How to Buffer Coco Coir for Hydroponics

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@Secret_Moon Год назад

Your channel is without a doubt the best hydroponics channel I've seen on youtube. Very accurate and scientific information, going deep on the fundamental, as well as a lot of hand-on practical approaches. Keep up the great work.

@ardythhundley6742 Год назад

I must agree

@blackswansystem Год назад

I also agree 🎉

@graemecunningham4280 Год назад

Not dry for me, an excellent video that answers everything you want to know around the coco growing media.

@marcjtdc Год назад

I play this at 1.75x speed. When you go back to regular speed it seems in slow motion. He talks very slowly.

@farbenhimmel4921 Год назад

Thank you for the explanation. The Coco Bricks i bought were totally insane. EC of 5500. Salty af... Is this Buffer Solution for Bricks or for Coco Peat that´s loose in a Bag ? I think Coco Peat from a Bag isn´t completely dry and has more weight than the Bricks that are dry as dust. PS: Great Channel 😎 Greetings from Switzerland.

@ozbudgaming7341 Год назад

Hey mate, any reason you didn’t add in any magnesium sulphate?

@superkillr Год назад

Wondering if that paper covered that. Magnesium has been in all the cocktails I've seen to buffer.

@keyphabenyisrael3219 6 месяцев назад

Hello, would you mind telling me how much one of these 30 litre bags of ready to use coco peat cost? Here in the states, a 50 litre bag of loose UNbuffered coco coir costs $35 USD. I wish I could find the equivalent to that Pine Gro Coco Peat over here!

@stevenbrown6606 Год назад

it explains why a lot of hydroponic setups fail...good work!

@hcmassey2 Год назад

Thanks for this information. It may explain why I have been having such a hard time growing things in Coco coir. It would be helpful if you could include a link to the paper you referenced.

@hortihorteae Год назад

In Malaysia, our fertigation farmers are doing this. We're using CaN and MgS with 2:1 ratio. 2 kg CaN and 1 kg MgS mix in 600 gallon of water. Then dripped into cocopeat about 2L/H. Every start of the planting season and once a month we drip it.

@loghomebuilder407 Год назад

Thanks for this video. You've mentioned "hydro-grade coco" often but I didn't have access to it. Now I know what to do. Thanks again! (Utah, USA)

@maximosh Год назад

I bought a block of 'unwashed' coco years ago.. The main issue was it contained a high amount salt 1200ppm. One of the occupations of islanders is to find coconuts floating on the sea to earn a living, so that's probably how the salt came to be there. The plants had burning, no matter what i did, so I always get the pre-buffered/washed coco for seedlings now. Pre-buffering of clay pebbles is sometimes necessary too, as they can be extremely alkaline. My technique is to add 10mls concentrate of H2SO4 or HCl to 6 litres of water to 5kg of pebbles in a 10L bucket and let them soak 4 days. Then tip out the buffer and replace it with tap water for 24 hours. Works a treat and never get any PH drifting after that.

@Tubayuno 10 месяцев назад

By pebbles do you mean leca?

@DanOffGridInWyoming 5 месяцев назад

Most places where they grow coconut trees the don't have access to fresh water so they wash it in the nearby sea.

@Maghhh Год назад

Damn interesting man! I would never had guessed that coco attracted positive ions like that. Thanks for sharing.

@daallaad Год назад

We had a bad batch of the pinegro 'pre buffered' stuff that had some crazy high EC run off .. something to be cautious of

@roywarriner8441 9 месяцев назад

Washing with hard water should do the job without additives. It's calcium and magnesium ions that make water hard. Any deep well or spring water from a limestone aquifer will be hard water.

@rolandoberdote9363 Год назад

Hi , is the 5.5 kilograms of coco wet or dry ?

@GenericVideoWatcher Год назад

Wouldnt dolomite be a far cheaper way of achieving this, rather than adding calcium nitrate? If you are just going to rinse it all out at the end anyway.

