How to become a specialist in South Africa| The Process and steps taken| Road to FC | Dr Ann 

Do it, I'm currently at Varsity doing my third year but I don't really like what I do so I'm going back to grade 11 next year.

@@asandazwane6747 thank you very much , the best of luck

Thanks my love. It's never too late to follow your dreams ❤️. Wishing you all the best🎉

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I was doing Engineering(2019-2020) before, went back to high school,gr11(2021-2022), now I’m doing my second in Medicine at Wits (2024).. so do it Sis

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This is so good to hear esp from a Reg🎉🙏🏽 thanks for the info. Yhoo I didn't know it was that intense 😨😂

Nice to see this..I'm in Nigeria And ive spent a lot of time in neurosurgery as medical officer and I want to do residency in SA in Neurosurgery but I have not had much of a head way bcus I'm unable to get a resident doctor contact in SA for first hand information. Plz and plz I'll like to get ur contact or anyone that can help. Thank u🙏

Yes it's the same. your salary goes up slightly from internship to specialising.

Hi I hear you. So you don't get accredited for your undergrad when you're undergoing the registrar program, it's the same requirements etc for everyone. Specilising is essentially getting Masters. So your undergrad only helps you when you are trying to get a registrar post because it will be an advantage. I think you can even practice both after specialising (and offer both services in your practice). All the best🥳🥳🤞🏽

Hi... So the steps are: High school (maths physics bio Apply to get into medical school Go through 6 years of medical school Graduate 2 years internship (paid) 1 year comserve (paid) -Thereaftef she'll be a qualified Dr -She can then try apply for a registrar post in rad-onc when it's made available by government (paid) -Once she gets it, she'll study while working/being trained for 4 years -Then graduate as a specialist

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Please contact the HPCSA (website on Google) inorder to find out the necessary documents based on your country of origin. After applying you'll write the board exam and then start with internship and then apply for a registrar post after completing community service. Registrar posts are few and it's very competitive to specialise here so one doesn't join automatically.

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See coming to SA video 🙂

Also Do you think I’d be able to transfer to a different uni from wsu after first year med ?😭

Eish I think personally I'd do medicine solely based on the fact that getting in is challenge and is becoming harder and harder. If you feel at a later stage you want to do pharmacy the transition won't be hard. Transferring is something that's rarely done as the universities run different programs even at first year level. I personally don't know of any successful transfers unless you reapply for first year to another university (I stand to be corrected).

I got in from rural so I'll make a video to cover that. Im not sure if the fact I did undergrad at Wits made a difference 😕🥴

They pay for their own exams. It's literally just exams that they are paying for. Like over 4-5 years there'll be like 3-5 depending on the specialty. 10-15k per exam. Plus they have a salary 😂😂

Nope you can do aesthetics. But you can't do anything invasive because that will require medicine. But the use of laser treatments etc you can do with just an aesthetic course/ Certificate

CMSA has a diploma in HIV or you can look up courses with DOH on Knowledge hub the have courses (online) with presentations and MCQs etc. You get a certificate once completed.

Hi.... On it☺️😂👌🏽

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Mmed is part of the requirements for registrar training across all specialties. So you get a registrar post in e.g. opthalmology, then you write exams like primaries/intermediates/finals over the course of 4years. The research component is basically the MMed and is a requirement inorder for one to be a fully qualified specialist.

Hi... You only write once you are in a reg post. You cannot write to increase chances of getting in

You apply for a registrar post. It comes a competition of e.g. experience in the field. If you have extra courses/Diplomas/ Primaries in the respective field or speciality

In private they Bill the patients for whatever they do e.g. consultation, procedure, operation. So it's not constant, it depends on popularity, location, no of patients ( basically it's a business) The only private ones with constant salary are those working in casualty for private hospitals and do calls. It's almost the same as public just maybe +/- 10k more than public because there's no benefits and also they see a fraction of the patients.

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No so certificates, diplomas and whether or you have primaries is what matters most 🤞🏽

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If you have masters in a field you still have to go through medical school. They might credit you for some of the courses which may have been covered in masters or equivalents. You then specialize after that whole process. Masters might help when applying for a reg post after having completed medicine though (and internship and comserve).

@@DrAnn_Healthhub oh okay thanks im currently in 4th year of med school and plan on doing oncology

@@richardgarira Even better you're at an advantage. All the best 🙌🏾

Hi... Just wanted to ask why radiography first?

@@DrAnn_Healthhub i love radiography as much as i love OBGYN so i want to kill 2 birds with one stone .

@@siphesihlekunene_heavenly but when you're an O+G specialist you are taught ultrasound skills and you can even subspecilise in O+G as a maternal and fetal medicine (they do more high grade scans etc. Among other things). You might lose time doing Radiography 🤞🏽 which you won't even use much when already in O&G. °°°Also just to clarify radiographers are technicians radiologists are specialist doctors °°°° If you don't get in to medicine then the path makes sense but if you do, it doesn't. Rather consider chosing between specializing in radiology (and do all scans-Ultrasound, CT, MRI etc. or O+G (which also offers the same exposure to ultrasound experience)

Hi there's no age limit.

