How To Break The Lightsaber In 60 Seconds 

In my opinion I think it started with maul in the clone wars

​@@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIV Did you not see the section in the video talking about Maul? The difference between that and Disney's execution was the reason he could stay alive afterwards and the repercussions he got from the saber wound, no more legs.

​@@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIVmaul was cut in half but below any vital organs so his surviving makes perfect sense

​@@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIVNah Maul took a couple levels in Barbarian so he doesnt die when dead if angry.

@@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIV Maul's revival literally involved dark magic though...

I've always thinking that Maul lived because of anger and (close to) madness. He was one of the strongest sith lords at least!

he was too angry to die.

Ehhh Maul got cut in half. That's even worse.

@privatezeron It is established that hatred and anger, if one is dark side force user, can keep them alive. Vader and Maul are great examples. In legends there was also Darth Sion who was just too angry to die, and died only after finding inner peace (He is legends, yes, but this property is still canon). Qui-gon has none of it, death makes sense, Reeva and Grand Inquisitor... maybe, they use dark side, and we know Reeva has a lot of hate, just not sure if they had enough power for it, all in all their force was pretty weak... but it is possible. Sabrine and Finn? No, like... just no. And Kylo would have probably been dead were Rey not learned from Jedi knight Jedi academy and unlocked the force heal.

@@user-fw8ry1tq4y Honestly a sith being extremely emotional- Or heck we'll say force users in general if we count anakin [He wasn't trained by the sith...Yet] Seems to mean they'll probably survive if they cling onto that emotion. Vader just lost his wife, was just betrayed in his eyes, and left for dead. His emotions are burning hot angry. And even then, he was put back together by palpatine later. Maul created a genuine hateful bond of Kenobi, an obsession with kenobi. Ashamed and defeated in the moment by Kenobi. And even then he only clung onto survival and fell into madness. Most other surviving incidents involve limbs being lopped off, and generally those incidents include the person having to be saved, because their now missing a limb. Luke was arguably made of iron more then his father was, Because Luke clung onto for dear life afterwords and was still conscious, while anakin basically just went down. Here, a mandalorian who played at being a jedi got stabbed by, my assumption here, a fallen jedi(?) she basically just met is. Less impressive. Especially since we saw the lightsaber wiggle a bit in her. Honestly? The better show writing could have been wearing some mando bits on her, to both seed the fact that she hasn't abandoned her culture entirely, if only for practical reasons. Or for having some Beskar between her and a lightsaber blow for this exact reason. Heck you can have it be a small amount so it 'slowed the saber down' and 'prevented your entire kidney from pulling a qui-gon'.

Yesh with 21st century, you cant survive😅

I think the biggest problem is that the heat of the lightsaber would have not only pierced her organs, but boiled everything around it. THOSE ORGANS ARE GONE!

Plus, once Shin landed the stab all she has to do is slice up and split Sabine in half. You don’t have to pull a blade of pure energy straight back out.

just slap a bacta patch on it dude! all better!

Light saber wounds are not fencing wounds Disney. It's so easy to cut everything like a butter. Once you stab something, how could the user resist the temptation to ignore swinging it more and just pulled it out.

Seems like lightsabers do give some form of resistance when it comes in contact with something for whatever reason and honestly I like it like that, it doesn't have to make sense nor conform to our logic of what would feasibly happen because it looks cool. Think Yoda's awesome clone kill when going back to the Jedi temple really the lightsaber should've gone right through the clone but looked cooler not doing that. Basically looks cool and it'd look a little silly if it cut everything like butter think of those skits where someone drops a lightsaber and it falls through the floor or something similar.

I think that sabers have some reaction on matter, for example ,when someone breaks iron door, with lightsaber, you can see, that it doesn't go absolutely easy, person still gives some pressure on saber to cut through , of course, body is much simpler to cut , but at least a tiny reaction will be, and I think that is the reason why lightsaber users perform stronger hits at enemy, when cutting them

Rick and Morty portrayed lightsabers more accurately Horrifically dangerous

Sabers need the regular Star Wars back

@@O1OO1O1 yeah

@@xavierbennettgregbetter6776 #raiseriggy

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No we need George lucas back

Everyone else in RotS got stabbed higher up, not in the intestines.

@@MarioPerez-ng9it I know they tried to make it obvious Sabine was stabbed lower down, but did they do the same for anyone else?

@@MidnightDoom777 No, everyone else save Kylo was stabbed higher up and the Kenobi show was bull.

@@MarioPerez-ng9it "and the Kenobi show was bull" agreed.

He lived only a few minutes after receiving the blow. Probably, the saber pierced the stomach or liver, so he did not die right away, but he could not survive

Yes! Especially considering how easy it would be. In fact, it would be really difficult to pull it straight out.

Yes! I've always thought about this. Even if the stabber just held the blade in place, the stab-ee would fall through the sword as they passed out or died.

​@@CoolTrainerJulioThis idea has been in my head ever since I first watched the scene where Qui-Gon dies, even as a kid my first thought was; "What if Maul didn't pull the lightsaber back before Qui Gon fell?"

I think the only one who might have done this is Kylo ren when he killed Han.

@@nomercyinc6783 Not the point

Medicine...if you stop for 3 seconds and think about the difference in circumstances it becomes glaringly obvious why she survived.

One of the rebels got decapitated in Episode nine. The last time we see him, his head was thrown onto a table.

