The Exhaust valves are at the front & inlet at the rear, not that it makes any difference if you've set them all to the same clearance but most people set the exhaust 0.02mm larger than what the inlet clearance is set to
pgtips, many thanks for the correction. This was one of those projects you work on and poke at it the worse it gets. I'll pin your comment and hopefully others will read it. Mea culpa...
@@urmomsahoe1 because that side of the engine runs hotter with the hot gases leaving the cylinder through the valves but on the opposite side of the head the intake is treated to nice cool fresh air with a shower of cooling petrol for the intake valves to bask in. Less metal expansion so the clearance can be a little closer without any valve bounce occuring.
thank you very much for this vid kraken - the 135 i bought in june wouldnt hold idle cold. ran through the gamut of problems and finally gutted up thanks to your video here and did the valve adjustment. there was NO clearance on the front valves at all. got that all fixed and its like a whole new bike now. you rock!!!
I just purchased a tnt 135 and had trouble finding the value clearance specs. I was a motorcycle tech for 20 years and your video is well done for anyone to use whether it be a beginner or some who has turned wrenches for years. Thanks for value specs ! Great video!
I have been a Porsche factory trained mechanic for 68 years. I d like to complement you on your training skills. You make it clear and leave no questions needed.
Well, thank you very much. By no means am I a trained tech. I've just fumbled my way with wrenching on bikes for 45 years. You comment is very much appreciated! Eric
Second time using this tutorial to do my own bike so thanks for that. Point to note, the spark plugs can be taken out using the same socket on each side, with the exception that the right hand side has a sleeve held in with a circlip. It is the circlip that obstructs the socket going in. You can carefull use proper circlip pliers to remove the circlip and get the spark plug out. Just be sure to get the circlip back in and seated properly on reassembly.
Thank you for the great video… Was extremely helpful. I will add a couple of things that I found through my experience, 1: you don’t need to remove the spark plugs. I was able to get everything lined up no problem without doing that. And 2 I set them right in the middle of the range at .09 mm… and had no problem locking the bolt back down if I left the feeler gauge in place while tightening the locknut. Doing that maintains the gap and does not bite down on the gauge too hard….it doesn’t get stuck in there. My $0.02 👍🏽
Excellent suggestions! Why didn't I think of leaving the feeler gauge in while titening down. I appreciate your sound advice. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks! 😂
I have a cut out issue on my tnt 125 could bad clearance be the cause I have had a couple of people say so but I can't find anywhere or anyone with the same issue :(
I love all the clowns that try to tell me their tnt is as good as or better than my grom. I can have my valves adjusted and be riding before they even get to their valve cover lol. I still like the tnt for what it is, but it’s nowhere near a grom.
Well, good for you. The TnT 135 is subpar to the Hrom. The difference is in the price, which is a strong argument. Take it easy on busting out the clown remark. I'm happy you've found a great bike for you. Ride safe.
Thanks for all the videos. I have a 2020 135 with 4600 kays on it.was cutting out while riding be4 i did a service.have now done a new oil change.riding home tonight it cut out about 6 times while riding.would you suggest doing valve clearance and spark plugs? Or could this be electrical
There's a few things to check. It very easy to pinch one of the breather hoses reinstalling the gas tank. Remove and carefully reinstall. Check your fuel filter to see if it's congested. It might be starving it of fuel. Lastly, check the valves. Were they checked and adjusted at 600 to 1000 miles? If they're off, this too will cause issues. I hope my thoughts help.
Hey Kraken...new here but im enjoying your videos. I have a stupid question...you said the tnt135 manuals are in your google dropbox to download, can you tell me how to get to those?
Hi Cheryl, here's the service manual: www.dropbox.com/s/j53yc6dukca60g5/Benelli%20TNT%20135cc%20Official%20Full%20Service%20Manual%20%282021%29%20.pdf?dl=0 And here's the parts manual: www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0
Excellent job, Eric! Thank you for listening to your subscribers and for taking that huge amount of time to make it so understandable! Big thumbs up to you!
Hey does the bike have to be in fifth to check the valves? I feel like an idiot because I'm trying to get it in 5th and can only get first second, then it doesn't feel like it's going beyond, is this because the bikes off?
Michael, no it doesn't. I removed the spark plugs (2) to release the engine compression. In 5th gear i can easily rotate the rear wheel in gear and get the T1 or T2 marks to line up. Good luck!
