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How to Avoid Muddy Colors in Watercolor 

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Muddy colors! What are they? Do you want them?... and how to avoid them. I define what they are and show you several things to be aware of when painting to keep colors clean and bright.
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@mell8577
@mell8577 5 лет назад
"To shade while maintaining intensity, use a cooler analogous color." POW. MIND BLOWN. Thank you, Sensei.
@tkkozeluh
@tkkozeluh 2 года назад
I really appreciate the depth of your tutorials. Not just how to avoid muddy colors, also the technical aspects like what creates luminosity.
@helenechouinard3473
@helenechouinard3473 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ! Now I understand better the difference between neutrals tones that we aim for and muddy colors. 👍
@condorreades2148
@condorreades2148 3 месяца назад
Reminded me to go back through my homemade color charts of my various watercolors and mark each as Transparent, Semi-Transparent, Opaque, Semi-Opaque. Really helpful. Did it with Winsor Newton, now need to do it with Daniel Smith, Sennelier and Schmincke. I was just being lazy about it. And so easy to find all the properties on the manufacturers’ websites. Thank you for reminding me, Steve, the more information I have, the better my work will be.
@tinahasfjord7808
@tinahasfjord7808 7 лет назад
I love teachers who, regardless of how 'perfect' an analogy may be, are able to convey the solutions to that problem that has been plaguing me as a beginner. It is particularly helpful when I am able to leave the video with an understanding rather than rote. Well done.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Thanks Tina, very kind and encouraging.
@TTomJohn
@TTomJohn 5 лет назад
🖒🖒 Thanks. Another great lesson. Just like weeds in the garden - there's nothing wrong with any of them, until they're in a place you don't want them. Continue your good works. I've learned much.
@aptwalker2009
@aptwalker2009 7 лет назад
But, but, but....I like to play with mud.... just not on top of expensive watercolor paper :)
@joseortiz-fw7by
@joseortiz-fw7by 7 лет назад
Don't be scared of "mud"!! Check out Yong Chen's watercolor channel and watch how he uses "mud" to create beautiful shadow colors especially in skin tones. This video however is still important for people who are not trying to get that same effect. It's all up to the artist what colors they choose to use. Great video thanks
@cdorothy444
@cdorothy444 4 года назад
Actually I love mud. i need dark browns, dark blues, dark purples, dark greens to make the values work.
@Cherylherb
@Cherylherb 7 лет назад
steve, i can not tell you how much I enjoy your videos. I am so happy to have found you on RU-vid, and am so happy for your success.
@donnaeturner
@donnaeturner 7 лет назад
When I clean my pallette, I take it to the sink and wash it off with a sea sponge and water. The pigment washes right out of the sponge with cold water, and it saves on paper and cloth towel use.
@makeitmakesense5577
@makeitmakesense5577 4 года назад
I think it's time to stop painting & start studying the color wheel & learning color. You've taught me understanding color is step one. I guess it's like cooking..i have to understand the ingredients BEFORE I use them...using salt instead of sugar can ruin a good cake. Thanks for directing me back to square one...building a good foundation is always important.
@wenangelsfly2105
@wenangelsfly2105 4 года назад
Thank you! I haven't been painting for long! May 2020! i'm 74 yrs young, love your teaching on colors and what they do! I surprise myself on the small paintings I do with your info! Thanks again, also enjoy your Scriptures!
@elaine-cb
@elaine-cb 7 лет назад
The joy of learning from Steve's talent & experience
@thl1
@thl1 2 года назад
excellent video. and i learned how to clean the pallette properly... it's the little things that make a difference.
@joeaccordion
@joeaccordion 7 лет назад
You have answered in this video questions I've had for years and years - specifically using analogous cooler colors for shading. Also avoiding mixing opaque colors with other colors. Thank you!!!!
