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The Kings and Generals animated historical documentary series on Mongol History continues with a video explaining how the proto-Ukrainians in Halych and Volhynia defended against the Mongols. In our previous episode we discussed the European defence against the Mongol invasions ( • How the Europeans foug... ) and how the Mamluks ( • How the Mamluks Defend... ) and Chinese defended against them ( • How the Chinese Defend... ).
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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Год назад
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@Ukraine40
@Ukraine40 Год назад
The code doesn't work?
@zvelekva
@zvelekva Год назад
Proto Ukranians??? Really??? That's a thing??? Cos I thought at that time they called themselves Russians and were part of the Kievan Rus.XD In fact, didn't the defeat to the Mongols happen under the Rurik dynasty whose last known descendant/ruler was Feodor I of RUSSIA aka Fyodor I Ivanovich, a RUSSIAN czar during the 16th century??? You advertise yourself as a channel presenting historical accounts of significant military events... You're a joke and a blatant propagandist, shame on you. Unsubscribed.
@eksiarvamus
@eksiarvamus Год назад
Northern Estonia was under Danish rule, not Swedish rule.
@eksiarvamus
@eksiarvamus Год назад
Also parts of Estonia weren't under Novgorod rule back then.
@adamradziwill
@adamradziwill Год назад
FINLAY THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY ! STILL , WE LITWINS (GDL) who destroyed ulus of juchi
@adamcseri9548
@adamcseri9548 Год назад
It seemed rare for ruler siblings to support each other in history, but Danylo and Vasylko were doing great. Imagine being cut on the chest and not even realizing it 😐
@adamcseri9548
@adamcseri9548 Год назад
By Neo For the Algorithm and Tengri gods!:)
@aivarasmarcinkevicius
@aivarasmarcinkevicius Год назад
Also 14th century brother ruling duo of Grand Duchy of Lithuania Kęstutis (father of a Grand Duke of Lithuania Vytautas the Great) in the west and Algirdas (father of Jogaila, King of Poland) in the east.
@The818carlos
@The818carlos Год назад
"How did the Ruthenians defend against the Mongols?" "They didn't....." *loony toon ending theme music*
@josesoria2072
@josesoria2072 4 месяца назад
Why fight when the option of going with the flow lets them rule and survive? It is always wise to know where and when to fight
@_Hasek_
@_Hasek_ Год назад
8:14 You failed to admit that you said in several videos that the Mongols abandoned the campaign in the west because of Ogedei's death. You said the same thing with Möngke's death.
@adamshaar4960
@adamshaar4960 Год назад
Yeah, I really recommend you listen to Dan Carlin’s Wrath of the Khans. Some great stories in there that will help string alot of the mongol timeline together. Cheers!
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 Год назад
It's nice to see, for a change, a case where two brothers actually get along and find a way to carry on their father's legacy and lands without killing each other!
@MrCasper652
@MrCasper652 Год назад
Ivan Franko, great ukrainian writer, wrote a novel Zakhar Berkut exactly about these events. Translated into English by Theodosia Boresky. Highly recommended!
@j.d.snyder4466
@j.d.snyder4466 Год назад
Excellent recommendation: beautifully written and translated. Thank you for the title and author.
@leotka
@leotka Год назад
Recently new version of Zakhar Berkout was made by Hollywood. This is second movie based on Ivan Franko novel.
@kaissertsarist
@kaissertsarist 5 месяцев назад
Did Franko knew that hes ukrainian?
@Kili2807
@Kili2807 Год назад
Congratulations on 3 million subscribers! You are by far my favorite history channel. Keep up the great work.
@thomasvandevelde8157
@thomasvandevelde8157 Год назад
Thank you for this high-quality content, and the high-quality subtitles for us non-English speakers!
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 Год назад
Excellent video 📹 We wait for the next part.
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Год назад
Thank you for the video 👊🏻
@WorldArchivist
@WorldArchivist Год назад
Welp, we have another set of royal brothers, civil war time! Romanovich brothers: We don't do that here.
@S0ulinth3machin3
@S0ulinth3machin3 Год назад
The Battle of the Kolka River is covered but then how do the Battles of Legnica and Mohi not figure into the story?
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 Год назад
Outstanding video, guys. 👍
@cornelishenk4569
@cornelishenk4569 9 месяцев назад
It's crazy absolute mind blowing how much fighting took place back in those days. I think they were way more crafty in war and the sword and bow then we can even imagine. Just think of alllll these years of swordmanship.