This is 100% correct. Here is something I wrote up to respond to a different person's comment (who said that the old movies didn't have much lightsaber action/deaths) in a different video about the live-action pre- and post- Disney.: - Episode 1: The Jedi mainly fought droids so if you count those droids, then a lot but if not, I don't know how you forgot about Maul (who came back via Dark Side dedication) and Qui Gon Jinn. - Episode 2: Again, they were mainly fighting droids, but yes Jango did die this way, as did a BUNCH of Geonosians as well as the two insects Zam used and the Ackley beast in the arena (they technically count as they were alive). And who could forget that Anakin literally massacred a whole village of Tusken Raiders? We see him kill three, but when he talks to Padme, it is clear that he killed way, way more. - Episode 3: Dooku, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, Commander Gree, and a number of other clones, younglings (off-screen but heavily implied), and more droids. Also, Anakin pulled an Anakin and massacred the Separatist leaders, too. That's what happens when you fight a war against droids, the main casualties are droids. - Episode 4: Obi Wan. It's the start of the franchise, give it a break. Moreover, the lightsaber was supposed to be a mystical weapon that was to be used sparingly. It was only in four scenes: showing Luke his father's saber, Obi Wan saving Luke in Mos Eisley, Obi Wan beginning Luke's training, and Obi Wan fighting Vader. 4 scenes: one ends in bloodshed and the other ends in death. - Episode 5: Wampa alone. There is only one lightsaber in Star Wars at this point and it's in the hands of an inexperienced late-aged padawaan in the middle of a war. Of course, there won't be many deaths. He isn't instantly perfect with it. He isn't Rey. - Episode 6: We see 12 on screen deaths from Luke's saber on Jabba's barge with many more implied as he fights his way to the droids and his sister. Then, we see him kill a scout trooper on Endor with it. From there, Luke is with Vader and the Emperor where he wins the duel against his father but refuses to kill his father. That's a lot of deaths. Keep in mind the context of the movies, too. The prequels saw the Jedi primarily fighting droids, not organics (except for the geonosians in Ep 2), so we ignore those deaths usually because we don't see droids as sentient (even though it is demonstrated that many are). But if you do count droid deaths, Episode 1 starts off with 19 deaths to a lightsaber within the first 10 minutes. The whole PT is set at the height of Jedi power, so we see a lot of Lightsaber action and a lot of deaths at the blade of the lightsaber or as a result (i.e. reflected blaster bolts + counting Mace since otherwise Mace had Palps on the ropes) In the OT, there are no Jedi and the lightsaber is a relic and scarce. Its use isn't to be flashy as in the PT but to be important and show that the problem being faced is one only the lightsaber can handle. For most of the OT, the lightsaber is primarily used in combat in Ep 6. In Ep 4, the saber sees combat twice and both times it draws blood: one removed limb and one death - This set a precedent for the saber that Disney seems to now ignore. Ep 5 we see a removed Wampa limb and Luke's hand gets lopped off. We also assume the Wampa death. In Ep 6, we see the Lightsaber returning to full form as Luke is a new Jedi Knight finishing his training and he kills. A lot. He also cuts off his father's hand. Limb and death. In the PT we've already gone over the deaths, but what about the second hallmark: dismemberment? Maul is cut in half, Jango loses his head, Dooku loses both hands and then his head, Commander Gree and his companion lose their heads, Mace loses his arm, Anakin loses his hand... then his other arm and both legs. It's beautiful chaos as it shows the destructive capability of the weapon. And that's not even touching the 3D Clone Wars and Rebels series which saw a number of dismemberments, specifically beheadings. What do we have in the Disney Trilogy? - Ep7 has Han die by being stabbed in the gut like Qui Gon and he dies. We have Finn stab a stormtrooper in the gut and he dies. Any dismemberment? No, just superficial cuts on Kylo and Finn at the end of the movie. - Ep8 Snoke is killed by being cut in half, so at least there's that. Other than that, we have that shitty fight scene where most of the guards are stabbed in some way. One gets his neck slashed which would have been perfect for a beheading, but no. Head stays on the body and everyone else dies from being stabbed in the torso except for the last who is stabbed in the head through his faceless helmet. Rey gets a papercut but other than that, she is unscathed. - Ep9 No idea. I skipped 8 after the leaked gifs from overseas came out and showed what a travesty it was so I never watched 9 nor do I intend to. For me, 6 was the final movie. But watching a few clips of Ep9, looks like Kylo gets stabbed in the gut along with a number of royal guards. Are you sensing a trend? Disney doesn't understand the lightsaber. It either slashes someone and leaves a burning mark or that person is stabbed in some way, usually in the gut. Gut stab isn't bad, it's best used when the person being stabbed is important and needs to say something. Think about the prominent gut stabs in Star Wars history and what they have in common. Aside from the victims all being close to Obi Wan, the method of death adds impact to the moment - sort of a punctuation; and they all have something to say, a final word before they perish. Satine dies in Obi Wan's arms, Qui Gon dies giving Obi Wan final instruction, Maul dies finally at rest seeing eye to eye with Kenobi but still struggling for retribution. Disney got it right with Han (in that scene, not with his character as a whole), but past that it has become almost a meme. There's a reason there are a myriad of videos calling out Disney for not taking the lightsaber seriously anymore. So when you say "Barely anyone actually died to lightsabers pre Disney. On hand: Jango and Dooku. Three Jedi masters by Palpatine, old Ben Kenobi. That’s pretty much it for the original films." You are being quite disingenuous and are missing the point of the criticism leveled at Disney. My friend, who is a lifelong star wars fan and even enjoys Disney Star Wars, even says he wishes they would do something more adult because the shows all feel too PG and the lightsabers feel more like clubs than actual dangerous swords of superheated plasma.

​@@thegrayowl1557that's not a hand lmao

@@TheReZisTLust That's... correct, yes.

Heck, why not a glancing hit off the beskar (generally considered at least highly resistant to lightsabers) that skids off at an angle and shallowly digs into an unintended spot that isn't protected by the beskar? Or perhaps heat conducting through from continued contact burning the person behind the plates? Neither outcome is likely to outright kill, but the maiming is certainly getting someone out of the fight soon enough.

It's even funnier because he got cut in half

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​@@amiablereaper Remember Darth Sion from KOTOR 2? I know it is not canonical now, but I like the idea of man living only due to his angriness and with the help of the dark side. And that's why I don't blame the scenarists for reviving Maul.