The motor is very small And folks will install a big bore kit to get a little more. Personally. I don't think it worth it. My advice is sell it and maybe purchase the Benelli 310S. Good luck.
I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on getting this bike over the z125 pro. This video is very encouraging as there is little content for this bike so far. Thanks for taking the time to educate the community
Juan, thanks so much for that reply. My TnT content is meant to help a possible purchaser of this bike. You can't go wrong with either Z125 or the TnT. Ride safe, ride swift. Eric 🦑
😥😢😭😥😢😭😓😓Hi everyone I have had a tnt135 for 3 years now only been able to drive it for 1 of those years my bike Cuts off and backfires at between 7000-8000 rpms and then if I wait 5 seconds she starts back up and runs but only runs at lower rpms I have changed the fuel pump and filter and injector and spark plug. but it still does it.Could it be the valves?Any suggestions would be appreciated THANKS FOR ANY HELP
Square sockets are available and in most comprehensive sets. To hold the screw while you use a wrench to snug the nut. Also you can skip the timing mark check since you can see the cam position on this one. Just put the cam lobe opposite the rocker and you will be good to adjust. Always check what the existing clearance is before you start. IT might be fine, OR it might have closed up. Which is bad.
Really good advise. I'm not a pro at this but did my best to get some help to many owners that have this bike. Thanks for watching and stopping by. Eric
T1 could not be achieved , it bounces away like it had compression ! It was all adjusted @ T2 .008 on both in/ex ! As found , it had zero clearances on all valves ! 😮
You have no idea how frustrated I was shooting this video. I just couldn't get a straight answer from anyone. The latest update of the service manual has the info in it now. Let me know if you need it, I have it stored in my dropbox. Eric
Hey Kraken!! I am a HGV driver, plasterer and section commander, from the Army in my younger days they are my strong points.Now performing surgery on a bike i like quibbling Jelly.You my friend have enlightened us with thoroughness and diligence in your videos.Hell i think i could give this a go if i need too.I know doing the videos take a long time brother but they really are appreciated by all thank you.
Ricky, you are most welcome and it's comments like this that make it worth while. If you get jammed up him me up and I'll do my best to help you. Ride swift, ride safe. Eric
Thanks for sharing this with all the details. My bike has 900+ kms now and I need all the info I can get before I work on it. Benelli dealerships in my area are limited.
I hope they help you on your ownership. I have the most recent service manual and parts manual uploaded on dropbox should you need it. Thanks for watching. Eric
Does anyone have a link for a specialty tool for the valves? I don't have any square sockets and not comfortable with using players or a crescent wrench. Also after doing valve adjustments on my vw for the longest time I'd like to try one out haha
You are right about Benelli being pretty useless when it comes to questions etc about their bikes, i emailed them asking if it was some how possible to make the gear indicator work on the speedometer considering the section is built in along with engine temp... zero reply from them :(
The support Benelli offers dealers and the customer is terrible. There's a friend of mine that installed a gear shift indicator. Here's his channel that may help you. youtube.com/@sactownbnelli Good luck!
Nice video. It shows you put a lot of effort into it. Around 17:00, it says intake valves are on front and exhaust valves rear. Is that right? Seems the exhaust is on the front, which I think is pretty typical? But I don't have a benelli and could be missing something here!
How high of rpm’s did you go during the break in period? I have been staying under 6k, I have a 2022 135. People in the face book group said they go over that to 8k or 9k. Also I’m at 340 miles so far on the bike.
I kept mine at 6k for thr first 600 miles and did the first service to include the valve adjustment. After that, I have rode it wide open. It's a pretty basic motor, just don't abuse it during the first 600 miles and you're good. Good luck sir. Eric
Yes, I would check them for piece of mind. Adjusting the valves is something most people neglect to do. If they're off they can do irreparable damage to your engine.
You can tighten fasteners with your cordless ratchet, it has the same mechanical internals as your hand ratchet, ie, you can use it as a normal ratchet. No need to switch, unless you want to do it completely probably and switch to a inch lb. Torque wrench and.secure your.fastners as the factory does. Take care, peace and love! Peace and love!
Hi sir! As a Benelli TRK 502 owner I must say this is a very informative channel. Thank you for that. I am thinking buying this beauty ‘monkey’ motorcycle as my second bike, the 502 is a ‘monster’ for a daily use. Just a question please: do you engage the bike in what gear for exhaust and intake valve clearance? Thanks in advance. Regards
Yes and permanently Famagusta your motor. My suggestion is to get them adjusted as soon as possible. Also did you install a pipe on yours? If so many of them hard bolt (no rubber grommet) to the rear frame which cause huge vibration.