@angemac1519
@angemac1519 7 лет назад
Great info. This explains a lot for me. I now understand why I have been disappointed with the effects of some of my colours. I have avoided the mud being careful not to mix complimentary colours but after seeing this I realise that many of my colours are opaque. Thank you so much. x
@BigDaddyZakk420
@BigDaddyZakk420 6 лет назад
I've never believed in "muddy colors". Colors are only muddy if they're not in harmony with the whole of your composition. Still something great to keep in mind for beginners; awesome video!
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 6 лет назад
Yeah I tend to agree. It such an often used term though, I think artists need to know what is meant when its used. The term came from oil painting where its not uncommon to mix paint that looks like mud. Not really as applicable to watercolor, nonetheless the term persists.
@providencevalleyfarm5270
@providencevalleyfarm5270 Год назад
Super helpful! So easy to understand the differences when you explain and demonstrate. I have only ever painted w oils and I loved the Cadmium and cobalt shades. 40 years later I am learning watercolors and the color names are so new and unusual to me. I am also learning that convenience colors in the watercolor world aren't so convenient, I need to mix more and study color theory a bit more.
@sakimiakoto8786
@sakimiakoto8786 5 лет назад
I like using muddy pinkish colors for some skin tones to make them look more sad and dull, and intensify other areas.
@JosieLewisArt
@JosieLewisArt 6 лет назад
Ah love the explanation of compromised intensity, thank you!
@craigpotter4056
@craigpotter4056 6 лет назад
love how you talk with your hands! I will now; proof my palette!!
@elaine-cb
@elaine-cb 7 лет назад
Another excellent video packed with useful info and... always your little bit of the comedic to start with a smile. Thank you Steve for sharing your experience.
@ClaudiaSketches
@ClaudiaSketches 7 лет назад
Brilliant video! It sounds very obvious (and similar to using complimentary colours), but not full understanding colour temperature also leads to muddiness. Probably more of a beginner's problem than the things you mentioned in your video though! It is something it took me a while to understand, for example ,using a warm yellow with a cool blue is not going to make a vibrant green. Also, making sure your water is clean is very important too. Only recently I started using two separate jars of water for painting. Definitely helps with keeping colours purer and more vibrant :D
@richiejourney1840
@richiejourney1840 6 лет назад
Claudia Sketches Color “temperature” has nothing to do with it...Color BIAS on the other hand does...
@rajankumar_art
@rajankumar_art 6 лет назад
True
@pattycyr8662
@pattycyr8662 6 лет назад
I very much appreciate this video. I have often noticed areas of my paintings looking muddy, and this video is very informative and will help me avoid the problem. Thanks!
@shinyhope2126
@shinyhope2126 Год назад
Thank you so much for your amazing helpful videos! Whenever I have a question about watercolor, I come to your channel to look for the answers in your videos. Have a happy holidays!
@andysargent5821
@andysargent5821 7 лет назад
Thanks for a very interesting video Steve. I too tend to use a lot of neutrals, especially for shadows, rocks etc. I never use black but M. Graham Pthalo Blue, Quinacridone Rust and Quinacridone Red mixed in the right proportions make a lovely dark colour to add some depth to a painting.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Yes, I use a lot of them too. Good mixing formulas for darks. Thanks for the input!
@dustinarnett4404
@dustinarnett4404 6 лет назад
This video was extremely helpful to me! I am a self-taught painter working with extremely limited color resources (what I can afford of the artist-quality stuff) and I hadn't realized the issues that might have come from Yellow Ochre and Cadmium Red. I have them both in my palette. Thankfully, it seems like from the brands I have, the only one I need to watch for carefully is Cadmium Red - my yellow ochre is lovely. Thanks so much for your hard work and generosity with instruction in your videos.
@lisatodd5075
@lisatodd5075 7 лет назад
Learning so much from your videos! Yours are by far the best watercolor videos on you tube! I love the way your videos end with a bible verse. Thank you!
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Hey thanks!
@maryriley6163
@maryriley6163 5 лет назад
A big help about opaque colors. Thanks.