@@vangogichcould the same apply to Snoke? I kind of like the theory that he is Mace Windu twisted by the dark side and maybe he used his hatred of Palpatine and Rey to stay alive.

"Somehow they survived"

They might as well let some unarmed 9 years old fight a sith master at this point

@@NoobPCGamer1267 I’m now inclined to believe everyone survives lightsaber strikes until proven otherwise. They’ve literally flipped the lore.

Lightsabers then: If you want to live against a guy wielding this thing, you better lock the fuck in. Lightsabers now: Lmao its just a glowing baseball bat you'll be fine

Not to mention the amount of hoops and restrictions lore-wise Maul had to jump through to pull that off: - only got sliced at the hips, missing his centre mass - using training and knowledge specifically handed down from the Sith lineage (Maul stating to Darth Sidious he used his training to stay alive) - going through a process that rendered him insane, leaving him living like a wild animal for years. - only managed to have his mind and conscience restored back to normal through a complex ritual done by Mother Talzin herself

i feel like what they could do with a jedi/light side character to survive a lethal blow is to have the power of insane calmness/meditation to keep themselves alive, but as a set back, they lose their emotions/empathy and pain, and will have phycological issues until extensive therapy (which won't cure them %100). that way, there are stakes to never try it again, as them attempting it again will result in uncurbable emotional unresponsiveness/psychological issues.

Maul survived off a combination of his anger, the Force and the blade cauterizing his wound almost instantly

Another way to do it is not have the wounds be death-guaranteed fatal. When Obi-Wan first fought Dooku, Dooku only so much as nicked him in the arm and thigh, and Obi-Wan STILL got decommissioned for the rest of the fight until Anakin showed up. That is a great example of how a lightsaber can be extremely dangerous if you aren't careful with it.

All I have to say is that maybe bacta is a way better healing agent than we thought

@@JKBismsbut if you the spine too close to the neck it’s an insta death

Kylo only slashed Fin in the back like Dooku slashes Kenobi’s leg and arm in attack of the clones.

@@luisvelez1952 watch the part again.. the saber tip that cuts his back was about a foot maybe 6 inches at least… his spine would have bin hit regardless due to how deep it was…

@@erutarbrath1218 Fin was sent to the hospital moments later this is a world that even General Grievous was rescued and saved from a ship explosion in his home planet.

The ogs did them pretty good, I just wish they pulled them out more.

Ayyy bro I'm with you on that one ..the prequals did lightsabers justice

yeah Obi-Wan was given glancing blows taking him out of the battle and with how effective lightsabers are that actually adds to Douku's character. He clearly didn't want to kill Obi-Wan in that moment. If you can survive from impalement then that scene no longer does anything

I remember just slicing storm trooper heads off when playing as starkiller

@Johnnyanderson2 that's because of Uncle George. Disney doesn't Respect the Saber, or what it stands for.

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disney ruined star wars, but it gave us the mandalorian season 1 and 2

The best Star Wars media post-Disney acquisition is the stuff Disney had the least influence over

Dramatic Irony is a tool. but This is Dramatic stupidity.

At least that wound has some life altering consequences on him

The edit suggests it was Leia, who felt bad for her. But it's still reminiscent of Obi-Wan tripping on his shoelace and falling into a pit, before the fight with Maul. As a reminder. Then when he's in the other pit, he's like, "yeah, okay, that's why I was "clumsy".... okay Force, I'm ready to Yeet outta here, give me the prompt!" and Anakin destroys the Control Ship and insect face dies, and then, Obi-Wan gets the prompt. If the confrontation with Vader and the Emperor really happened the way Luke says it did (he didn't bring droids, because he knew he didn't want there to be evidence of what would happen), then surely, that too, must have been the Mortis Gods taking pity on him, and deciding to protect his self-important feelings, so he could keep pretending that his dad was an awesome, super friendly child murderer.

I think you can still learn from a mistake if you reverse it.

@@KamikazeCommie501 To a smaller extent I agree, but I think the best character development comes out of seeing the far spanning reprocussions of that mistake.

@@theragingrodent__ Yeah some repercussions come faster and more severely than others though. I can tell you there's some lessons I learned in my life I definitely didn't need to that, if undone instantly after, could have saved me a lot of pain and PTSD. I didn't watch the last one and turned off TLJ halfway through so I shouldn't be defending them but I'm sure she learned the lesson of 'you need to control your anger' in one of those movies before. Killing Kylo just reinforced it and cemented it instantly so bringing him back probably wouldn't undo that, it would just stop the PTSD of having to live the rest of her life knowing she killed him. Anyway that's the theory of a guy who never even watched the movie so take it as you will lol

@@KamikazeCommie501 Ok I get where you're coming from, and I gotta mention that my comment is really only about character development in the context of a work of fiction, not in the context of a real person's trauma. But yeah, it was really only in the rise of Skywalker that they tried to give Rey a character arc in overcoming her impulsivity and anger. The real problem there was that the other plot point that set up that arc was also reversed immediately, when she accidentally blew up a ship that Chewbacca was on, only later it was revealed that Chewbacca was actually on a different identical ship.

In Disney’s live action stuff, yes. Yet it’s in none of the good stuff.

Tbh, Clone Wars kinda started this whole thing by bringing Maul back. And he wasnt just stabbed. The guy got cut in half by this very lethal weapon. He was so dead in Phantom Menace. Dont get me wrong, i really like CW. But it has some flaws. Bringing Maul back for the sake of attracting attention with an iconic but dead character wasnt needed. And they ruined him by making him a maniac. Savage Opress was all they needed here. But i guess Disney would ve made this lightsaber stab survival spree anyways.

@@gothia1715eh like multiple other commenters have said, Maul surviving was kinda.. plausible and done nicely enough where it could be said that other than the fact that he was a sith lord with sith powers plus, his upper body and organs was still intact (i.e Heart, lung, brain or whatever is in there) so it’s arguable that he could survive with the sith stuff and thus could be put on some artificial legs, the madness probably came from that too. But eeh

@@gothia1715 You got a point about that. Man, Phantom Menace really was just the downfall of Star Wars, wasn't it? All the bad stuff people complain about Star Wars today all stemmed from Phantom Menace. lol

darth nihilus shouldn’t exist. It’s literally his willpower that makes him.

