How The Zenistar Became Great Again - Warframe

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The Zenistar, a relic of a bygone era. The Zenistar used to dominate the game, becoming one of the best melees for endless missions. However with the changes to melee from 2019, The Zeni has fallen, getting outclassed by new powerful weapons. With that said, could we make the Zenistar great again? Let's find out and dive into the Zenistar once more!
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Shoutouts to Voltage for the help with this video!
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VIDEO SOURCES
OriginalWickedFun - • Warframe - Azima (100 ...
OriginalWickedFun - • Warframe - Zenistar (3...
Tactical Potato - • Warframe: Galatine Prime
Eruzet - • Warframe - Telos Speed...
Traxtorm - • Warframe Scoliac +205%...
Tabs - • Warframe - Maiming Strike
Annoying Killah - • Warframe | Zenistar + ...
Triburos - • Warframe - Ivara, the ...
NotReliance - • Warframe Solo ODS wi...
GuidesForUsAll - • Warframe - Telos Bolta...
NoobShowTek - • [U21.3] Warframe - Ort...
SolitaunGaming - • Warframe Orthos Prime ...
GetClem - • [Warframe] Zenistar Ri...
Féath - • [Warframe] 9 Hours sur...
VandIZ - • Ash-Gas Massacre (Zeni...
Daiki Style Gaming - • Warframe Riven Review:...
Life Of Rio - • NIDUS [Can't Die] VS L...
Life Of Rio - • 7hrs 1min 15sec Surviv...
Rift Doctor - • Warframe: Ivara + Zeni...
TheBakerTV - • Video
M.A.W - • Warframe combo: Vauban...
Aquile___ - • Warframe Zenistar Mira...
Summit - • Chroma Elemental Doubl...
Grind Hard Squad - • Warframe CHROMA PRIME:...
Muave Banana - • Zenistar + Healing Ret...
Sliphatos - • Warframe - The power o...
SeaUrchins - • Warframe. Loki Solo 10...
Dystopia - • ZENISTAR IS BACK??!!! ...
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ALL SONGS USED (In Order)
Koaster - Future Flashback
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk - Morning Glow
Seize Exact-1
Otis McDonald - What We Do Here Is Go Back
JSR - Humming The Bassline
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NOTICE
This video is NOT about any endgame or high endurance and level cap strategies. I base my review and points off of how the frame performs in the GENERAL META and 90% of the game throughout the years with some exceptions.
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@NovaUmbral 4 месяца назад

The section where I show the stealth multiplier is OLD STEALTH where gas would gain 512x since it was bugged on stealth melee

@theopeneyes 4 месяца назад

Zenistar is also probably the reason Blast got nerfed into oblivion as old Blast knocked enemies down on status, so blast Zenistar was an amazing tool to CC an area for missions like Interception.

@AMV_KINGDOM_mv 4 месяца назад

But now heat just does that by stunning and electric

@Zoretsu 28 дней назад

@@AMV_KINGDOM_mvprobably a lot since it’s the only weapon in the game that can get massive in size bc of the chroma skin

@NathanTruby 4 месяца назад

Life of Rio That's a name I haven't heard in a very long time...

@lazyperfection 4 месяца назад

Well he's still very much a thing. Just moreso on twitch than warframe now

$@infractal5033$

@infractal5033 4 месяца назад

@@lazyperfection And somehow... Still a Twitch Ambassador. He will get what he's earned by all these lies someday...

@lazyperfection 4 месяца назад

@@infractal5033liesofrio...GRINDS MY GEARS😡

@kill0cam0teabagger 4 месяца назад

@lazyperfection I'm out of the loop. What that guy do?

@dankmemes8254 4 месяца назад

@@kill0cam0teabaggeryeah good question what did my man do

@AidedMercury 4 месяца назад

It’s nice seeing the Zenistar getting some love again. I’ll never forget getting it and having a blast only to be hit with the melee 3.0 changes like 2 weeks after lmao

@drguthrie7621 4 месяца назад

It is hilarious how much they invested in trying to make melee more dynamic just for me to still prefer equipping a big as crit sword, kullervo, and spin fighting stile and just being a crit blender

@TotallyNoCat 2 месяца назад

Zen with the heavy blade skin = my fav looking weapon in game.

