How The Most Hated Player in Rust Lost Everything 

the way people describe this guy sounds no different than a average rust player

This is the first time I seen an actual documentary on a rust player. As toxic as he was, I think he came back pretty hard by doing things for the community.

If kinn wasnt a toxic manchild, i truly think his aproach to his server and community in constantly trying to get opinions on improvement and shit like that wouldve made him a goat in the rust community

Played affinity once with a 30 man group. Group next to us was roof camping (was a no roof camping rule at the time) us from water treatment tower. We shot back at them and Kinn appeared after about an hour and walled in our entire base and stacked them 4 storeys high. After about a minute he deleted our entire base. Apparently the group we were fighting were friends with Kinn. Never played the server again after that. Good riddance

KiNN was a very good server owner, would constantly take suggestions and add new things that the community wanted, i had the most fun on rust on affinty.

as a person that got banned on vital for no reason (i told neeko he's legless) we need affinity back

Insanely well produced video, glad to see you're keeping up the documentaries

as a rust player trough 3 years of playing affinity was the best and most "peacefull" server ive ever seen i have a lot of good memories and r.i.p to kinn and all staff members hope affinity somehow will show back

never really got into main scene rust but a group of my friends and i made a team for the initial launch of affinity servers and kinn flew around in vanish and talked to a lot of the groups. he asked questions on what he should add to the server and even flew our group to roams. he genuinely just seemed like a cool dude who just loved rust

Such a great time back in the day. Miss you Jack, keep making great vids.

PLEASE make more documentaries dude i just remembered my time in ib and was going insane holy shit this was awesome

I was still new to rust, and had a large clan living beside me, who helped show me the ropes and gave me my first weapon ever, a python. They eventually ended up getting raided and I ran over on repeat trying to stop them. The clan raiding them had around 5-6 players, my neighbors were 3, we couldn't defend. The big clan raided me next as punishment I guess, didn't really get anything. When I came back with rock watching them blow in they didn't kill me they just let me know you can't get in the way of a raid. I just watched as my jank base was blown into. They saw I really didn't have much, nor did I know how to build a proper base. They protected me and told me to reseal it, and that they don't wanna ruin the game for me so early on. The rust community is a strange one. I love it, I don't understand all the technical rules yet but I think people are willing to work with you if you're just patient and kind. After talking the clan gave me a few weapons, and I helped my neighboring clan rebuild. We all became semi friends until the end of the wipe 4 days later. I never got their discord and haven't played rust since. It's emotional and I'm not sure why.

Affinity was an absolutely amazing server and I do have to honestly say Kinn for the "most" part of at least being a server owner/runner, was great. But his attitude and all the other bits he's done completely condem him and still to this day he hasn't grown out of the childish personality and angry lash outs. I don't think FP did the best thing completely blacklisting his server, but I agree Kinn needed to basically be smacked down to reality in the end.

so cool to find a channel without a bunch of subs that’s still uploading. great content man, excited to see you grow

comparing doxxing and ddossing to cheating in a video game is CRAZY

This man is a MENACE to the rust scene and I FUCKING LOVE IT

As a rust clan owner that used to be big on affinity fridays ive talked to kinn a lot of times for several reasons and this was all before the whole blacklisting thing and i could really sense his change in mood after the blacklisting he started to develop a drinking problem after the blacklist but got it back together. Just wanted to put that out there hes a very nice guy in a 1 on 1 call but imagine what it does to someone when you do repetitive annoying work with little kids on the most toxic game on the planet and you are trying to have a professional server.

As immature as Kinn was, he brought good things to the main scene of Rust. Though he did bring good things, it does not out weigh his childish, and malicious behavior.

