How the Magic fell from the Shaq-Penny '90s powerhouse to the NBA's basement 

It's amazing how a franchise can not only lose 1 franchise center that led them to the Finals, but end up losing 2 franchise centers that led them to the Finals in the span of 20 years

First franchise with two collapse videos. Well done Magic!

The fact that this Collapse ends with a man... who *begins another Collapse* REALLY says something about Orlando, doesn't it 😭

Penny’s injuries are the biggest “what if” of the late 90s

Man Shaq leading his expansion team to a .500 record is nuts, not enough people talk about that, how great he was in Orlando. I know the 3 peat finals series were all time but this guy hit the ground running

Thank you employees and owners of secret base. Just one man here but these videos are some of the reason I wake up in the morning. Got me through it all and I’m still here. So thank you

Also, it's wild that Orlando and Miami never met in the playoffs numerous times. Only once (1997)

Losing Shaq has to be one of the biggest fumbles in NBA history.

Never forget those 4 missed Nick Anderson free throws. If the Magic win that game, the series becomes infinitely more competitive, and I’d favor the Shaq-Penny youth tandem down the stretch to win it all. It’s amazing how NBA history rides on small moments like this.

9:53: The fact that there was video footage of Scott's rant to those campers and Scott probably thought to himself years later, "Thank god social media wasn't a thing back then," If that happened in today's time, boy oh boy. Nevertheless, another great video from you guys

........as a Orlando Magic fan for years, this video was Heartbreaking to watch. 😪💔

I think the 1979 Sonics would make a great episode for this series. They were the final champion before the era of Magic and Bird began, so you could explore how they attempted to keep up with the radically altered NBA landscape of the early 80s. On top of that there’s also the Gus Williams holdout and the incredibly stupid Dennis Johnson trade.

The Shaq and Penny Era in Orlando produced the following results: 93-94 (swept 0-3 in 1st rd by Pacers) 94-95 (swept 0-4 in the NBA Finals by Rockets) 95-96 (swept 0-4 ECF by the Bulls) With that being said, this episode has the possibility to be a classic!

I love how this blends perfectly with the collapse episode on the Dwight Howard Magic team

I remember in 2000 hearing about the Magic talking to Tim Duncan and playing NBA Live 2000 and putting Duncan, Hill and McGrady all on the Magic and playing the game to see how it would look to have all three on the team....such a what if, if Duncan decided to sign with the Magic along with T-Mac and G-Hill, I think they could have finally won a NBA championship.

The 4 missed free throws by Nick in Game 1 of the 95 NBA Finals wasn't his only miscue. On the following play, he didn't take the delay of game during the out of bounds. This led to Kenny Smith getting a better look at a 3-pt shot, which he buried sending the game into OT. In the closing moments, he was unable to keep Drexler from going right, which was Drexler's dominant-hand. The drive to the basket by Drexler prompted Shaq to come over with help defense. This left Olajuwon alone under the basket for a game winning tip-in and a 120-118 Rockets victory.

Nick Anderson's 4 missed free throws changed the momentum of the game

It's always a good day for me when Seth talks about 90s NBA. 🙂

Those 90s Magic jerseys are the most 90s jerseys to ever 90s

how bad does your franchise have to be to have TWO separate collapse videos 😭😭😭

Doc Rivers taking that no-name squad to 41-41 is insane. For him to do that so early in his NBA coaching career is the icing on the cake. I never would have imagined a COACH could carry a team that much. (Bonus factoid: Since 2007-08, Doc Rivers has coached three teams and has missed the playoffs ONE time.)

That Game 1 of the 95 Finals has to be the greatest Game 1 of any sport in a seven game series. I was just a kid but I still remember watching Nick Anderson with those missed free throws, I thought he was going to cry. I felt so sorry for him.