@heyj64 4 месяца назад

A good buff to Zenistar would be an increase to melee attack speed while the disc is deployed, to offset the temporary loss of heat damage

@andrewjackson5295 4 месяца назад

A good buff would be to take away that disk duration being dependent on that melee combo multiplier bs

@alexprus7953 4 месяца назад

@@andrewjackson5295or just make the duration extendable after the disc is thrown. That way you can drop the disc and then whack enemies to make it last longer

@Chromelocke 4 месяца назад

it...does that.

@Darthmufin 4 месяца назад

Ferrox/Tenet Ferrox these days is the easier to use "trap' weapon, crowd controlling and debuffing enemies for 30 seconds. Ive tried to use zenistar somewhat recently but i feel it needs a riven mod to help stuff utility mods to help this thing gain combo. Or use melee crescendo i guess, but good luck getting that maxed so you can stack the base combo in a reasonable time. Also another darth fact, you used to be able to use the bubbles of the mutalist quanta to get negative blue crits with this weapon. I have not tested this in a very long time and i remember it getting fixed, but you throw out the zenistar disc and let mutalist quanta bubbles touch it over and over to stack crit damage, but you also lower your base damage for some reason. Eventually you would get negative blue numbers.

@NovaUmbral 4 месяца назад

Zeni def needs a riven to bump it, base just feels.... super ass

@darkwolf9637 4 месяца назад

Im torn on that helmet for voruna. On its own, i like it, but i think vorunas' overall design is too bulky for the helmet to mix well

@inventor4279 4 месяца назад

You think that, then u use it for a bit then you'll realize "oh no yeah this is the superior version"

@tekkadawn6685 4 месяца назад

Projection

@SnickerdoodleMcfox 4 месяца назад

needs custom wolves to go with it. or maybe make the wolf armor into 4 different Egyptian gods

@cyprus1005 4 месяца назад

@@SnickerdoodleMcfoxim hopeful tennogen is will help with that

@Mandingy24 4 месяца назад

I like the design itself, i think it's just too smooth compared to the rest of her so it looks a little out of place

@s0api__229 3 месяца назад

i completely forgot channelling was a thing, i miss spamming it while bored for the lil noise and visual flare

@theferat2221 4 месяца назад

I stumbled upon your channel a couple of days ago. I left the game around the fortuna update, but watching your extensive archive of old Warframe footage made me want to go back. Showing Warframe to my youngest brother and I feel like I'm learning along side him. Thanks man

@thetanukiwitch 4 месяца назад

i genuinely refuse to ever use any other melee on my baruuk prime loadout BESIDES zenistar, it's such a yummy melee

@pogking-sc3xx 3 месяца назад

How much is a zenistar riven worth?(I have one)

@adamdailey8325 4 месяца назад

God i miss channeling a little was a neat mechanic that felt satisfying i would love a weapon that had a speical channeling instead of a heavy attack trait

@AmeliaRomanov 4 месяца назад

The pink crits the PINK CRITS definitely color blind mode themed crits

@comicallycorrect4042 4 месяца назад

Zenistar has always been my guilty pleasure melee, often modded for viral/radiation, which causes the disk to be viral/heat and the weapon post-deployment to be slash/shock, you can build up some nutty DoT with it like this while also priming enemies with viral and stun from the shock from the deployed disk. It pairs extremely well with Lavos, since anything that so much as looks in your general direction will have viral/heat applied and then take triple damage at base from his 4. You can take it even further by replacing his 2 (personal preference) with Coil Horizon, vacuuming in everything within 20+ meters into the disk's AOE for easy cleanup and forcing everything you pull in to take that delicious +200% from his 4. Throw on your favorite Incarnon primary/secondary and have fun never dying with periodic nukes and a ton of cc/utility.

@Box-O-Soldier 4 месяца назад

I'm a simple man: I see *Voruna* in the thumbnail, I click. Oh, and the vid is good too-

@randomplayer7186 4 месяца назад

I used to play with the zenistar disc a lot. I still have it thanks to cross save and the Zenith while being below day 300.