@cesartongson3808
@cesartongson3808 7 лет назад
thanks for the lecture on mixing transparent watercolors. Perhaps the reason why some paintings remain vibrant
@mrs.martinez9638
@mrs.martinez9638 7 лет назад
been experimenting and painting with watercolor for over a year, mostly trial and error, but this video is really helpful!! it explains and defines issues i have come across but didn't know how to verbalize. Thank you so much!
@jaytempest490
@jaytempest490 7 лет назад
Something worth mentioning: I let my colours dry out some before I proof them so I don't lose a lot of paint. I'm pretty OCD about keeping my colours pure. Great tips in this video dude. Love it
@zeldacheri
@zeldacheri 7 лет назад
Thanks for this presentation! In other places, I've heard/read a lot about choosing single pigment paints as much as possible, to help avoid "muddy colors". A fair number of commercial paints are combinations of 2 or even 3 pigments, so that when mixing two paint colors, one could actually be mixing 4 or 5 different pigments! And in this way, mud can result. I've decided to buy only single pigment colors moving forward -- after first using up the many very lovely multi-pigment colors bought as "the kid in the candy store" when first starting :-)
@lindathaxton1994
@lindathaxton1994 4 года назад
So grateful that you teach in such a clear manner - I am a “minder”
@joys4524
@joys4524 4 года назад
Thank you , Steve! I am still learning after 4 years of tutorials and practice. 🖌🎨🙏
@kristynsinnott3673
@kristynsinnott3673 7 лет назад
I love aaaallllllll of your videos. Clear. Great examples of right and wrong. Well organized. Light-not heavy. I have learned a ton from you. Thank you sooo much. Keep them coming. :)
@lauravlad7216
@lauravlad7216 7 лет назад
You describe exactly my process of over-working! :)) Thank you so much for showing mistakes as well, it unlocks my 'stucks' :))
@pate8250
@pate8250 7 лет назад
Excellent summary, thanks very much. I'm what I call a "lapsed botanical artist", but keen to get back into it. I mostly use W&N watercolours and keep my transparents to the opposite of my palette from opaques, but it's easy to slip into bad habits. Love your videos. Very encouraging.
@lindaduke818
@lindaduke818 6 лет назад
I made the best example of compromised intensity yesterday. Much better than any of your examples. I did all the mistakes, using compliments, opaque's, overworking and a few new ones I invented on my own. After working for years away from watercolor I am trying to start back painting but I get too excited and in a hurry! Some of the things I used to know are still there but practice and discipline must be out the window. Hopefully I will settle down and think and plan better before I ruin more paint and paper and time! Thanks a million for the videos! They are informative but best of all inspiring! If you need examples of mistakes I can come up with some good ones. Keep it up Steve! Love your work!
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 6 лет назад
You're welcome! I well understand the excitement and need to settle down and be more systematic. Good observation.
@marybaksheeva2874
@marybaksheeva2874 Год назад
Wow, that was very helpful! Didn't know that cerulean blue makes mud for instance and the ochre! Thanks!
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor Год назад
They can. Doesn't mean they always will if used correctly.
@marybaksheeva2874
@marybaksheeva2874 Год назад
@@mindofwatercolor well, I am only starting with watercolor, so should be aware of this properties, at least. I am sure experienced artists can keep any colour clean, but for me it's helpful to know "tricky" ones beforehand and use carefully)
@moma-b
@moma-b 3 года назад
Black is great for monochromatic value studies. 😉🙂
@meggraham7564
@meggraham7564 Год назад
Very helpful ty,ty. Particularly the written list.
@vickiratliff8182
@vickiratliff8182 4 года назад
You are such a good teacher! thanks
@susandavenport8777
@susandavenport8777 6 лет назад
Love the way you present each lesson. I have learned a lot from you and appreciate your talent.
@susanmayhew2132
@susanmayhew2132 4 года назад
I painted my grandson last, mouth open at a park water fountain. I finished the entire painting almost to completion before doing the flesh tones in his face and hands. I used a mixing recipe from a watercolor book that had Naples yellow. The kid died on the page at the fountain. Inspite of the good areas of the painting, it became a study and I had a do over on another piece of 300lb Arches paper. I will never use anything but transparent colors on flesh tones again.