@Tenno_Hirohito
@Tenno_Hirohito Год назад
Wow this was a complete blind spot for me i knew areas close to there but this is a whole new thing for me
@HAVOC-ll4gq
@HAVOC-ll4gq Год назад
I think they were called Kievan rus correct if im wrong
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
Even this is a term created by historians. They called themselves Rus'
@high4702
@high4702 Год назад
There was no Kyivan Rus, this name was created in 19th century. If you will read chronicles deeply you will see that the word “Rus” was mostly used like ethnonym but not like territory. Mostly by the word “Rus” people mean orthodox people. There was also term “роусьска земля” that means territory of over Dnipro lands, Volyn, Kyiv, Chernihiv, Pereyaslav and Smolensk. Also you will see that people wrote: “I am going from Novhorod to Rus” or “I am going from Suzdal to Rus”
@tremedar
@tremedar Год назад
I think the Kievan Rus were one part of what could be called proto-Ukrainian. Do NONE of you people criticizing this choice of words understand what proto means?
@paulclifton9488
@paulclifton9488 Год назад
Anyone who has played Total War Medieval 1 knows that the Ukrainians/Rus should have built the biggest fortresses possible in Volga-Bulgaria and the Chimera and filled it with a ton of Halberdiers with gold armour and gold weaponry (but not enough to be starved out in a few turns). If they did this the Mongols would have all stood in archery range of the walls and sent units one by one to hit the gates with swords whilst standing under pouring boiling oil until the swords eventually made the portcullis suddenly disappear. Then they would be all killed in turn by the Halberdiers. Just talking from personal experience.
@Mezzogiorno84
@Mezzogiorno84 Год назад
Great video again!
@hfar_in_the_sky
@hfar_in_the_sky Год назад
Pope: "If you convert to Catholicism, we'll provide you with support in the upcoming fight with the Mongols." Danylo: "I don't like it, but I need all the help I can get." Pope: "Oh, actually we can't provide you with anything right now but we'll give you this shiny new crow." Danylo: "...I'm converting back to Orthodoxy." Pope: "What?! You can't do that! We demand you convert back to Catholicism immediately!" Danylo: "What're you going to do? Have that army you promised to help fight the Mongols but all of a sudden can't muster come and attack me instead? Oh wait."
@theuniverse5173
@theuniverse5173 Год назад
OGs will remember when the video was called how Proto Ukrainians defended against the mongols
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
and not proto-Ukrainians? then who
@anarquia201
@anarquia201 Год назад
@@Kwerd Rus or Ruthenians
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@anarquia201 and who now lives on the territory of the Rus' kingdom and Rus'?
@anarquia201
@anarquia201 Год назад
@@Kwerd i suppose that makes the turks the true heirs of rome and Alexander
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@anarquia201 Ukrainians like Turks came to someone's land, or were they still natives?
@ganizhunis910
@ganizhunis910 Год назад
Curumsah successor was a different story. Yeah in south Kazakhstan many villages on his name. Boraldai, Burundai
@esotericD
@esotericD Год назад
They changed the thumbnail lmao😂😂
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ Год назад
Fantastic video! I can't wait for the next ones.
@MercShame
@MercShame Год назад
Everyone on here complaining about the name of the video apparently didnt actually watch the video
@user-wr2sk5nj7k
@user-wr2sk5nj7k Год назад
👍👍👍
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Год назад
I don't blame the two brothers one bit for bowing down to the Mongols. They would've been destroyed otherwise.
@arystanbeck914
@arystanbeck914 Год назад
There were no Cuman, they were Kipchak
@arystanbeck914
@arystanbeck914 Год назад
@@ChevyChase301 why do you call yourself Karl V. Do you really thing you are a king? Very mature
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 Год назад
Weren’t they Cossacks?
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
They came later in the times of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, the Crimean Khanate and the Tsardom of Russia. It's around 1450 to 1750
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 Год назад
Cossacks was Borodnik tribes in dnieper in that time.
@romanscerbak5167
@romanscerbak5167 Год назад
@@cosmiccosmonaut820 stop reading r*ssian history propaganda.
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Год назад
@@cosmiccosmonaut820 What growing Russian demographic in Ukraine? What are u even talking about. Cossacks were huge. During the Hetmanate every region of free Ukraine had Cossack battallions.
@shabeenahamed8987
@shabeenahamed8987 Год назад
Pls make a documentary on history of Goa
@TheGeneralGrievous19
@TheGeneralGrievous19 Год назад
In terms of content this is a great video. 👍 This period in this region of Europe is rarely explored in English-speaking world. But I think using the term Ukrainians is a little anachronistic here. It would also be really interesting to see you covering the struggle for Halych-Volhynia region between Poles, Lithuanians and Hungarians in 14th century and a kind of 'westernization' of the region in subsequent centuries because of Polish influence in Ruthenia. 🦁💙
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
and why anachronistic?