She's a mandalorian, maybe she has some beskar clothing even without her armor

1. Wasn’t stabbed in a vital spot, which was stated in the episode. 2. She got immediate medical attention unlike many other characters. 3. Why tf would they kill of one of the main characters in the first few episodes

@@wilsonspiegel606 her gut would literally start burning from the inside with blood and other liquids boiling. Even with really advanced medicine, and immediate care, I would expect, not just a lightsaber scar, but a giant scars from the actual surgery that rebuilt her internals. And, possibly, some augmentation.

​@@solarissv777​ Well, that's the point where i would disagree. While one would assume that a Lightsaber should instantly burn your organs, there are scenes in the movies or animated series like "Clone Wars" where someone holds a Lightsaber right next to the other person's face without this person having his face burned away immediately. In my opinion, those weapons are in fact very hot but very precise at the same time and the heat or burn radius could therefore be very limited. It would also depend on how long someone or something is directly exposed to the "blade". For example sticking the blade into a thick metal door to melt it like in the movies takes some time and stabbing someone for a few seconds could cause far less damage in terms of severe burnings. On the other hand i think, if you really would want to look at it from a realistic and scientific point you also had to consider the type of material and heat transfer. I am sure in reality you couldn't even hold such a weapon because of the extreme heat radiation but that's just my guess on it. Where i do agree is the point that wounds caused by a weapon like this should cause more damage then what was shown and at least have temporary consequences for the person who got stabbed.

​@@jabu7624Chief, if something with the radius of a lightsaber obliterates almost any part of your torso, especially the gut, you're either dead or insanely crippled. Nonvitals aren't as big of a concern because "thin" weapons could pass through them. Lightsabers aren't bullet thin. A fucking musket ball in a non vital spot will floor you. Not only is the blade a little girthy, but it's incredibly hot, as evidenced by the melting effects it leaves on literal space steel. The scene was dumb. End point.

Lol no you guys are dumb and especially michal Jae....it’s a shame he’s falling for the right wing hate bs. The shows good. And it makes sense Sabine would live. The whole sawgerara bs you spouted was just coping hard, michal jaye is an idiot for liking your comment

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Count Dooku survives.

for real

Facts, it is a kyber crystal based weapon

@@PizzaHutCEO And Palpatine somehow came back as well

Yeah, that would have actually been a really good way to end the fight in a way where she loses, but isn't killed. Instead the we got a lazy cliffhanger that made no sense.

@@bengale9977it bothers me that the people who made kenobi and Ahsoka think it’s so badass

well yes but no, they of course could reuse the same tactic tha dooku used but that, in my opinion, made less sense, shin hati is an apprentice and even if she is strong we see in the coreografy that she is imperferct and nothing more than a learner so the only way to deafet sabine with a sense was: stabbed her in a liver,an injury that maybe, with the futuristic cures of the star wars universe, it could be a non deadly wound or a force push that knokìck out sabine. sorry for my bad english i'm still learning

i correct my self, on the show it seems that she was stabbed or in the liver or in the intestine that make sense the fact that survives for both the wound

​@@tommasobertelli1021You're right, Shin could've just force force pushed Sabine into a wall and make her hit her head or something

If Sabine wasn't in immediate danger of dying then Ahsoka would've immediately gone after Shin. She needed to inflict a near-fatal wound.

​@@Brainth1780 the fight was on a tower right? If not then move the fight to one, Sabine ends with cuts on an arm and the legs and is about to fall, Ahsoka has to stop the fight to help her, done, no stabs needed

@@Brainth1780 Or make it so that she loses a limb. I think the chopped-off hand bit has been overused, so this time they could cut off her leg so it looks severe and Ashoka is forced to help. Then Sabine’s leg wound gets treated (which hopefully takes more than a day, unlike in the show), and she gets a cybernetic replacement. A Mandalorian with a robotic arm or leg would be really cool actually. And it doesn’t break lightsaber lore (not too much, at least).

Uhm actually it’s 17:04 minutes

Cal was stabbed and he survived.

@@mreggs3731cal didn’t get run threw like everyone else

@@shadowdragon9761 Yeah, he did. There was a good half foot of clearance there

@@thegrayowl1557 I just played it lmao no it didn’t

@@shadowdragon9761 I just watched it again, and yes, that blade went in pretty fuckin deep, my guy

Then you can get scenes with Ninth Sister in Fallen Order where she just keeps going and is still up to fight.

It would cause all the water in your to evaporate instantaneously. So no, it is no way to survive at all. You babies just like picking and choosing which time to be happy with it and whoch time not.

Nah dude, Maul should have absolutely died in Phantom Menace. Even if by some miracle it wasn't the fact his lower gut and spinal column got cut in half, it would have been the several mile fall. The only thing that kept Maul alive was fan fiction.

​@@dudemcduder1628but because it's so unusual for that to happen it works as a great "oh shit" moment.

@@PapaBear77 My man spitting facts.

Beskar was already scarce and most armours were fake unless they were passed down. Also the Jedi are formidable warriors and mandalorian armour does not cover the whole body. Also long in the past beskar mandalorians were so op they use to constantly fight Jedi

@@feryela they did. And lost. Every time. That's a little inconsistent for their armor. Idk if you've seen what their old armor used to look like, but it was thick and covered the user almost completely. Before they got jetpack and chose mobility.

@@Firehawk_9399 the would lose but being non force users and still killing Jedi is pretty op mostly because of the armour. Newer mandos like Din Jarin has plenty of open space to get shot or cut. He just got lucky I guess… but you can say the same for the OG trilogy where nobody had armour and the stormtroopers always missed.

