if you are blasted to bits, possibly get repaired and repeat. I guess some of them were unfortunate enough to die like a dozen times, though they probably got their memory wiped.
@@GGBones droids are sentient creatures if you weren't aware, just like organics. Programming was just limitations placed on their sentience to keep them in line
There not living beings a living beings is something beings born from a other person or thing they were bron in tube things and I guess artificially created by the Kaminos scientists
Clone wars handled it best proving just how difficult the war was for everyone, the clones especially, with how often they lost the brothers they trained beside from birth. And the “lucky ones” that did endure and survive have nothing to show for it, merely just relics of a war that were discarded by Palpatine.
@@Fi_Sci_ after fighting In one of the largest bloodiest conflicts in history wouldn't that be awesome? Also they mostly chose to stay in the military with lots of vacation time think vegas disney and a luxury resort all rolled up in one planet that was where they went on vacation
@@boneybaron2508 no doubt about that, losing so many brothers makes a vacation/Retirement very worthwhile. And also provides plenty of time to reflect on life, and likely even realize the Jedi they betrayed were never truly the villains, and that they were only programmed to believe that.
@@Fi_Sci_ A) better than nothing B) there is nothing that can make up for a clones hellish life C)most jedi absolutely were the villain because they treated their clones like the droids they fought or absolute trash jedi like Obi-wan and Anakin were the exception not the rule D) palpatine did a great job caring for the clones even if it was for bad reasons. The Clones were given much more respect and a government they could actually believe because of palpatine Palpatine did all this for the worst possible reasons but from a clone's POV palpatine was the greatest thing to ever happen to them
"We Clones have mixed feelings about the war. Some wish it never happened, but without it we wouldn't exist." Also, yes I for one am all for learning about the life of Battle Droids.
You have to admit it makes the whole thing complicated. It’s easy to criticize the Kaminoans, Republic, the Jedi, and the Sith for how they use and treat the clones, but then you realize them, they wouldn’t even exist in the first place. A lot of clones might have viewed their service to the Republic as a way to pay back for being alive in the first place, though that might have made several not even be bothered by the fact they were never paid and always had to rely on the army for food and shelter. It always makes me wonder what would have happened to the clones of Palpatine had failed, but the Republic still won the war? I suppose eventually they would be decommissioned, but it wouldn’t happen as soon as it did in the Empire. First of all in such a timeline the whole Palpatine plot would have to be exposed for him to lose. So public opinion of the clones would fall whether or not they took the chip into account. Kaminoans would also get a hit on their popularity. For better or worse, I could imagine the Senate ordering the two species to stay on Kamino because they no longer trust them. The Republic was in the edge of becoming an empire and it would take years to reform to reverse everything. Instead of a new army being formed out of patriotism, the next generation of soldiers would be out of pragmatism since the Senate would probably be rushing to rid the Republic of internal threats. I do wonder if banishment would eventually lead to the Kaminoans and the Clones establishing a close relationship or if it would eventually erupt into the clones of the older generations launching a coup against the Kaminoan government.
I always loved that one clone made it out and started a family. I always felt sad for the one who was deserted on a planet and didn't even know the clone wars ended.
The deserter who started a family was Cut. The one who was left on a planet for several years is (I'm not sure who you're referring to here, but I assume it's Able, a Legends-only clone trooper who served under Shaak Ti.)
The clone who didn’t know clone wars ended was kicks and he knew about order 66 so separatists captured him but they crashed and he woke up years later in his pod after the clone wars had ended
@@brandenbosserman7162 Have you never played the original Battlefront 2? And Temuera Morrison is better than dee Bradley baker. If you even know who they are
I love how Geetslys is such a clone lives matter advocate. Really makes this feel real, like I'm in Star Wars protesting clone treatment, trying to gain support to address the Senate on the implications of clone slavery.
I've been thinking of presenting a clone adoption program to the Senate for a while now, but I have a feeling they'd reject it on the grounds that "they wouldn't be as effective soldiers"
Wonder why Anakin never showed second thoughts about the Clones considering he was a slave. Hell he should have been lobbying (using his influence as the Hero of the Clone Wars) to actually give the Troopers rights and freedoms.
If he hadn't turned into a one man war crime at the end of the war, he might have well done that. He wanted to become a Jedi so he could free slaves so it'd make sense that after the war was over they'd probably be one of his first priorities.
Short answer, privilege. a lot of the downtrodden ones who didn't grow up with decent morals to uphold would quickly end up being washed over by any newfound privilege they've found. their past days as the ones being the oppressed, to these people, would become a drive for them to never again fall to such positions ever FOR THEMSELVES, instead of actually fighting to end the very oppression they've faced. you'd think that it's natural for the oppressed to sympathized with other oppressed people, yet history has taught us again & again, that a lot of oppressors actually started out as oppressed people as well.
