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How to Build a Fiddle-- Part 8: Carving a scroll 

Jon Mangum
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We talk about materials, grain orientation, templates, and tools. We make a template for the actual scroll.
Check out www.violinwoodworkshop.com for some supplies
Sorry the videos are so long-- so much info to try and pack in there!

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@irenemeno3585
@irenemeno3585 Год назад
Real lovers of this craft/art will never tire of watching and listening to you slowly and perfectly explain each step, purpose and advice. ❤ Thank You so much 😊
@GeeksWoodShop
@GeeksWoodShop 5 лет назад
I've fallen behind on this series, I'm just amazed at how quickly you are turning these out and how well you explain the process. Huge, HUGE thanks for putting this together.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
That means a lot, Geek. I have a LOT of hours into this video series. I really appreciate the compliment-- I get sick of hearing myself talk and worry I am not concise enough. So much goes through my mind and I try to narrow it down!
@GeeksWoodShop
@GeeksWoodShop 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain Well, you really have such an pleasant and authentic delivery, that even if the video is long, it's enjoyable throughout and all the info and your personal tips and insights are super valuable.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@GeeksWoodShop That is very kind of you. You know, I really enjoyed listening to YOU working on your rocking chair prototype-- and seeing your daughter in the shop. I am big fans of both....rocking chairs...and daughters. Most of my kids are gone and I'm Grandpa now. I miss the days you're living more than you could know. It ends all to quick and suddenly the house is quiet and no one needs you. I miss the kids coming into the shop for advice...relationships, cars...whatever. I really enjoyed your videos.
@GeeksWoodShop
@GeeksWoodShop 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain Thanks much, I try to take your advice to heart (while I still have time to do so. : )
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 2 года назад
I think your explanation and video of this neck carving is one of the best on you tube.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 2 года назад
Thankyou!
@racenicolia29
@racenicolia29 3 года назад
john this was the first video of yours that I watched shortly after I watched the rest of the series. this was back in march of last year and I just finished my poplar and cumaru fiddle. thankyou for all of your help.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 3 года назад
Thanks for telling me! That's wonderful!
@lisacraig1894
@lisacraig1894 10 месяцев назад
This is artistic, much nicer than mine! Glad to see the cut proof gloves; Kevlar is useful in gardening and cooking too!
@billstoner5559
@billstoner5559 5 лет назад
You make it look so easy, Jon. Thanks for another fine video. Nice fiddle playing too. 😊
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou. It's not really hard! The scroll shape was the easy-peasy beginner shape one would learn back in the old days when wood carving was necessary. It is a fun little project!
@lintonmeyer
@lintonmeyer 5 лет назад
Another amazing video Jon. Not only are you skilled at the craft but your ability to explain the process is truly excellent. No apologies needed for the length. I'm finding your videos riveting.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou, Linton -- I feel like I do alot of talking -- there is so much going on in my head and I try to limit it! I remember when I was beginning and would have loved to see how things were done, so I try to be thorough..... I get pretty sick of hearing myself after a couple hours of editing video!
@lintonmeyer
@lintonmeyer 5 лет назад
Rest assured Jon...you are not over talking from my point of view. You are super informative and you shouldn’t change a thing. Many thanks for doing this. I’m so excited to see how it turns out. I wish I could be there to test drive it myself. I’m liking your fiddle tunes as well.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@lintonmeyer I really appreciate the encouragement-- thankyou. The series has been a lot of work -- my wife says it has been basically a full time job lately. I don't get anything out of it, other than the satisfaction of sharing something that most want to charge $$ for. I know I'm not very good at playing, but hope that it encourages the beginners and gives a little hope to the guys or gals building their first fiddle. Thanks again!
@KLWStrings
@KLWStrings 5 лет назад
Great series and I sat down with a bowl of popcorn and watched this one, much better than TV.. I build Acoustic guitars and other plucked instruments but a Viola is on the horizon so this has been very interesting & helpful!
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
THAT is awesome! Thanks for the compliment! You make REAL instruments! Really terrific!
@KLWStrings
@KLWStrings 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain Ha, pretty sure most people thing Fiddles are the real instruments.. Yours sound great!
@gervasegallant
@gervasegallant 4 года назад
Nice lesson on neck building... I've been hunting around for some advice and direction .. and this vid does it. Much appreciated.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 4 года назад
Thankyou so much!
@gilbertwilliamson7782
@gilbertwilliamson7782 5 лет назад
Excellent tutorial again jon, best series of videos on RU-vid, well done. 🎻🎻👍👍👍
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
I think you may be overstating things a bit....but THANKS!
@gilbertwilliamson7782
@gilbertwilliamson7782 5 лет назад
Jon mangum, can't wait for the finishing video. It's the varnish stage that has got me stumped on my fiddles. It has never come the way I wanted and never dark enough. I did one with shellac and the other with a golden brown oil varnish. 🎻👍
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@gilbertwilliamson7782 well, I hope you aren't disappointed! I am no finishing genius. My darkest finish that I liked was with a dark shellac I made. I am doing some experiments with varnish. I don't want to darken my Cherry at all, but I want the top darker to match better
@georgefrench1907
@georgefrench1907 5 лет назад
Best scroll-carving video I’ve see. Bravo!