@jaycweingardt11 Год назад

I have been using blocks of compressed coco, washed and ph adjusted but I have still been getting bud end rot on some of my tomatoes I traced the cause to calcium deficiency and had tried many things with my nutrient solution but still get it I will give this a try but it sounds promising

@dmo848 4 месяца назад

Try adding recharge for that rott

@wrmaldonado Год назад

Do you need to buffer coconut coir if you're going to mix it with compost and organic fertilizers? Like for outdoor gardening and container gardening?

@959leo Год назад

hi sir...i have a doubt Why your not using magnesium nitrate with calcium nitrate for buffering? Is there any cons for not using magnesium nitrate?

@MikeParentLeap Год назад

Hoocho, if you have to rehydrate a brick of compressed CoCo, do you use plain water or can we hydrate with the CN solution. TIA.

@Hoocho Год назад

You’ll need to wash it first so hydrate with water soak a little and drain. Then go again with solution.

@gaijinozi7002 Год назад

U will have all ya local blazers after your Coco now they know we're it's all going

@tjevarts9525 Год назад

"... Sorry about that 😂" haha!

@bensiebarraca Год назад

Can you reuse the calcium nitrate soup after using to buffer another batch of coco coir?

@Hoocho Год назад

I wouldn’t, it would be contaminated with potassium and sodium

@MouldySponge Год назад

As awesome as coco peat is I don't think you can call coco peat environmentally friendly, as the amount of resources used in washing out all the salt and processing it is intense! Also working conditions in the places that process it look absolutely terrible and must be taking a toll on the workers health (notice that the workers in the video are not even wearing masks and are probably breathing in a lifetime of coco dust particles every single day. Doesn't really seem like a very ethical product, I think thats a lie we tell ourselves to justify buying such an amazing media. No hate towards your advice here, its amazing advice, but these days coco has almost tripled in price and I'd rather look at cheaper and more sustainable alternatives.

@patrickbutler1715 Год назад

You'd also gotta wonder what native environment was altered to plant coconut trees just like palm sugar plantations. If you start talking carbon footprint coco would surely have a high footprint in anywhere but the region it is grown.

@kennethbetts3557 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for all your great videos. If I reuse my coco coir a second or third year, should I re-buffer the coir with the calcium each year?

@dmo848 4 месяца назад

Yes.

@theNorixius Год назад

Ahh the Bunnings bucket... I've heard the tales of this bucket and its glorious aura but am yet to bask in it myself, you truly are a man of culture. (also really enjoying your channel mate, got me from absolute beginner to slightly less of a beginner so far and will continue watching every vid

@romelpalmes2235 Год назад

Damn no wonder why I can't find any more of that coco peat from Bunnings you have been buying all the stock.

@rebeccaspratling2865 Год назад

😂

@SnifterRoux 8 дней назад

So for those of us who use compressed bricks, after hydrating and washing the coco 1st and squeezing out the excess water do we now weigh 1.5kg of this newly hydrated coco coir to every 100g of Ca(NO3)2 or 1.5kg of the original dry compressed weight to every 100g of Ca(NO3)2? 4.5kg compressed brick makes around 60L-65L 4.5kg of hydrated and squeezed coco coir is about 15-18L

@dennisshoemaker2789 Год назад

LOL the start... Sorry ... Great information here. I didn't even realize that you needed to do anything to the coco. Thanks for sharing this info with us.

@ricardo-iw9sq Год назад

I thought the whole idea with hydroponics was soil less media and used a form of block to hold the plant and then just water, could you not use grass clippings or staw or Hay, or am I just looking at the wrong idea.

@DavidDouglasToth Год назад

All that stuff would rot or mildew much more readily then coco coir.

@ericaarseth1139 Год назад

If using the coir to build potting mix (not hydroponics) is the buffering still advised? Seems like it would bc those plants need calcium just as much as in hydroponics.

@Lankathilaka 9 месяцев назад

@hoocho What are the best best hydroponic solution that you can buy in Australia?

@Irateit3 Год назад

Run a drain to waste system and never worry about buffering or lockout issues

@GEOsustainable Год назад

The incredibly high cost of such a ready resource is why I don't use coco coir. It is way overpriced, and it is imported. And it is harvested to the detriment of local environments, although recovered from monocultures already created. Monocultures, as we know are bad. Not going to help them. Pine needles are far superior to coco coir, so a bonus. And, there is plenty of it, without hurting local ecosystems...it literally is laying on the ground and left over from logging. No way PEAT is renewable, and getting scare due to over harvesting by home gardeners. You should try a product called GLEE. Made in the USA, which is likely 90% of your audience. Love your channel. I reengineer most of what you show, as you do have great ideas. Keep them coming.