I really wish that the clone wars delved more into the minds of clones who deserted because that season 2 episode is really interesting, but I feel like it barely touched the surface of what could've been a really cool aspect about the clones.
I agree, it would have been nice to see the life of a clone squadron that deserted instead of the stereotyped tv show we're getting soon of those mutant clones.
"Clone Commandos had it worst" was this worth it though to at least have a chance at having something close to a person who cares about you as a person besides your batch mates?
@@twodimensional6887 he could've, yet he followed orders to point. Fives held a DC-15S carbine blaster to the Chancellor and not to mention he did warn fives not to go for the gun.
Something that the clones had that you didn’t mention is the gift of purpose. They knew exactly why they existed and why they fought. They didn’t have to worry about external struggles like money, food, shelter, etc... it’s a gift many of us still don’t appreciate or don’t understand.
The problem with that is that they all knew the war wouldn't last forever and we see them echo this sentiment often. Imagine the existential dread of knowing that if you fulfill your purpose, do your best and manage to survive, you'd be left with most of your life without one anymore. Especially for a being that's always had a purpose.
@@mrwindupbird101 Plenty of regular normal human soldiers have this problem when wars end, too. So it can only be exponentially worse for a clone soldier
A gift, at what cost? sure, they don't have to worry about money, food, shelter, bla bla bla... cuz they've to worry about if they're gonna serve under some incompetent piece of shit of a jedi commanding officer somewhere, & if they're gonna come back alive, among other shit they have to put up with that most of us civies would never appreciate nor understand. gift of purpose is only a gift when it's something YOU discover for yourself, NOT when it's something that got shoved down your throat whether you like it or not.
I feel bad for the poor shab'ike, they were literally slaves and the Jedi didn't do anything to help them in that sense, and on top of it all, they don't even live half as long as a normal person, even if they did survive combat.
The jedi has been reduced from a monastic organization seeking spiritual enlightenment & helping the downtrodden, to just a glorified overpowered police force of the republic, & with shit ridiculous rules at that. while the movies, being centered around the likes of Obi-wan kinda have us believe that jedi are in general like them, the truth is that they're actually the minority. the jedi, by the time of the clone wars, has gotten more interested in maintaining their numbers & preserving order for the republic, than actually helping people.
@@FalconWindblader Yeah, all in all they were not good people. And they kinda deserved to die, don't get me wrong there were some good ones and I don't like the sith but the Jedi needed to go.
When I was younger seeing Star Wars my favorite characters were the Jedi but after the clone wars had come out the clones quickly became my favorite characters and even more so after I joined the military
I really wish more jedi generals were like Kenobi, Skywalker, and Plo Koon. Instead, most were like Pong Krell at worst, and at best just seeing clones as slightly better droids
It get even worse when you realize that the jedi were almost the only friends of Clones in the galaxy, and they were forced to killed them during and after the Order 66
The more I watch these videos about Star Wars lore the more I realize that the Star Wars universe isn't as family friendly as the advertisements would lead you to believe.
You see, the clones are trained all their life for battle but if you _really_ think about it, they've never actually been in a battle before so they are actually inexperienced whereas the Droids were already programmed to be in a battle but the clones were still able to beat them.
The thing is that, while to you and I a life of constant drills and military training sounds awful, the clones probably enjoyed it. Yes, a good part of that is because they were brainwashed and never knew anything different, but it's also deeply satisfying and, yes, even fun to do something you're good at in the company of people you love.
CIS Droids. Not all clones were combat focused; some were mechanics/engineers who worked on the starfighters (think U.S. Aircraft Carrier crews on deck). Thus, its probably a good idea to also explain what those Mouse droids on Mustafar were doing in “Revenge of the Sith”…
Even after watching every single star wars movie both from lucas and disney i can safely admit i only enjoyed watching those shows that were mainly about the clones...thus the clone wars was my favorite part of the entire star wars universe
I want a star wars game where you play as a regular clone, fighting droids and watching your comrades die right in front of you. By the end of your adventure you meet the same fate as your brothers.
Something I've wondered: The Republic already had people of higher military ranks, such as Captain Tarkin, (who, as I understand, retired from military service, then returned due to the war), etc. Therefore, I wonder this: The Republic likely had at least a small military before the war, but not a "GRAND Army of the Republic". This likely included a few million privates (This is, after all, an intragalactic batallion, after all. I've always assumed the clones numbered in the billions.) How did the existing grunts meld with the sudden influx of clone troopers at their side? How did the clone troopers deal with them? Were they all decommissioned or did they fight along side the clone troopers?
