny as hell
I spend 6 years in the U.S and the difference between China and U.S is very interesting. Both countries has propaganda (Pretty much all countries does). However, many Chinese do realize the propaganda, and able to acquire informations from other sources, which isn't the case for most Americans. Majority of Americans know very little about China, but most Chinese has a decent understanding about U.S. Media bias is common in both countries, however there is a big difference. Chinese media does selective reporting, so most news about the U.S are negative news, usually mass shooting😅, but those are real news. The U.S media does the same thing, but they often had inaccurate or even fake news about China, and rarely correct themselves even when someone pointed out the error.
Anyone who paid attention to international news and geopolitics would see it's an obvious containment strategy. China was warm to the US and still seeks to do so because it still likes to have access to US market, tech and investment. While the US, circa early 2010s, suddenly drummed up so much anti China rhetorics on all its mainstream news, started serious pivoting to Asia as foreign policy, pulling in western allies like Australia as they perceived a China developing itself so rapidly into a superpower, a threat to US led Western hegemon global dynamics. Before they only were warm to China because Sino Soviet split, and the West needed China as a cheap outsourced destination, they didnt really expected China to copy tech and developed so rapidly in only a span of 30 years to even surpass the West in some aspects.
As a Chinese living in China using RU-vid, I want to explain the "Freedom of Speech" in China. There are defiantly restriction in Freedom of Speech in China. That's the Fact. But the true problem is are we feeling Not Free living here. For most Chinese the answer would be No. I have lived in US for 10 Years, I know why Americans are proud of their Free Speech. Mainly about commenting on politics. In China there are NO laws saying "we restrict your freedom of Speech", and there are NO restrictions in private conversations. What's unofficially considered banned is when you talk or publish in public about things related to Overthrowing Regime in China. For example, when something bad happened, you Cannot say things publicly like "Fxck you XJP, CCP Get out", what you can say is commenting on the Event or even the local government who is in charge of the Event. You can even call the local Government and say Fxck you. As long as you are not anti-Chinese Government, you are free to express anything. And most Chinese don't feel uncomfortable about this because Chinese Government and Xi is Actually doing a good job in general. (compare to western Gov who build a bridge for decades spending billion dollars.) If you said something Anti-China Publicly online, well your comment will probably be deleted by the platform. Nothing really happen to punish you. But If you did something Anti-China in reality (such as protesting the regime, planning for terrorist attack), you might be immediately caught. depending on how serious your behavior is, you might been educated verbally, or put into jail. How Chinese feel about this? Not a big problem. We don't have the innate need to curse our leaders or government, we just want to make more money and have better lives. When the government did something not good, we talk about the it and its solutions online. And our government listen to peoples talks and actually fix those problems efficiently. As long as they serve the people, we are totally ok with the restrictions. By restricting those China-Haters, it will only make the country more united. So the true Question will be: Do you want more personal freedom but less national development, safety and efficiency as a country? or Do you want to compromise on some personal freedom for more national development and better environment? I have lived in the western world, I got back in China because I made my choice. So the westerner should not bother people living in China.
@@heliosasher Taiwan has been independent of mainland China for the vast majority of its history and has never for a single second been part of the PRC.
@@-1450socialcreditOne this is in Shanghai and two we’ve seen similar interviews in the US equivalent of Shanghai, New York and it doesn’t really inspire confidence in the American education system.
As an expat (UK) living in China for a decade now, they really look at themselves critically, there is a face-saving and face-giving culture, where even in the news, China really doesn't depreciate the US because by doing so, it creates interest about the US they instead push how good they are and not how bad someone else is, as they stick to current affairs they can more easily make the collectivism propaganda and focus on the idea of "the rights of the many far outweigh the rights of the few" or " the communities rights and safety are more important than the individuals". And it is pretty safe, I live in a small town outside of Guangzhou (I also lived in big cities like Guangzhou and Beijing), and walking to the shops at 02:00am for some beer is like 99% safe (I obviously cannot realistically say 100%)
1% unsafe is that you may got diarrhea if you eat the food from the street vendors, we called them 走鬼 in Cantonese, the material is most unclean, don't try it.😂
It’s true that the Chinese media generally does not disparage the US. They might criticise some of the hostile actions and foreign policies directed at China with Global Times being a little more forceful, but mainstream outlets like CGTN are very diplomatic, certainly more so than the constant barrage of China bad press you get in the west
@@dadlight3783 Perhaps one billion Chinese people believe that the United States has advanced technology, but why do Americans continue to use credit cards that are technologically backward?
