Full Episode: • Mafia Associate On Sur... Former Mob Bookie, David "Chicky" Cecchetelli, talks about way the Mob deals with infidelity and how to tell.
LOL simply because they have a huge pool of peeps in their pocket compared to a local dive bar for options in the past. Thats all it is. Is it right? I dunno its just magnified the existing situation of peeps and sex.
Imagine being a member of the fucking Mafia, sleeping with the boss’s wife, GETTING OFF WITH A FUCKING WARNING… and then doing it again anyway. Never mind the lack of common decency. That’s a Darwin Award.
It was probably not the boss who warned him. Could have been someone else who was close to them that knew and told the guy to stop because he will get caught. Or maybe the boss caught him hanging around the cookie jar and seen crumbs on the counter but couldn't prove he did had any.
The only difference is he did you a favor. If it wasn't him who revealed the backdoor was unlocked then someone else will exploit it eventually. It's better to find out sooner or later than waste years with someone ignorant to the fact it was all a waste of time. The women is the gate keeper. You don't blame the man for passing through the open gate with the sleeping guard. You fire the guard and be glad it happened now and wasn't worse years down the road with kids or more kids, more time wasted, and more money. Don't blame the dog blame the owner. She owns her box.
@@angelmarauder5647 you should also be able to tell. A ring, men's coats, boots by the door, and various items around the house. You can bet she's married when you walk in and there's a size 13 Red Wing by the door...
@@angelmarauder5647 Sleazy or not, the wife would be the one at fault in that scenario. If you leave meat out in the open, it'll attract flies. You can hardly blame the flies.
Old school manners were designed to prevent the temptation from occurring: not entering a man’s house when he isn’t home is good manners, and it prevents even rumors from starting.
And nowadays people gaslight themselves about saying "what's wrong with a man just visiting a women's house" people don't have self respect and lack proper common sense.
Rumors can cause hella damage to a relationship and both parties professional life. I mean are you going to promote someone that you will need to depend on when you know they are about to go through a dramatic divorce? Many a small business has folded over that, hell even major brand names have had their bottom line kneekapped by a distracted employee who was off of their game due to divorce.
I remember hearing a story from a guy i knew who was in a MCC, and he said if he went to another members house and the guy wasn't there and the wife was to invite him in, he'd give two answer's. a no thank you i'll come back later, or he'd wait outside on the front porch for the guy.. And he told me one time he waited outside for a couple hours for this guy to come home. And when the guy showed up, and asked him what he was doing outside, and why he didn't just wait for him inside the house, he explained it like, this is your house, your wife is inside, and i don't want to give you any idea's that i'm messing around with your wife. And the guy simply said thank you
You can't be a Christian and a criminal, once a criminal always a criminal. That's like saying, As both a tall guy and a short guy........Also being a "Christian" isn't some achievement like an Eagle Scout or something, freakin religious nutjobs think they're special.
How many bosses, 75 years olds dudes, and 30 year old girls are in the USA? those are nonspecific details. dates , locations, names, etc are specific details
Macaroni or kitty, he's not turning down neither especially when it's from the same source....Franky Knuckles ain't coming home til 2030 he won't find out.
So i would have failed the changing of the tire test because i was taught to not talk/brag/seek a reward for helping people in need, but the way he's explaining it i can see how it looks shady. Wow. So i wonder how many people i pissed off by doing a different version of honor. Very insightful
Yeah, I was raised the same way. However, I would think that if you're involved with that particular organization, you probably inherently know to let a guy know that you helped his wife out, because he may take it wrong if you don't. That has more to do with survival, than manners, I guess.
Same. As well as in regular society most guys aren't going to be turbo-paranoid that their friends/business associates are trying to bang their wives. It happens, but not to the point where you're going to get your wife involved in an elaborate test of something you think might indicate that a dude would be inclined to.
What you do and say needs to be an open book when done in front of open doors. What you do behind closed doors stays quiet. I think that’s what he is getting at.
My dad taught me this and this is how I am and my friends are with me. If the husband/boyfriend isn’t home I won’t go in. I’ll go back when he is home and they do the same with me. Just a respect thing. Don’t allow yourself to get into trouble!