From my understanding of the legends lore: The republic didn’t have an official military but most planets did and they were recognized by the republic. Even companies had armies/militia since they need local enforcement (ie: trade federation). When the clone wars started most of the planets that stayed with the republic kept their armies and folded them into the grand army. The clones were more like marines and would be the first in an assault as well as being used for defense of critical infrastructure. So if the CIS invaded a system that planets army would fight them until the clones showed up to continue it if they really had to. There were billions of clones but being spread across a galaxy meant that they were mostly only used for the really important battles and invasions. That’s my understanding. If you ask Lucas he said there were like a million clones that fought with no normal life forms beside them. Which is pretty stupid when considering how big an entire galaxy is :/
This reminds me of my time in the Army Infantry. Train for 7 months learning dicipline, doing shooting drills, weapons maintenance, bay maintenance, weapons classes, eating same food everyday, and then going to bed for the remaining 7 hrs of your day. If you do have an hour to kill your told to do something productive. Then you go to your unit and it's the same thing with the ability to have your phone when not busy and go off base, but that can be taken away from you if your a bad soldier. And your told not to engage in politics, well more like keep it to yourself. It sounds like a bad life but some people need it and absolutely love it.
Wasn’t there a similar thing to that music in Vietnam, where they played music US soldiers liked and read letters collected from dead US soldiers. It differs in the propaganda, but it’s still very similar.
Do the average life of Battle Droids. Several kinds would be nice too as B1 could get assigned to all kinda of tasks while I've never seen a B2 on the command deck of a warship or piloting a vehicle.
I feel sorry for the battalion that was under pong krells command, seeing how abusive he was toward the 501. It’s no doubt he didn’t do the same to his squad.
clone commandos definitely didnt have it worst. some had amazing sergeants like bralor or skirata, and while some had terrible ones like Vau who would beat them up or others who would force them to fight each other, all the training sergeants hated the aiwha-bait and so they at least wouldnt be reconditioned (as much).
My brother and I have Star Wars Lego sets, and a few sets have clones. Since neither of us are even 12, we don’t go into these deep subjects with the clones and ultimately give them pretty easy lives, or at least better ones than they would get in the clone wars. So I think people should treat any clone characters of theirs well.
“Just like the simulations” Ok but you see that the Jedi cared about them: there’s many examples but I’m going to give one that not a lot of people my remember. When Ahsoka was left alone with Rex and just like 3 other troopers she decided to go after Grevious so they could escape, and when Rex found out he protested and wanted to go to help her but she said “that’s an order, Rex!” Not wanting them to potentially die or get seriously injured.
It must have made some Jedi have mixed feelings to some extent(even with the emotion supressing) that you have millions of soldiers whos lives you can sense being lost in the force opposed to battle droids(although not lifeless, Dont have those same attachments)
Its truly disturbing to see the true implications of a clone troopers life in general. Its depressing they were good men who deserved freedom and better lives.
Spend all your life training to become the best of the best then you get to go to your 1st battle. You load into the LAAT and as you head in the trooper next to you says “good thing those bugs can’t aim” then boom your gunship gets hit and you fly out of the troop hold to fall to your death.
I love the clones, they deserve better, they sacrifice their selves which makes me grieve for their troubles. I would gladly take in a group of clones if I was in star wars and treat them like family. And synce they are all brothers they are loyal to each other and that's how I like people. They should have a full right.
I wish there would've been crowds of people cheering the Clones and mascots, merchandise and all kinds of fan items and kids dressing up as Clone Troopers, maybe that would've made them a bit happier😭😭
I don’t think anyone truly wants to be a soldier in Star Wars. Well except for the mandalorians. B1s, Clones, Rebels, Stormtroopers etc. They get killed in the hundreds. Sometimes not even from the enemy. The wildlife and plants are just as likely to make a meal of you.
Yeah, like Hardcase (or whatever his name is, the one that got eaten by a thing that grows on umbara. Someone yeeted a rock at it and it suddenly ate it)
The war was pretty much fought by three slave armies, droids, clones and lastly the Jedi, yes the Jedi were slaves but like the clones they do didn't recognize that they were slaves which apart of the reason why they had to be wiped out, in a sense the Sith freed their enemies from slavery thou pretty much the freest people in the galaxy were the Hutts and their Bounty Hunters
I’d like to believe that part of why Rex was able to fight back was because he learned from Anakin that following orders is not always the right course of action, while the chip in the clones always had them repeating “good clones follow orders”. In that headcanon, it also makes sense why Cody couldn’t fight back-Obi-Wan’s style was usually to question things silently and mull them over rather than outright reject them (with a few exceptions).