@mariwyl
@mariwyl 7 лет назад
Thank you! I just ordered a set of DS colors. I'll look at their website! You are very helpful!
@aylamonic
@aylamonic 7 лет назад
this has been my biggest issue! thank you for sharing your knowledge and helping us newbs
@dawnsnyder6071
@dawnsnyder6071 7 лет назад
Good tips! The American Journey transparent earth oxides are nice alternatives to a few of the more opaque pigments.
@lynnweiss7349
@lynnweiss7349 7 лет назад
Really Helpful! I love your lessons :) I'm 69 now and just starting up again. Thanks so much for this series!
@path-finder1
@path-finder1 7 лет назад
I so appreciate your kind, soothing tone and the instruction you so generously share...! Most helpful and informative. Thank you also for the extra special inspiration at the end of all your videos as well... :)
@chantelmcskimming6633
@chantelmcskimming6633 2 года назад
Thank you!! Great description 😊
@labtrainer09
@labtrainer09 3 года назад
Here's another "big duh": TRULY clean rinse water. Recently, I completely cleaned the "lump" of Lemon Yellow on my tray, then applied pigment to to my paper, only to see "light mud." Trying to eliminate causes, I finally realized that althought my rinse water LOOKED clear, it wasn't. Only after I got into the jar with a soapy sink brush and removed the slight amount of blue residue at the bottom of my container did I refill it. Lemon-Yellow problem solved.
@karenhoward303
@karenhoward303 2 года назад
Thank you Steve!
@kathleenfischer2241
@kathleenfischer2241 4 года назад
Very helpful and showed me some of my errors.
@DrawingWithFire
@DrawingWithFire 7 лет назад
Great video Steve! 😆 Awesome explanations. I still like playing in the mud! My body & brain may be adult, but my heart is only 4.3 years old. 😉
@catherinelevison3310
@catherinelevison3310 5 лет назад
Now I know why I am Miss Muddy. Those are the colors I’m mixing with. I have stopped adding black. I was using it to get Nature colors more realistic vs. pastel baby-bedroom light colors in my landscapes, but I learned to quit that. Without this teaching I would have kept using Yellow Orche, etc.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 5 лет назад
Well I'm not telling you to quit using Yellow Ochre, just be aware of it's tendencies and use it accordingly. It can be a lovely color in the right circumstances. There are some transparent versions too. Schmincke makes one. Muddies much less.
@lorrieg4498
@lorrieg4498 5 лет назад
I have been prone to use too many browns, and only recently becoming more aware of the effect of opaque colors. I am painting some very colorful fall leaves and trying not to muddy up the colors, needless to say it is a good exercise.
@helenemarwood9960
@helenemarwood9960 7 лет назад
Now, I understand why some colors on paper turn muddy. I am a beginner. Thank you.
@Shatril1
@Shatril1 5 лет назад
Dang, this was eye opening. I really resembled many of these problems. Thanks a million for the video.
@SarahAndBoston
@SarahAndBoston 3 года назад
Awesome video! I learned a lot thanks.
@annfoster1980
@annfoster1980 7 лет назад
Thanks again from Australia. I always learn something new from you.
@mmmmlllljohn
@mmmmlllljohn 6 лет назад
Thanks for your clear explanation re mud! So appreciate you sharing your experience and knowledge.🇨🇦😍
@LadyLeda2
@LadyLeda2 4 года назад
Great video!!! Thank you so very very much!!!
@Karla_Smith
@Karla_Smith 7 лет назад
Very helpful and answers some of my own questions and experiences...
@OldLady-um9kt
@OldLady-um9kt 7 лет назад
A very good, informative video. Thank you. I only have M. Graham transparent watercolors. Mainly because of your lessons/ videos, but I just love the depth, you have taught, that can be achieved by layering transparent watercolors. I took art in school for four years and never absorbed so much great information as I do with your videos. Thanks again. Save the mud for mud packs and pies. LOL Hugs!.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Thanks Connie!
