How to Bring NI-CAD Drill Batteries Back to Life & Make Them Charge Again - Ryobi 

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Smoking near batteries is not really a great idea.

I never thought this video would get more than a 1000 views let alone 1.5 million. If I did I would have done a better job. Maybe I should make a new one that answers all the common questions people have.

Awesome deal!

I'm a non smoker, I've chosen that course of action. This creator chooses to smoke & it's his fucking business not yours, you judgemental turds. I really resent do gooders who think they need to supervise others on how they should live their lives.

@@charleswalter2902 I agree, he's sharing knowledge and obviously cares about the environment. We need more people like him.

Haters will be haters there’s nothing you can do, it makes them feel big to try to make others feel small. They need to get a new hobby.

Yes, it's great just have someone chilling out helping people out while having a cig, it doesn't matter.

I wonder if my 50 amp battery charger/car starter would do the job?

Sweet! I need a job like that.

Thanks, a lot of people didn't seem to like it.

You don't even need a massive battery or welder. A plain old 12VDC wall wart, or laptop power brick, etc (though you need current limiting resistor to keep the PSU running if it's a regulated type with an undervoltage shutdown protection circuit) connected to a good sized capacitor bank will allow zapping with plenty of current to burn through the dendrites shorting out the cell. Obviously not everyone has a "good sized capacitor bank" lying around (lol) but if you're going to go the route of zapping cells, then realize that you're going to have to keep doing it and it may be worth the bother to make a capacitor bank to do so, so you aren't trudging out to where a car battery is every time. Then again a sane person would just buy a new battery.

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Yes a bendini would work. I don't have one of those though.

Bendini magnet motor

TheCarnager can you do a video on how to bring your battery back so that you can charge it again

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I was wondering what might work if a guy didn't have a welder. I'll try the battery charger. Thanks for this tip.

Do you think a quick jokt of 110 volts would be too much?