Collapse: how the Montreal Canadiens failed to reach sniffing distance of Lord Stanley for 28 years Untitled: Marcel Dionne Rewinder: the miracle of Istanbul Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: Paul kariya Rewinder: game 7 of the 1994 Stanley cup finals Collapse: how the Anaheim ducks went from champions to annual chokers Untitled: Don Nelson as a coach Beef history: Mike ditka vs buddy ryan Beef history: New York giants vs Philadelphia eagles Untitled: pavel Bure Rewinder: Kirby puckett’s walk off in the World Series Collapse: how the New York islanders went from legendary dynasty, to the league’s basement Collapse: how the Washington redskins died at the hands of Dan Snyder Untitled: Bruce Matthews Collapse: how the Buffalo bills failure to win one of 4 straight Super Bowls led to 2 decades of failure Collapse: how Pittsburgh Steelers steel curtain was melted down into spare parts

We’re back baby

That Dennis Scott incident was something I never forgot, it was so out there. I remember it being an actual mental breakdown and the Orlando management expressing genuine concern for D3's mental well-being. I never heard this was incorrect and D3 took some time to get better.

Having a front seat to the dynasty of Da Bulls, and then a front seat to the Magic from 97 to the present, this was a hell of a lot of nostalgia. Excellent as always.

this was my childhood, the story of a Magic fan growing up in the 90s. man I was so excited when we got grant hill. it was super disappointing to watch the injury thing happen again like it did to Penny

Absolutely loved that Shaq/Penny squad. So glad they are on 2k. Great video as always

This Magic Moment is in my top 5 of the 30 for 30’s

Damn, the Magic must be really bad when they get not one, but TWO Collapse videos. I'm still hoping the next Collapse video is about how the Redskins fell from grace because of Dan Snyder's incompetence. The guy is basically the James Dolan of the NFL.

Omg $55 mil over 4 years? That's so ridiculously low. No wonder Shaq left lol.

The Lil' Penny's Nike commercials were legendary in the 1990's, famously voiced by Chris Rock. The 1995/1996 Chicago Bulls led by "His Airness" Michael Jordan demolished what any chance the Orlando Magic had of being lengthy contenders in the Eastern Conference.

This team was so damn exciting and they got the draft right with Shaq and Penny. But Game 1 against Houston, it felt like the end started right there and Penny's injuries triggered an avalanche from melted snow created by Shaq being low-balled in free agency.

Collapse is one of the best series you guys have. I hope you have more of theses videos coming soon.

The Fallen Franchise of the Orlando Magic.... 2 Eastern Conference Titles - 1995 to 2009 Became the NBA's forgotten squad - Endless Rebuilding - No chance of an NBA Championship but this team deserves at least one title - Unbelievably Sad & Heartbreaking.

Secret Base… Collapse is by far the BEST docu-series on EARTH. And you all did my favorite team of all time, the Shaq and Penny Magic and you EXCEEDED expectations! Great job!

Thanks Seth and Secret Base team for another masterpiece

The Bulls with Jordan lost in 1995 to the Magic but no one wants to talk about it or give the Magic any credit for the win whatsoever.

and then Phoenix Suns extended Penny & GHill's career. two of my favorite players that was the biggest "what if" in my book.

Penny's injury and downfall broke my heart. Loved watching him as a kid

I have been asking for this specific collapse since y’all introduced the series concept, I love you guys’ content.

Beautifully done. Wish small markets could keep their cores together more than they can in any sport.

This deserves a part 2.

Great vid. Also I believe it's finally appropriate to create Rewinders about the NBA Bubble. Moments like Luka's game winner vs the Clippers, Jimmy Butler's finals performance and many more.

YES, this series is back! Pretty gnarly for a franchise with two Finals appearances to have two Collapse videos after those championship runs.

I have missed this series, thank you for bringing it back.

1990s Magic was a fun team! The duo of Shaq and Penny was a very strong and cool duo. Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott were great players.

If only The Front office gave Shaq that contract, What if Nick Anderson makes those free throws, what if Penny never got injured. Penny is My favorite Point guard of all time sad to see how short lived these Magic teams were

do a collapse on the 2016 Atlanta falcons and the San Antonio spurs

And speaking of Tim Duncan and the Spurs, I think it's about time to do a Collapse episode on the 2013-14 Spurs.