It has never happened to me. Did you do your first service at 600 miles? It is covered under a factory warranty so I would take it to your dealer you purchased it from. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I bought it from someone and it has been sitting for 2 years at 700 miles. I replaced the spark plugs, battery, oil, gas pump and still the same thing
Right on Carlos! I just posted another TnT video with a link to my Dropbox to download the latest updated service manual which has the correct settings for the valves. I hope it helps you. Eric
Thank you. The usual symptoms are very noisy valves, poor performance, poor gas mileage, and possible excessive oil consumption. I hope my thoughts help.
checked mine at 740 miles, all where within spec. checked them 4 months later at 2800 miles. Glad I didn't wait till the 5000 mile inspection. Both exhaust valves were tight, couldn't even get the .08 in there. Intakes were both on the loose end of the spectrum.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Just checked again at 4,565 miles. exhaust TIGHT AGAIN, Couldn't even get an .06 in them! The bike had seemed to be running hotter, and had less power. Intakes were within spec, but one a little on the loose side. So I set it too. Runs like new again. Also when I set it on T1, I also check the timing gear, it has a mark that lines up at the top (12 O'clock) and easier to turn it real slow with a wrench ( clock wise) than using the rear wheel.
First off, thank you for all your videos they are so helpful! Watching your video as a guide I just finished adjusting my valve clearances. 3 of 4 were way too tight. After I finished and buttoned it up now it’s got a loud lifter tic it didn’t have before. Is this normal?
Thank you for the kind reply. The very design of these valves are super noisy, mostly becuase of the tin cup that houses them resonates the noise. I put in 10w 50 (thicker oil) and it quieted them down a little. Were they that noisy before the adjustment?
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Thats the thing, there was absolutely no noise before I adjusted them. I guess the only time they are quiet is when they are too tight.
@@AG-qf1ww Ride it for a 100 miles or so and reassess. Mentally note the noise level if you can. My valves are/were noisy from day one. I hope my thoughts help you sir. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures thanks I ended up buying one I went to the high school parking lot to practice feathering the clutch I’m older/ 62/ A kid on an antique farm all was in the lot driving around as well So we drag raced Good stuff!
Excellent video Eric, showing people how to do a little “bit of voodoo” that most are gun shy to try. I make that “special tool” with a square headed wood screw and a piece of dowel. The square is a 3mm square drive very common at most home centers. My personal one I have wrapped in heat shrink for a bit of added grip on the wood dowel. I then use an open ended wrench to lock the lock nut.
Excellent video! Thank you so much! Now I believe I can accomplish my first 600 mile service myself. Hey if you have thrm can you post up the torque specs for the valve lock nuts and valve cover bolts? I only have the owner's manual and none of this is listed. Also do you have a link to a service manual for the tnt 135?
Here's the shop manual: www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0 Here's the parts manual: www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0 - Valve lock nuts - 7 N.m - There were no torque values in the manual for the valve cover. It has a rubber gasket, so tighten till snug evenly, then give another 1/2 turn on each bolt. Don't over tighten. Thanks for watching and good luck.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures omg thank you so much? Give me an email address for PayPal and I'll send you something as a thank you. I'm at james.melter@gmail.com.
I own not one but two Hondas. Getting information on clearances, valves or any other, was never a problem. Neither was getting information on how to do it. Service manuals are easily available, as are parts catalogues. Just don't expect any help from the dealers if you want to do anything thats not Honda supplied. Such as changing fork springs. If you change anything in the engine or electronics, they don't know what to do with your Honda.
And there's the argument to own a Honda. I guess the buyer has to decide if the extra money is worth the headache. You make a valid point. Thanks for commenting. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Headache! I never said anything about headaches with Honda. And yes, it is well worth the extra money. A Honda will outlast a benelli even if not looked after.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures got it. I considered the tnt, but after hearing the horror stories, decided it was better to fork out the extra for the Honda. I regret it so much, that I bought a second one and considering buying the new model as well. If that's not proof enough how happy i am with Honda, don't know what could be.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures hey Eric I need help bad I been trying to adjust my valves 3 times now I'm still having this chattering noise when Im hitting the end of third gear and up I set all 4 valves at 0.06 is that right?