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@massive1979 like it or not, the concept of "nation" originated with the french revolution. Italians appeared in the 19th century, and it doesn't matter that earlier people were called Genoese, Milanese, and had the same religion, culture, tradition, language
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 Год назад
@@Kwerd We don't call the Holy Roman Empire Germany either. It just wasn' t that nation yet.
@andriilink5666
@andriilink5666 Год назад
@@massive1979 What did you mean by "existing as a nation"? Then who were those people living in Ruthenia? They were not ethical Poles, not ethical Lithuanians, not ethical Hungarians, they had their own language and culture, their own state and kings (who's sons married daughters of Hungarian kings). Then who exactly were they? Some aliens? As it is told in the video, the title Ruthenia was only a title of the region - not some ethnical group.
@tremedar
@tremedar Год назад
@@michimatsch5862 Which would be why calling the inhabitants of the HRE proto-Germans is accurate. They had always been called Germanic, but Germany, the state, no it didn't exist until the Franco-Prussian war came to a close and all the Germanic nations unified into one empire.
@romelnegut2005
@romelnegut2005 Год назад
Funny thing, I was playing the exact game that is the sponsor for this episode.
@aniruddhsathe2420
@aniruddhsathe2420 Год назад
Heyy can anyone help me like i have to see all the 770 videos of this channel so how should i proceed watch as uploaded from start to now or as playlist like all series
@Argacyan
@Argacyan Год назад
I saw the previous title & thumbnail
@Argacyan
@Argacyan Год назад
5:30 I noticed a sliver of lighter coloured green at Kerch on this map. What's the context for that?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Год назад
A mistake :-)
@robertgianakis763
@robertgianakis763 Год назад
I don’t think anyone was describing the people of that area as proto Ukrainians haha
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
when did the italians originate?
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@forrix6294 when did the italians originate?
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@forrix6294 I wonder if you are a hypocrite or a fool
@ukrainiansareproto-mesopat9235
I don't get this comment. That Ruthenians are a large part of Ukrainian ethnos is not disputed.
@stacey_1111rh
@stacey_1111rh Год назад
@@forrix6294 That would be your interpretation and that only. He’s been pretty objective with The Ukraine conflict considering what Russia has done and is still doing to their country. As they say go cope
@fulminatus6241
@fulminatus6241 Год назад
Proto-Ukrainians? Please tell me that's for the algorithm.
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
:/
@jcheck1107
@jcheck1107 Год назад
Who cares?
@AdamOwenBrowning
@AdamOwenBrowning Год назад
@@jcheck1107 History nerds and pro-Russian mouthbreathers really, really care lol. I can see the argument for both. People think it's "pandering". kinda funny cos "Fulminatus" here has directly *rewarded* the use of "proto-ukrainians" in the algorithm by even caring enough to comment, cos a comment is engagement
@joao.fenix1473
@joao.fenix1473 Год назад
@@AdamOwenBrowning IT IS PANDERING. it is obvious, the Rus were people from Novgorod, Moscow, Ryazan, Kiev and many others and like Italy divided in numerous polities but Undeboutly similar even if later they developed a separate identity
@raritica8409
@raritica8409 Год назад
for sure, but clickbait is hardly a new thing.
@neutralfellow9736
@neutralfellow9736 Год назад
superb stuffia
@DenysKorolchuk---Heller
@DenysKorolchuk---Heller Год назад
Very good historical video, like abd subscribe!
@Sviatoslav_The_Brave
@Sviatoslav_The_Brave Год назад
The oldest recorded mention of the word ukraina dates to the year 1187. In connection with the death of Volodymyr Hlibovych, the ruler of the Principality of Pereyaslavl which was Kyiv's southern shield against the Wild Fields, the Hypatian Codex says "Oukraina groaned for him", ѡ нем же Оукраина много постона (o nem že Oukraina mnogo postona).
@harleyquinn8202
@harleyquinn8202 Год назад
В «Сказании ο Довмонте» 3-й Псковской летописи 1271 года говорится о сёлах псковской «ѹкраины»
@Sviatoslav_The_Brave
@Sviatoslav_The_Brave Год назад
@@harleyquinn8202 Псков це земля України. Скоро всі наші історичні землі будуть деокуповані.
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@harleyquinn8202 как ты считаешь, Москва украинный город?
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@Truspio is not known for certain, there are many versions
@harleyquinn8202
@harleyquinn8202 Год назад
@@Kwerd Возможно когда Москва была на окраине Руси. В то время да.
@demetres6113
@demetres6113 Год назад
What is proto-ukrainia? You mean Kievan Rus...