Seth has to narrate every secret base video. Others dont have the charisma like he does

I can't say that I remember anything from the mid-90's Magic, but I do remember how much fun it was to watch that 2009 team, and I remember there being a crazy atmosphere in their home arena during that playoff run. It's a shame they haven't been able to maintain success, because those fans DO show up in large quantities when the team is good.

There are now multiple Magic collapses and multiple Magic need histories. Please make a playlist for each team like this! You might also want to include times a team is on the wrong end of a Rewinder.

This episode was especially close to me. I was a youngster just started watching the NBA when the started to get good with Shaq. I lived through each and every step of that collapse that you mentioned.

That Magic-Finals teams with Shaq and Penny turned me into a 🏀fan and in holidays I spent nights in front of the TV at my grandparents in Europe.

That was a fun time in the NBA.. I remember all these players

Still blows my mind the Magic fumbled Tim Duncan because of Doc not letting wives on the team plane. Who knows if Hill stays healthy in that timeline, but a prime Duncan and T-Mac combo would've been incredible.

Its sad what happened to the Magic after Shaq left and to the franchise as a whole. Would love to see a collapse video of the 1996 Sonics and the 2008 Celtics.

Dam this is just sad. The magic of the 90s and early 2000s gotta be the most interesting “what ifs” ever. If Shaq never left, if Penny was healthy, if Duncan ended up in Orlando, if Grant Hill was healthy. Great video

excellent video. I loved those mid 90s magic teams. peak Penny was so fun.

Love this video! Would love to collapse videos on the 90s Sixers, post big three Celtics, Cavs post 85 Chicago Bears, post Walsh/Seifert 49ers, post Elway Broncos to name a few but LOVED this Episode, Fellas!

If you want to do an interesting collapses and I'm from Houston, the 2019 Houston Texans and 2018 Houston Rockets would be great choice. I would also like and dread the 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks collapse, because I am a fan of that team and they won the World Series when I was born.

Secret Base.. GOATS 💯 LEGENDS 💯 ICONS 💯 those are the words I can think of to accurately describe how dope you guys are for putting out content like this.. much appreciated 🙏🏾

The Shaq and Penny duo was so great. It sucks Penny got injured

Sports teams didn't know about how to treat injuries back then. Basically, their logic was to try to get guys to fight through potentially serious injuries, and the Magic did this with Hardaway. Not only that, but being stupid enough not to go all in with Shaq, sealed their fate.

I was a hardcore Charlotte Hornets fan but that Magic team i loved. Really because of Penny more then anything. What a shame he got injured.

The 30 for 30 for this story AND the Grantland Oral History are both really good at covering this story. Nice to see Secret Base cover it, too. Tragic story.

God damn why does channel always go for my throat? The shoe throw from the gators, “the catch” with the cubs, and don’t forget their video about the Dwight Howard Magic

Thank you for this, die hard Magic fan. Hoping for them to win chip before the Clippers.

Damn secret place y'all really Savage I just realized and I probably should have realized it because I've been a resident in Orlando for almost a decade, but you guys have two episodes dedicated on the Orlando magic collapsing alone. As lucky as the franchise can be it's also one of the most unlucky. History definitely repeated itself

We need a 08 celtics vid, I think it would be an interesting watch. The ray decision and how the team reacted, how the celtics also tried to trade him. Also the trade with the nets in the end. I think it could be good!

The Orlando Magic in the Shaq, Penny, and Brian Hill era between 1994 and 1996 saw them gave up when they had a heartbreaking moment that led them being eliminated from the playoffs in a sweep.

My favorite version of Shaq a big that was quick and definitely made an impact immediately

I’m a simple man I see a collapse video and I click right away

Low balling prime Shaq when he’s set to become a free agent is one of the dumbest moves in history.

Doc rivers fumbling the signing of Duncan in 2000 to form a big 3 with TMac and Grant hill, is one of the biggest ifs in that franchise.

