This aged very well . Like this if you’re here after the nuggets beat the clippers and Utah becoming the first team in nba history to EVER come back from more than one 3-1 deficit to win .
No single team is responsible for a trade that *BOTH* teams wanted. Harden, KD, Shaq, and Bron are more valuable than Gobert and Mitchell. Did OKC build the Rockets and the Warriors, or did they build themselves? Did the Orlando Magic build the Lakers? Did the Cavs build the Heat? Short answer - No.
The Nuggets are actually very refreshing. They play as a team, fully support each other, and play hard for the coach. Since no big name players wanted to come to Denver and form a “Big 3”, the organization quietly built a solid squad top to bottom, and their depth is second to none. While ESPN and others hype the bottom feeder Lakers every 5 seconds, the Nuggets have the best record with 1/10 of the publicity. Bravo!
This media hype of Lebron has made an interesting effect on people in Europe (dunno about USA or rest of the world) and lots of ppl just started dissliking Lebron (not to say hate him). People here dont like to be served as much propaganda bullshit, guess people in USA are used to it and dont mind..Who knows they might even trust it. East is no better with constant talking of Celtics who arent in the top 4 teams in any category. Indiana has been overlooked and they are a great team with lots of potential.. Raptors got a bit more coverage cause of Kawhi and Sixers cause of Embid, but in all honesty that team plays good basketball even without Joel. I just hate it when media focuses on 1 guy.. Its just moronic.. No player can win alone or make a team great or even decent. This is a team sport and it takes 5 good starters and another few good players off the bench to have a good team..this aint tennis or boxing and even in those sports a great player/athlet cant win without good support from coaches, managers, family ectr.. I think NBA and its media should focus more on team culture and develop that so the fans all over the USA or the world would be loyal to a franchise and not just to a single player. In europe Higuain signs from Napoli to Juventus and all his fans just burn their Higuan shirts.. and they support Napoli still.. not move on to his next club. Here you are a fan of a club. Having a good player on it is just a bonus.
Bih Lasagna ahahahaha true af jokic is the best center in the league kat and joel is what people are talking about but he is the best center in the league
One thing about that Donovan Mitchell trade. The Nuggets traded Mitchell for the 24th pick because they believed that OG Anunoby was going to drop to the 24th pick., Unfortunately, the Raptors drafted OG with the 23rd pick, leaving the Nuggets to draft Tyler Lydon.
I was so pissed as a nuggets fan watching every draft we have got a shooting guard, then we get mitchell i was irritated because I knew we had harris and murray, but I was more pissed when we made that trade, i was originally hoping we would go with OG
Masai ujiri is like the bob the builder of the nba he built a championship team in Toronto A championship contender in Denver and unintentionally built a young beast of a team in Utah. My guy makes diamonds out of coal
In 2020, the Nuggets' philosophy of internal growth and not skipping steps has paid off with an unlikely appearance to the Western Conference Finals by beating the title favorites in the Los Angeles Clippers. They may be defeated in the WCF by a superior Lakers team, but the philosophy of the team in terms of roster-building is just going to continue paying off as players such as Porter and even Murray will continue to develop alongside the MVP-caliber play of Nikola Jokic.
If you tank, you wouldn't be able to develop the culture of hard work and dedication to winning that the Nuggets have. This is the Phoenix Suns and the Kincks biggest problem imo and it's why the same teams end up in the draft every year. There is enough talent hidden in the draft so that you don't have to tank. Gary Harris 19th pick, Jokic 42nd, Nurk 19th, Mitchell 13th, Gobert 27th. The Sixers are an exception but they basically drafted 2 home runs in Embiid and Simmons. DO NOT TANK, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. Nuggets highest pick was just 7th
Just tanking is bad for the morale imho. However, the Sixers "process" was better than tanking. They improved their players performance then traded them at their peak record, then traded every other asset that isn't bolted down.
Hindsight is 20/20... Nuggets did tank, as explained in the video, they jus didnt do it the tanking conventional way as we accustomed to. But trading away franchise assets in favor of restarting for next season is a form of tanking. Its equivalent to giving up on the season in favor of looking forward to the next.!
suns didn't really tank tho. They got rid of their entire roster and so they became naturally trash. On top of them being pretty terrible in the draft.
CPGoat #3 i want you to think before you answer. Look what u wrote... and ask urself these 2 questions. Did they give up on the season. And why did they trade away their roster.
@@rayjameson937 They let Amare go because the didnt want to pay him. They moved on from an older Injury prone nash. They had something going with Goran and Bledsoe. They traded away Bledsoe because he wanted out. They traded away Goran because he wanted out. They struck out on Len and several other picks.They found a steal in Booker and wanted to build around him. They struck out on dragon bender. Josh Jackson has been ehh, tj has been okay, Ayton looks good but had flaws and is young, same with Booker. They dont sign big free agents in Phoenix so they have a bunch of young inconsistent, inexperienced talent which leads to losing. That's natural losing not tanking. They always played hard. they just sucked. I watched philly for the last 7 years. THAT is tanking. Phoenix has not been doing that.