@high4702
@high4702 Год назад
There was no Kyivan Rus, this name was created in 19th century. If you will read chronicles deeply you will see that the word “Rus” was mostly used like ethnonym but not like territory. Mostly by the word “Rus” people mean orthodox people. There was also term “роусьска земля” that means territory of over Dnipro lands, Volyn, Kyiv, Chernihiv, Pereyaslav and Smolensk. Also you will see that people wrote: “I am going from Novhorod to Rus” or “I am going from Suzdal to Rus”
@marieagheorghe8081
@marieagheorghe8081 Год назад
Kievan rus=proto ukraine,because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians. NO COMENTS
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@high4702 Smolensk was also not Rus'. "Izѧslavъ da darъі Rostyslavou что 7 ѿ Rouskъіy 8 zemlѣ and ѿ all ц҃рских​​ 9 zemlѣ. and 10 Rostyslavъ da darъі Izѧslavou что ѿ верхнихъ 11 zemlѣ. ѿ Varѧъ ." Chronicle for the year 1148. Translation: "Izyaslav gave gifts to Rostislav from the Rus' land and from all the imperial lands, and Rostislav gave gifts to Izyaslav from the upper lands and the Varangians"
@demetres6113
@demetres6113 Год назад
@marieagheorghe8081 "...ἃς Ρωμαῖοι μὲν ἰδόντες ἀῤῥήτου χαρμονῆς ὑπεπλήσθησαν, Σκύθας δὲ δέος ᾕρει, τὸ ἐπιφερόμενον αὐτοῖς ὑγρὸν πῦρ"..."τὸν μετὰ Σφενδοσθλάβον τρίτον παρὰ Ταυροσκύθαις τιμώμενον Σφέγκελον" Book History, written by Leon Diakonos in 990 ac. The Rus are referred as Σκύθες (Scythians) and the Kievan Rus as Ταυροσκύθαις ( Scythians of Tavriki, the Greek name of the area of ukraine.) Can you point me in an actual source that a) says that the Rus are Mongols and b) that the proto-ukranians weren't the Kievan Rus?
@demetres6113
@demetres6113 Год назад
@user-cg2tw8pw7j I am a Greek, and I stated what was known at that time. Sima Qian, Chinese historian, describes them as blond and red haired.. so yeah
@AdityaSingh-bi6fu
@AdityaSingh-bi6fu Год назад
Hello bro pls make on Karkota dynasty
@truman4853
@truman4853 Год назад
Elite adjustment on the title that’s a 4 star general action
@Rugged-Mongol
@Rugged-Mongol Год назад
18:00 - As a Mongol, *Damn my ancestors got around.*
@apexnext
@apexnext Год назад
Because of this channel I've really started to respect Mongols and that era! Little bit from Ghost of Tsushima too. I actually liked going around and collecting all the mongol items to learn about the culture of the time they came from!
@lukaswarkus677
@lukaswarkus677 Год назад
Thx
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
The proto-Ukrainians called themselves Rus'
@Streetslogic
@Streetslogic Год назад
The fact that they completely chose to ignore the obvious makes this video comparable to satire, can't take it serious.. "Proto-Ukrainian" 😭😂
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@Streetslogic what does it manifest itself in?
@visayanmissnanny2.076
@visayanmissnanny2.076 Год назад
In case anyone doesn’t know, the name in the title was called “Proto-Ukrainians”; they changed it to “Ruthenians”
@MercShame
@MercShame Год назад
Did yall watch the video? He calls them Rus the entire time.
@visayanmissnanny2.076
@visayanmissnanny2.076 Год назад
@@MercShame He’s talking about the title before K&G changed it.
@alymerchant7265
@alymerchant7265 Год назад
Waiting for Delhi Sultanate video
@ElBandito
@ElBandito Год назад
Must have been scary for Danilo to see his countrymen fleeing the principality en masse, while returning from a marriage trip.
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 Год назад
I loved Cuman warriors on thumbnail too much❤❤❤
@giorgiociaravolol1998
@giorgiociaravolol1998 Год назад
How ruthenians fought the mongols: They submitted
@okancanarslan3730
@okancanarslan3730 Год назад
the disunity of Rus principalities and other eastern European kingdoms even in the threat of Mongol empire is puzzling.
@reybladen3068
@reybladen3068 Год назад
Changing the title and thumbnail was a good decision.
@Jesse_Dawg
@Jesse_Dawg Год назад
Please more videos
@ishudshutup
@ishudshutup Год назад
Will be interesting to learn about the Korean and Indian conquests, topics with little coverage. One question I hope K&G answers is, why the Koreans didn't get the same treatment as the Song dynasty? Both resisted for decades yet the Song got obliterated and the Koreans got a slap on the wrist and essentially treated as if they had initially surrendered and never resisted.
@JayFLee1
@JayFLee1 Год назад
Because Kublai Khan was claiming to be Emperor of China, among his other titles. He can accept the King of Korea as a vassal. But the Zhao family who ruled the Song had to go.
