How to Brighten the DDI/AMPCD screens on the WINWING TOPGUN MIP 

Glad to help! See you in the sky

@@Captain.Kartash you're very welcome!

Glad you trusted me with the information. I always laugh when a guy I fly with complains when he has to install a mod to fly with our group. I grind him down over 15 minutes regarding all the winwing, dcs, windows, drivers, graphics etc. That he does without complaints and when he finally takes to 2 minutes it takes to download and install them, many faster an easier than the previous, I remind him that he complaints longer than it takes to just freaking do it, as you said lol

That's awesome man, so happy to have helped

No worries man! I had the same reaction you did but there was only a link to a page with written instructions that were very technical that I knew not too many people could figure out so I made this.

I only encountered one small issue when trying to bring up the controls indicator for helicopters, it would try to render it behind the MFDs. But after some fiddling around with the .lua file that controls the indicator, I got it to show up where I could actually see it again xD@@chromaticmusic

Glad it worked! Hopefully DCS will continue to support this as lots of updates are coming but so far so good!

Outstanding! Glad to be of help. Where you at in the world?

Montreal, Canada.

Cool, I'm on the east coast of USA so maybe I'll see you in The 4ya servers, I go by ITTY

Glad to have helped

Glad it helped you, hope to see you in the sky!

Awesome man, glad it worked!

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Glad it worked for you!

Great video! This worked for me as well. I did need to put the file in binmt to get it to work. Thanks!

@@gregoryanderson73yes this applies to all multi threaded version users.

Awesome!

Absolutely man, by the way I did a really good video on how to use the way to find targets easily you should check it out as well

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@@chromaticmusic I thought the way was just for typing in coordinates automatically? I like to type them in myself because of the UFC being so easy. Using DCS scratchpad it keeps the coordinates even if I did so I don't have to look them up again if Irespawn :) Do you have DCS scratchpad mod?

Trust me, the way is the best tool for doing bomb runs with the jdams. Watch the video if you have the time. It's a huge time saver and the coupling mode with autopilot makes it incredibly easy to fly and find ground targets with ease. There's a how to on how to install it as well on my channel

Yeah, these systems keep on getting bigger. I've bought two other things since this video such as the PTO2 and f16 ICP panels from winwing. Also bought a pimax crystal but after 1 hour, I was like nope, not for me. No sense in Virtual reality when you already have the reality

Glad it worked for you! Keep in mind that the A10c and a few of the other planes are already bright enough so if you switch, just turn it off or make a profile for each. My buddy actually made the ddi in the KA50 blackshark a color screen with the reshade so there's some cool stuff you can do with it if you spend some time

Awesome, glad to have helped

Everyone that has this setup needs this video. I myself was super bummed out after getting it but got lucky and found a guy that had a walk through but not a how to video so I thought I'd help everyone else. You should also check out my video on how to use the way. It will make you super efficient at marking targets and bombs. I'll post a link for you

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@@chromaticmusic I started using The Way about a week ago. It’s such a time saver. Only issue I’ve run into is the first waypoint I create doesn’t get coordinates. My work around is to just select a random point and ignore it.

Awesome man, well hope to see you up in the sky, just make sure you IFF me first

Sure thing bro

Glad it helped man! See you in the sky

Glad to help! Winwing owes me a beer

Hey, so are you referring to simapp pro? I've been having stupid problems with winwing screens lately but I'm not sure it really makes any difference if I switched.

Go with Helios. You can overlay all the Viewports in one setup. You will find that every plane in the game will use the screens in some way. From constant F14 radar display for pilot. A supper crisp F1 radar. A4 radar looks good. @@chromaticmusic

Even Helicopters. My UH-1 Crew Indicator shows up on the right MFD rather than the main screen

Hi Chris, what kinda problems you have? Im about to get those dipslays

@vasilisroukis1108 I'm having so many weird things happen so I need to put up a video

Absolutely!

Funny you should ask that. The MIP works perfect in the A10, F16 and many others without the need to use reshade at all. The funny part is the only aircraft in DCS that needs the brightness mod is the F18 which this MIP topgun setup was made for. Winning definitely should be thanking me for my help as they did nothing to advise people with this very obvious problem.