You and your friends are weirdly respectful, if it’s someone you’ve known forever and has your back no matter what, there shouldn’t even be a doubt. Obviously I’m not gonna spend the day with someone’s girl but if I show up and she offers me coffee while we wait for our boy, it’d be super weird to just wait outside, either of them wouldn’t let me do that. Maybe we’ve known each other long enough but I wouldn’t even bat an eye if it’s a vetted friend I love and deeply trust, which is all I keep around in my tight circle
@@joshguy2367 Its not respect at that point though, they literally don't trust their wives/girlfriends or themselves or even each other. Its like what you said, you aren't going to spend an entire day with them. Realistically speaking you got there early and its just going to be a few mins while you wait for him to return home and they will invite you in as that is what normal people do ( if its going to be hours sure come back later and I am sure they will say the same thing )... leaving you out in the potential cold, rain or even heat is far more weird and disrespectful if its not a long thing. These guys are insecure af and don't even trust their own wives... Let that sink in, they are with someone they don't even trust lmao. And it sounds like they don't really trust their friends either.
I’m best friends with the guys. Not their wives. Sorry if it doesn’t work for you but where I’m from that’s how it is. It works for us and we’ve been best friends for over 15 years.
@@HHnikitaHH I wouldn't really call them best friends at this point as you clearly don't trust them or your wife/gf or even their wives/gfs with each other or you. No one even said you need to be friends with the wives either, you are saying that. If your friend is not in and they invited you in its highly likely they will be back very soon ( of course not always and if its a lot longer then yes there is no point in being there ) and its not weird or wrong of them to invite you in, its the complete opposite of that... But because you are so insecure and clearly lack trust in their wives and yourself you wont enter the house as you think they will think you are cheating... Which means they don't trust you and that isn't a best friend lmao. You are the one thinking of that going in so that says a lot more about you than it does their wives.
You don't hit on anybody's girl... At that point you would be just validating her on her cheating behavior. See, it's not just a matter of loyalty, but also of fidelity to your own self and your own values.
One of my closest friends fu*ked another close friend's ex girlfriend. I was so disgusted by it I told him that he crossed the line and broke up a friendship over 15 years for a piece of pu*sy. I can't trust someone after that...
I remember being a teen and by to "see my guy about a thing" and he wasn't home from work yet ...but his wife was. She tried to get me to come in, sit down, have a beer etc 3 or 4x... And I kept my @$$ planted on the porch until he walked in his door. He knew what was up, I knew what was up, and he knew I was a good kid who respected my friends. Me and him had a great working relationship moving forward.
@@Zick-ThingS-Col LOL look at you thinking you're gonna find loyalty from a woman. It's not gonna happen. They're all like this. Best to just understand and treat them like the irresponsible children they want to be treated as. They don't like it, they can start acting like women before we stop treating them like the disposable holes they are. The resource to be collected that they are. I don't get mad at money for being disloyal to me just because someone else is holding some of it.
So right about social media… my relationship, or whatever it is, is the perfect example of it. My “lady” looked elsewhere and social media was part of it
He ain't saying he's a saint or trying to be self righteous. Just how it's handled. And he's definitely right about the how sexual stuff has changed a lot. Social media stuff all right too.
in jail ppl DIE over not being courteous and having ethics; it can be the smallest thing too! even some cartel guys said they seen others die over not shaking the bosses hand because the boss felt disrespected. in the real world most ppl just make a mental note or feel like they dont like someone so its actually better to learn from criminals cuz they die over those things and can break down why..
If a guy is horsing my wife I'm not going to do anything to the guy besides thank him for revealing my wife for who she really is and then divorce her. It's that simple.
True.. but if it's your family or people supposed to be close to you .. they should respect you enough to not be in your home with your wife when you aren't there
Any female is going to be subject to temptation, just like you are. If you leave guys alone with your wife your setting her up for failure. At the very least, your putting her in awkward, uncomfortable situations. It's not fair on her.
Hell, I thought that was just plain being respectful, if you run into someone you bring it up to your friend, and never be alone with another man's wife or girlfriend....even if nothing is going on.
Exactly and that goes for the work place for sure. Some would like to argue that having friends while in committed relationships are ok even with the opposite sex, I view a dude who is ok befriending my wife as someone who is disrespecting me directly.