Just watch those nasty videos from Ukraine battlefields, it is so unbelievable that we are living in a so-called mordern world...... It's soooo unfair for those dying young man....... There must be something wrong with political system of this world.........
I like how Asmon learned about how folks in China are direct. I found from being in Beijing that, if you get a bunch of aunties talking, you’ll learn their all their thoughts on a topic and may lose your shirt in a game or two of Mahjong in the process. As for politics, as long as you don’t fight with the cops or do something politically charged, no one really cares. I was friends with a security guard (we were both college-aged dudes) and we’d go back to the barracks and watch anime.
@@apilgrim6907 uhhh as for politics they definitely do care. Try posting some anti-Xi memes in wechat. You'll be immediately banned and your bank account frozen.
@@loongsiu4766Yes, it was the ending of the two systems in all but name. It was pretty violent, but the state wins against the people if the army doesn't join the people.
@@darthvadeth6290 lol it's not that poor but there sure are alot of poor parts tho it's mostly cause BRITISH STOLE EVRYTHING! the Kohinoor the one and only in whole world and around 100+ trillion dollar worth of money if that doesn't make a country poor and start from the start then idk what does so instead of being racist just wait and give em some time brother.
You just didn't see it in the video, from the unwarranted sanctions against Chinese companies to the slanderous Uyghur incident, we've seen a lot of what the Americans do!
Same with us, honestly! We have way too much on our plates daily to hate someone on the other side of the world for no reason other than our government told us to. Respect from Texas, friend!
I'm Chinese. Some time ago, G2's anchor Kesha live broadcasted China on twitch. He spent many days in Chengdu, China. I think his channel can show the real China very well. If you are interested, you can watch the replay.
Idk, just bc he does that now, doesn't mean he never has or never will want to explore the world some. Idk his personal life, but I feel like his dad could be why he doesn't travel that much, like maybe his dad wouldn't want to or can'ttravel outside the US.. He seemed really close with his parents.
There's a bunch of Twitch IRL streamers who stream from China right now. Jinnytty recently went there, Jakenbake goes there regularly and streamers like Waterlynn and Geezgiselle stream in China almost exclusively.
This has 100% opened my eyes to a LOT of things. I, as a coservative american, have a TON of love for the Chinese people..... We are all human and we ALL have the same controling governments.
Hey you are better than a lot others that don’t even give videos like this a chance to change their perspective and just simply call everything that’s china related “propaganda” because it challenges their beliefs, it’s sad that they will probably live their whole lives in their own bubble. We need more open minded Americans like you
I lived in US for 4 years. And I met so many good ppl in conservative states. They treated me nice and true. Thus I don't like US government at all. But I do love American ppl.
most Chinese are well aware of government censorships, but most just don't really mind since it doesn't conflict with their personal interests and goals.
See this is the problem, their goals. They see the nonsense coming to the people around them and they just don’t care, because it doesn’t conflict their goals. Never in a moment would they think, wait a second, this could happen to me. Or if I let government do this today, who knows what happens next. The whole country just gives up critical thinking altogether it seems.
@@hendrysugianto8012 see that’s the logic going, it’s not about me. Nothing happened to me or I could even say that nothing will happen to me in the short future. But if you just let the cycle continue, eventually it’s gonna affect more and more people. But if you only think on a personal level then the things are never gonna get better.
Some older generation Chinese love to complain about the government, they were influenced by a lot of western propaganda when they were young and China was very backward back then too
Its really impressive how the average person in China is so knowledgeable about all these topics, not to mention their vocabulary and choice of words is profound
Be a stretch to say this represents the average chinese person but from my experience, chinese ppl have a more nuanced view of politics and the world than the average person from the west
It's because they actually have exposure to both sides. Look at the people they interviewed. Some lived in the US, some studies there, or visited, and the rest will at least occasionally hop on a VPN to visit western media sites. How many Americans have a similar level of exposure to China? 99% of Americans get their China news from American media and American politicians. Is it any wonder the Chinese have a far more nuanced view of the relations between our two countries?