@patrickbutler1715 Год назад

Is there such a product produced from pine needles ? How do they counter the acidifying nature of pine needles ?

@surgeinc1 Год назад

Pine needles!?! Great tip. Going to look it up as I live in a pine tree forest. I hate buying anything wrapped in plastic.😊

@iamhe981 Год назад

I bought hydro coco but still got BER. How can I rejuvenate last years used Coco please mate?

@959leo 6 месяцев назад

So if we are making nutrient solution which is in other video should we reduce half of nitrocal when we are using this cocopeat which is buffered for the first time?

@ZiroOne-bk1dw 10 месяцев назад

based on the paper you have mentioned, untreated coco has about 33, 14 and 3.5 cmol/kg K, Na and Ca respectively which are about 50 meq/100g coco altogether. I've heard before that CEC of coco is 50-100 meq/100g depending on the source. So the rest 0-50 meq/100g is of other cations. The recommended calcium nitrate is 100g/1.5kg coco which is about 80 meq/100g coco. Using this data and that ~70 and ~90% reduction in K and Na after buffering, the CEC of the sample can be modeled and calculated. numbers are logical "if" that 100g calcium nitrate is anhydrous not tetrahydrated. so which one? anhydrous? I ask this because tetrauhydrated is more commonly available that anhydrous?

@DanOffGridInWyoming 5 месяцев назад

So you're the one who keeps buying up all the coco peat. No wonder I can never find it.

@gymaddict7875 9 месяцев назад

How often should I change the coco if I'm growing strawberry

@psilocyborg4775 5 месяцев назад

Once I've transplanted, do I water with nutrients straight away for hydro or wait until it needs water as it is already hydrated?

@danny34867 Год назад

I’m a bit new to this buffering myself stuff as I’ve always bought buffered coco coir, I’ve got plenty of calcium nitrate so that’s no problem but why am I seeing other video’s adding magnesium nitrate?

@derhaluter6069 Год назад

Interesting stuff, just at the right time (going to build Dutch Bucket system with coco this year). What I am wondering is the amount of Calcium nitrate in the products we use is ~25%. Shouldn't we quadruple the 100g per 1.5 kg?

@GEOsustainable Год назад

The best answer to your question is to talk to a local farmer in your zone, if there are any local farmers left. I live in a farming community, and they know how local factors as good as any scientist.

@jamess1787 Год назад

"sorry about that" Top notch Chad. Keep on! Your channel is much more useful then what they're doing with their coco in their moms basement. 🍻

@Hoocho Год назад

🤣

@jamess1787 Год назад

@@Hoocho 🤜🤛

@timturk1899 Год назад

And the sellers of the Coco coir, bricks especially..?! Never even a tip on buffering..?! I've just been soaking Coir bricks in hot water, then add some Cal-Mag when expanded, but still plenty of water present to mix it around. I then let it sit in that water for at least 2 days, then rinse out all excess Cal-Mag water. I should have rinsed it out before adding Cal-Mag for a few days..?! Surprised I got some of it right, lol. I mix it with Peat, EWC, and Perlite/Pumice, Dolomite Lime, etc, and no problems yet!👍💯

@croakingembryo Год назад

Just a heads up, it's pronounced coir, not cior...

@melodylyons4631 5 месяцев назад

so you dont need to add the calcium nitrate to your nutrients?

@fixingprawn Год назад

If I lived in your area i would camp out the night before at the big box hardware ;)

@ausieking Год назад

You could almost say you’re in love with the coco 😁😉

@alejandrotaudil3689 Год назад

Thanks! very informative!! will keep it in mind when start my hidrophonic system

@ishvarlaltandel2523 11 месяцев назад

Sir just one question after appling calcium nitrate and keep it for 36 hours then we must wash cocopeat with RO water...