As someone who isn't in the Rust scene I have no bias for or against any of these parties, Facepunch overstepped their boundaries by shutting down Kinn's own server. It's one thing if this behavior was on the official servers but it's not and Facepunch is definitely in the wrong.

watched this all the way through and still didn't even notice this was from a youtuber with under 1000 subscribers instead of a big youtuber, great job bro

Honestly, Kinn was a real piece of shit - but it doesn't seem right that FP blacklisted his server permanently (by blocking the IP), if people want to play on a piece of shit server with him it's their choice since they bought the game. This would be like if Minecraft permanently blocked 2B2T (which has had FAR worse controversies, involving real crime that has resulted in people going to prison). Frankly, seems like FP just got butthurt that Kinn defied them and wanted to make an example, blocking him from the server list was understandable as a server like that would negatively affect FP's reputation, but the permanent IP blacklist is just overkill and stupid. If FP wouldn't have done that Kinn would've kept playing, slowly got bored and probably not caused any serious problems to anyone, now they created someone who has a vendetta, and someone with a vendetta can very quickly become dangerous and unstoppable. 10/10 great video, would watch again!

Rust players supporting a manchild is really not surprising at all

As someone who lived through all of this I am so happy that you made this. ~Yoster

I'm sorry if mojang allowed 2b2t to still exist there's no need for face punch to ban his server

This is insane quality keep up the work!

As a past Affinity staff member, I feel KiNN always had a good heart despite his actions.

I haven't touched games in years, although I recall playing in the same server as DOT, ZZZ, 5K, Ich Bin and a few notable others. My clan "tL" (Formerly OYL), got the rest of the main clans on the server to agree to a strict rule of only having 8-man roams, this lasted for months and was a generally respected rule... except for DOT. They were the only group that could not respect every other clan's agreements, my only memories of DOT are of negativity and immaturity. I just stumbled upon this video and it reminded me of all those times playing Rust. Don't know if anyone will see this, hopefully, everyone I played with and against over the years has grown to live fulfilling lives, I only wish the best for y'all. My name was ricky, founder of tL. P.S. If anyone recalls TC Wars, I started that, but unfortunately, I was immature at the time and burned some bridges, and Navyblue (I think that was his name?) took over. Is TC Wars still a thing anymore? I believe Jack Shepard was there at the beginning as well, we had some calls. Anyways, it was fun, I have touched video games in a while just nice to reminisce, and would be cool if anyone in this comment section recognized me haha! Cheers!

Bro I watched and Played rust for about 6 Years now and I'v never heard of this dude

Affinity was the move

Long live Affinity, FP was so wrong in blacklisting the server. As much as people hate him, Kinn changed the main scene, the community, and lots of other things. He'll never admit it again, but to have the game you've played for so long, loved, and probably grew up on, blow up in his face like it did, has gotta hurt. As fucked up in the head as Kinn might be from rust, dude is human.

As someone who use to be in .dot I can tell you without a doubt in my mind that Kinn was not playing a character lol. He, like many of us, got way too attached to the game and when his ego gets hurt he gets salty.

No matter how you put it, Kinn always had represented the average rust clan member, while others may not act or do things Kinn did, that does not mean they have no intentions to do so and most put up an act to seem better.

Affinity staff also brought out the old recoil server Legacy main, when neeko found out he straight away snitched to facepunch as he saw all the old clans were coming back to play and alot of current vital groups werent playing because of it

was Kinn just misunderstood?

amazing vid as a kinda new (currently in hiatus clan member) in vital never knew this story. keep up the great story focused videos

I remember when I was trying to be an admin for rusticated servers that I might have to run into some people like kinn. Those admins seemed to have known this stuff pretty well as I believe he was permanently banned on those servers on top of the current list.

holy shit jack is still alive and dropping content

I remember when all of this happened, was a glorious time.

hes got the mindset of a grinder and i respect that

Very well editied and visual clips.

Kinn was like "You got yourself a villain, just because you want one" type of guy, you guys will never knew about him, until u meet him directly.