I'm not sure what's the issue is other than your mask is not the correct size. You may also turn down the sliders to adjust the brightness precisely way you want it. Keep in mind that you don't need reshade on for the 16 and a10 for example. They already have plenty of output from DCS. If that doesn't help, we can always link up on Discord and do a screen share. Let me know

If you haven't installed reshade yet, you won't see the menu. Make sure you watch the videos on how to install and use reshade for DCS. This video is a follow up to that but doesn't go into the level of detail you are asking about and if I tried to explain it here it would be counter productive. There's a video link to it on screen in the video here but just look for how to make dcs look beautiful in RU-vid and you'll see it

By default, the reshade is always on for me so when I jump to the f15 it already looks good so I'm sure both the mfd screens in the 18 and 15 have the same brightness issues

I' gonna try later your workaround! 👍🏼🙂

@@chromaticmusic I'm trying but it doesent work.. the reshade blue menu appears over the game covering the main screen.. if I hit home it shuts down .. if I bring it back with home during the flight it appears again covering the screen..is there something else I have to set?

@@chromaticmusic I'm sorry now it works! :D

It really is only needed for the f 18 as it's just super dim compared to say the a10. But I've still found it really useful for the apache as well. Glad to hear yours works as you need it!

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Hey man, hope this works for you. I had to jump on Discord with someone here to get it to work through screen sharing and he had a totally different setup but it worked. I do agree with your suggestions but some of the people have a totally different setup so it can be really tricky

All you need is to be in the main cockpit view and do a screen shot. Your ddi screens will always be at the bottom regardless of what aircraft your in as long as you set the MFD screens under the main windows monitor settings. Everybody's setup is a bit different and you may need to tweak a few things based on what you use, but it should be fairly straight forward

#1. UI mask top (this would be in white and not affected) #2. Tone map #3. Levels #4. UI mask bottom (this would be the area of the mfds and ddi screens that would be color edited aka brightness)

You'll have to drag these settings in the correct order for them to work

it's the reshade gui.

No, yes, and yes. But you don't need to reinstall it, just add the line to the export.lua

Sorry, I don't understand the question. All things on the system work on multi-player servers and missions as well. The software that comes with winwing does the work for the MFD screens as well as maps the switches and buttons. However for planes like the A10c you can map the buttons to whatever you need.

Here's the link to the reshade installation I learned from. Let me know if this helped! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UGxgD9GNVNw.htmlsi=KTkVMDcHYlVz6O0I

I think it's the same as it simply brightens the exported screens in the black bar, so even if you were running those screen on iPads etc, they should only brighten the mfd screens

Alright, I'll look into it. Thank you!!!@@chromaticmusic

@robertmantell1700 anytime man, if you run into some else you can hit me up on Discord. Itty#9286 or Itty!

It does the same for anything that you can export a MFD screen. Let me know if you run into trouble

@@chromaticmusic thanks! Did it today and awesome!

Gimp is free and if you have any other editors they would work as well. Just needs to be the exact same frame size and full black and white. I mentioned this in detail

Do you have anti virus or malware software? You wouldn't believe how bad those apps can cause issues with dcs related problems. Remember that there's a ton of open source apps and mods with dcs that are considered by virus protection programs and get in the way all the time

@@chromaticmusic No antivirus or malware here. This is a pure sim installation. The only mod I have is the A4 Skyhawks. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@michaelkphoto8344 so here's the deal, my system with the MIP setup is now crashing track IR is the winwing screens are on at boot up just after installing a 4090. If I turn them after I run track ir then I can open the simapp and select the layout for the mfds. The reason I'm telling you this is because winwing is not the greatest software nor is track ir, they can continue to mess with the other so I'd remove everything you don't need from the usb ports and see if anything changes. If that doesn't help, then create a new administrator account in your computer to see if a preference file is messed up. Also there's a repair Lua file in the simapp program that can be helpful. But just start with removing the winwing setup from your system and boot DCS and see if it crashes. Then, one by one add a panel and launch dcs till you see what's causing the problem. It's impossible to troubleshoot soup that blended together. If one ingredient is bad, the whole soup is bad. You gotta pull it all apart and isolate the issue. Never know, could be a bad USB cable or even hub, or port. Good luck and I hope this was helpful

@@chromaticmusic Looks like there is no way around it, will have to go your route and go through the whole process of isolating the problem. Thanks! 🙏🙏

@michaelkphoto8344 yeah, I'm going throught on another computer as well... why oh why do we do this to ourselves for the sake of a game

I'm happy to help, but I'm not sure what you mean by high. Mine are mounted on the h6 dof rig with some wood extensions that I had to cut. But I'm not sure this is what you're asking. I have a video of my setup if you look under my videos if that helps. But let me know what I can do

@chromaticmusic I mean the mfds and the Hud display are T shaped rather than + shaped. Yours is set up to look more like an F18 panel, but out of the box those mfds are incorrectly located 3 inches lower. They are even incorrectly displayed on winwings website too. I'm just interested in learning how you got them correctly located, that's all.