Hello Kraken! I bought a Benelli TNT 135 this week, mainly for my wife to enjoy. I rode it before I bought it, but when I got home it feels different. When I ride at high speeds 30-50 mph, there is a weird 1-2 second vibration, almost wobble in the entire bike. Can't isolate the problem. Bike has 900 miles on it and I am not sure what services have been done on this bike. But what are some things I should be looking for when I am trying to solve the problem? Thank you in advance
Many have had this issue with their bikes. If you bought it new, take it back to the dealer. Just know they're going to try and blow you off. 99% of the time the culprit has been poor quality Cordial tires that are so bad you can hardly balance them with weights. Ask the dealer to replace the tires, due to the shaking the bike in unsafe to ride. Good luck sir and congratulations to your wife. It really is a darn good bike for the money. Let me know if I can help. Eric
I had been looking for parts for my bike that I just acquired just over a month ago from writing this. Thanks for all the info on how to maintain my 2022 tnt135
Thanks for this video. Ease of access for doing things like valve adjustments is always important. This bike doesn't seem to be too bad, especially compared to my suzuki vstrom.
Some bikes seem to have no thought put into the servicing of it. The TnT is a great platform for someone to learn how to wrench on. Thanks for watching Brian.
xee, I'm not entirely sure on the TnT 150i as it is a totally different bike. On the TnT 135 with the T1 mark the intake valves should just barely be touching enough to get the feeler gauge to slide through. Look at the service manual that has been updated and go to Page 61 I believe. I hope this helps. www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
How hard is it really to do the valves because I have a bike shop and wants to charge me almost $400 to do them just because they've never done them and they're going to use my venality of the guinea pig
To me it's very easy. I can't say how you would fair. If you're not confident then sadly you'll have to take it to the dealer. I will say $400 is outrageous for the labor.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures yeah well it's 140 an hour plus tax and they said it would take 2 hours I'm the second owner of it I bought it with 1500 miles I didn't know I'll change and filter changed as soon as I got it just a I knew but I called the guy and he said they never did the valves so what do I just need is a feeler gauge and a torque wrench
Would it make it backfire because when I first bought it it was super crisp no backfiring and now every once in awhile it'll backfire would that vows have to do with that I would think yes right sorry about the long questions
Yes, I did. No, it's not necessary but usually Chinese companies put in generic parts with name brand logos on it. I'm nor saying Venelli did this, just my experience. Eric
@@benriding8678 Virginia, take a look at this list of good m/c roads I've put together over the years. I haven't really covered Georgia. www.dropbox.com/s/b2sudl6yerwlgux/VA%2CWV%2CNC%2CTN%20BEST%20RIDING%20ROADS.pdf?dl=0
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures will do, I'm about 45 minutes west of the Tail of the Dragon. I was wondering if you were somewhere near by we could hook up for some riding that's why I asked. Again great video's & info.!
When I shot this video there no mention in the shop manual so I was winging it. The updated manual has the proper measurements now. Thank heavens! Go by what the service manual says. Thanks for watching. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Link to manual, says tnt125, page 53 has valve settings, different,and page 63 has settings you recommended. Very confusing. But I'm going with the .08.
@@russellp4160 Russell, I totally get what your saying with the misinformation printed. What I shared with you is what I used and I'm having no issues.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I go out to do it on my 2022 tnt135. And low and behold, there is a sticker on the left frame rail that states .08mm - .10mm for valve setting.
@@russellp4160 I was going to mention that but half the bikes out there don't have that sticker. Didn't want to send you on a wild goose chase. Glad you got it sorted.
Just finished my adjustment, a couple notes. Make sure you have a few different extensions and long and short 8mm sockets for the valve cover bolts I had a hard to getting to the front most ones. As for the actual adjustment I bought the tools that are supposed to make it easy, they didn't. The tool that holds onto the square nub is really nice but its easier to get the open end of a 9mm wrench to tighten it down instead of the other tool these sets come with. I didn't have a 9mm wrench (go figure) but 3/8 inch wrenches work enough to get the job done. Overall its something anyone can do if you have the patience. Most of your time will be spent adjusting checking and readjusting those valves and trust me check them good after you tighten them down. Check them with the size you want them to be at and one size up. I noticed the .06mm I was using went in and it seemed snug but when I checked with the .08mm that also went in so it was actually out of spec. Annoying but well worth the money saved by doing it yourself.
