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Seems you too are someone 40+ then.🙂 Because 2000 feels like it wasn't too far back.😔 . . Hmmm :-/ Prinair 191 Comair 191 Delta air fight 191 Jet lie 191 American Airlines 191 .... and all these are just the ones in or around one continent.
the first officer did everything right in this. most i know would've or might've been imitated by the captain and let him do what he wants as they either try to ignore him or try not to aggravate him. Mental health is a must and a priority or any kind of aviation and the first officer just did well and got the plan down safely.
A plane that just happened to be carrying a spare pilot? And was loaded with Law Enforcement Officers enroute to a conference. The dude was flying with an Angel on his shoulder that day. In what was just about the worst situation you could face in the air. he rolled a jackpot. Captain had to pee. FO got the replacement Captain in and sealed the door. Passengers subdued the hulking out Captain. Can you imagine the Cockpit Voice Recorder from this flight?
That poor First Officer. He was damn lucky to have a backup pilot to take over and doubly lucky that the poor Captain had left the flight deck when he did. That could have gone a lot worse.
@@asdf3568 That would be a terrible idea. Cognitive load and no redundancy means a solo pilot landing a plane-especially when there is ready help at hand-would be reckless.
@@ConstantlyDamaged Yeah I agree that it's good there was a backup pilot. But I disagree with your statement of him being "damn lucky". Also, he took quite a risk letting the backup pilot into the cockpit, not knowing if the captain would try to regain entry by force.
*+asdf* Are you not aware of the mystery of MH370 and the facts of China Eastern flight 5735? . Thinking how scary and dangerous this could have gotten, itself makes me shudder. . It wasn't just about having to fly and manage everything alone. Humans... are humans. That much stress and trauma can unnerve anyone enough to be a hindrance even in routine tasks on the ground.. and in normal life.
I know this first officer, personally. We worked at the same commuter airline. He was always a very easy going, soft-spoken guy and a pleasure to work with. I'd seen him several times after we had both moved on to different airlines, but I haven't seen him since this incident. I'm glad it worked out for him AND everyone else onboard!!! This, obviously, could've ended very badly. Excellent video, Airspace...I enjoy your work! Great stuff!
I'm actually impressed how many times he seemingly broke the restraints or managed to get up with a plane full of cops. And breaking those zip tie cuffs? Dude was in a full psychotic break and was feeling no pain.
Thanks Airspace. Excellent responses from all those involved in saving the situation/flight, things could have ended tragically. Hopefully the 'Captain' has now found peace & stability, it sounds like he was experiencing some kind of severe internal torture.
Well for better or for worse, this is the tamest Flight Number 191 incident of all of them. Airspace, I wish y’all had made mention of the “Flight 191 Curse” with regards to this as it is kinda funny how again this was the tamest of the 191 incidents
Flew this same aircraft a few weeks ago, man that was crazy to think a situation like this happened 10 years prior on the aircraft I am CURRENTLY FLYING ON!!
I heard about it but it's just crazy how exactly it might have ended. However I'm happy to see that the safety procedures save this kind of situation. The system works fine and it's very important now, especially after the 737 catastrophe this year. Nice video, still worth watching channel, greetings from Poland
@@More_Row first, 2 pilots which were in the cockpit, not just one, second locking the door and doing an emergency and that first officer did a really good job. The only luck was captain going to the toilet and the third pilot on board
Yeah maybe that's why incapacitation is a check item on almost every sim these days. Poor FO must have been extremely worried the whole time the LSP was in his seat acting crazy with the controls in his reach.
I’m surprised that RU-vid didn’t show this to me until now that it is 13 days old. How does the algorithm not know that this is one of my favorite channels? Maybe I do need to turn on the notifications.
My sincere gratitude for producing an original video ( for me)! I watch 3 other airplane sites and it is getting hard to find any new videos. I had never heard of this incident and am very glad I watched your video. I thoroughly enjoyed it and once again my heartfelt thanks!👏👍❤🇺🇸
Imagine the first officer comes on the PA and tells you to restrain the captain. Man what a flight. At least it's a good story to tell and didn't go any other way
There's a similar incident in another country, which didn't end so well (sadly, too many). The FO was very new (maybe 1st flight as FO) and she was hesitant to go against her superior, who was having a breakdown while berating her terribly as he took the plane down. Really tragic. No off duty pilots to help on that one.
Globally, we must focus on mental health issues. Events like this are unacceptable and must be addressed. It isn't the gun, the SUV or the aircraft, it is the person who has control of these who is the cause of these events. Great job on this video. 👍
Ummm as an outsider... it also IS those inanimate things too. But mostly it is about the culture of that country and what is made acceptable versus what isn't. . Otherwise.. Canada too would have had psychotic killers with home made armoured vehicles, guns and Canadians too would have as frequently reported having been abducted by non Earth creatures or having been "probed" by such other worldly lifeforms. . Anyway... I am not intending to start off-topic debates, so... let's rest the 'Murican' lifestyle choices, culture. . Mental health issues are not region or culture specific. . May be nutcases are EVERYwhere.. but the way they present themselves in the 'self appointed police of the world'.. is awestriking.