@@feryela I guess but unlike Disney that's doing it because of plot convience, Lucas had reasons behind the stormtroopers in episode 4

@@Firehawk_9399 im sure Lucas did it for the same reason. He’s just had so much more time to cover it up. But he did cover it up with lore and good story telling. The problem with Disney is that for them to cover it up they have to crap on Lucas’ already stablished lore.

Kinda. Getting a limb cut off won't kill them immediately in the case of Luke. He needed medical attention but he wasn't going to die super quick because the wound was automatically cauterized meaning he wouldn't have lost any blood

Absolutely not. Lightsabers should not even function, they are a contradiction. Being even near the thing should physically hurt you, and being touched by the blade would literally make you explode. Lucas and disney need to stop using weapons that should be able to kill you when you are even near the thing and acting like even the smallest scratch is survivable. Disney is just taking at a bit farther, lightsabers were always bullshit.

what would a "non-lethal area" be that isnt a limb?

@@coltermiller1782 well we've seen people get stabbed in the stomach and recover but that's after a while in a bacta tank or something not like Sabine who got up in seemingly less than 24 hours or Reva who never got any medical attention and yes also a limb

@@darthmarr4155Sabine got stabbed in, like, the kidney though. Watch it closer. She gets stabbed in the side, not the middle, which means a very different organ was damaged.

Okay but how the hell is a gouge into the chest better then a stab in a not immediately fatal area? Your suggestion is "cause even more damage"

@@daefaron my suggestion is very specifically to have the character knowingly, intentionally, and mockingly inflict just enough damage to leave her in need of immediate medical attention. A 1 inch gouge across the torso from plasma being dragged across it is a lot less damaging than being impaled by a blade of plasma that should have probably cut you in half.

@@MichaelS-jk8tj impaled through the lower right torso which was immediately treated with first aid and taken to a hospital. Quigon took over 2 minutes to die laying on the ground with zero help and stabbed through the spine.

Sabine was impaled through her ribs, her bones would have melted. But sure, being impaled makes more sense...@@daefaron

@@arlec4012 All these people who want Sabine dead for reasons that literally don't fit with... the entire realm of star wars. If her bones melted then her organs would be burst into flames, meaning that Quigon would've been dead in seconds not lasting minutes. And Obiwan would've lost his entire arm and leg from AOTC when they got stabbed with a lightsaber.

Dude, you are right haha never thought about it, one of the most important parts of a jedi and they have never bothered to show it even with rey lol

Your KitKats will make a fine addition to my collection.

Yeah, I really liked the choreography from the prequel trilogy. They made use of lightsabers as light instead of as metal. Yoda bouncing from enemy to enemy and Obi-Wan dancing with his is just clean. The original trilogy I feel does something else with the lightsaber. Of the three or so lightsaber fights, they’re all either involving older men or inexperienced newbies, so you see how their movements are slow and stable. There’s no bouncy movement, but there’s no heavy and forceful strikes. It feels like they’re treating the sabers as if they’re fragile. They don’t have the energy of youth or the experience of age depending on the person, and it makes sense that they would play safe with their handling

@@harrya9458 as far as lightsaber fights go I prefer the second trilogy, episode 1,2 and 3. the fights are fast pace with quick movement. the fights with count dooku showed that you wouldn't need strength to be deadly. an old man can take 2 younger opponent. yoda could take an opponent 3 times bigger than him. also the graphics of light sabers were better. the after image of the lightsabers, gave the feeling that the movement were faster than what they really were. in modern movies we don't have that effect cause of better cameras.

For choreography, I'd actually go outside of Star Wars itself and look to the fight choreography in the live action Rurouni Kenshin movies. Those are what lightsaber fights should be.

Ray was just full of stupid surprises and Kylo should've been way stronger

Good example is how Anakin chopped off Dooku's hand in episode 3. With a normal sword, you wouldn't be able to slice off someone's hand without putting incredible strength and speed behind your swing yet Anakin's blade basically goes through Dooku's hand effortlessly like wet tissue without much strength behind it

That definitely would have been far better. But I don't think Disney is about good storytelling these days. And also that would be too dark for Disney's liking. But that would definitely fix the issues you mention. As is, it's completely meaningless. They literally just stabbed a main character for nothing more than clickbait on the next episode. Who writes that? And that also could have given Ahsoka and Sabine some actual character and struggles. And a reason for Anakin to show up to help resolve the problem, rather than just making a dumb one up out of thin air for the sake of Clone Wars member berries with nothing meaningful to say. That's just one of the many ways these shows could be greatly improved.

I think Disney refuses to dismember because they are pandering to the Chinese audience. I thunk there are censorship laws or guidelines for releasing movies in China such as no skeletons or dismemberment or other stuff.

what you just said made me think about what George said in the documentary/making of of The Phantom Menace: "It's Like Poetry, it rhymes"

I was gonna say the same thing but with her arm instead (so we aren’t retreading maul) but this works too!

Or at least have her crippled from the stab. Show how it permanently injured her

YES

But it also is kinda… boring cuz it also applies to blasters too, it makes the game way too easy

​@@dudemcduder1628 hence the game design nerving the lightsaber. Also, blasters shoot the same stuff as a lightsaber blade. So those are just as deadly as a lightsaber should be. Leia should be dead in return

@@dudemcduder1628Jedi Outcast with saberrealisticcombat manages to make lightsabers realistically damaging with full dismemberment (which also applies to enemies with lightsabers against you) while keeping blasters and enemy health as normal.

That is true, I'd say however that the game was not designed around that.@@dudemcduder1628

@@dudemcduder1628they also just stole it from devil may cry heaven or hell mode.

When playing the game, I was pretty much convinced Galen was DEAD and had to be bizarrely revived. It's also clear that whatever brought him back or put him back together was NOT pleasant.

Also, Vader wasn’t trying to kill him, he still wanted Starkiller to gather the rebel leaders so he and the Emperor could kill them.