@yongseung3272
@yongseung3272 Год назад
@@JayFLee1 lol then why Kublai Khan didn’t accept his daughters to marry han chinese? Many mongol princesses married korean kings.
@yongseung3272
@yongseung3272 Год назад
@@JayFLee1 Chinese always have excuses and trying to distort fabricate history.
@crusaderforchrist8430
@crusaderforchrist8430 Год назад
Goryeo was kurgan or son in law country, Mongols saw them as almost familial kin after 30 years of war.
@jaker8415
@jaker8415 Год назад
@@JayFLee1 regardless of what they thought about being Chinese or not, their actions were the same everywhere, resist and you get obliterated after defeat. Same across China, Middle East, Eastern Europe, but not Korea. Why?
@alfrancisbuada2591
@alfrancisbuada2591 Год назад
Do the Filipino-American War next!
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Год назад
Good,
@materakoczi2519
@materakoczi2519 Год назад
Its like calling the english settlers in the new world proto-american, or proto-canadians.
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
and why is your comparison correct?
@thadsul
@thadsul Год назад
@@Kwerd because in both cases you are defining people in the past not by what they were, but by what they would be in the future
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@thadsul and what are the changes, except for the name?
@thadsul
@thadsul Год назад
@@Kwerd if you think there are no changes, only in name, then why do you question the comparison made initially?
@thadsul
@thadsul Год назад
@@Kwerd I will tell you why: because nationalistic views of History are illogical. Modern cultures are a continuation of past ones, but never identical. We, modern people, are not the same as out ancestors
@gazey
@gazey Год назад
Why is it proto Ukraine instead of Rus lol
@Just_another_turtle
@Just_another_turtle Год назад
He's getting a check from Ukraine government
@marieagheorghe8081
@marieagheorghe8081 Год назад
Because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians. No coments
@Lochamp
@Lochamp Год назад
Because Russia is toxic and a joke. Zelensky kicking butt and making the world laugh at Putin in his bunker deep under the Kremlin
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 Год назад
But its true.
@gazey
@gazey Год назад
@@sircatangry5864 it is partly true but we can’t start replacing historical names just because we feel the need to claim other’s achievements. Historical informations must be told by how it was, not how we like it to be by manipulating it.
@diogosousa868
@diogosousa868 Год назад
K&G.... I like your videos, they are good way to learn history and made me buy several books about many civs/empires/etc. But calling the Kievan Rus as proto-Ukranians... Is way, but way far fetched. That's the same as calling the Lusitanians, a celtiberian tribe, the proto-portuguese. Ruthenians would, at least, have been a better phrasing.
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
that is, Genoese, Milanese and Bolognese are not Italians? and it turns out that the Italians appeared only in the 19th century?
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 Год назад
@@Kwerd Not sure if you are joking but northern Italia was indeed settled by celtic (Romans called them gallic) people. Northern Italy was indeed called provincia gallia cisalpina (Gallia this side of the Alps), then came 600 years Roman rule, then the German Langobard (or Lombards) moved into the area. So, what IS Italian and which one of these people are proto-Italian? Diogo Sousa is absolutely correct that calling Ruthenians from 1000 years ago proto-Ukrainians is absurd and K&G apparently agreed as they changed the title.
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
@@yaldabaoth2 And where did the Ruthenians disappear then? Some nomads came and took their place, or how?
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 Год назад
@@Kwerd Mixed with Kossack, Turkic/mongol (tatar), Turkish, Polish, Lithuanians, Romanians, Russians etc. There weren't many Ruthenians left after the mongols were done (Kyiv destroyed and 95%+ of the population killed) and mostly near the Carpathian mountains. The steppes were empty and dominated by non-ruthenian nomads.
@diogosousa868
@diogosousa868 Год назад
@@Kwerd you do realize that Ukraine this time had several groups besides the Kievan Rus. Your example of the Genoese and others from the italian peninsula cant really be compared to the Kievan Rus. They weren't proto-italians, they were already italians. That's way i said "Ruthenians", as then we know we're talking about the Rus that would, throughout centuries, become the Ukrainians. The Portuguese were once the same as the Galicians (in Galiza, Spain, both descendents of the inhabitants in the Northwest corner of Iberia), same language, culture and costumes. But through historical events, as the roman conquest of Iberia and the consequent divide of the peninsula with the roman provinces of Lusitania and Gallaecia, and later disputes between aristocratic families, churches and others, the soon to be Portuguese rebelled from Galiza and expanded south. Is somewhat similar with the Kievan Rus... A group that would later split between the Ukranians and Russians (as well the Belarusians... The almost always forgotten brother of the 3).
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Год назад
Defeating the Mongols was no small feet, it took talent.
