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How Thick is a 3 Sided Die? (WRONG - see update) 

sirrandalot
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UPDATE! This number is irrelevant, see why here: • Does a Fair 3 Sided Co...
Made a little simulation to see if I could figure out the necessary ratio of diameter to thickness to produce a fair 3 sided cylindrical die.
The magic number is 2.415 ... apparently.
Original standupmaths and Matt Parker videos:
• How thick is a three-s...
• Help me find the thick...
Music is "Long Stroll" by Kevin MacLeod from incompetech.com/
Intro sound effects from freesound.org/

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@sirrandalot
@sirrandalot 3 года назад
See the new and improved version, with more detailed and weirder results! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cE12ri79FUQ.html
@abdullahismail9425
@abdullahismail9425 5 лет назад
First we needed math to figure out simulations, now we need simulations to figure out math
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 4 года назад
Yep
@AstronautaVerdadeiro_77
@AstronautaVerdadeiro_77 3 года назад
you couldn't live with your failure, and where did it take you, back to me
@Doggyshakespeare
@Doggyshakespeare 5 лет назад
2.415 is really close to √2 + 1 ≈ 2.4142 (and the reciprocal 0.414 ≈ √2 - 1), so maybe something there?
@armagetronfasttrack9808
@armagetronfasttrack9808 5 лет назад
That is the silver ratio
@talonviperchef4048
@talonviperchef4048 5 лет назад
YESYESYES
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 4 года назад
So we need a silver coin with the silver ratio of diameter to thickness? :D
@GabrielPohl
@GabrielPohl 3 года назад
@@candyneige6609 pi is 3.1415
@azzteke
@azzteke 2 года назад
@@GabrielPohl Nö
@johna7381
@johna7381 5 лет назад
Any chance you can try a couple more simulation with the sizes Matt used (2 root 2 and root 3)? That will -- if you get the same results to what they got -- sorta, kinda, give you some confidence that your simulation matches their real dice throws.
@tristrumandrewsfisho339
@tristrumandrewsfisho339 5 лет назад
I'm onto it. i think it has to do with the center of gravity being a certain angle from the edge.
@YanickSP
@YanickSP 5 лет назад
Loved it! You earned yourself a subscribe. More videos like this! Matt parker needs to see this!
@tristrumandrewsfisho339
@tristrumandrewsfisho339 5 лет назад
A quick check and the angle of center of gravity to the circular edge is 22.5 degrees or pi/8 rads.
@MAP233224
@MAP233224 4 года назад
2.415 is very close to 1+√2
@MAP233224
@MAP233224 4 года назад
My first guess on this problem was phi+1 (took an average of the statistical results they got).
@jaidenlang4991
@jaidenlang4991 5 лет назад
It's a miracle! A video!
@johannesandersson2670
@johannesandersson2670 5 лет назад
Cool video Sir
@vlauxa
@vlauxa 11 месяцев назад
have you thought of, yk like a obloid die with a triangular shape???
@weldinggeek
@weldinggeek 4 года назад
I think that removing any that are not flat is going to skew the data in favor of center over sides. Any chance you can run again removing chance of coin interfering with other coins.
@sirrandalot
@sirrandalot 4 года назад
I think this file is lost to history after I change the hard drive in my computer, but if I do it again I'll take that into account. If I remember correctly though, the amount that had inappropriate resting values at the end were very low in comparison to the amount that were definitively one way or the other.
@weldinggeek
@weldinggeek 4 года назад
@@sirrandalot Wow. Wasn't expecting a reply on a year old post. Thank you for answering. I just wanted as perfect as possible answer before I 3d print my own.
@twiztytwist625
@twiztytwist625 5 лет назад
Polyhedral dice are out of style, I guess
@kameronpeterson3601
@kameronpeterson3601 5 лет назад
you cant make a 3-sided polyhedral shape
@ivanxdxd
@ivanxdxd 4 года назад
Source code please
@Troyseph
@Troyseph 4 года назад
Does the mass of the disks affect the outcome?
@djsyntic
@djsyntic 4 года назад
It shouldn't if the mass is assumed to be evenly distributed throughout the disk.
@Luke_Freeman
@Luke_Freeman Год назад
0.414=(sqrt2)-1
@user-cd5so9ox2e
@user-cd5so9ox2e 3 года назад
I’m confused😅
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 4 года назад
The magic number is pi ! ...minus one.
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