Yes they don't look at marks

So you can go specialise in one thing and go back again to specialise in something else. Your salary will drop in-between because registrar post and specialist posts offer different amounts for obvious reasons. I think you can have 2 specialties e.g. FAM med and O&G ( especially if you changed your mind after specializing). The only problem is that you will only have to practice one at a time depending on the specialist post/vacancy you will have applied for (I stand to be corrected) I think same applies in private🤔

You'll need to contact HPCSA for information on relevant documents and then from there you'll first do internship and work your way to a specialty thereafter

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Please look up Auxillary nursing courses. You need only matric for those and it's 1 year. Now sure if that's what you want. Or community nursing. They do the basic vitals etc. You can look up the scope and call to compare various colleges that offer it

@@DrAnn_Healthhub Thank you ❤️💐

To specialise in SA you need to: 1) Get a post in that respective field e.g. General surgery 2) For no 1 to happen you might need a diploma or primaries (see requirements), courses e.g. ATLS relating to the field. Some people are lucky enough to get interviewed and taken for a registrar post without diplomas, primaries etc. 3) Once you get a registrar post you then go through the program, do logbook activities, write primaries intermediates and finals. 4) to be fully qualified you need to also do your masters in Med (which is basically the research component) during those 4-5 years of your registrarship. 5) once all exams and mmed is done you are then a qualified specialist 🤗 FC means fellowship of college of e.g. dermatology= FC(Derm) Radiology= FC(Rad) Physicians= FCP This is just a way in which the qualifications are abbreviated So when done with everything you'd be Dr. X MBBCh(Wits), FC Derm (SA), MMed

@@DrAnn_Healthhub Thank you sooo much ❤️❤️ This was so helpful. I can't seem to find any information online. I just have one more question. How can you do your residency and study your MMed degree at the same time, as MMed is a full-time degree.

@@fxre53 yes you do both and MMed is required in order for one to be fully qualified. It's marked as full time but is actually technically part time because you're studying and working at the same time

@@DrAnn_Healthhub Oh. That makes sense. Thank you so much!

Yes but you have to have gone to through the process as listed in my coming to sa video.

@@DrAnn_Healthhub Would you please tell me are the foreigners also get Paid as they are doing registrar program (residency) like their college South African doctors ??

You check the one you want to do on the CMSA website and see if you meet requirements and then apply www.cmsa.co.za/view_college_list.aspx

No no need to be a GP. Youll need a registrar post to specialise

I'm also in grade 9 my dream is to be a neurosurgeon or neurologist the brain just fascinates me so much

It's possible 🥳☺️🤞🏽try work hard towards matric also grade 11 is very important

Requirements for Medicine n Actuary is Maths n science - for decision making ask and ask all questions there's never a stupid question coz both degrees are different in all aspect one deals with human lives, while one deals with numbers. Thanks to the likes of Dr Ann - they are at least showing u some pieces of medicine. Otherwise all the best.

if youre more into ns, take medicine. if youre into math and ems take actuarial science, especially math. as an actuarial science student id say choose math, accounting, economics and it/cat in grade 10 if you decide to pursue actuarial science.

Consequently, I've already chosen my subject my utmost interest lies in Mathematics, Social Sciences mostly Geography and Natural Sciences. However considering the limitation of subjects in my school( no school near my resedential area or close to home offer my desire of subjects) I've chosen the following: Mathematics Physical Sciences Life Sciences Geography

You'll do 2 years internship then 1year comserve then thereafter apply for a registrar post to specialize. If you get it, only then can you specialize, if not you will wait in an MO (medical officer) post.

Yes. A post for a registrar gets advertised (with salary and all)

Yes so for regs the fees for the exams vary from 10k-15k per exam. The prices are on the CMSA website. The prices for diplomas are also on the CMSA website www.cmsa.co.za/view_college_list.aspx

Thanks Dr Ann 🦋

Thanks Dr Ann. I went to the link and the information there was so informative. Dr what exactly is a primary and where does on do a primary?

@@vuvuleem_2219 it's like the first exam you write when studying to become a specialist. Some primaries require you to have a registrar post others don't. You can just write them even as an MO and it's an advantage when applying for a post. I hope you get me

@@DrAnn_Healthhub You are such a blessing wena. Thank you so much

Thanks for picking that up and clarifying 🙏🏽 Yes internship is standard everywhere. But can there's specialties interns don't rotate in e.g. ENT. So do they rotate in everything including Lab Specialties?

@@DrAnn_Healthhub ive edited my comment- i agree with u they - choose specialities while in med school - they have a ceremony for that called Matching - im not sure the scope of internship vs residency. Yes i agree - what if u chose a wrong speciality what then - I thought or think during internship they are more general den the following yr during residency thats when u wil now focus on the chosen speciality ( i stand to be corrected)

@@ituleo697 highly doubt they rotate in everything during internship. Internship is for major specialties (basics). Residency is equivalent to being a registrar. You will have already committed to a specialty. So personally its still tricky because at least in SA you can apply to be and MO in a specific specialty. You basically will be doing all the work (unlike internship where You're supervised), this then gives you a better view of the demands and you can always change your mind 🤞🏽.

So you can go specialise in one thing and go back again to specialise in something else. Your salary will drop in-between because registrar post and specialist posts offer different amounts for obvious reasons. I think you can have 2 specialties e.g. FAM med and O&G ( especially if you changed your mind after specializing). The only problem is that you will only have to practice one at a time depending on the specialist post/vacancy you will have applied for (I stand to be corrected) I think same applies in private🤔

Thank you Doc

Hey.... no. They look at primaries and intermediates for the respective specialty. Medschool results don't count

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@@DrAnn_Healthhub thats great as compared to doing them abroad which one would you recommend Dr

I have a video on that

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First get into internship then MO work. Thereafter you can specialise

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@@DrAnn_Healthhub thank you so much 💓