@@sailaab you started the debate, then said you weren't starting a debate. Except the cases where airliners were deliberated crashed by pilots, were NOT in the US. There also have been shooting sprees, and domestic terrorist attacks in many European countries. And in Asia. Try checking out the subway attacks in England, Japan and Korea just to name a few. Bombings in France, and the UK. The shooting of school children at retreat in Norway. And more. Less guns would go a long ways to help here. If Canada was a country founded by the trade in human lives and blood, then maybe,... oh wait, let's talk about how the indigenous population of Canada was decimated by government sponsored "reeducation " schools... Anyway, a serious distrust of a corrupt and greedy system and a lack of good education is a great way to fertilize home grown terrorism. At some point it comes back to bite you in the face. You are an outsider. And you watch too much TV. The media seeks out gore or it would have nothing to report. Sensationalism sells. And "Americans" are fascinated by it, because it's NOT what's reality happening in their daily lives. People don't watch TV to see what they could see in reality. That would be boring. If the people you see on TV with armored vehicles hiding in the mountains or reporting alien abductions were to come out anywhere but TV, they'd get laughed to scorn. Those kinds of people, if they really exist outside of TV, are on the outskirts of society. And get off of the self appointed police thing. Again, you obviously watch too much media, or not enough, because Britain and France are both in it with the US... And the other countries being "policed" tend to readily take handouts of US money, so...a little history less after the cold war will give you a better understand of how that works. In reality the US is just the front money man for Britain's continued imperialism.
Agreed. I have had a mental breakdown also, around 14 months ago, and am glad I don't drive or anything. ADHD and anxiety can make me hyperfocus, and even lose focus on certain tasks (especially when I lack sleep). Haha... :) Hopefully this guy got proper treatment. Some people are not fit to fly a plane under any/most circumstances.
Author Robert J. Serling wrote a novel called "Stewardess" which followed the career of a girl who hired on in 1955, and dated a Captain who did the same thing. I have heard of this before. A Japan Air Lines Capt. intentionally ditched a DC-8 on landing, and there are other stories of pilots who break down in flight.
Oh yeah, I've seen the video footage of this one before. Did not know there was an off-duty captain on the flight, though--lucky that the FO didn't have to shoulder the entire cognitive load of the emergency landing by himself. Doubly lucky that there were plenty of people on the flight who knew how to take down the rogue captain. What a nightmare though.
Yes, I saw the video from inside the plane (filmed by a passenger on his phone, I surmise). It was difficult to hear what the pilot was ranting about (although I could hear some of it). It would be really interesting to see a transcript of the whole ordeal -or NTSB's report on the matter ! -I had also thought that the 2nd pilot landed the plane by himself (or did he mention that it was a woman)..? -Could have ended in disaster ! The captain was strong and could very well have overpowered overpowered the pilot (in any case). -Cheers from 🇮🇸 Iceland, Karl Trausti
Was happy to get this notification : ) Glad you're back with another professional insight! Even tho that was a very weird and also critical situation, the first officer did his job so well and really kept a cool head under the circumstances. And yea sure, good there was a captain on board but he could have landed that bird on it's own, otherwise he wouldn't have been in that cockpit without instructor. Thank for the great video!
Flying drunk has no relation to pressures for airline pilots. That pilot was incredibly stupid to consume alcohol prior to a flight so let’s not cry for bad pilots.
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I think the flight was cursed! Flight number was 191, which includes the American 191 DC-10 crashing at Chicago O'Hare and Delta 191 Lockheed L-1011 which crashed at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport while my American 757 from San Francisco orbited Oklahoma City until D/FW was reopened. Coming in, the spectre of the burned plane was visible from my window (I lived in Dallas for 38 years). If I see a flight with the number 191, I will not take it under any circumstances. At the end of my career I worked at Alltel in Little Rock Arkansas where an in-house group of 35 Travel Agents made reservations for the entire company. I saw that one of the agents had me booked on Continental 191 to Cleveland from Houston and I promptly called and canceled it. That is when I began using the same agent for my weekly out-and-back flights.
Yes, I remember hearing about this incident. The captain obviously suffered a psychotic break. Why, after 12 years of apparently normal health and satisfactory job performance? Who knows. Thankfully, the physical aspects did not occur in the cockpit. There were a dozen professional security personnel on board, and most importantly, a dead-heading captain well able to fly the plane. The passengers remained calm and several were able to assist in restraining the man. The incident could have had a much worse outcome. I only wonder if the pilot’s wife, family, and friends had noticed anything prior to his break with reality. If so, one would hope the airline officials would have grounded him pending a complete medical exam. It’s possible, though, for a person to have a mental break without warning. I hope he recovered and was able to resume his life doing a less dangerous occupation.