WAIT, STOP, NO THATS BAD! Don't use an A/C power source if that's what you mean. The chances of having an explosion will be far greater. Its like trying to jump your dead car battery off from your neighbors running car backwards. Instead of negative to negative and positive to positive, you either have a brain fart or you just made a one time careless mistake and hook it up backwards. It will probably internally fry or explode both batteries, spraying battery acid onto every piece of uncovered skin on yours and everone else in the areas entire body, damage both cars entire electrical system, including the ECU, otherwise known as the vehicles electronic brains, $$$. You don't ever want jump a battery off without a full respect for every step of the procedure. If you accidentally or otherwise use alternating current, or in other words, the power that comes out of your home's wall outlets, in this already highly risky little hack, it will probably least of all do permanent or irreversable damage to an otherwise salvageable battery pack. It has the potiential to take your freakin face all the way off, and probably burn your house down too, and just radiating collateral damage from there. There are no words to describe this god awful blood bath nightmare. There is just no way to even begin to really imagine the horrible consequences and regret. It has happened many many times before, and will continue to happen to many many more in the future. The danger is super real. This hack, working with batteries, or working with electronic and electricity period requires training, and an understanding, and the respect on a level that most will never know anything about for the life and death dangers involved. Saftey has to never be neglected, because something will happen eventually to even the safest and best professionals and practioners in the business. So please, do not even attemp this without having a good working knowledge of basic electricity. Ask someone to help you do this if you don't have total confidence in your knowledge and abilities. Frugal prepper says more than a few times that even under the best circumstances, there is a real possibility for things to really bad, really quick. That is real talk my friend. I speak from practical experience. 3 years college to be a federally certified aircraft mechanic, A&P certified. I maintained 5.0 GPA every time from day one to graduation. I graduated valedictorian, I had extensive studies in electronics and electricity, and I've got over ten years expeience on the job as a licensed professional specializing in electronics and electrical systems. I have seen some accidents on the job. And I have seen people lose theIr lives while at work doing the same thing that I had been doing all week. I don't talk about it. I only say now because I can't overstress how the danger we're looking at here is the very same seriousness. When I consider the people that I respect and that are an inspiration to me because of there knowledge and level of expertise, I can easily admit that in contrast between them and myself, I am like a baby that don't know jack. I have had the privilage of working with and learning from some amazing people. Not many, but some, very few would I actually say really they do have that broad and solid understanding of the craft and can manipulation electro-mechanical energy that our modern state of the art technology is baised on. It is more like devine magic than scientific fact. There are many aspects of it that the human race still doesn't understand. Even some basic things such as fundanental laws. Even Tesla almost electricuted himself to death at least once. hat anything else I know of. not everything by a long shoot, but far more than the other 98% percent of those in this feild, what electo-machanical energy. Be cautious and us descretion when duplicating DIY projects seen all over youtube. But going on with this refresh hack, I'm not positive what Frugal said about the voltage he was using in the video for sure without going back, I think those small welders usually run around 17 volts DC. Therorically you want to swap his current value over to your volts because that value is around 100. I think you said 110volt to be exact. Likewise, his volts value will now be your current or amperage value. So, you will use something like 110 volts DC power source with a maximum current output value of 17amps. The value of the Voltage and current variations are directly related when the intention is to maintain the same power output. In this instsnce, because our load or what ever you applying this power to, the battery to be refreshed, is the same either way. When the load is changed things get alot more complicated. The load or resistance in a curcuit also directly affects the power consumption in a electrical curcuit. If all you want to do is revive a battery pack that is similar to what Mr. Frugal shows, then that is why the we can just swap these two major values and still come out with the same end result in essentially an identical way. The fact that the voltage is much higher makes no differece because you are also now using far less current. Same, same. You understand? The current is reduced according to it's relation to the increased voltage you are using. The 110 volts DC that you proposed is actually the easy conversion to calculate bucause you actually just swap those values and you will still be acheiving the same rusulting output or total energy or power. It is the energy being expended by that spark you see when you make contact with the positive and negative terminals of your battery you want to refresh with the positive and negative wires of your power supply you are useing if thats easier to understand in simple terms. It's measured in watts or joules. In addition you must further consider that Frugal says that he is used his power supply turned down to the low setting. By setting it to low power, the current is probably being limited to some reduced value while the voltage remains constant and unchanged. Maybe he can elaborate on some of the questions about his specifics in another comment or follow up vid. If I were to attempt this. And I still really don't know if I would. At least in the same manner as shown. I would gave to make it a little safer by doning it remotely with some shielding. Expect an explosion and try to at least make it a controled explosion with saftey measures in place. It's the same as Russian Rullet in every way the way we saw in the video. I like it. It's really smart. I didn't know it could be done, but Mr. Frugal seems to be a pretty sharp fellow and knows the facts about the things that he is talking about. There is alot to he said for that. Especially with all the ignorance that's going around on youtube. I learned a valuable trick here, but I would leave much less to chance. Another thing too as kind of after thought but deffinatly worth mentioning. All those batteries have a little currcuit board inside them that should probably be removed before you try to zap it. It is the battery charge management curcuit. You need that to function properly in order for your charger to begin and end the charging process after you have refreshed them and I suspect that frugal prepper may have damaged the one inside his battery pack that he nevr could get to start charging. Have fun learning by experimenting on your own. When we stop learning we stop living. Be safe and enjoy!

Lots of talking. I had 2 flat batteries. No possibility to charge. Drill didn't worked at all. Connected 2 12 volt bat to make 24 volt. Connected the ryobi 18 volt for approx 10 seconds. They worked again. Showed 19 volt and they charging again. Much easier and save.

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If you really want to learn something, teach It to someone.

I am actually using it right not to steal some of the good cells to fix a battery for a friend.

That was my intention, but I goofed up while videoing it. I never expected this video to be very popular or I would have made sure I did it again with another bad battery. Yes it will work on any NiCad battery as long as it doesn't have any circutry inside of it, for regulation, temperature sensing, or charge indicators on battery. I am repairing a Bewalt 18V right now for a friend that has 2 bad cells and it has no internal circuitry, but I don't know if there is more than one type of model of Dewalt 18V nicad battery.

Im guessing the welder is on DC? Might be good to tell in your video

It better be on DC

Thanks. I think your cool too.

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What about the Fathers?

Who is Sheldon?

Sheldon is not a Nerd. He is a fictional character on TV that is nothing like real Nerds.

Keeping it Real!

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What about when you screw up lithium ion batteries touching wrong terminaals

Thanks. You have some good stuff you your channel too. I subbed ya and will have to do some binge watching when I get off work!

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It doesn't matter if it is AC or DC as long as you get a jolt of voltage to blow the whiskers off the annode and cathode. If you have good 18V batteries you could hook two or three of them in series to blow the whiskers off of the bad one.