Additionally for Galen's sake, Vader had empire resources to help him with the healing process - as @emperor before me mentioned - Vader only wanted to make it look like he killed him, just to deceive Palpatine (as apart of a double rug pull).

They explained that how Pure Beskar armor is harder to find nowadays and Mando managed to get enough Beskar for a Full Armor rather than mixed with other metals because there wasn't enough. Never got the sense he was Invincible and had nothing to worry about for Mando though since they kept a lot of fight close quarter where he'll be tossed around.

Worth mentioning; while helmets do protect against shrapnel, there was a lot of time in medevil history where you wouldn’t want the helmet on/visor down. Namely in situations where awareness is really important. Wearing a helmet deprives someone of so much information, both sound and visually, that it can put someone in a really bad situation. It’s often why Din is getting shot so often; he just isn’t able to respond to the world around him due to it all being muffled. There’s a reason we generally don’t cover the face that often in modern war gear. Maintaining awareness is far more important than minimal protection, except in the circumstances where protection is really important. A SWAT team only has to worry about clearing a building; so they are probably much more heavily armoured they are dispatched to deal with a single problem, they don’t have to worry about hiking 3-5 miles on patrol. So to me it’s more weird that Mandos put their helmets on so often; and actually Din getting shot to shit makes a lot of sense, because everyone else has a better sense of awareness. Ironically, in replying I’ve learnt something new. All a helmet has to do is deal with heat effectively, blaster bolts just don’t seem as forceful. Just; most armour doesn’t seem capable of stopping a bolt anyway.

Just going to point out: Neither Fett had proper Beskar armor. They had either plasteel or durasteel armor (IDR which off the top of my head. One of the boba fett books where he is a kid and helping Jango maintain his armor after a mission has Jango mentioning not relying on his armor to save him and also specifically explaining that he doesn't scrub his armor clean or polish it because he WANTS the armor to not be shiny and draw attention). Which is nowhere near as capable of dealing with blaster bolts as what actual Beskar is. Din Djarin, going off of even pre-disney lore, could quite literally throw hands with a lightsaber armed opponent, and so long as he caught every attack on a plate, he'd have nothing to fear from the lightsaber itself. He'd still likely get bruised up or possibly even broken limbs from the impacts, but it wouldn't cut through. This is why, if you look at, for example, KOTOR mandalorian armor, it is much more covering overall and also tends to have some protection for soft spots like the throat and underarms. Kotor also has an overabundance of personal energy shielding, precisely because lightsabers and other such implements were a lot more common to encounter, as well as open conflict being generally more frequent in that time frame. Din Djarin surviving stuff is just fine. His suit is full beskar. The armorer's was not. Din is also in a different TYPE of suit from what the Fetts, the Armorer, or the vast majority of mandalorians wear. His suit has better coverage, thicker plates, and is generally just more of a heavy assault suit. It's like comparing someone in full interceptor body armor against somebody with just a soft-body vest. Mandalorian tends to make up for Din's durability by way of having OTHERS around him that he cares for be more at risk. I also agree with the 'no helmets off during combat' thing. They don't even have to show internal shots, just set up some choreography to show off BODY LANGUAGE. You don't need to see their face when their bodies tell the tale, let alone when you also have vocalizations, even things like non-word grunts, able to show off the same things. Taking helmets off is especially stupid in star wars context because mandalorian helmets, unlike the cheap stormtrooper ones, DO NOT restrict field of view.

@@jtnachos16 Dude. It's why I loved Din Jarin with his Helmet on and you can STILL get his expressions.

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@@kevinstumpf6608 Nuclear blood!!!

the problem is that it also kills all impact, the bolt shold still hit like a truck, like bullet plates, you are surviving that, but it will hurt. it used to be like this, resistant, not immune, so, maybe it would get ruined after taking a hit and that zone wont protect you twice, and against a sword, it should only be of help to protect agaist glancing hits, but be done after.

@@SaiTaX_the_Chile_boi It would've work if it was just for fodder laser beams, and when it comes to more experienced fighters you see how they get around it.

That was also a problem in the old books that the concept was introduced which is why I actually was super happy when the clone wars showed mandos in armor that could be killed like anyone else, no more magic Mary sue armor and then Dave got a case of the memberberries and boom they are back to being invincible taking away any and all stakes

I think I’m clone wars the beskar armour could somewhat reflect blaster shots but when it came to lightsabers they did no help blocking the blade, Mandolorian just made Beskar the most powerful armour in the galaxy, seeing how common it was in Clone wars should’ve made Mandolorians unstoppable

"Armor" has always been a little baffling to me in Star Wars. Scenes where it was shown to have saved someone can be probably counted on one hand. Most of the time people survive because the blaster shot went nowhere in the same post code. The rebels arguably had the right idea by not wearing much armor to save costs, it's not like it would've saved them anyways when Stormtroopers come boarding your ship. Funnily enough people are instead much better at shooting Jedi because they actually have to spend a lot of time blocking. Then we got Beskar which can apparently just tank most things? Where's the middle ground?

Bro the stomach hit would be fatal or at least disable her for a week / cause permanent scarring

For real. If getting impaled with a lightsaber truly isn't a death sentence, why aren't the people in question not making sure their opponents are dead? They just do 1 poke and walk away. Don't they want to be sure? I feel like blasters have occasionally gotten the same treatment, where usually someone gets hit and drops dead, but sometimes they survive if the plot needs them to.

@@duckie9327The way they showed it, that shit went straight thru her diaphragm and realistically her chest cavity would poll up with blood and lungs collapse dead within minutes.

@@johnnyringo2670 Yea, or even if it hit the stomach that thing can melt the steel reinforced doors of a spafe ship no way it wont melt the body around the contact area causing mass organ failure

@@johnnyringo2670 Not to mention the wound becoming septic from rupturing the intestines.

They’re always drawn with intent. Should’ve used a different description.

This all started with TCW imo. The writers pussied out when they wrote Order 66 as a microchip thing. And bringing Darth Maul back. It's all one-big-butterfly effect.