I didn't know about the captain sueing JetBlue for allowing him to endanger the crew and passengers. The little information you gave definitely sounds like there was something in his history that JetBlue should have known about and prevented him from being in the cockpit. For him and his attorney to ask for $14 million while his mental issues are under control indicates they really thought they had a good case. The fact JetBlue settled a month later shows JetBlue really didn't want the lawsuit to proceed. JetBlue would have considered the public perception of settling and been willing to accept the risk of being viewed as they were hiding something. They didn't even let the discovery process start, and both sides were willing to settle quickly rather than wait for better offers. I'm willing to bet JetBlue paid several million to end the lawsuit. They really didn't want something disclosed. Judges should not be allowed to accept settlement agreements that include nondisclosure agreements that result in hiding criminal activity or risks to public safety.
Lawyer here, Judges don't necessarily have a say in settlements, at least in my jurisdiction they may urge the parties to reach a settlement and may even mediate, but the party that starts a proceeding can always decide to terminate at any point, if they reached a settlement with the opposing party out of court and want to terminate the proceedings at the court they can do so and the judge overseeing the case can't stop it.
In all professions or jobs coworkers will eventually encounter a (temporary) loonie who is going off the rails for whatever reason. All of us at some point in our lives will encounter problems which are difficult to handle, none of us are immune. If problems are so severe they temporarily render you unable to function, this is where your fellow human beings, such as coworkers, have to step in. Maybe your coworker had a bad split from a partner, a death they can’t get over, or whatever other reason there might be… it’s our duty to help. The FO in this case did the right thing. The off duty pilot did the right thing. The passengers did the right thing. This could have gone very wrong if people hadn’t acted as they did. The pilot suing his employer? We don’t have enough information to know weather or not it was the right thing to do. Moral of the story… stay vigilant, everybody!
What I imagine the lawsuit could have been is the airline ignored something on his regular medical examination, perhaps even covering it up. I've seen some sources claim it was a tumor spotted on a brain scan that the airline forced the doctor to ignore and downplay the severity to the captain. Unconfirmed claims of course, but still interesting.
"jetblue Settled out of court the next month, never disclosing how much they paid". Yeah, about that. If he's asking for $14.5 million, and it settles in 30 days, they didn't pay a dime. The settlement agreement was "each party agrees to cover their own costs and the Plaintiff will dismiss the lawsuit. In return the Defendants Pledge not to press further criminal charges, seek damages for the actions caused by the Plaintiff, or any of a host of other options available to them". Companies don't settle big lawsuits like that in a month. They will ALWAYS wait until their initial motion to dismiss is ruled on. Which will take at least 18 months in most lawsuits.
Surprised by it! What an incident! How the first officer have felt and the passengers also! How can one learn to service when on duty!? That too he sued the jet blue, which is all the more interesting!
what a nightmare! a stroke of luck there was a back up crew on board, as well as passengers used to tackling violent situations. It might have gone a whole load worse otherwise.
Have you ever seen how the most flights that goes in incidents have the same numbers, or at least 2 digits? Flight 11 Flight 93 Flight 232 And now flight 191..... Something is going on there
What a sad incident. The captain could have pushed the throttles to full thrust and pushed the nose of the plane straight down but fortunately he did not. Despite putting everyone on that aircraft in mortal danger, I do feel a bit sorry for the man. It is not easy to become a captain of an airliner, and now he most likely will never fly ANY aircraft again, a promising career thrown out the window.
Yikes. STRIKE 1: “Things just don’t matter anymore” sounds bad. REALLY bad. STRIKE 2: Then seeing him turn off the displays, the pilot seems to seem saturated and like he has basically given up (like why they train pilots to NEVER give up and fly it all the way the end / crash site). STRIKE 3, STRIKE 4, STRIKE 5, …😉
Plot twist: He snuck through flight training again and is the pilot of the ITA flight that had the fender bender with Air France then flew JFK to Europe w/o checking for damage 😳
Not as lucky as you think. One pilot can land a plane (especially with autopilot helping) and any random passengers would've helped keep the crazy captain from breaking anything
no, he would just have landed the plane himself. Pilots are trained to handle a plane alone in case of pilot incapacitation. It's stressful, but doable!
@@AirspaceVideos 74 Gear has talked about needing a flight attendant to come to the cockpit so that he can take a bathroom break. Was he joking? Or would some crew member need to be the second occupant in the cockpit in this kind of situation?
I have never heard of this very serious incident . I consider it ludicrous that a deranged lunatic can sue his employers for his own stupidity . He should have a worldwide ban placed on him ever flying on any commercial airliner anywhere . He is a threat to any one around him .
Honestly Jetblue is to blame here. They are suppose to ensure that their pilots are fit to fly, which they completely and miserably failed to do. Expected better from them.
I think, The captan knew what he was doing, Because He is a season pilot, Most pilot love there job and preferd compleate there corriere and retired. He knew the system with jetblue. He did all that to sue jetblue. He pland it. Maybe he was tired flighing and wanted to retired young, So he planted to sue jetblue.. Or he has emocional problems. To realy understand if he had emocional problem during this flight. You have to see how he reacted diring his employment during his time with jetblue. Mental problems usualy you can ditected early. His deminor when he was working with any problem. To be that crazy during a flight. You have to notice his behavior Early in his carrier. You just don't make a decision in mid flight knowing the out come of it. "My opinion".