@pablomiezavarela8358
@pablomiezavarela8358 7 лет назад
Thank you. from Barcelona (Spain)
@johnnyrbattaglio6943
@johnnyrbattaglio6943 4 года назад
Thank You Extremely good information 👍
@good_youtube_handle
@good_youtube_handle 5 лет назад
Such a helpful video! I had no idea my yellow ochre was the culprit. Definitely going to be using Indian yellow mixed with other colors a lot more. Also, going to be looking for a possible replacement for cerulean blue. I really only use it for skies, and use other blues for mixing, but it might be worth swapping out for more versatility.
@selftrue670
@selftrue670 5 лет назад
Brilliantly instructed--so clear and precise! Thanks much!
@Lithium_Peaches
@Lithium_Peaches 3 года назад
SO. HELPFUL.
@pvl256
@pvl256 2 года назад
Super helpful!
@marigoldwood8494
@marigoldwood8494 4 года назад
Discovered the problem with cerulean blue recently. In an attempt to create continuity/harmony in my paintings, I try to use a limited palette and use the blue I use for the sky when mixing greens. This usually gives quite good results as I usually use cobalt (semi transparent) or ultramarine (transparent). Following the advice of an online tutorial recently, I decided to use cerulean for the sky - a bit "dull", but I quite liked the result - but when I started to mix greens with it, yuck! I then checked the colour chart and discovered it was opaque. Won't be using it again, I think!
@Sasa-iu9ix
@Sasa-iu9ix 7 лет назад
Thankyou for the tips! Especially for wet-on-wet part..
@sueshanks9447
@sueshanks9447 7 лет назад
great video packed with tons of helpful info. THANK YOU !
@user-bp1jf4qe7s
@user-bp1jf4qe7s 7 лет назад
Thank you a lot (from Moscow, Russia). Love your videos :)
@allanfink6138
@allanfink6138 3 года назад
I have this concept in my head about what it means to actually "master" watercolor as an art medium, to really understand it. I am learning that there is more to pigment than just hue and value - the Daniel Smith website lists lightfastness, tinting, clarity, vibrancy, undertone, particle size, density, and viscosity. I think to master watercolor, to really "get it", these things need to be explored. I don't think removing ALL the opaque paint from your palette FOREVER is the only answer for everyone - but that IS a choice, and a tactic to avoid muddy colors. Opaque colors are valid watercolor pigments for many uses, some of which have been used by artists for centuries The point is to learn how opacity affects luminosity, and how that can be a culprit if you are getting unwanted muddy color mixes. The cliche comes to mind, "use the right tool for the right job." This video has excellent information about what mud is and how it happens, and I agree that many "mud" color mixes would be EXACTLY the color you want in SOME circumstances. So again, it is about mastering the paint, and knowing what to do when. Mud in watercolor is a mysterious daunting perplexing frustrating effect, and I am glad you put this video together to make understanding it much easier.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 3 года назад
Yep, I agree. "getting it" = understanding the medium. I also would add that mastery is being comfortable with the medium enough to be bold and exploratory with it. It no longer intimidates you as a medium.
@cristyjeanconcepcion4654
@cristyjeanconcepcion4654 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this, Steve! I learned so much from your videos!!!
@amymclaughlin1201
@amymclaughlin1201 7 лет назад
Very helpful. Yes it would be very helpful to define the warm and cool versions. My brain understands the concept but my eye can't see it (yet I hope). I know that knowing which is which improves colors when mixing.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Just look at a color wheel. Clears it right up. This video may help if you haven't seen it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Px9um1IBiCY.html
@madacaphoto
@madacaphoto 7 лет назад
Great tips. I'm learning more and more each day.
@DocumentedJourney
@DocumentedJourney 7 лет назад
you crack me up!! Love all your videos! I appreciate all your knowledge and sense of humor!
@artetinta2470
@artetinta2470 7 лет назад
Fantastic! Super helpful for me! Thanks!