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thanks, George!
@MrTurer
@MrTurer 16 дней назад
outstanding video series. thank you Jon👍
@raornitram
@raornitram 4 года назад
Sorry my bad English but I live in Norway. I must say that you are very easy to follow for us who do not have English as our mother tongue. Your explanations are so clear and easy to follow ... and I have a great sense of your humor. This is one of the best educational videos on youtube. Thank you very much .... you have been a great inspiration
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 4 года назад
Thankyou very much! You are very kind. Thankyou for the encouragement!
@TwoCherriesIns
@TwoCherriesIns 5 лет назад
All those non-traditional tone wood violins are awesome.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Glad you like them! Thanks!
@keninnis1
@keninnis1 5 лет назад
Its a lot harder to do than it appears...but with practice it becomes doable..Thanks...Love this series
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou, Kenneth. It's really not too bad :)
@maxlever9196
@maxlever9196 5 лет назад
Another excellent lesson.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou!
@CooperViolins
@CooperViolins 4 года назад
Thumbs up for the Indian motorcycle shirt!
@andrewsmith1520
@andrewsmith1520 5 лет назад
I've been loving the series... I have no actual plans to build a fiddle, but watching the videos are fun and entertaining none-the-less. Also, I wanted to comment because you made mention of electric guitars with laminated necks. It's funny you mention that, because I used to own a Peavey with a thin neck (thick necks are actually my preference) and it was made from a two piece maple blank with no added fret board. It had started to split near the heel, which is something that now make me leary of laminated necks, but maybe I just didn't have a good one, or the neck held too much bowing pressure from the truss rod. Not sure. Anyway, keep up the great work, love your videos.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou for the compliment. Sounds like a poor glue joint. Your laminations sound horizontal instead of vertical. Laminated beams, for example, are much stronger, too.
@andrewsmith1520
@andrewsmith1520 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain This picture illustrates the style neck my peavy had. This is from the same series. This is of a t-60. Mine was a t-15 I believe. www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiHovWhu5bgAhVLMd8KHWL_D4sQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samuelbarker.net%2Ft60mafia%2Ft60funfacts.html&psig=AOvVaw1hykcFPvNq8bPxMHrQ9oDH&ust=1548970590293455
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@andrewsmith1520 I couldn't tell from the web site what the necks are made of. I was surprised at how they cranked out the guitars with basically no human interaction. Robots, essentially. Kinda makes me sad-- but they could produce a guitar for next to nothing that way. Can't blame them.
@bluehoo0
@bluehoo0 5 лет назад
Excellent again very clearly explained. I never gave a thought to the mass of the scroll and the roll it plays. 👍👍👍👍👍
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thanks so much. The whole violin is amazing. Every part has a job. I can't imagine how it was invented. It is so complex in function, yet simple in form.
@anderleyadv
@anderleyadv 5 лет назад
I appreciate all your videos. You hva great tallet at making violins. Congratulations! Best wishes, Anderley (From João Pessoa, Paraíba, northeast part of Brazil).
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Well, Anderley, you made my day! Thankyou for saying such nice things! I am so glad that you liked my videos. That makes all the effort worth it.
@btryba
@btryba 4 года назад
Just found this series and am binge watching them today. Have you ever make your own fingerboard before for a final fiddle?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 4 года назад
Yes! It's not hard. I show it on one of my videos....I made a fingerboard out of rosewood to match a guitar when I made a matching set. Hope the videos are helpful. Thanks for writing!!
@fredlambert7924
@fredlambert7924 2 года назад
Thanks for a terrific series , very easy to understand . Need to make a fiddle. I have watched 1 thru 5 , don’t seem to find # 6 &#7 ?
@TheNewSettlers
@TheNewSettlers 5 лет назад
Hey mate - loving the uploads - just a quick question: apart from watching videos from people such as yourself can you recommend any learning resources i.e. books that someone starting out would greatly benefit from. Books with a particular focus towards making violins?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
The BEST book is The Art of Violin making. Great web site is www.makingtheviolin.com Definitely get the book. It is worth every penny. Thanks.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Btw.....I discussed this topic in the first video of the series ;)
@TheNewSettlers
@TheNewSettlers 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain I was looking at that one this arvo and wondering if I should get it. Cheers mate!
@adamgc73
@adamgc73 5 лет назад
Fascinating to watch Jon...very sexy velute indeed 👌🏼obviously lots of patience required in this area of construction 🎻
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thanks, Adam!
@GoldPlate29
@GoldPlate29 5 лет назад
I'm wondering, what fiddle your're playing at the end... it's always great and refreshing to watch your videos again! Congrats!
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
That one was made from Locust Wood from a buddy, and a tree that fell in a storm out back. I called it my Farewell Fiddle.