A lot of older Chinese are more foreign-oriented even though they may have never been abroad because they grew up in a time when foreign countries were really much better. So they will have a more negative view of China. But young Chinese people like me who have lived abroad often find that other countries are no better.
@hakutouko3182 well, kind of. In China, if you were to call your president Xi, Winnie the Pooh, you can get in serious trouble over that. In the US, we can say almost anything we want about our leaders as long as it isn't violent. Plus I think that China having "reeducation camps" has really left a bad taste in many westerners' mouths since that has really bad historical connotations regarding freedom of expression and freedom of individual beliefs.
While others think that Chinese are blocked, they're actually very good at obtaining and understanding information. It's glad to see that there are many sensible and intelligent people on the streets in China.
They more about geopolitics than people think they do. And they know more and have a deeper more nuanced understanding than many people in other countries do.
@@palmpalm5131 I've learned that people in asia (china in this case) learn more about the entire world, while in the west we learn more about the west specifically and learn barely anything from asia
I don't know what you mean by blockade. Internet? So I'm communicating with you now and I'm not allowed to go abroad? The data of China people traveling abroad every year should be among the top in the world. So I don't understand what you mean by blockade.
Many people miss the point! ! ! ! The point is not that this is an interview in Shanghai, the point is that 99% of the people interviewed have positive views on the United States despite having never been to the United States! ! ! ! ! Do Americans who have never been to China have a positive view of China? If not, where does their negative view of China come from? Could it be that they hate China since they were born?
It's why, as a Chinese, I feel ridiculous when American blame "brain wash" in China. Chinese know there's censorship and know what's propaganda, American don't. Chinese could check information on both English and Mandarin media, American don't even if they have capability.
I believe that media that spread false information will eventually be discovered by everyone. The truth is right there, and it will not change because of the rhetoric of Western media.
@@tony900101 our economy is built on debt and military force, our culture is based on cheap fast fashion and flash in the pan trends. We have gotten dumber and dumber as well as poorer and poorer with each passing generation.
@@ItsConnerKing Indoctrination from an early age I guess. The pledge of allegiance is still wack to me. And I bet that most people in America would find it totalitarian if another country made their kids pledge allegiance to a flag every morning, yet remain fine with kids in their own country doing it.
This video is a great reminder to stay skeptical of what we're told about a country until we've experienced it ourselves. It's like a child being warned by their parent that other parents are awful, only to meet them and be pleasantly surprised by their kindness, friendliness, and openness.
Chinese people really don't understand what dangerous things can happen when going to a convenience store at 1am. In Chinese cities and rural areas, you can stand outside 24 hours a day without any danger
@@claudec1843 I am a Chinese and I think it's true. With economy dropping and unemployment increases, people are becoming more aggressive. In the past month, in Shenyang city alone, multiple killers stab random people by knife, ON STREET, IN DAY TIME. It is my hometown so I know it, people are truely terrified. However, not a lot of people know about it even in china because the government are hiding and blocking the spread on internet.
Nearly 200 countries in the world, China is the largest trading partner of more than 120 countries. There are tens of millions of overseas Chinese. China has the largest number of overseas students and tourists in the world. Then there are a bunch of people who will believe that China is closed, China is rubbish, and China has no place to learn. This is very confusing to me. In that case, why talk about China all day like American politicians?
Because those politicians want a war with China because they see their hegemonic influence waning as it is twilight in the American Empire. These are the same politicians who enabled giant corporations to move their manufacturing to China. It is easier to incite fear in your local population if you have a boogeyman thousands of miles away that you have encircled with military bases.
people think such things due to the very propaganda heavy culture of the country. its no secret what they do and tell their citizens, and looking at it from an american perspective makes people think these things, whether its true or not is not up for me to decide.
Honestly that sounds way too extreme that I think you might be making a strawman. You sure you're not confusing China with N.korea? Coz what you're describing is precisely how people view N.korea.
Bro asmond how the hell are you insanely misinformed about china. I've moved to china just under a year ago and it's nothing like we are taught there. For example, vpns are completely legal. They have to be legal otherwise chinese companies wouldn't be able to do business outside of china. I could keep ranting but seriously china is very different than how america perceives it and american media portrays it
It's just an American thing. They only get shown the worst from other countries so their government can maintain the mythical facade of America being better than everywhere else.