I had the ultimate quintessential collapse

The "What if" Orlando Magic dynasty that never happend is one of the most interesting theories in NBA history IMO. The Magic could have made that happend and it was not at all to far off the mark. BUT as we all know already the loss of Shaquille O'neal, injuries to Penny Hardaway and Anderson's dropp and more just shot the franchise in the foot(s). The Magic was SO CLOSE to take over the crown after the Chicago Bulls dynasty had ended due to aging, but if a team can't hold up togheter, stay focus & dedicated like MJ's Bulls did in the late 80's to develop and evolve, then you regardless of potential tallent will never reach that top. The Magic really looked like the next Bulls dynasty for a couple of years. IMO, if I could have decided in any way, I would have traded the Lakers dynasty for a Magic dynasty!

The return of Collapse! I missed it so much I actually found a channel who basically ripped off your format 😂 fun to see some other stories be told but obviously their videos don’t hold a candle to the OG

Thank you Secret Base.. really enjoyed this one ⭐️

I always thought that the Magic had the all-time worst medical staff in the NBA. The amount of players who got injured while plating for them is mind-blowing (Penny, Shaq, Seikaly, Hill, McGrady). On the other hand, the Phoenix Suns always managed to extend players' careers with top-notch physicians.

Good things are coming to the people at Secret Base. You guys are all gonna be millionaires making videos for millions of people very soon. Keep it up.

Well this one covers the 1990s Orlando Magic of Shaq and Penny with the other Collapse video about the Magic centered around Dwight Howard. This Magic could've been the future of the league until Shaq left and Penny's career got cutshort by injuries but they were still a great but also one of the biggest what-ifs in NBA history.

I miss the days when we could see you guys faces when you were doing these vids. Still love them though and will continue to do so!

I always know that on the weekends I get to watch the best sports channel tell great stories masterfully, absolutely phenomenal, have u guys ever thought of doing one on the 90s maple leafs? Back to back game 7 conference finals with some absolute legends on their teams, including the carry fisher incident? Hell of a story

I never realised how many great players were at Orlando. I forgot Hill was there or a young Ben Wallace. Such talent walked in and out! I really feel for T Mac though. I feel like he was at his best in the league with Kobe for a few years and was doing most of it. Shame Hill was out.

Shawn Kemp looked absolutely miserable in that pic of him holding up the Magic jersey! 😂😂☠️

As a Magic fan, this stung. The fact that we could have easily had a starting lineup that featured Ben Wallace, Duncan, Hill and McGrady keeps me up at night. We would have been in the finals for 7 years straight

This was my favorite team growing up. Shaq left. Jordan retired. I was pissed at basketball

What a good point about needing luck! This team made me fall in love with basketball even more than those Bulls teams! Great job on this video and everything else you all do 🏀

Man so crazy that horry is seen like that from other fan bases. I’m a laker fan so I’ve never seen him in anything but a positive light. I will never forget watching that shot at the buzzard.

The magic has been my favorite team since 1990 you did a great job thank you

I'd love to see a video on the collapse of the Harden lead Rockets, since they were seen as a team that can beat the Warriors but never could.

As a bulls fan they were exciting to watch its sad had all this happened I always wanted the magic to succeed but the 30 for 30 series shows slot and if penny never got hurt and nick Anderson made the free throws who knows

This is my favorite channel for sports related content hands down. Thank you so much for this video. Tmac is my favorite player ever so watching him suffer so many losses those years despite playing like the best player in the world at that time. Great video

During the 99 lockout season they were the 1 seed in the Eastern conference until a long break in the weird schedule threw off their rhythm in the final stretch going into the playoffs hence the 1st round loss to the sixers

I love these collapse videos. I see a Washington nationals one coming soon to this channel. Or even a Chicago Cubs one as well

How a franchise had Shaq, Penny, T-Mac, Hill, Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billups, and Dwight Howard over a 15 year span, resulting in just 2 final appearances is disappointing

Love this. Done exceptionally well! Great job.

We need more of these. Make one on the Harden-Capela-D'Antoni Houston Rockets or, if things were to become genuinely interesting, a Collapse on the downfall of the San Antonio Spurs or even the Seattle SuperSonics.