These women and men now in days lost all morals. Women hanging out with men that are married drinking and vice versa. You would expect more from them from how they carry themselves Guess not it's just a front
Many men have gotten into trouble for doing a nice thing and another man thinking too much about it. If you told me a guy got shot because he helped another man's wife with something and when the guy told the husband he got mad instead of thanking him, I wouldn't be surprised. You never know how the other guy is going to react even to simple stuff like that, specially a guy you 100% know is a criminal so he is already at a higher paranoid state of mind than most people. That kid didn't need to mention what he did so he didn't.
Yeah plus it’s weird to be asking for thanks, basically over such a small thing. Like implying your boss owes you one because you fixed his wife’s tire.
@@bradkindley Except when you didn't ask the guy to do something and now he's asking for payment for something you didn't ask him to do. Something that now he feels he can hold over your head. "Let me do this 'nice thing' so now he owes me". If you don't think people do this kind of shit, you don't take self-defense seriously. Fine. But don't demand I be a victim too just to make you feel better about yourself. Some of us are resistant to manipulation. We see this shit all the time when someone "politely" opens the door for you but then takes issue with some microscopic part of how you thanked him or didnt thank him or whatever. People do this type of shit for power. I'm sorry you still think you live in a high-trust society. You don't.
@@screwgoogle4993 So, you come across your buddies wife in the side of the road with a flat tire, and you are just gonna leave her there? Sure wouldn't want you as a friend. Not talking about "society" or some random...the example is your buddies wife. My buddy at least owes me a beer and a thanks. If you are "friends" with losers and scammers, that is 100% on you dude. There are plenty of decent people in the world, but they do tend to stick with other decent people. Maybe you aren't decent enough to know these kinds of people. I am truly sorry for you. Keep working on yourself and maybe you too can have a real friend one day.
@@screwgoogle4993 wtf u on about??? "self-defence" You are defending yourself from what? The feeling of owning someone for something as innocuous as having the door held open for you? That's internal bro.
It's wild to me that literal mafia members have better morals than normal people; I used to live next to a Hell's Angel with my ex fiancee, the dude made sure I knew when some people short cutted through my yard and that he made sure they wouldn't do it again for me and my girl. I've NEVER had a bad experience with people tied to organized crime, show them respect and stay on their good side and you have nothing to worry about; I've had many MANY more bad experiences with the average joe on the street.
Turns out the "organized" part of organized crime is really crucial. They do have a code. It's a brutal code, but it's there. Mobsters know how they're supposed to behave
I had the same experience as a missionary in New Zealand. Street punks would give us problems, but the hardcore gangs? They actually would look out for us. They’d even get us food.
@@deltacharlieecho4732 I never said it was a benefit of any type. I grew up around them. Rode bicycles down the same street their clubhouse is still on to this day and I’m 62, I have family members who are members, friends I grew up with members. But i personally live in a nice town village 30 minutes away.
I've helped a lot of wives/girlfriends/sisters/etc without mentioning it to their guys because I felt that mentioning it would look like I was looking for some kind of "reimbursement".
Was thinking the same thing. Especially if the guy is a mafia boss. Seems like it would be perceived as trying to get the boss's gratitude/favor. The wife likely already told the boss, so if he wants to bring it up, he can.
That's why you don't frame it that way. Just like "Hey, just to let you know, but I helped [lady's name] out the other day with a flat tire. I don't want anything in return, just wanna let you know on the up-and-up it was a thing in case she didn't tell you." Just for the sake of transparency and nobody gets the wrong idea. I think anybody would understand that.
I'll tell ya a secret, social media didn't change anything. People just got caught easier through it. Nothing has changed in the world everyone has always done everything going on now in the past.
No, there's been a shift. With social media, now you can have people all over the world justify your piss poor decisions, encourage you in your detrimental behavior, and generally be a bad influence. It makes the wisdom of those close to you easier to ignore.
in general yeah, but I'm not trying to refuse peoples' hospitality. I'm not trying to hang out, but I'll accept hospitality. Gentlemen are GENTLE and aren't a threat.
na, they would be too overly-grateful for it -- it's expected. they are more concerned potentially keeping secrets between each other, even seemingly innocuous ones.
its a bad situation,. if you help a wife and go up to the husbnand it can see as bad since you are just using the wife to get to the guy, if youdon't go up you want the wifer, if the husband doesnt go up to you its bad :D bro next time better just move on and let the wife handle her shit
@@joshsheler7036@joshsheler7036 it would be 100%. I'm saying it's expected to fix the tire and tell the guy -- it it's nothing special to help the community in need, double over for one of them or their family.