@utley I think your problem is that you need to set the screen up as portrait not landscape in the screen settings in windows

@@chromaticmusic im not talking about the pictures, Im talking about the physical MFDs attached to the HUD and UFC controller.

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I can say that no, it won't. At least it didn't for me due to how VR exports screens and how winwing does use VR to assign its screens. If you get it to work let me know, I'd love to see that work

@@chromaticmusic Well I just spoke to a guy in the WInwing facebook group who said he got the screens to be brighter in VR with reshade 6.0.1 and doing a mask. He said he installed the reshade files to both the DCS/bin folder and the DCS/bin-mt folder and told reshade installer to use both Directx 9,10,11 and Openxr. I have not tried it yet.

@bmgengraving that's great to know, hope it works for you. Some are even reporting that reshade is not working at all anymore but I know that's not the case because mine still works. People need to know that you have to reinstall reshade for every dcs update. It's a pain but really only takes a moment to do because it defaults to the same directory so you just hit next a few times and it's done

@@chromaticmusic I did get reshade 6.0.1 to work in VR with openXR. I also can use it to brighten the MIP displays but making a mask like you do in the video doesn't work as intended it seems. maybe I did it wrong. But using that UImask in the textures folder cause the entire mask to be visible in VR headset. So I deleted the mask then just used the 4 selections in the reshade settings window in the same order as you did. This does cause the mirrored image on the desktop of the VR to change but nothing in the headset changes at all. Since you made your mask in 2D mode I would be curious if you just tried using that version and using VR and see if the image in the VR headset changes or if you see the mask like I did. Just to be clear on install. I installed reshade 6.0.1 to BOTH bin folders for single thread and multithread and selected the directx 10,11,12 API and checked the Openxr option in the install window then selected the chosen effects packs which I do not know which are best. Let me know if you try and how it goes for you.

@bmgengraving excellent troubleshooting man! If you saw my video on pimax vs winwing you'd understand why I'll never fly in VR again. It caused so much havoc that I simply lost all hope for anything other than my configuration. Way too many things to go wrong and only the people with a setup like mine can understand. I love it when others chime in and say they have the same rig and they don't have any issues while they also don't have half the stuff I do. Either way, super happy you figured it out.

It's a difficult thing to troubleshoot without having a full view of your setup. I know with mine it took days to configure and lots of trying different things. See if you can do a walk through of your setup and send me a link so I can see what is happening.

@@chromaticmusic like how the screenshot looks? Im not sure program you used but I just have paint. Or what do you mean by walkthrough? Have you had DCS crash? I'm wondering if it's a video card thing too. But it didn't start until I installed reshade

@Joshua Scholl a video of what you're doing when it crashes. It could be a simple thing such as missing a set of forgetting the copy the information into the right file or folder. I tried to I stall the way v2 and it didn't work for me and there's no instructions on how to install it. I did this video because it did t work for me either and although I did figure it out, there's a billion variations on individual builds, software, hardware, Anti virus and malware software that can absolutely be the cause. I know this for a fact because my friend had same issues as you described and it was a malware program blocking access to the Javascript. I'd be happy to walk you through it on Discord if that helps. Let me know

@@chromaticmusic sure thing. That would be great. Herky#5599

@@joshuascholl5280 I'll be sure to friend you and do my best to help you out. I'm ITTY#9286

I’m guessing you were searching for a solution that until this video, nothing worked. So, yeah, I’ll take I love you for my efforts, glad it worked for you!

@@chromaticmusic Made the game playable again with my peripherals. ED needs to bake this fix in somehow

@XwhiskeysX totally know what you're talking about, I really started to have "fun" in dcs just after learning how to mark targets and take out an entire airfield by myself using the way. Truly a 0 to hero app

Haha

You're very welcome! I was super bummed out when I got the setup and there were no ways of changing the screen brightness. I was very much considering sending the entire unit back due to that but I found the right guy that had the solution but didn't make total sense to me. So after doing it, I decided I should make a full step by step guide so others could do this much easier. See you in the sky! ITTY#9286 on Discord

I guess I can see that in the a10c, but works great in the 15e and the 16 as well.

It is strange man, I used to have everything work from the start but due to windows updates, dcs updates, lack of track IR updates I've had to figure mysetup startup process many times. It's really easy for some but I've got 6 screens and tons of USB gear so it's lucky it ever works.

@@chromaticmusic hey thanks for the answer👍 i figured it out, i did something wrong with the „set scaling and layout“ option in the sim app pro software.