People keep bringing up that "lol they have all these laws but don't arrest you for breaking them." That's not the point. They don't care about random nobodies using VPNs. The point of the laws is so that they can arrest people the government wants to arrest whenever and wherever they'd like.
It’s crazy to learn the fact that everyone in China could own guns before 1993. The government actually sent military personnels to teach the people how to use AND MANUFACTURE the weapons. Then in 1993 a couple of people from two villages fought over the ownership of a well or something, which soon developed into a battle involving 5000+ people as they started calling their relatives for help. People pulled out hand-crafted guns/ grenades/ cannons and fired at each other. The local police just did not have enough power to get involved. It didn’t get resolved until the military took action. Soon after that the government invested a lot of effort to make the country free of hot weapons… I suppose in that sense there is still a chance that US can do it as well, if people are determined
In fact, it is precisely because guns cannot be carried and there are cameras on the roads that the crime rate in our city is very low. Even if you go out to buy food at 12 pm, you don't have to worry about criminals. I have never heard of robbery or theft near my home because the police are very fast and can arrest criminals in less than 24 hours. In my opinion, this is more advantageous than disadvantageous
I just got back from China visiting my mother’s hometown. There’s around 300k people that live there and it’s a rather poor area. When my American dad walked past some teenagers, they started discussing America. One said it’s a horrible place with terrible people because of all the killings, school shootings, etc. The other said that “Well not everyone in America is bad. There are good people there too.” (They spoke in Chinese, this is the translation)
Dialectically viewing issues is a very fundamental quality in China, where everyone knows to look at problems from multiple perspectives, seeing both the positive and negative aspects. A final reminder: China is not a developed country; it is a developing country with a vast population, and there are still issues of wealth disparity. In the last couple of years, China has just eliminated absolute poverty.
China people's thinking is relatively consistent. I didn't expect Americans to be divided into different races and different political spectrums. The left and the right are simply two different people! Even so, we should eliminate the misunderstanding and demonization imposed on us by the government and the media, and get to know each other and communicate with each other, otherwise each other will think that the other is a demon.
@asdfghjkl92213 naur your wechat rarely ever gets perma banned. Suspension happens but to get permanently banned requires some international level of protest
The other thing I noticed is that, in many countries people don’t study world history (& world geography?)in school.. But Chinese do… because back in 1800s we were conquered and part of the reason is we don’t know about the world outside. We learnt from that lesson. Now we have our eyes open while the countries used to make us open our eyes turned to be blind….
As a Chinese person, I really don't understand. Why not study world history or geography? People don't just live in their own countries; they live on Earth. The cultures of different countries all have their own charm. There is a Chinese proverb that says, "Take the essence and discard the dregs." Without absorbing the advantages of a broader range of cultures, one's own nation and ethnicity can only become stagnant and insular.
@@PixelFighterKing Right, like, do people realize the Chinese government is horrible? Like, objectively horrible? And they have a vested interest in hiding all of the bad aspects of Chinese society from travellers?
@@muffine5279 MMA fighter who challenged the legitimacy of traditional martial arts in china by fighting and kicking the asses of these "grandmasters." the ccp saw it as an attack to their culture and heritage and punished him severely and even forced him under threat to issue an apology. Theres a lot of info on this on YT. truly sickening what they can do to an individual that goes against societal agendas.
@@PixelFighterKing Well the problem Is Chinese martial arts mostly are not for combating but more of a way to exercise to body and a way to find inner peace and cleanse of one’s soul.
I am Chinese and have been living in Canada for 6 years. Before I came here, it's hard to say that Chinese government never depreciates US but it's rare, especially some official medias, e.g., CCTV. So, from what I feel, most Chinese have relatively positive opinion against US, and most other countries in the world. In recent years, it might go down in some degree because of the trade/finance/tech war.