He wasn’t the villain we wanted but it was the villain we needed

well made video nice to see the old main scene get some attention

This video brought back so many good and bad memories, Throughtout my time playing affinity since it was basically released, I feel as he did the best to strive to make his server more enjoyable and perform better and yes this vid did sum up the bad things and good things and I feel as you either got to hate him or love him but he provided a fun environment to play on even if it did get bad sometimes.

most servers like affinity now use all of the clan "activities" he created. he was the stereotype rust clan leader that made a plethora of mistakes that built up.

One of the Rust server owners who helped me get to know the Rust community as a designer was KiNN. ♥

playing with this guy 4 years ago was fun sad to see him go

Bro your videos are top tier, keep up to the amazing work!

HOW IN TARNATION IS THIS SO SMALL i was watching this thinking its some kinda 500k rust yt documenter but NAH ITS JS SOME GUY MAKING GOLD CONTENT goodluck in yo endeavors, kinda content from someone like blooprint ngl

iv always felt bad for kids who think Rust is a competitive game

Dude your content is unmatched I loved this game when I downloaded it in 2019 love hearing the history behind it

i cant help but admire his motivation he gets shit done fp to him

only 6k subs!? that is criminal you need way more attention quality content mate keep it up

Kinn Is The Best Server Owner Out Of Neeko And Louis

Love the RuneScape music in the background in the beginning

I think this shows how humans actually are. There are no absolutes as in someone who is 100% a good person or the opposite. We're just a person with many facets to our traits. Looks like Kinn can show compassion and willingness to help the community, but you cannot deny that his toxic, ddos, doxing actions can't really be justified either

The guy really lost it, i remember the podcast when he completely just lost his marbles and declared he was selling cheats. Good/bad times

kinn was one of the most genuine server owners, the reason he got so angry is because he actually CARED about his servers and the people playing them, EVERY OTHER SERVER only cares about the money, kinn genuinely cared about the game and his community

I always look forward to your videos, because they are interesting and keep me up to speed with gaming and the endings of your videos with the Zelda theme always makes me feel nostalgic

kinn was super immature at the beginning but you could see significant improvement over the years and when he owned his own rust server most of the (concerning) toxic behavior was gone, he did great things for the rust scene and his servers shouldnt have been banned

giving a bunch of racist homophobic kids money is still evil. He built and encouraged a community that attacked people and used slurs. If your average Rust clan player is a racist homophobic then change is needed.

I'm sure his toxicity and playstyle were something Facepunch didnt like but you cant ban someone and their community for just playing thebway they want to. And they were on their own server. Punishment was a bit too harsh.

The way he rage screams on "ill sell cheats" show how childish he is.

"Was he a bad guy?" Yes. His response to being told that he's not wanted was to lash out and try to destroy the game for other people. If everything described in this video is accurate, he's actually pretty awful. Even if he considers the things he was doing an "act" that still shows that he's willing to do awful things to people for the sake of entertaining his personal group.

Ehhh, I don’t care about this guy, never heard of him before, but for some reason my brain rambled through the thoughts below, hope it’s at least interesting: Griefing and being toxic in Rust is just part of the game… AS LONG AS IT STAYS IN GAME. The moment it involves cheats, threats, harassment outside of the game and worse, it’s no longer a game. And when it’s no longer a game, it’s no longer fun. Cheats are stuff outside the game you use for an unfair advantage in the game, so that falls under “crossing the line” as I described above. If Facepunch built in cheats into their game that would be one thing, but they don’t, so cheats are not a part of Rust and do not make the game fun if someone uses them. If Kinn had kept his toxic arse ONLY to in-game toxicity, he’d still be around and having fun, and Affinity wouldn’t have been taken down. Kinn shot himself in the foot for having his IRL toxicity get in the way of the good things he did and could have done for the community. By bringing outside drama into Rust, it was no longer fun, and when he got shut down for ruining the game for everyone and having Affinity his legacy similarly ruined, he just kept on raging and spewing toxic hatred. Having no filter isn’t a problem, as long as everyone expects there to be no filter. In a game space, you can set up rules like that, so only people looking for that experience can get it. If special snowflakes who can’t handle toxicity stumble into Affinity, for example, they only have themselves to blame for being upset at the toxicity on the server… AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T BLEED OVER INTO IRL SHITE. The moment that line is crossed into IRL, it’s no longer a game, and shit gets real.