@apexnext
@apexnext Год назад
Defeating, and kinda avoiding. 😅
@ayhanfedai5013
@ayhanfedai5013 Год назад
sounds more like an uneasy cooporation and partnership than defence
@chrissteer1591
@chrissteer1591 Год назад
I love this channel 💙
@ashokamaurya4478
@ashokamaurya4478 Год назад
Love hearing about people who actually were able to fend off the Mongols (to an extent). It gives me hope.
@Tenno_Hirohito
@Tenno_Hirohito Год назад
Hey bro its me Nasca (tokyo)
@alexhyper3331
@alexhyper3331 Год назад
Yo!
@Tenno_Hirohito
@Tenno_Hirohito Год назад
@@alexhyper3331 yo
@alexhyper3331
@alexhyper3331 Год назад
@@Tenno_Hirohito His 10 likes are taking so long😭😭😭
@Tenno_Hirohito
@Tenno_Hirohito Год назад
@@alexhyper3331 yeah
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 Год назад
In a different place, the brothers would start a civil war.
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 Год назад
About battle of Kalka river. This battle was devastating not only for Rus princes, but gor mongols too, after this they feared to go on Rus principalities and was easily defeated by Volga Bulgars.
@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584
Then.. .. In the second round they almost arrived in the borders of the holy Roman Empire in Just 5 years in campaigns.
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 Год назад
@@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584 That was in 1241, 1223 and 1241 is 18 year difference btw
@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584
​@@sircatangry5864 The worst loss in kalkan River is the death of jebe: one of the dogs of war from gingghis.
@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584
What about central Asia defended againts the mongols (the first invasion)?
@danb9460
@danb9460 Год назад
Seeing one of the brothers portraits all I see is Liam neeson.
@mpbomber1491
@mpbomber1491 Год назад
I mean not really a fan of the Russians but proto-Ukrainians really?
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
It's total cringe. The Romans were also no proto-Italians
@radec5437
@radec5437 Год назад
Yeah me too. I don't know much of the region, but I think its quite far fetch?
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Год назад
@@radec5437 The RUthenian ethnonym was still common amongst Ukrainians all the way up to the 20th century.
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Год назад
@@abukafiralalmani The Ruthenian ethnonym was still common amongst Ukrainians all the way up till the 20th century.
@denkt
@denkt 6 месяцев назад
​@alekshukhevych2644 Ruthenians did not include just Ukraine, no need to appropriate history
@kartikmalasiya6509
@kartikmalasiya6509 Год назад
Hey! Can you make some videos related to Indian military History? It definitely has a lot of content. You can also cover recent military history as well[1950-2000]. Great work on the Pacfic War series btw.
@Lochamp
@Lochamp Год назад
Pay him and he may
@akiogood4712
@akiogood4712 Год назад
here's the indian military history: getting smashed by Afghans, Turkics, British, Portuguese. india being ruled by foreigners for the last 2200 years, until the british empire establishes to official states called pakistan and india, and allows them to have independent states. is there anything more to Indian history?
@kartikmalasiya6509
@kartikmalasiya6509 Год назад
@@cuzimmoody6470 I don't think that's true. India was invaded a lot but control of territory and power remained in hands of indigenous indian kings. Except during the British raj. Our recent history is much better Fought 5 Won 4 Lost 1.🙂. Do read about Ashoka, Shivaji, etc if you want to.
@silentbyte196
@silentbyte196 Год назад
@@kartikmalasiya6509 I prefer reading about Ghaznavi, Babur, Aurangzeb & Durrani, but to each his own.
@radec5437
@radec5437 Год назад
It would be interesting a video about ancient Indian warfare. Like, how different was from the Macedonian style, what gave this changes etc
@patatras2483
@patatras2483 Год назад
Sad reminder than the actual "Darwin arch" in Galapagos islands displayed in the game sponsoredcollapsed a few years ago... a sight that will be missed.
@mtsmts1923
@mtsmts1923 Год назад
Dear Kings and Generals, A massive earthquake hit Turkey and northern Syria. There are many subscriber of yours in these country as you know. Also the situation in the area extremely dire. We need all possible help and prayer for the victims. Please mention about earthquake in your upcoming video. I humbly recommend AHBAP Foundation for any possible charity. Thank you all.
@johnbooth5297
@johnbooth5297 Год назад
Why don't you ask Russia for help?? 🤔 I don't think the US should help Turkey until they give up there S-400 systems and accept Sweden into NATO and Syria under Assad should be left to their fate see how quick their Russian overlords come...
@mtsmts1923
@mtsmts1923 Год назад
@@johnbooth5297 what a bad heart, what a miserable mind... Shame, shame on you... There is a massive tragedy but you just talking about politics? You are not a human John
@johnbooth5297
@johnbooth5297 Год назад
@@mtsmts1923 don't bite the hand that feeds and expect nothing your nations actions have consequences...