@theshadow3215 4 месяца назад

Amolistic is going crazy

@amolistic_ 4 месяца назад

frfr

@RBRSC 4 месяца назад

I just did the obvious(maybe?) thing and combined with Kullervo. The guy who can build combo super-fast and his crit buff affects the disk and links enemies os they all take each others hits

@c00l_m0ses9 4 месяца назад

I have 2 builds, max range and crit melee influence and mid range damage melee vortex. Wrathful Advance also works and to get electric working you need gas. Also works well with grouping since the gas and and electric also spread their own aoe so I use it with Vauban too

@cookkill2 4 месяца назад

Since ive been playing with Zephyr more lately i noticed that Zenistar disc does oke together with Zephyr tornadoes

@MythicalWatcher 4 месяца назад

They need to release prime/umbra versions of these for tenno con. Either way they're cool and deserve a form of updates, and it can be anything. Outside of incarnon they'll never be meta, but at least theyd be fun and obviously different. I definitely believe they deserve some love. Tho zenith will probably stay boring lol

@the_lord_2227 3 месяца назад

The videao is great and I love to see Zenistar vids like that I just wonder what's ur build on the zenistar ^^

@sergeychistov8162 4 месяца назад

Hey guys. I know I'm late with the update, but what do you think about the possible interaction between Melee Crescendo and Secondary Outburst arcanes?

@Millardfunderburg 4 месяца назад

Just tinkered with my old zenistar and loved using it to farm SP infested for over an hour solo. With gas and electric damage Influence pretty much rocked any mob that came my way save for stuff with overguard which my pistol quickly cleaned up. Even got my hands on a great riven to push the build to where I wanted it, giving me a 50s disc time

@DragonDrop4758 4 месяца назад

Holy crap. I just unveiled a Zenistar Riven today. :D

@douchefuck 4 месяца назад

Lifeofrio clips so nostalgic bro

@gir240 4 месяца назад

I want more non meta builds like this showcased

@lordvitae 4 месяца назад

I miss the original zenistar 😓

@Riddlywiddly 4 месяца назад

I remember this being a beast back in the day but by the time I got my hands on it basic died straight away

@johnnyvega8655 4 месяца назад

Can you do an How Ash smoked Warframe video? It's my friends favorite frame before his nerf to his ult, and i would really like to know what you think of his current kit

@BokorChannel 4 месяца назад

Jet set radio ost mentioned

@xXSonyKilerXx 4 месяца назад

Gonna try the zenistar again AND voruna. Two birds with one disc.

@v3igazord Месяц назад

after the gient greatsword skin im never dumping the zenistar

@mitza1416 4 месяца назад

this video reminded me of the nekros atterax times

@Lanewreck 4 месяца назад

With all the power creep and the numerous near afk nuke styles of play, de should just give all its fun quirks back.

@SneakybeakyScrub 4 месяца назад

i mean like it is still rlly good its just free damage wherever you arent especially if ur vauban or claiban or something

@ricktherock 4 месяца назад

Yes. One of my favorite weapons. I'm in.

@eliaspanayi3465 4 месяца назад

I picked this one first and regret it, hopefully this will be a good way to make it worth it

@alexprus7953 4 месяца назад

Honestly my biggest gripe with the current Zenistar is that you need to build up combo first and then throw the disc, because by that time everything is dead and the disc doesn't hit anyone. I think it would be better to throw the disc first and then extend its duration by building up the combo counter. Bonus points if they let the disc hits affect the combo counter. Another problem is that recalling the disc requires a charge attack and wastes the combo for no good reason. I think it'd be better of the recall was free.

@ministerjlupine8175 3 дня назад

I miss melee channeling

@user-ov8cu5ff2y 4 месяца назад

Been using the zenistar for way too many years at this point if you can get yourself a riven with a attack speed and a Max initial combo and it'll probably end up being the only melee you'll use for the rest of your Warframe playtime

@Barbaric_Nova 4 месяца назад

hey nova, i'm not sure if you'd be willing to reach out to me for a zenistar build, but i have a pretty crazy build that i've been theory crafting since WITW and i've been trying to find an outlet for it

@Srt_resium 4 месяца назад

I would use it but I got other melees that suit me better

@beejaytea5964 3 месяца назад

How is Tennokai Zenistar?

@BiancaRoughFin 4 месяца назад

I used to build my Zenistar for Blast and Shock, this would StunLock anything that ran into its area of effect. For said reason i had named mine "10m Nope".