Chinese coverage of the US in official channel is cover the negatives, but never smear or lie. American coverage of China is about 50% negative coverage, 50% outright lies, with a little bit of race baiting sprinkled on.
long-term, if you have a strong education and want to advance, you can't attack another country or your people will wise up to it, but if you let them attack you, your people will be more patriotic and hate them for feeling discriminated
My only warning to them is that China may critically damage their egos. That's why there's such a big appetite for China-will-collapse type "news", it's a way to cling onto their fading superiority complexes. This sounds like a harsh interpretation but dude I think it's true in like....A LOT of instances. Anyway China still needs some time, she was DIRT POOR just a few decades ago
@@dindunuphenwong ROFL! I love how you know nothing about Russian and Chinese politics so you'd just fall back on what's been popularised by Western media. Chernobyl and Square happened more than 30 years ago. This is how far you have to go back in time. 😄
@@BatCountryAdventures That's how far I have to go back in time in order to not get yeeted and deleted by the powers that be. Why is that? Food for thought.
As an engineer who travels frequently between China and the US, I must say that critical thinking and freedom of speech are equally important. Unfortunately, people in both countries lack one of them.
just curious, if you can only choose one, which would you choose? i know what i would choose, and I'm guessing i know what you would choose, or at least what most americans would choose. it's down to cultural difference and the results show.
I'm Chinese, and I'm studying in US now. I am shocked whenever Americans said Korea or Japan is part of China. I'm like wow, ok, never say that again. Because whenever they say that, this means what Japan/Japanese does or Korea/Korean does is what China/Chinese does. Also, so many Americans don't even know that Japan has been discharging nuclear waste water for several years. And when they know, they blame that shit on China (this maybe because the Japanese media and government trying to gaslighting or misleading Americans). Also, some Americans dislike Koreans because Korea stole other countries culture, but in this case, they dislike Chinese people too, because they think Korea is part of China!!!! Because they think Korea is a city of China!!! which is definitely not true, wtf
Chinese don't see propaganda as a negative thing the way people in the West do. So pointing it out isn't really "speaking against China". It is a pretty neutral term in Chinese, the communist party literally has a department called the Department of Propaganda. It's not only for political stuff, any type of public service announcement also goes through it.
It's not "don't see as a negative thing", but "admit that it exists and is ubiquitous". Meanwhile, many people around the world believes that there are receiving information from media agencies which are neutral and free from propaganda.
Now you're just getting into semantics. Substitute the word propaganda for the words society brainwashing or behavioral correction and see how well that goes over with the Chinese population. Bc that is exactly how the word is meant in English.
@@canto_v12 exactly, all government communications are seen as "xuan chuan", it's just that the english translation "propaganda" has a negative connotation.
When I went to London a month ago, I visited all of the biggest landmarks: Big Ben, the Tower, and the British Museum. I'm not exaggerating when I say that there were HORDES of tourists. Their Nationality was overwhelmingly Chinese. They were affluent, traveling Chinese people, traveling in large groups, solo, etc. You want to know who doesn't travel? People who are dirt poor. I can't help but conclude that the economic woes of China are horribly exaggerated
From two perspectives, this view is exaggerated, but China is a country with a population of 1.4 billion, even if the poverty rate is only 1%, that is still 14 million people.
People, humans, the world over, are more alike than different. We're all just trying to get by. A handful of outspoken bombasts color our perspectives of entire people. I'm glad this interviewer talked with a variety of ages to get an interesting composite opinion.
Agreed. I’ve seen many Chinese netizens complain about life struggles in a way that’s implies they’re the only ones struggling. Many are still under the impression western first world countries are like heaven, and all their problems will disappear if they move there. But I’ve been on both sides of the internet, and in truth. Everyone is struggling, mostly sharing the same struggles. However if someone in China cares more about protesting in the streets, moving abroad makes sense. I care about public safety, so I’d rather move to China. We all struggle but pick and choose our battles. But people focus more on differences than similarities
@@bananaana1860 China doesn’t have separation of powers. So making any changes and voicing anything hard. Public safety rn is an illusion. In fact, it isn’t that different from previous dynasty that ruled China. The struggle and grievances boiled up, and you have uprising.
@@bananaana1860 separation of powers doesn’t exist in China. So making any real changes difficult because it involved the top. Instead of the US, I would rather it compared to South Korea. SK Protest a lot. They didn’t go into riot, which partly due to their culture. And in turn made bunch of changes. Public safety in China rn is an illusion. I do feel the grievances boil up. This isn’t new tho if you read previous dynasties history. It followed the same pattern.