@mtsmts1923
@mtsmts1923 Год назад
@@johnbooth5297 hope you taste same tragedy
@raritica8409
@raritica8409 Год назад
I will pray tonight for you guys. And John I will pray for your heart to soften up. We all need help sometimes, we are all humans sharing an earth
@TCrag
@TCrag Год назад
The adds are particularly abrasive in this channel. Otherwise decent content.
@raritica8409
@raritica8409 Год назад
The Rus princes were the bravest princes in Europe. It was customary for the Prince to lead the charge at every battle. Im very pleased to hear the great Mongols respected such bravery. Amazing Amazing Amazing!
@kaissertsarist
@kaissertsarist 5 месяцев назад
Russian correct in english
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 Год назад
Proto-East Slavs vs Proto-Common Mongols
@Argacyan
@Argacyan Год назад
@@globalterroil3208 You wrote that reply 2h ago according to youtube, so I guess you didn't see the video's original title & thumbnail. That's what people are making fun of
@ShahanshahShahin
@ShahanshahShahin Год назад
K&G is now 3M strong 💪🏻
@apexnext
@apexnext Год назад
And growing! 😁👍
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 Год назад
So güd 😁
@Technocratos90
@Technocratos90 Год назад
There a lot of inaccurate information in this video. For example, Battle of Kalka river wasn't just between Halych-Volynia principality and Mongols. There were much more knyaz of other Rus principalities, who participated in battle. For example, the head of Rus coalition was Mstislav the Old, who was slain in battle.
@kiton1890
@kiton1890 Год назад
thank you very much from Kyiv
@thewarriorfrog
@thewarriorfrog Год назад
In a strictly historical sense, however, it is most frequently used for the Turkic (mainly Kipchak) tribes who constituted the bulk of the Mongol army that invaded Russia in the early thirteenth century.
@I3ohdan
@I3ohdan Год назад
there was no "russia" till 18th century
@denkt
@denkt 6 месяцев назад
​@@I3ohdan there was no "ukraine" until 20th century
@kaissertsarist
@kaissertsarist 5 месяцев назад
@@I3ohdan There was, there is no word "Rus" in english, because its original a russian word, "Russia" in english only, its came from latin and means "Rus".
@SafavidAfsharid3197
@SafavidAfsharid3197 Год назад
Was the city was called kiev or kyiv back then?
@denkt
@denkt Месяц назад
Kiev
@pietersmith9745
@pietersmith9745 Год назад
Proto-Ukranians? Lol. Edit: They changed it. Pathetic. Be skeptical of anyone who makes subtle changes in their presentation of history in order for political benefit.
@balintkiraly6187
@balintkiraly6187 Год назад
What is that map? Halych never had any territory inside the carpathians.
@daneilpatro2776
@daneilpatro2776 Год назад
They fought anywhere in Lviv?
@eksiarvamus
@eksiarvamus Год назад
Northern Estonia was under Danish rule, not Swedish rule.
@eksiarvamus
@eksiarvamus Год назад
Also parts of Estonia weren't under Novgorod rule back then.
@balintkiraly6187
@balintkiraly6187 Год назад
​@@eksiarvamus and halych never have any territory inside the carpathians. This map is not the best.
@wilhelmhesse1348
@wilhelmhesse1348 Год назад
Please patent this amazing voice here before some AI generated software starts using it
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Год назад
If the Mongols already conquered the lands, the only way to defeat them is to wait for the Mongols' authority to becoming more corrupted and weaker to the point of it is impossible for the Khan to control anything. And then, struck them as fast as lightning and as hard as a boulder.
@Curdle7
@Curdle7 Год назад
wow
@ydnsr1137
@ydnsr1137 Год назад
Kyiv tribe was savage, In 1248 as well Kyiv took out halych making it apart of Kyiv and moving northward
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Год назад
I wish you could make a series about the justinian reconquista.
@franciscovelasco5422
@franciscovelasco5422 Год назад
They did
@realkingofantarctica
@realkingofantarctica Год назад
PS1 Asmongold in the thumbnail.
@khatziOG
@khatziOG Год назад
@sunilgogineni6267
@sunilgogineni6267 Год назад
You should make videos on India
@Light_spot_
@Light_spot_ Год назад
After the fall of the Sassanids ( who fought off the Khazarians during their entire existence) Khazarians became a headache for the Rus people around the Caspian sea . Interestingly the " Rus vikings" were the ones who destroyed the khazar khaganat once and for all .
@Technocratos90
@Technocratos90 Год назад
Actually Khazars were very advanced nation, with pretty well developed trade. The city of Sarkel was big and flourishing city, before Rus razed it to the ground.