@JWtheMighty
@JWtheMighty 7 лет назад
This channel is awesome :D
@rajankumar_art
@rajankumar_art 6 лет назад
JWtheMighty yes it is
@shogrran
@shogrran 3 года назад
The problem is that when I try to paint mud... it doesn't look muddy. But when i try not to paint mud it looks muddy lol.
@Koolkats1234567890
@Koolkats1234567890 7 лет назад
great vid!! my problem is sometimes being too impatient to wait for the painting to dry before continuing!!!
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
I still do that too.
@charitygoldart
@charitygoldart 7 лет назад
What do you think of using a hairdryer to speed up the process? Are there any downsides to this?
@han05n
@han05n 4 года назад
I have learned so much watching your videos. Thanks a million ❤️❤️❤️
@isalawton6239
@isalawton6239 7 лет назад
So helpful, thanks for doing this demo...
@makeitmakesense5577
@makeitmakesense5577 4 года назад
Aha! Transparency! That's what I need to pay attention to! Everything I do looks like I'm using acrylics when I'm actually using watercolors. I need to get to know the colors & stop using black..ive been mixing black to make my colors darker. Duhhh! Ok..im learning ALOT from you. Now..how much water..how much paint?? ALOT of water..a little bit of paint..is that a good "wash"?.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 4 года назад
It varies extensively.
@laurahale5774
@laurahale5774 7 лет назад
Thank you for explaining this!
@Donna_G
@Donna_G 7 лет назад
I really like the neutral colors that one can get by mixing complements. I have never thought of them as being mud.
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Exactly! Neutrals can be lovely unless they're out of place.
@poisonous_potato
@poisonous_potato 7 лет назад
Donna G You're right, a lot of artist use them wisely. But think as a beginner, you know about main color theory, you try to make a bright purple; you mix a bright red and blue and in the end it looks like a dull purplish brown. I remember that my mind was blown away, but didn't even had an idea what to search on Google. At the end of the day, I found some videos like this, and found about color Bias. So believe me, this is really helpful.
@poisonous_potato
@poisonous_potato 7 лет назад
Donna G Look for iraville on RU-vid. I bet you will like her color palette.
@nelsonong3125
@nelsonong3125 7 лет назад
in short, you may want to use neutrals when your shading some kind gray scale drawings.
@elainewillhoft9825
@elainewillhoft9825 7 лет назад
Betty Edwards color theory
@NaushSA
@NaushSA 7 лет назад
fantastic help !
@sherrylee6719
@sherrylee6719 5 лет назад
Thank you so much. I really learned so much.
@joyfulldj
@joyfulldj 7 лет назад
Having two buckets of water allso helps. Allways have a clean brush in the paint :) I mix my shadows from the color in the painting if I dont have the same shade in darker color, or dilute less :)
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
Yes, ALWAYS use two water containers (except for plein air, then its not practical). I actually have a triple well bucket.
@joyfulldj
@joyfulldj 7 лет назад
I have 2 fancy Pickle Jars LOL
@gorway7
@gorway7 6 лет назад
A .Vultink - Same here - Gherkin (ogórki) jars, I have some huge ones. Pickled Pear jars (Pears in Brandy) are really fancy if you can get them - make lovely water jars.
@cazscot8397
@cazscot8397 7 лет назад
excellent artist plus advice
@pinkypilot
@pinkypilot 7 лет назад
Great info for us newbies. Thanks.
@Juhani139
@Juhani139 7 лет назад
This is the video I've been waiting for! thank you
@christineappel-hinderliter3086
Fantastic tips thank you for sharing
@Megzamani
@Megzamani 2 года назад
Thankyou
@ghalone
@ghalone 5 лет назад
You're such a great teacher! I feel pretty confident about watercolor but I'm still watching your videos.
@amykoenig8424
@amykoenig8424 7 лет назад
just stumbled across your site.. very excited..
@mindofwatercolor
@mindofwatercolor 7 лет назад
+Amy Koenig welcome
@pipermac
@pipermac 2 года назад
His pallette looks better than my paintings.
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