Since every welder I have used is very adjustable, it would be nice to know the setting he was using, so we don't go hog wild and hit it with ten times the amount he used, with catastrophic effect.

you might try checking the thermal fuse.

Dude get to the point dam i just about does d off good idea but clean that garage out look some what profesinal

Anything around 24-30 or so volts should do it. Two car batteries hooked in series would do it.

What about two wires directly connected to a 110v socket? Can this surge type be AC or it has to be only DC?

JP Blitz Only DC

Thank you hey you. Possible disaster avoided! :-)

Craig, the video does not clarify what type of current needs to be applied. Hey you was kind enough to clarify, that is a good fellow human. You instead mock. Craig, you are the moron.

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It is small 120V Welder on the LOW setting. It should be 50AMP AC output on the low settings.

doesn't matter how high the current is set to. Its the voltage you need to be careful of.

That's a great idea. That would definitely work.

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I'm gonna try that. Nothing else has worked.

u could use a large car charger 100- 200 amps

At what amp setting? 2, 10, or 50 are my charger's choices.

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Really?!? I have three of the 14volt Dewalt that have this same problem and one is the extra long life battery, and only after two or three years. But a few months ago I found an old 12volt ryobi I had forgotten I had with two batteries and a flashlight in the kit. I took and put both batteries on charge and guess what. They both took a charge and they were bought in the 90's. I have the 18volt Ryobi now that is getting to where not lasting as long as first did, but I have had them since around 2004. I think the kit has been well worth the $150 for the drill, recip saw, skill saw, and flashlight it came with.

You still use ni cad rc batteries?

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yeah replacing the cells, especially with NiMh is better for sure.

Thanks, glad it helped.

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I've been doing this for quite a long time. I've done it with coin cells, alkaline cells, Ni-Cad cells, and zinc carbon cells. It seems to work best with Ni-Cad cells. I had a coin cell EXPLODE once. The danger is if you apply power for too long, the cells/battery will get HOT. If it gets hot enough inside the cells, the pressure inside the cell will get so high that they can EXPLODE. My Process: 1) Try to charge. 2) Measure individual cells voltage with DMM on dc range. 3) Those that measure anything close to what they should (1.2 vdc for Ni-Cad cells) will likely take a charge. 4) Those that are zero volts dc are most likely the "bad" cells. 5) Next I measure the "bad" cells DMM on low ohms range. 6) Most likely they will be shorted and measure close to zero ohms. 7) I zap the shorted cells with a high current DC voltage close to the normal voltage of the cell. Be sure to connect observe correct polarity (plus to plus and minus to minus). 8) Wait a bit before continuing (feel if cell is getting HOT). You do not want cells to EXPLODE. 9) I repeat steps 2-8 until cell no longer measure zero volts across the cell. 10 Go on to next cell. The best voltage source is a high current DC power supply that allows you to adjust the voltage and current limits for the output. Next best are variable low voltage welders and 6/12/24 volt car battery chargers.

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@@frugalprepper dead right

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Get a second battery that has a charge and jump it from that.

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I thought the same thing! LOL I doubt using a welder will fix a battery and in my opinion, it's dumb to even attempt this!!

Jason I agree Jason.

@@stevenA44 it works. I'm not sure you need so much power to do it though because i just use another fully charged battery. Works exactly the same.

Terry C. Well I’d say dumb is speaking out on a public forum about a subject you clearly know nothing about...the welder isn’t the key it’s just a source of a reasonable electric shock ...this guy is absolutely right .this works almost every time and id also say that dumb is probably you standing in line to buy new batteries like a real tool of a consumer who loves throwing their money away and making some Chinese executive rich beyond imagination ....obviously you can’t trust every looser that decides to post a RU-vid video but they guy told you he lost the footage showing the proof that the battery was dead...the welder is the most effective and recommended source of electric shock to correct dead battery syndrome ,but you can use another charged battery or a battery Charger ,or jump box ...laptop charger with a light bulb wired in line to reduce current ,but you go ahead and call it dumb and spend your money foolishly...I have done this myself by simply putting the battery in the charger and plugging and unplugging was rapidly to correct the issue

Just keep both wires in one hand so if you slip you don't get mains voltage through you heart.