The reason the guy never mentioned that he helped your wife is 1. He's scared of you. 2. He doesn't want you to think you owe him. 3. You get more suspicious if he mentions that he was near your wife without you being there.
No the reason he never brought it up is because he’s a snake. No real friend would be scared of you because you helped out their wife lmao. No real one would except a favour back either it’s just standard to help your brothers out, excepting nothing in return. You’re just describing fake people
It seems insane to me that you would articulate that no one would ever want ..... Even though the guy spells out rules to stop temptation.... If you can imagine it some person has done it
@@KahzulaFeeling the need to mention the fact you did the right thing tells me you really weren't in it to do the right thing, but rather doing it only to brag about it later. I'd have to say friend B assumed friend A already heard what happened and thought nothing more needed to be said on the matter.
There's no friendships here. This is all business. We get along to conduct business but we're not really friends. If you're a stand up guy, we get along. The situation here is, 1. If your not scared of me, scared of what I would do if you betrayed me, then how can I trust you. 2. I don't want to owe anyone anything. Everybody owes somebody at one time or another, but if I feel that I owe you every time I see you, eventually it's gonna end bad. Call your marker so we can clear it up and we can work together. 3. If you're not suspicious then you're complacent. That's a good way to disappear
@@simpleplan100687 wtf are you smoking I want some? Did you not watch the video.. has the point already gone over your head. Telling someone you helped their wife isn’t bragging about it man. Not telling him is more sketchy but also it might not be that deep. Don’t forget the life these guys lived is nothing like yours.
I agree with all of it except the very first example. You are fixing a tire on the side of the road. you aren't going into a house or whatever. I think if you mention it to the husband it's like you're looking for praise. Worst yet, maybe insinuating that he isn't doing enough for his family. As if the tire should never have gone flat if he kept the car properly maintained. No, do a good deed and shut up about it after. BUT, if the guy brings it up or asks directly about that time and place, then don't go hiding anything either.
If i was the guy that helped her i wouldn’t feel the need to tell him, id be helping cause it is a friend and thats what you should do. But the wife should tell him and he should let the helper know he knows he helped
Perhaps but what if she was there doing something she wasn’t supposed to he would be able to tell that when his “friend” told him he helped her and she said nothing. It can work either way
The one thing I'll say is that the guy who fixed his wife's car and doesn't mention it may avoid mentioning it because he assumes that the wife already told him and he doesn't want to bring it up because it would seem as if he was trying to suck up to the boss. "Oh, I helped you wife. Aren't I great?" He could be leaving it to the boss to bring it up or not bring it up.
Facts. Any friend who tries to be friends with your girl ain’t your friend anymore. Drop him, he stands for nothing. Men and women can’t be friends. There will always be one side of the equation trying to balance the other out
LOL sounds like you had a bad experience or are around degens. Men and women are definitely friends in many cases, sorry you can't experience that without issues xD
@@OArchivesX never had an issue with homies doing anything like that. just know how a dude mind works. I get being cordial and what not at parties but as far as a homie going out to lunch with my girl? nope. complicates things for no reason. Instincts are instincts.
Men can absolutely be friends with women. It just looks different. Now if my guy friend is TRYING to be friends with the wife, that is weird. If they become friends organically over shared interests, cool, but again, it looks very different than a guy friendship, and the boundaries are different. The dudes I know keep a lot of space, are transparent, and are basically family friends. It really helps to be in a crowd of holy believers who believe intimacy is between man and wife.
Even thinking defensively, you would not want to be in the boss's house with his wife without him being there because even if you were not doing anything ANYBODY can make it seem like you were !
@@windtalker4191 All it shows is an utter lack of confidence in both your friend and your wife. That level of distrust says nothing about them. It says everything about you.
@@windtalker4191 The guy who fixed his wife's car and doesn't mention it may avoid mentioning it because he assumes that the wife already told him and he doesn't want to bring it up because it would seem as if he was trying to win the favor/gain the gratitude of with the boss. "Oh, I helped you wife. Aren't I great?" He could be leaving it to the boss to bring it up if he decides it's worth a "thank you," and if not, he just leaves it be.