@Hoocho 11 месяцев назад

Any water mate

@littleredridinghood5092 8 месяцев назад

your video was recommended by Ai

@outcast6187 Год назад

Great stuff, you should do a video on the various options of medium that are ok to good to use for hydroponics.

@CriticoolHit Год назад

I can't wait for someone to put together a super-slide compilation.

@johnmcginnis5201 Год назад

Anyone have a link to the paper hoocho cites?

@DM-sc4zy Год назад

100g CalN per 1.5 kg seems a bit too much... I would not call this process environmentally friendly at all. from now on I'd rather use perlite.

@jasonking852 Год назад

Yeah I am over Coco as well. Getting BER on buffered Coco with my tomatoes is doing my head in. Can't just add more call mag because it fudges the EC.

@atomizer2665 Год назад

@@jasonking852 Toms can cope with EC upto 5.0 so i wouldnt worry about adding Ca. Most of the time BER is caused by irregular watering, the uptake of Ca is driven mainly by transpiration.

@baneverything5580 11 месяцев назад

I assume this may be the reason Miracle Gro potting soil killed all my vegetables. In fact, most potting soils appear to be a horrible waste of money so far, and when I find a brand that works suddenly they change it. But thank you. This prevented me from buying a brick of this garbage.

@micksbackyardaquaponics1408 Год назад

What if you were using potting mix would you have to do the same an that was amazing video clip you put together there off the coco there 👍👍

@rebeccaspratling2865 Год назад

That's what I'm wondering too. I use a lot of coco coir this way but luckily have only had positive results.

@patrickbutler1715 Год назад

If you are using a potting mix made to a standard (black ticks on the label for regular or red ticks on the label for premium) there should be no reason to amend the potting mix. If you were adding unamended coco to potting mix maybe but potting mix is not designed for hydroponics as it technically isn't classed as a "soil less " medium. Most potting mixes these days are based on a composted pine bark which will eventually compost further breaking down. This is noticeable when the level drops in pots as it decomposes.

@revoltoff Год назад

I am interested in hydro always have and probably will be but without proper knowledge of micronutrients and what they do for each plant and funghi and what they contribute mimicing natural habitats of plants (which is the ultimate goal, even if a certain plant is bred for hydro cultivation then still you will be steering towards a habitat just maybe X climate zone above/below /micro climate zone differences and pest resistance etc.). Hydro for food or anything you put into you body really is still a class 2/B product for me. You need different elements and molecules that do interect with a plants root system to unlock the full potential, because the plant eats light and does not eat the nutrients, it is so important I feel like to understand that the plants food is light and not the nutrients.

@StumpyTales Год назад

I read this comment 3 times and still not sure what it is trying to say. Seems an awful lot like an attempt to view science through the lens of #thefeels. Hot tip: that approach doesn't work - science is fact-based, not feelings-based.

@revoltoff Год назад

@@StumpyTales There is too little infomation on how micros and funghi affect the flavor and vitamin quality of fruits etc. You can have your hydro strawberries I'll pick my natural soil ones that are sweeter firmer and overall better. I grow both by the way. And funny that you mention it, if you would read any kind of recent articles publushed on nature and different universities you wou;d have known this conclusion is the best there is right now. Try reading some articles published by WUR the best university when it comes to plants int he world, maybe you are still on outdated information. Don't be a douhe please, I probably know more about agrivulture than you ever will.

@atomizer2665 Год назад

@@revoltoff Seems strange that you`d grow hydro strawberries if they were that bad.. The issue is most likely the nutrient you using for your hydro strawberries.

@hydroponicsbybrianbullock2488 Год назад

Excellent video Hoocho. Clear explanation.

@GtJrGrowsItAlaska Год назад

Thanks for sharing

@robertwebb2234 4 месяца назад

WTF??? Ahhhhhh…. Now it makes sense why my F…N expensive seeds have a huge fail in germination. FU!!!K I’m beyond excited about the future of my growing. I’ve had many successful grows but for some reason this year I’ve purchased some new pricy auto flower seeds and 80% failed! Ship!!! It goes to show you that no matter how many times you’ve tried, theirs always something to learn. I watched the one where the guy, washes the cocoa, Pete off in the bathtub , a few years ago. I didn’t think much about it and I added CalMag in and used that. Ya I’m kicking myself, and since it’s a new year & a, new grow I’m going back to grow school, because it’s costed me a little bit, but it’s not the $$$ I’m 😩 bummed about, it’s the time I wasted, well also the few hundred I pisses away. So you guys can call me whatever you want because I deserve it, but maybe I saved you some time by not doing what I’ve done. Thanks again for this opportunity to learn more about my grows. I still have time to grow, & all isn’t lost.