@NovaUmbral 4 месяца назад

Wasn’t aware of the heavy blade skin bumping attack speed, interesting

@Man_Of_Logic 4 месяца назад

As a melee Tenno, Zenistar is decent enough to help me survive survival😋

@Nnnnx1 4 месяца назад

long live zenistar

@iamterra6705 4 месяца назад

Voruna needs more cosmetic options let’s be real.

@lordcommissarspartan 4 месяца назад

I miss old gas, and wish DE would increase the uptime on the disk to 20 seconds, and still increase by 10 at a time. Base 10 is so fucking low

@jderpx8002 4 месяца назад

make a video about vauban !!

@noahedenborg4221 4 месяца назад

neat didnt know without disc it gets rid of heat

@unzkipriime4283 4 месяца назад

im actually surprised it's not good anymore, I haven't been using it simply because new toys released

@sajinkahnalt 4 месяца назад

@krulzvain8933 4 месяца назад

what is the chest piece armor of voruna?

@noahedenborg4221 4 месяца назад

rift sigil me thinks

@lesbo6347 4 месяца назад

wheres..... the build.

@lastoflancas 4 месяца назад

11:04 - What meme? What am I missing here?

@rodrodrodrodrod 4 месяца назад

Oh no, not another

@missileslayz7772 4 месяца назад

God I miss ivara + zenistar completing missions from spawn ;-;

@chronicler22 4 месяца назад

ah, to finally find a warframe creator who dislikes catalyzing shields too

@Mr.DimoDimo 4 месяца назад

NEED Nova Retrospective!!!!

@johithestar414 4 месяца назад

Video 1 of askin Nova for a Atlas video

@dontassociate 2 месяца назад

Gas electric melee influence on telos boltace groups and insta pops huge groups

@logansager9836 4 месяца назад

Hear me out. Incarnon zenistar that buffs it back to its previous and rightful glory

@larrytheassdestroyer4149 4 месяца назад

Ngl I quit warframe when they nerfed this might come back tho

@IplayTeemoasaWard 4 месяца назад

Ah Zenistar, a poor victim to the wave of "I think we gotta dial the OPness a bit back guys" at DE and like a year later we get the Helminth system :D

@user-th4uu5dy7y 23 дня назад

Im so dumb to don't choose zenith 😢 now i wait 200 day again.

@blockomaniac 4 месяца назад

ZENISTAR SUPREMACY

@GODiKING 4 месяца назад

The legacy of LifeOfRio endurance weapon 😂

@BlowAway 4 месяца назад

The stealth dmg math is wrong. The multiplier is additive to crit dmg. So 4x crit + 8x stealth will be 12x damage. Increase of 3x instead of 8x.

@NovaUmbral 4 месяца назад

Old stealth gas procs I should have clarified* It was 512x back then for gas

@BlowAway 4 месяца назад

Did they change it from beeing multiplicative to additive? Never read it in the patchnotes so just assumed its always been like this.

@samnizalplays 4 месяца назад

the gas nerf was a hidden nerf that i believe at the time they didnt mention in patch notes i think., @@BlowAway

@themoon6592 4 месяца назад

without disk? put that zenistar you know where.

@DR3_34D 4 месяца назад

Zawg

@warframelichyt 4 месяца назад

Voruna best Warframe

@Siegram999 4 месяца назад

Just make it work like a glaive lol

@Hamudi0_0 4 месяца назад

@zenerstorm95 4 месяца назад

Hey, at least the Zenistar isn't as bad as the Azima. Please DE, buff it. I want it to be good so bad.

@lordvitae 4 месяца назад

My biggest complaint with warframe is that it is mostly pve and they be like oh no we can't let players play the way they want. Which is ironic since they make all these wonderful mods that next to never get used on account of 'mandatory mods'😂

@Dbts0214 4 месяца назад

Oh how i wish to be back in those days 😢

@joshuathomasverghese1341 4 месяца назад

You too, Nova?? I guess you must be handling the nuance, history and usage tidbits huh?

@NovaUmbral 4 месяца назад

We all planned this series of videos as a giant meme after the Phantasma responses, its working well surprisingly ;)

@gavinflynn9345 4 месяца назад

No idea why DE didn't give primed variants as a login reward. Imagine the joy of getting all 4 weapons primed, in a single pack, on day 2000 or something. DE could leave the current Zeni as is, and rework the primed, and give the rifle (name escapes me atm) void damage