@@frugalprepper Why didn't I think of that....D'ohhhh ;)

I wish I lived that close to Lowes!

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Just take some Aspirin and it will be okay.

That clamps, shields, wire, extension cords. Sounds like a lot of work.

FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden. Depending on the brand, u'll save anywhere from $50 - to $100 ! Is that a lot of money ?

With all the hamburgers and cigarettes, this big boy can stand any explosion...

Don't be an ass.

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Wow! That's Funny

Please 'splain how.

Wait, didn't you already say this in another comment?

jcweb I have no idea.

Avoid that EZ bloke like the plague...pure marketing scandal. If their info is so great then why have they loaded up pages worth of propaganda on countless bogus websites so the legitimate ones are several pages down the search? They've perfected (technologically) the old techniques used in mail order before the internet...selling worthless information. The age old adage applies: if someone throws enough sh*t some of it will stick. Don't get caught in the crossfire!

FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden ... 4 a person that says things like "sounds like a lot of work" u just took the time 2 reply 2 something that u need not had to, & accomplish the same thing !!! Wtf, y answer at all ?

Leny Williams NONE of your Damn business!!

Eric Vickery Thanks man, nearly hit the back button

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yea it was hard to watch without cringing and facepalming

Robert

Can this guy yack,takes forever to get to the point!!

Sounds just like my other video on Lithium batteries.

Glad you liked it!

Bacon is great for you.

I learned it wasn't the bacon that was making me fat and lost 50lbs and I ma still loosing, and I can eat all the bacon I want.

Nope it's my wife's garage technically.

FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden Bacon is good for u, in moderation, NOT large amounts everyday.

Not in moderation. All you can eat.

ya, I so appreciate learning stuff from guys like this but OH MAN....some of these guys simply do TOO MUCH chit chat thru out there videos

Thanks for your feedback

Thanks for watching!

Yes some Ni-Cad packs have circuitry in them for on battery Voltage Level Meters, Charging Voltage Signature Detection and Temperature detection. Thanks for the comment.

Jon Jonson NONE of your Damn business!!

That´s some serious negativity coming from you mister.. Why do you complain so much because someone is sharing something he do in his garage? Do you have a problem with that? Why are you on youtube and why do you look at clips you don´t like? Stop playing the victim. Take control of these feelings. If no one would have taken any trial and error risks in the past do you think we would be in the society we see today? There need to be different approaches. Peace man!

Well said Ola K & Bruce Peck, I mean well written/typed. I’d hate for Jon Jonson to attempt to publicly humiliate me as well by ridiculing either my misuse of vocabulary or grammar... Jon, if you’re as versed in batteries as you claim to be then why watch informative videos explaining anything concerning batteries ???? I’m going to guess either because you’re not as “in the know” as you’d like everyone to believe & or you watch them in hopes that you catch some insignificant trivial mistake that you can rub their nose in. I can only imagine how sad and lonely you must be. Try not to speak to and or treat others in the same manner in your day to day life and I’m sure things will get better for you. Either way I truly appreciate the info I learned from watching this video. I’m sure that after I resurrect one or two batteries It’ll become like second nature to me (I hope). Thank you Frugal Prepper’s Garage & Garden!! Keep doing what you’re doing, which is helping us out with info that we’d otherwise have to pay for or just go without.

Jon Jonson, I've watched people on RU-vid present subjects in various formats. Some of them I like, others, not so much. If I watch something I think is wrong, because I consider myself a SME, I don't attack. I just don't watch their videos anymore or recommend them. It's difficult to criticize what someone is presenting when I don't have my own videos to back up my claims. Perhaps, that's way you should do. Grab a hundred different Ni-Cad tool batteries, tear them all apart on you video and PROVE TO THE WORLD that there's no circuitry or processors in them! Or, you could shut up and move on. Just sayin'. And, for the record, I have the same 24 hours in a day that you do, and I didn't mind the 6 minute preamble. Not everyone out there has studied this or taken these battery packs apart. You have a fast forward on your controls, or maybe you didn't know that since it would take previous time to find it and hit that button.

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Ahh man I was cracking up the moment I read your reply to kasra

The Welder I am usign is a little 120V AC Stick Welder on the 50AMP setting. The charger is a 24V DC output adapter.

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It won't hurt to give it a shock, but if the cell is completely flat then it has probably gone into reversal, which is a chemical change in the cell that can't be un done