@superkillr Год назад

Any word on Magnesium as well? Many add epsom salts to the soak. Had no idea it needed to be 36hrs, though.

@jeffreylyons1531 Год назад

I use calmag for my buffering soak

@joem3358 Год назад

I've been growing in coco coir blocks for years. Yes, like hoocho said, use your grow mix. I use my part B ( cal nitrate) and mag sulfate mixed at 2.2 EC. I don't mix in any part A for the buffering soak. 24 hours later, drain and rinse. Rinse removes the exchanged Na, P, with excess N and S. It's now loaded with Ca and Mg and ready for plants. Buffering is particularly important for Calmag heavy crops such as cannabis.

@KristiesLexicon Год назад

Very good to know! Thanks!

@BonesFPV Год назад

Hey man. Great explanation. Thanks very much. Threw a sub your way for the effort. Cheers.

@the10yearjourney76 Год назад

Awesome! Trying to buy calcium nitrate, but found calcium nitrogen, are they the same?

@MuffFlux Год назад

Your patreon link is quite low in your description, try chucking it up the top or at least higher to maximize eyes! Keep up the good work Hoocho!

@tonymckessar5734 Год назад

for those without talent or printing equipment, are your caps and plastic pieces available for sale?

@GnosticOrthodoxChurch Год назад

thoughts on canna terra?

@Scrambles7 Год назад

BIG DOG IS NOT DONE!! He's not going to finish the year until he's done what he needs to do! Hell yeah coco bro

@Sagan_Starborn Год назад

5.5kg coco coir 55L water 350g Calcium Nitrate dissolved in what looks like about 5L hot water. mix well 36 hours, drain the solution and now use the coir for seedlings. Thank you Hoocho!

@Sagan_Starborn Год назад

And I just came back and used these numbers to mix 11kg of coco coir into 110 litres of water and added 700g of Ca2NO3 in 10L hot water.... Again, Hoocho. Thank you. Thank you SO much for your information and your mastery.

@moritzwieding3181 6 месяцев назад

the: everybody in my area has to deal with coco shortages really got me haha

@davidmoore7303 Год назад

Now I know why I can't get it. Someone buys the lot

@brianshaw2914 Год назад

do you have a link to the report of calcium nitrate on coco??

@atmm89 Год назад

were are you? just to give me an idea of your area compared to mine, thanks mate and you have a great new year

@patrickbutler1715 Год назад

between Brisbane and Bundaberg

@MikeParentLeap Год назад

Kiss method. Good advice. TY

@sheep.herder Год назад

aweeeesome! 👊

@toughcatgaming4140 Год назад

"sorry about that"😂😂😂

@davidw1324 Год назад

Good stuff. Thank you.

@Roo0ooD Год назад

good video my man i use red rocks myself

@Roo0ooD Год назад

you are making hydro harder, make it simple do the dwc bunnings video and more home brew stuff

@GtJrGrowsItAlaska Год назад

New to the show👍🏾

@spirit210364 Год назад

You're gonna love him!

@GtJrGrowsItAlaska Год назад

@@spirit210364 I do hydroponics and some people asked me to check him him. He seems very knowledgeable 👍🏾

@jobolitz5753 Год назад

When you want to cite an academic paper, it would be valuable to provide your viewers a link to that paper, since you didn't mention use of Magnesium, which almost every site on the Internet that talks about coco buffering mentions.

@Hoocho Год назад

Pause the video, it’s literally on the screen

@dalewhite2253 4 месяца назад

two years on on off growing with mixed results (so kind of just gardening I guess 😉) and I finally hear about this calcium deficiency. Came straight to Hoochos to find out what the go is and you didn't let me down