@@nickthepick8043 I have no idea how giving a reason to why no clone would question order 66 and darth maul being alive has anything to do with lightsaber deaths

@@ivanlol7153 Because it's all interconnected. We start allowing bad writing for one thing, and it leads to another.

That stormtrooper was a dark souls boss

It was cool the first time and now it's just stupid.

realistically with everything thats been established in star wars reva being stabbed is the only non explainable one in particular when she was stabbed as a child in the jedi temple where she would have no medical attention for hours upon hours maybe even days with no strong enough connection to the darkside to be able to survive

@@Dest66 honestly it's all stupid. A saber stab should be death no matter if you get treated in 10min or 10 hours.

@@JGburneraccount exactly, the medical attention argument is nonsense. ever tried to turn charcoal into a functioning organ again? yup that won't work ever no matter the medical attention

I like that maul came back as well but only because the fact he is badass. It angers me to no end whenever star wars fans call bs over Sabine getting stabbed and surviving, when she was stabbed in a very resilient organ and rushed to the hospital 2-3 mins after. Meanwhile qui-gon was stabbed in the middle area so it most likely would have snapped his spine as well as him laying there for a long while. It's only when Disney does something like this that it's bad because 65% of this fanbase holds an eternal grudge against Disney for the sequels. I get Disney has ruined lightsabers but they certainly justified it here. Sabine was stabbed in an organ that can still function even when heavily damaged and rushed to a medical facility immediately, along with it set during the time of the new republic which means medical technology would have gone pretty far since the clone wars so I can absolutely see how she survived.

Yup. First time was good and now it's just stupid.

Maul should have been the exception, as he was a Sith Lord and Sith are interested in immortality. Reva just walks off implements, Sabine was weak for needing medical attention. 😂

@@Valen-mh9fh Well then again, The Grand Inquisitor's was probably the worst, in a cinematic sense. Like we already know he survives because of what happened in Rebels. He was an ex Jedi and fully fledged force user as well. Just felt SO phoned in when they could have used him more. With Sabine I think it was pretty well placed, it showed her lack of skill and how little she had kept up with training. It was important to the story. I do think there was a better way to go about it instead of stabbing her like all the others, making me roll my eyes at lightsabers, but I do think it was the least stupid of the stabbings.

It's not really sci fi, it's more space fantasy, but your feelings on the matter are valid.

@@auxoltyI’d say sci fi features some sort technological/scientific creation/breakthrough/idea that is explored and provides the main moral dilemma for the characters and story. Star Wars is more about space wizards with sick swords powered by force crystals. It might have futuristic technology as well but that’s not what drives the story. Some of the shows arcs have incorporated more sci fi elements, but the mainline movies aren’t really sci fi.

@@auxolty yeah true doesn’t have to but it often does, either way Star Wars is still not based around or focused on the technology present in the setting.

They probably didn't want to do that since Sabine doesn't have any prosthetics?

@@AC-iz7eh She doesn't have prosthetics because they didn't do this, this is just my suggestion. If they actually did, then they would give her cybernetics

Me: your fired

in legends and as portrayed in the phantom menace, it takes a large effort and usage of the force to cut through doors like that. getting stabbed where sabine was would not kill anybody.. especially with the technology they have. everyone who died to lightsaber stabs before disney was stabbed directly in the heart and lungs. its just a nonissue and a bad comparison

The fact that Vader would even risk his victim not dying is laughable. Dude is gonna make sure you’re dead

I am not sure but I think in Legends the type of species that Grand Inquisitor is have like 2 things? And Reva stabbed only one and not two? I'm not sure, but yeah. It sounds stupid

Sabine surviving? Keep the cope high because there is no way she survived that, her organs were immediately cooked and burned on the inside, she was dead as it gets unless she was rushed to medical care and her organs were replaced immediately with artificial ones. For Kylo, yes but he should have been unconscious and in a lot of pain as he got stabbed in the stomach, where more than one organ presides with a plasma blade hotter than the sun. Dinsey is a joke.

@@CommanderFoxclone1010 Yes, they have 2 stomachs in legends and canon

@@A7XKoRnRocks1 Not necessarily Lightsabers and presumably their heat are contained within the field of the blade and they specifically had the wound be somewhere you could realistically survive

Maul didn’t die of a lightsaber stab. Obiwan cut his saber in half, and when maul finally let go of his hatred, he died on the spot like sion

​@@RevanReborn3950BBY pretty sure obi cut through the saber and then right into maul.

You could use the force to the stop the wound from being to severe. Using the force to reattach your organs and cool down the area.

⁠@@RevanReborn3950BBYdo you think this implies that KOTOR is canon? If it has been shown that one can survive purely on hatred with the dark side does that mean that Darth sion or even Revan are canon?

OR have lore reasons for it Trench survived lightsaber stabs, as far as I'm aware, but it's because his specie is already very prone to faking death and as a separatist admiral he had access to the best medical prosthetics.

Sabine's internal organs would've melted in the fleeting moment the saber was held there

She can literally do a simple swipe and sabin now has a closet casket funeral

All she had to do was move the saber in any direction and Sabin is dead but plot armour and bad writing to the rescue. In the CW we saw characters get saber impaired and pretty sure most if not all of them died like the duchess she gets stabbed and is alive for about 5 seconds

@@awesomeguy9513 Lightsaber can literally melt massive steel door just by holding it inside, when you stab someone with a lightsaber, he should be 100% dead. Maybe someone could say that jedi can use the force or something, but Sabin was not able to use the force in this moment. When someone stabs you with something what is that hot that it can melt massive door, your organs and blood just turn into goulash that I will just take a spoon and eat from you. 😀

Trying to fight Darth Bandon on Korriban without a lightsaber is some real sweat shit.

@@zahillethe7th846 Darth Brandon? He's a sith now too?

Good point and good breakdown.