@Light_spot_
@Light_spot_ Год назад
@Technocratos That's not what their neighbors believed,.... in fact ,they were considered so " uncivilized ", that th Sassanid Persians built the Derbent Fortifications at the northwestern Caucasian borders of Persia just in order to prevent them from plundering the villiges , ....The Russ Vikings had same problems with the khazars at their mutual southern borders . They were causing same troubles for the Arab Islamic khalifat that replaced the Sassanid empire . We even have Roman reports of how khazarian influential people caused corruption in the Roman/ Catholic church.
@joer8954
@joer8954 Год назад
Feels like we’ll never get that video about Al-Andalus we were told we’d get many months ago. So weird.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Год назад
It is a conspiracy
@mikeog2617
@mikeog2617 Год назад
More like a lazy-spiracy just kidding lol
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
We have won! The proto-Ukrainians in the title became Ruthenians which was the Latin term for the Rus'
@valdaniels4078
@valdaniels4078 Год назад
I don't understand butthurt reactions in the comments over calling Ruthenians under the king Danylo proto-Ukrainians. Proto-Belarusians were a part of Lithuania back then. Proto-Russians -- part of Golden Horde as Vladimir-Suzdal Duchy. Proto-Ukrainians were a part of Ruthenian Kingdom. Later that Kingdom was annexed into Polish-Luthuanian Commonwealth and Ukrainian identity was formed in the midst of the Poles and Lithuanians. Or you don't understand modern meaning of the prefix "proto"? Nowadays, we have come to understand it as "before", rather than "first". Like, proto-Greeks before the Bronze Age were not Greek and didn't call themselves this way. Yet we call them proto-Greeks in the books.
@achmadjsuprianto899
@achmadjsuprianto899 Год назад
Indonesian audio please!!?!
@TheGeneralGrievous19
@TheGeneralGrievous19 Год назад
I. Am. Speed.
@theguysal7191
@theguysal7191 Год назад
proto-Ukrainians?
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
Ukrainians
@theguysal7191
@theguysal7191 Год назад
@@Kwerd Well Ruthenians sounds more historically correct.
@raquemorde3768
@raquemorde3768 Год назад
Fighting Mongols by being their vassal, successful
@vondondolo1582
@vondondolo1582 Год назад
Gotta love the Ruzzian sycophants in comments screaming about a reference to Ukrainians. The hardest cope in history.
@abukafiralalmani
@abukafiralalmani Год назад
No it is the hardest correction in history. Ukraine wasn't used at that time. Neither for the people nor for the state.
@vondondolo1582
@vondondolo1582 Год назад
@@abukafiralalmani The first uses of the term "Ukraine" were in the 12th century to refer to the region, and by the 16th century it was used in official chronicles. By the 20th century terms like "Ruthenian", "Podolian", or "Volhynian" were anachronistic and gave way to "Ukrainian". It was also used to describe the Cossack Hetmanate. It's a perfectly valid historical term to use in reference to an area and the people living there, unless you're a modern-day Russian revisionist with motive to impose the "Little Russian" epithet that wasn't a thing until long after the development of nationalism. Cope harder.
@denkt
@denkt 6 месяцев назад
​@vondondolo1582 It was not used as an ethnonym and meant borderland. No need to push your propaganda
@anarquia201
@anarquia201 Год назад
Calling the Rus proto Ukranians is far fetch kind of calling iberians tribes are proto argetinian proto mexican
@Kwerd
@Kwerd Год назад
your comparison is as incorrect as possible. Russians lived on the territory of Russia, logically? I think so. And let's take a look at the map, where was Rus, and oh wonder, the land where Ukrainians live, probably a coincidence, and it is not written anywhere about the disappearance of the Rusyns, where did the people disappear to?
@anarquia201
@anarquia201 Год назад
@@Kwerd i wouldnt call the russ proto rusian also it just not right to asing medieval cultural or etnic groups as proto a modern nation. Modern nation are colection of múltiples grupos and political manouvers and desitions Been this anachronistic is intelectual irresponsible This is a wierd and wrong hill to die on
@user-wr2sk5nj7k
@user-wr2sk5nj7k Год назад
it's also like calling the tribes Mokshan, Erzya, a couple of Mongols and a drunken bear, - Proto-Russian
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Год назад
@@anarquia201 Proto-Ukrainians are inhabitants of SOuth-Western Rus principalities. That is Kyiv, Chernigov, Halych, Pereyaslav and Volyn Principalities. The people living in these regions spoke a dialect closest to modern Ukrainian and are direct slavic ancestors to Ukrainians. Ukrainians were also called RUthenians till the 20th century. So yes, they are proto-Ukrainians.
@whyukraine
@whyukraine Год назад
#preparetogetschooled
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