@josevelez7539
@josevelez7539 5 лет назад
Great video series. Can you list or do a video on the carving gouges you used the most (required) for the scroll and the blocks?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Thankyou! Sure -- I only use 3 gouges. 1/4" 1/2" and 1". It doesn't take many. I also use a chisel here and there and have the usual set of 1/4" - 1" chisles.
@thomaswalters4058
@thomaswalters4058 5 лет назад
I live in Florida and have acquired a rafter load of Cyprus lumber. Very clear, nice tight grain and seems easy enough to work with. Question is: What is your take on such wood as Cyprus? Would think it would make a nice back and scroll?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
I looked up the mechanical properties of Cypress. It is a soft wood, and close to red cedar in strength. It compresses easily, and is not a very strong wood. Generally fast growing woods in wet environments yield poor quality for instruments. I would definitely consider it for a belly or top plate for a fiddle. Quarter sawn, of course. I have never worked Cypress--- so the decision is really yours. The fact that you already have the wood is a good enough reason to explore the uses in an instrument. I think I might cut a piece down to size, thickness a piece to 3 or 4mm and see how it felt in my hands. Tap it and listen to the tone. Your hands will tell you alot. Bend and twist it. Feel its strength. Compare it to a piece of maple cut the same size (maple is the standard, we always compare to it). The comparison in your hands will tell you alot.
@thomaswalters4058
@thomaswalters4058 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain Thanks Jon. Wow, good advice. I will check and compare cyprus to maple and do the other steps you described above. Coincidently I have a HP laptop like yours and had loaded Audacity and Adobe Audition for ACX ebook narration, so I am familiar with audio tracks etcetra. But I love the setup you've created to test and vibrate plates using tea & pepper. Something else for the 'back burner' LOL. Thanks again.
@bethesdawoodworks2314
@bethesdawoodworks2314 5 лет назад
Where did you find the Strad poster with those drawings..... I’ve had no luck looking on the web. Keep up the great work!!!!!
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
www.thestradshop.com Thanks!
@lad60606
@lad60606 5 лет назад
I ordered the Titian 1715 a couple of months ago and got it in about a week. It is a nice poster, even tho it’s a bit pricey with shipping from the UK. I hope to start my first build this Spring. John here is nothing short of inspiring.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@lad60606 yes! The prices are a bit crazy-- but alot of research goes into the data....and it's worth it in the end! Psyched you're on your way!
@simonecamplani2430
@simonecamplani2430 5 лет назад
U usually do a curved cut with a japanese saw instead of ising the chisel to chip out the little pieces, i feel less anxious of chipout, maybe if someone is as anxious as me can take this route
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
How do you tell how deep you are? I never thought of that.
@simonecamplani2430
@simonecamplani2430 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain with the backless saw you follow the fishtail line and since you have already made the square cuts at some point you meet them and the pieces jump away, there are many vids about this method mainly in Italian, i'll link you one, images will speak instead of words.
@simonecamplani2430
@simonecamplani2430 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cSxSJThBsok.html here is a similar but not identical approach to mine, the part we talk about its around the min 6.30
@MrBass4art
@MrBass4art 3 года назад
Have you ever made a trapezoid fiddle or sometimes called a savart violin?
@bluehoo0
@bluehoo0 5 лет назад
I’ve heard some people recommend thinning the glue when fixing the belly to make it easier when and if it has to be removed. Do you think it’s necessary?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
I don't know. I am not sure how thin is too thin. Btw-- I HAVE been able to take my fiddles apart-- I took one apart to change the bass bar. It wasn't too bad.
@bluehoo0
@bluehoo0 5 лет назад
Jon Mangum That’s what I thought, in the past when repairing old furniture and dismantling a mortise and tenon joint I used methylated spirit in a syringe that dissolved the glue.
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@bluehoo0 heat and moisture softens the glue. I have used a hair dryer!
@vinrago7936
@vinrago7936 3 года назад
Hi, your videos are very interesting. He can give news of the book that he browses many times in the videos. Thank you very much.
@ihsanoktay6791
@ihsanoktay6791 4 года назад
Thanks.
@sigurdurhannesson5779
@sigurdurhannesson5779 5 лет назад
Tried that place for the violin setup parts... shipping cost more than the wood... lol
@LizzyLongMusic
@LizzyLongMusic 2 года назад
Heu jon you still here ? Love to talk to you
@נועםאלון-מ8כ
@נועםאלון-מ8כ 5 лет назад
Can you paitd it, and fiim it please? In the end..?
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
Of course I'll play it! :)
@נועםאלון-מ8כ
@נועםאלון-מ8כ 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain thenks man youre the best, realy you explain anything, and as a violinist its realy inspiring!!!
@grandpasmountain
@grandpasmountain 5 лет назад
@@נועםאלון-מ8כ I would love to hear YOU play! I think it's in your DNA!
@נועםאלון-מ8כ
@נועםאלון-מ8כ 5 лет назад
@@grandpasmountain thenks
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