This video was at the top of my page when i opened it today i thought it was new then i watched it and was like whats this dude talking about murray has turned out decent. They the champs now babys! Good video though my man
I can not believe how fast the Denver Nuggets have rebuilt. They made it look easy and I believe most of this has become possible under Malone’s coaching. The way he coaches and the way he connects with his young players really shows in how confident they are when they’re on the court, it also helps that Jokic is very determined in the game of basketball and has quickly made himself a staple in the Nuggets franchise and proves to us nearly every game why the NBA should take him more seriously. When Jokic is on fire that entire team lights up, he makes basketball look easy with how he passes, dunks, and push guys around like they’re little kids lol I think Jokic definitely should be in the talks of MVP! It’s insane that he’s not being taken seriously. #MVP
to all u morons who still say the Nuggets drafted and traded Gobert and Mitchell. Your wrong. Because the way the CBA is set up the Nuggets had to announce those picks as theres since players cant officially join there new teams until the new league year starts. So when u say Denver drafted and traded Gobert your wrong. The trade was agreed before hand and Denver picked Gobert for the Jazz. Meaning he was never a Denver Nugget. So stop that bullshit rhetoric that Denver gifted the Jazz 2 great players and give the Jazz credit for drafting them nuggets had nothing to do with that.
The nets did pretty good too with no draft picks. I’m not talking about the signings they made I’m talking about the players they got late and traded for for next to nothing.
Shoutout to the Nuggets fans, I remember the Robert Pack Antonio McDyess Dikembe Mutumbo Reaf LaPhrentz LaPhonzo Ellis days, Nuggets fans y'all deserve to experience what warriors fans got to for the past 5 years.
Best team Denver has ever had. Can’t wait to see MPJ play with Murray and jokic. Beasley has just as much talent as Harris and plumlee plays hard. Let’s go nuggets
Nurkic trade was a win-win. Both guys are doing well going their separate ways. Prayers for Nurkic health, I really hope he can walk again, and pray he'll play basketball in the future.
Nuggets fan since 2012. Gotta tell you, this video was accurate, and very informative as to the background of the organization, and the savvy and foresight with which moves were made, as well as the commitment to young talent to allow them to grow and become a cohesive team, which with examples of LA and the Celtics, is becoming a less and less valued concept, it seems. I did like to note though, that Shaq's only mvp winning season, he averaged 29, 14, and 4 assists. a absolutely phenomenal year, in which he averaged 40 minutes a game... If you were to extend Nikola's minutes to 40, he'd be averaging 24, 14 and 10 assists, along with a 30% three point shot, and he has also been more clutch than Lebron comparatively at this point in his each of their careers. So will he win MVP this year, without becoming some hot headed egomaniac, no. But the numbers do not lie. If Giannis or Harden win MVP, atleast consider that Jokic splits healthy minutes with another incredibly diverse talent in Mason Plumlee. Neither Giannis nor James have to split minutes with another player at their position the way that Jokic, willingly which I find incredibly important, does.
I'm a Celtics fan but man hats off to Denver and their whole organisation. What a team for the future they have. As long as jokic doesn't change teams to go be extremely successful. *cough cough* Kevin Durant *cough cough*
As a life long nuggets fan, i can say that a lot of us were actually happy with the George Karl firing. At the time, we couldn’t get out the first round with Karl and we’re tired of that. What’s the point of making the playoffs just to lose. So we wanted a fresh start. I think without the firing we would be like the current trailblazers. Make playoffs but never actually have a chance to win it all. It was like a needed restart
I find it interesting you didn't actually say what he did wrong but just point to not making it further with those players. Your players weren't all that to just blame coach I'd think. Portland coach isn't the issue so funny you bring up Portland when they have one top 15 player
George Karl had a major issue connecting with players. He got a lot out of some, and completely stifled others. To drive home the point, look at where George Karl has been since he left the Nuggets organization. No one wants him. He’s boarder line toxic.
We will be tied for the longest playoff streak in nba history by the end of the season. Sure it will come to an end as all things do but once they do there will never be a team as dominant as the Spurs. The reason is because L3-6ron made it popular to go to a better situation in free agency. Then when snaKD did it, this free agent shit really got out of hand
@@foreignnut1962 well at the end you will not happy just only have long streak playoff year without having loud sound in playoff .. for me i rather break the streak for like 1 or 2 years for bounce back and make loud noise in playoff .. and yeah .. another team free agent situation is not your team problem as long as they dont take away your player .. look at this denver team we can easily say that free agent star doesnt want to come to denver .. but they still survive .. they are better every season .. but for me they still need 1 star remaining to make far run into playoff ..
Great video, well chronicled. I can really appreciate teams that quietly go about the business acquiring money ball players without resorting to tanking, or going after free agents.