Yeah I know they say it’s for balance, but screw balance, look if you want balance, then make enemies stay at a distance, make blaster reflect more difficult and blaster fire more potent. However dismembered limbs should be an instant set back, and any stabs should be fatal. In fairness I feel like for the most part fallen order gets it right, other than against the big lightsaber users. Going up against a lightsaber weirder should be scary whatever you have. If they have blasters enemies should be trying to stay at a distance. Light sabers should be balanced by having to close the gap. I personally can understand however how from a lore perspective enemies who have never seen one in use might underestimate the effectiveness when mixed with a jedis skill set. Take Han as that example, someone who would never have seen a Jedi, might stand still. It’s where you need your ai to be smarter. When they see their team being decimated they should be running away, heading behind blast doors, etc. traditional archers would run at the sight of a cavalry charge.

SEE THIS IS ALL IT TAKES

Kylo got immediate medical attention, granted said attention is BS but it’s still attention

I'm still convinced Finn should at the very least should be paralyzed. That man just had a lightsaber go down his spine. His central nervous system is GONE.

@@MataNui. he was unconscious for a while, even with near immediate medical attention

If sabine wasn't at risk of death without immediate medical attention, there is literally no reason for Ahsoka to not chase down and capture Shin/the map. Slicing her hand off and Ahsoka not chasing Shin = stupid

Probably Disney trying to push some kind of recycled 'chosen one' plot where the main character is especially gifted so they don't have to show her training and can jump right into the guts of her story. It's like they forgot the reason we liked Luke and Anakin where simple- we obsevered their entire character grow. We watched both of them train and grow in strength from basically nothing. Both of them made huge sacrifices and struggled a lot(Luke less than his father). Rey just shows up with a deep knowladge of the force and stumbles upon Anakins lightsaber with ease. Then she basically awakens and becomes omnipotent. It's a stupid gimmick used to pump out heros cheap, quick, and mad easy.

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In my own copium/headcanon i believe every jedi has a special force power naturally related to them Ezra can connect with animals, Rey and Grogu can use force healing, Yoda can absorb force lighting, Obi-Wan can mind trick naturally

No It is a thing, but it isn’t something like force choke or force throw that just about anyone can learn It’s more difficult to learn then force lightning, and very very very very very few people could do it And it was a dark side power, not a light side (ironic ik) So Rey definitely shouldn’t have just “had it” But Vader and Ahsoka couldn’t have learned it either Palpatine and (in the books) ben solo would have been some of the few that could have learned it But the whole lore and stuff has been thrown out for a while now It’s so dumb

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You can play Survivor with a perk called Purity that basically makes the lightsaber (and blasters) one-shot. Guess what? It's not very fun. Plus, I've seen mods with full dismemberment - they're way over the top for my taste. Pretty much every trooper getting chopped right in half, or chopped diagonally across their chest. Sure, it's more "real," but it looks ridiculous. Survivor has a good balance with just enough dismemberment to keep it impactful.

Exactly, I was actually playing survivor when listening to this and it was the only part of this video that I completely disagree with for the exact reasons you’ve described

@@Patman494 In Fallout, you can take the Bloody Mess perk for a 5% damage boost along with a guarantee, that deaths always result in the goriest death animation. I think it's boring - it's the same animation every time.

​@@philippeamon7271only applies if you're playing Bethesda "games"

@@AzumarillConGafasBv I was talking about the Black Isle originals. In Bethesda's, I think they gib and dismember, with some variation

There's a dude that makes a video like that. Can't remember the channel name but force ghost quigon is just like "what the fuck, I died and they lived" dude does a good job in his videos.

The channel is called "not Obi-Wan kenobi"

Although that is true for the Sabine case it was most likely a executive decision then Dave’s decision

So Disney?

dont blame Filoni, he is the best thing star wars have now

@@Igoorboy 💯 agreed

Dave works for disney

Because she got stabbed in a non fatal area and literally received immediate medical attention?

Also why did hati slowly pull it out...why not just slash it out, she was in a rush so it makes it even more dumb.

@@JGburneraccount cause she didn't want sabine dead? Sabine dead means Ahsoka immediately chases and catches her, regains the map.

@@JGburneraccount Same reason no character ever does that.

@@daefaron Then why did she stab Sabine?

Finn got the same kind of injury as Obi-Wan in AOTC. Glancing blow that takes someone out of the battle but is survivable.

Kylo was trained by a self taught combatant but never really experienced combat himself. Rey was shown to be an experienced combatant at the start of the movie

I bet you are also fine with a self taught combatant defeating the person that killed countless of those highly trained combatants

@fishdick2006 Kylo was trained by Luke and later by not-Palpatine. Neither of those two fall under the category of "self trained". ALSO HE KILLED LUKE'S OTHER STUDENTS AND COUNTLESS RESISTANCE MEMBERS. I doubt those padawan just let him kill them. Bro's had plenty of combat experience. Which is why it makes even less sense Rey beat him. Even in a 2v1

@@macjj868 Nah, Rey is copying all his answers and putting her own sparkle-glue on top, for her answer. Kylo desperately needed Corpseror Gangrene's unlimited powaahhh, to overwhelm her, and not get killed eventually. Luckily, Rey needed an obviously super-evil super-villain to make herself a Hello, My Name Is Hero. So that worked out conveniently. Infinite magic power is so very useful.

Exactly. It generally doesn't because it would be far too grizzly for the screen, but realistically a stab wound from a loghtsaber would destroy so much of your internal organs you'd die unless you almost immediately got put on full life support. A slash that cuts someone in 2, then it would be doing damage a couple inches around the slash, maybe with force bullshittery you could survive. And stab in the torso? Actually just straight dead, your remaining guts and sloshing around in the cooked soup of the rest of your guts.

Even tho I think Sabine survived due to getting medical help really fast, i do agree 100% with this statement. A bionic hand would have worked as better motivation for defeating Shin Haati (is that how her name’s written?) because she would have as you said, a constant reminder of her failure. Instead it’s “oh, she stabbed me. Welp! Imma get back at her!”