If only Kinn chilled the f out once he got the servers running and kept his admins in check... You can't expect a game dev to let toxicity and profanities running rampant, it's bad for business...

Its crazy to think that a block game like Minecraft can have a purely anarchy server like 2b2t with no rules but in the 17+ game of Rust with full nudity and hemp plants and the ability to voice chat and do big boy things, Rust doesnt have remotely anything close to that type of freedom.

Pretty cringe they blacklisted his server, but it’s even more cringe to “gather evidence” to whine to the developer. Just don’t play on his server like what’s the issue lmao

Heres a tip: Being good at anything does NOT give you the right to be an asshole. It's really very simple.

Y’all out here defending him and his servers like he didn’t literally dox people, cheat, and ddos servers 😭

Great script. Great storytelling. If I nothing about Rust this would still be entertaining. Conclusion was a bit lacking in my opinion but overall great video.

toxic personality does not equal to no good heart or bad leadership, there's no all bad or all good, they right about kinn's toxic behavior, the actions fp took is to protect game enviorment which is right, if affinity shut doors and form a closed up community and do right things with beef there's no way they aren't on top rn.

Bro is the embodiment of the nerd emoji holy

kinn was a genius. He gained power through what some may say was evil but he turned his anger and hatred into passion and glory and was the most memorable server owner the game has ever seen.

This video just showed me how truly bad the clan scene is in rust… I think im just going to stick on official

Bro kinn seems like the rustiest rust player ever. He’s the king

never thought i’d see a rust video essay

kinn was a legend

Gotta love these videos about someone I've never heard of, because I know my expectations are low to begin with

Kinn didnt do the greatest things in the first part of his career but then managed to pay it back and then got attacked i personally believe he is innocent and should be unbanned and forgiven

i love your SunnyV2 style content keep it up.

was a good video. loved how melow it was. but persnaly from me who was on the receaving end of kinn i never ever have and will see him as postive. he was a terable person who acted like a kid in a mans body. good to see him go and the comunity of rust becoming some what more postive instead of filled with toxic lumps of shit. part of the reason why fokes say the game is starting to die. cant wait to see any next videos.

free kinn!!!!!!!!

little late to your video jack but man that video of me deeping kinn legit launched the start of my youtube channel 🤣🤣 i do appreciate him never trying to get the video taken down

His toxic nature negated what good he did

I have 11k hours, playing since 2014, never heard of any of those players, same never heard of those servers

I think he was truly a good person but had some very bad anger issues that he should get checked out

What a wild story. Also a cautionary lesson against toxicity and cheating. The harm he did via toxic behavior, propagating cheats & launching DDOS attacks on other community members and servers outweighed any supposed good he did by a lot.

Kinn did nothing wrong

He is not a bad person, just toxic. My brother was staff on a pretty toxic minecraft pvp server in the early 2010s. I used to play cs with the owner. He reminds me a lot of Kinn. Also toxic but when one kid ddosed me and my brother the server owner took the kid off the internet for a week. Payed staff members when it wasn’t the norm. Gave people skins in cs. Overall his actions were good despite toxicity in game.

damn actually a good watch, good stuff

underrated fr great content.

great videos. excited to see your channel grow

When someone saying "no filter", all i hear is they dont want their hate speech shut down.

doxing and ddosing should be arrestable offences with prison charges but the other things about just not having a filter isnt really that bad

this was crazy holy you deserver more man

The RuneScape music is so nostalgic

AFFINITY was peak rust, the comp and moments were amazing

All I'm hearing is that Neeko is the villian here, which I can get behind.