I probably wouldn't even stop and fix the tire. I'd just drive by and pretend I didn't see her. Don't even put yourself in that situation. Some guys wouldn't see that as a kind gesture
Funny this made me flashback to helping an ex boyfriend move and when he took one of several trips to the new location his brother showed up and I insisted on waiting outside until my ex returned. Do not put yourself in a situation where "why were you two alone together?" can be a valid concern or insecurity which then leads to unnecessary drama.😊
Her x boyfriends brother didn't go inside because when her x boyfriend shows up he would for some reason assume his x girlfriend was hooking up with his brother ..... Yah it's a dumb story
Hmm, I'd get it if it were a random guy friend maybe, but his brother? A bit sad if his mind instantly jumps to "My brother helped my girlfriend move? They must be sleeping with each other!" That's one scumbag brother in that case. I guess those exist, but I'd like to think they're so common that it's a regular concern.
this is fucking stupid lmao, reading these comments has taught me just how insecure people can be. He wouldn't go in the same room as you as he would think that would raise suspicion... Why the fuck are you even with each other if you have no trust at all. And man he must really hate his brother lmao.
I guess when you're committing all these crimes, your paranoia levels are up to a million, which would make sense why you couldn't trust anyone including you own wife. Sad life to live.
That was actually code gor us boys. If your man aint home, Ill come back later. You never got caught seen with snother mans woman. Not even in public. This aint about your boys insecurities. This is about sheer respect. If you care about your boy, youll do him the respect. End of story.
I remember when I was 18 (nieve) and a friend invited me over. I get there and he isn’t there yet. I called him and asked where he was and he said a half hour out but to go inside. I did because it was cold. His wife was cool at 1st, then she asked to come to the kitchen while I was waiting in the living room. She had stood at the door way with a nighty on that she wasn’t wearing when she answered the door. I immediately got up and left. I never told my friend because I didn’t think that he would’ve believed me. Needless to say I never went there again. Lessened learned.
The better question is why's your wife inviting men into your house? Like why is it the guy who's the sole accountable party when she's LITERALLY inviting him INSIDE?
There are many reasons a woman would invite her husbands friends inside the house. 1. Weather outside 2. She’s being courteous to her husband’s colleague’s and friends. 3. She may be a little naive. Just because you’re invited in doesn’t always mean she’s interested in your braciola!
Just showed my girl this. Literally just told her men think with their under armor. Not their brain, and it’s going to cost their life. They’ll learn the hard way…
Great advice, I had a neighbor that would go talk to my man every time he took the trash out until I called her out on it, she would also talk to my mom and never mention it, people have weird intentions, I also avoid social media.
I always respected this about Italians. I've had married women hint at wanting my phone number. I'm like what do you need my phone number for? I have had married women of my friends sending my private messages on Facebook...I've ignored the messages for years. I finally opened one after like 2-3 years and there was like 3 messages just basically trying to start a conversation. I had one married woman try to contact me then called me from her husband's cell phone. I don't communicate with married women in private. Women been weaker since the Garden!!
That’s been a rule since back before the days of Gotti. You never go anywhere alone with a members wife or gf. You need to have a couple people there with you. Perceived intentions often have dire consequences.
The most important foundation of friendship between people is mutual respect and honesty. If you do not betray me, I will never betray you first. But if you betray me, I can only choose to leave. Life is short, and time is precious. What happened once, may won’t happen again; what happens a second time will keep happening again and again. Just move on and make new friends with others. There are plenty of good people on this planet!
Wild to think you have to be a truly stand up guy to be in the mob. Love to see it. A lot of the gang violence today is so messed up and nobody respects nobody anymore.
Man, this guy has so much integrity and character. He is a real friend if you have him for one. Guys like this are the ones that if you can fill up one hand with friends like this, you are a wealthy man. I was raised this way by my father. His friends had a code just like this, you never, ever touched a friend's wife. If they had a main girl outside of their marriage, she was off limits too. Those friends I met as a child and know the ones that time didn't take to this day. Gentlemen, have character and be somebody that is respectable. Draw people to you like that and you'll be a rich man, regardless of your income.
@@CCSI322 I don’t speak from a place of ignorance these people destroy everything they ever touched and worked for the devil nothing to glorify fuck the godfather movies