You forgot to mention their GM Arturas Karnisovas who is probably one of the best GMs in the league right now. The guy had a tremendous career in NCAA and Europe, one of the all-time best scorers in Europe. He has been doing great things for nuggets since 2013
Where even though the Spurs were given up for dead regard the DEPORTATION of K Leonard and injuries wholesale within the team, they kept getting up pardner. It would be nice to have Danny Green come back to the Spurs after his tour in Toronto is over. Will the Spurs ever FORGIVE K. Leonard? Nope! Not even. Yeah, the Nuggets are a very good team. Jo Jo Boy , ..... Damn! Pesky Murry, Harris, Plumlee studding up.
Gary Harris is a perfect SG for this team. Good defender, athletic, shoots the 3 well and helps make up for some of the defensive struggles of murray and Jokic
Don't forget about Bol Bol. He is a skinny version of Jokic. And PJ Dozier can be good player in this league. The injuries to Jamal Murray, Paul Millsap, and Mason Plumlee is a blessing in a disguise. That let you know how deep this team is
Excellent video, even as a Nuggets fan I didn’t know how we had gotten to this point. As we speak, they beat the Spurs in the first round and will face Portland.
Gave the Jazz their rebuild. Gave Warriors and Blazers 2 incredible pieces in Iguodala & Nurkic as well in doing all of this.. But, still, very well done.
A couple of things. Iguodala had a foot out the door during the playoffs against the Warriors. The 'trade' was a sign and trade, not just a regular trade since he wasn't under contract. Second, during the NBA draft the agreement to trade is agreed upon but not announced until after the player is picked. This means the Jazz told the Nuggets to draft Gobert for them as part of the trade agreement. It's not like the Nuggets foolishly traded him on draft night. They drafted him FOR the Jazz because they agreed to trade the pick to them before they were on the clock.
Great analysis man, they also managed to create a culture and a team identity that suits the modern high-pace-&-space NBA without any major road bump while dealing with problematic players like Mudiay, Faried and IT this season. I hope for the Nuggets' fans that Porter Jr can integrate smoothly into this team without creating any problem ego-wise, considering he was quite a high profiled prospect and had media drooling all over him.
@@danielfenning3902 Yep, while also managing his herniated discs rather well, until now. Knocks on wood. I also feel that Jokic's supreme skill set and quiet presence have put him in check, as Tim Duncan did in SA.
Yes but with his kind of injury it may be better for him to come off the bench as a Swiss-army knife like Iguodala in order to keep his minutes at a certain level. From what I know, he could become a Greg Oden type of player, his injury can be career-ending at worst and minutes-restricting at best if it woke up.
@@nickcrandell5852 Last news are he got another problem on his foot, the toes are touching the floor first instead of the heel, I hope he recovers from that too. It would be such a waste of talent if he doesn't heal from that now.
Great video. The Nuggets are a very underrated team. It sucks that they helped their rivals, but they'll beat the Jazz in seven if it comes down to it.
Loved this video. Jokic and Siakam are my two favorite "non mainstream" super stars. They are their team's respective MVP regardless of what the rest of the league says.
You missed a major story man. During the playoff series against the warriors, while he was still on the Nuggets, Iggy was joining Mark Jackson and the warriors in team prayers before each game and according to George Karl in his book, Iggy was telling the Golden State Warriors the Nuggets plays and strategies for the game. After the warriors won the series, Iggy ended up getting a big contract by them the following off-season so his betrayal worked out for him in the end.
u dont have to, but if ur someone stuck in no man's land and your management is bad at drafting, sometimes tanking is the best option. Ala Orlando. They've been bad enough to be in the top 5 but not bad enough to get a top 3 pick , and then they always either strike out on a pick or give up to early on developing someone like Oladipo. At that point u might as well just tank and stock assets if ur gonna be that terrible on all fronts.
Theoretically, you can obtain good young players with a championship team. Trade some pieces when they are 32/33 for future draft picks, then the tank wont last as long.
Watching this now and hearing "Denver drafted MPJ and that could be a problem in years to come". You could not have been more right sir, MPJ is a BALLER and hes showing it this year 👌.
Tanking (understood as losing a ton of games to get a high draft pick) doesn't really help a franchise. It hurts the players they already have and their culture, and high draft picks aren't a guarantee of good players. On the other hand, if you are rebuilding, trading players who will be too old when you finish the rebuild and trying to get as many draft picks as possible (if you have a lot of them, someone will develop into a good player) is the best strategy. You will still lose a lot, but you can try to win, so it doesn't hurt your culture nearly as bad and your young players get time on the court. When you have a solid core, then you can buy in exchange for draft picks that probably won't pan out before you lose the core you already have. It's the same thing the sixers did, and the same thing the bucks did, and the reason we talk about buyer teams and seller teams. What will get you in trouble is trying to trade for good players without an already developed core, that's what the nets did and what the Lakers seem to be doing. It's also a mistake tanking just to get a higher draft pick, and another just hope you land a great free agent. You need a basic structure already built, both a culture and actual players, before you put those prized, expensive assets you get in a trade and in free agency. Or at least that's how I see it
