I left this same comment on one of your other videos (that video was two years ago so I am recommenting here) Love your videos. My suggestion: making sure it is in line, put the post that is in the middle of the line first, that will greatly reduce the amount of bow in the string caused by wind. If the wind still bows the string too much, go to the quarter and three quarter points. And if it still bows too much, why in the world are you trying to set posts during a tornado. We are Omi's BlackBerry Farm in Paige, Texas and we are fixin to plant 16 muscadines, 8 varieties, 2 of each. They will arrive in mid January from Ison's Nursery. We got our recommendations from Greg Ison himself and we can only say the nicest things about him. Greg also has a slew of instructional videos that are worth watching if you are just getting started with muscadines. If you are ever in central Texas, stop in for a visit. We may not always have berries (and soon grapes and figs) but we always have time to visit.
Lol im getting hands on instruction from Gregg. They are like 20 min from my house. I'm putting in 300 plants as a you pick . This video was a long time ago lol. I work when I can im a trucker and work alot so I do it when I can. Thanks and good luck on the plants
Most useful video on trellis yet. Wire vice appears to be well worth the money. Very interesting tidbit on the fencing clips; squeaky wheel. TS owes me a bunch. Thanks!
I'm building a musadine trellis in my backyard, and I'm following your instructions. So far, so good. 😊 I have dug the holes, and tomorrow, I will be setting the posts in cement. I forgot I needed a long drill bit, so I will run to Lowe's tomorrow to pick one up. I have my 9 guage wire and wire vices. I waited too late to order the Supreme and Isons muscadines that I really wanted, so I will have to wait until the next season to order them. In the meantime, I have triumph and cowart. I can't wait to see them start growing. Thank you for the tutorial.
I just found your channel anI subscribed and I love you attitude towards life. I have started a backyard orchard and have grape vines. I have got to build my trellises this weekend. Keep up the good work.
Hahaha you get just as excited about those Muscadines as you do with your tree stand in the woods. Like if grand when you can really enjoy the simplest things in life. I loved how Mia was cautiously approaching that killer grill. Hugs to Y'all
Thanks for the help. I plan to give it a try (just on a much smaller scale). I love Muscadines. They're another great thing about the Fall time of year.
Trying awesome video, Shane. Great how - to. Love muscadines and never really knew how.... learning and getting inspired. I know you’re going to do more of these, make sure you make a playlist!
Great work, Shane! My kin have been raising hybridized muscadines (mostly Ison's varieties) since around 1960. I've got a smaller vineyard here in Western NC -- around 400' of double tiered vines. Varieties include Carlos, Nesbitt, Black Beauty, Hunt, Summit & Tara. The Carlos (bronze) variety is the most frequently grown in the state of North Carolina. Making vino for the first time this year; appreciate your tips, buddy!
Bro, I learned everything I needed to know about building my trellises from this very video! You're awesome!!! I'm following the Ison's advice on fertilizing, so hopefully my single runners will all reach the top wire this year! The wire vises are an ingenious design and it was actually kinda fun installing them. 9 gauge wire is perfect, as you stated. Thank you, kind Sir.
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia - That's a good point. I have a lot of weeds and wild grasses along my short backyard single run of only 8 plants. Because of limited space in the city, each plant in the line is going to actually be trained to alternate from top wire to middle wire, if that makes sense. Otherwise, the vines would just become a tangled mess if they overlapped on the top wire. I know that's not preferable using any of the middle wire when it's harvest time, but hopefully not a backbreaker since it'll only be four plants on the middle wire!
I love watching your videos, very wholesome and informative. I'm running concords here in Ohio, but I'm using your same method. I'm doing 10 - 100 foot rows. I want to see more about your irrigation methods if possible. Not sure if you have a video on that specifically, but I would love to see how your running your whole watering system.
Also, I couldn't find 9 gauge galvanized high tensile wire in long enough lengths, so I ended up going with the 12.5 high tensile from tractor supply, it was rated for 1500 breaking limit so wish me luck!
Awesome video neighbor. I’m here in the next town over in Molena. Right behind the water tower. I have been putting off on making my trellis for a while. You got me motivated to get started. Going to tractor supply for some supplies.
Great video. I'm just getting started with muscadines and scuppernongs and was trying to figure out my trellis system. Thanks, waiting for more video's.
Hey, thanks for the video and the motivation! I just put up two rows, 100 feet each, to grow ten plants - already got my order in with Ison's - will be ready to plant when they arrive!
I saved this video a couple years ago and will be using your great tutorial to do exactly what you say....just ordered the 9 awg vises and ordering 9 awg chain link galvanized steel wire....will let you know how is goes and thank you
I’m in GA and i love them. My in-laws have a huge piece of land and i want to put a few plants there. Nothing to sell just to enjoy with family and friends.
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia Excellent - thanks! I will check them out. We are a little Southwest of you in Alabama and just getting started. We have quite a healthy crop of scuppernong growing everywhere - need to get it organized :-)
You do have a future job , I like the wire holder you inserted in the hole for the wire not to back out I didn't know there was such a thing. My space is greatly limited. I planted about forty feet. Their doing good so we'll see. Thankyou for your video.
I’m building a muscadine trellis , also berry trellis. I will make wine with both . I really like yours and hope I am successful with them ( not as large as your farm.
Hey Bud, didn't catch your name but I enjoy your docu/show and got my answer the first ten minutes. I'm trying to train wild muskies for snacks! Looking for dos and donts. I do wish you would use a body protector of some kind when stretching the wire!! TexaBama
Lol wild one are tough. Tip 1. Find main trunk and in Feb shorting the vine to 2 vines and cut them off at 10 ft each. Your best grapes are at that length. Tip 2 fertilizer, April May June and July on the1 st use 10 10 10 and calcium Nitrate on the 15th of all those months
Great video, your puppy is sooooo cute 🥰 Just found out we have a muscadine vine in our backyard. I have no idea how old it is but we’ve been here 2 yrs. there was fruit on it this summer, not bunches, but it sure was exciting to have a good amount of grapes. She is kinda gnarly and tangled in some trees so can’t wait to watch your video on pruning (we have no idea how to do it correctly). It’s September and I’m noticing the leaves changing color so I guess we need to get busy! 🙂
Thanks a million for taking the time to make this video. Very simple to follow. Where you live do you have to worry about the water lines freezing? Will be watching more of your videos. Your little pup is beautiful...love that silly puppy stage. Jesus bless.
Great video! Much easer than I envisoned! I will follow this method. Where do you get your wire. Having issues finding 9 ga. wire longer than 50 feet. My rows are going to be about 150 ft long. Subscribed!
I am thinking about spray painting the wire....for visibilty...for people that may cut that area sometimes....would love your thoughts on painting wire
Should you not put the support at ten feet from the end post? That would support the plant as it grows and the ten feet towards the end is just what holds the vine?
I’m starting my vineyard trellis system, if I place my T-post at 20’ and my plants in between at 10’, do I let my vine run 5’ in both directions which is 10’ total length. Or 10’ in both directions and over lap the neighboring vine for a 20’ total length vine.
This is a great guide. Question, at 15:30 you tied the last foot or so of the wire back around the post after pulling it through the vice. Is there a purpose to that? Do we need to leave some slack or could you just cut it off closer to the vice?
I didn't see any info about the main poles. Were they 6" Diameter? Were they 8 feet long and buried two feet? Did you backfill with gravel or cement? I don't understand how they don't tilt with the tension of the wire. Thanks!
Thank you for this video! I like your trellis. My only concern is if the end posts will get pulled up. Have your first ones gone through a few winters okay?
So the end posts aren't anchored to the ground? I've seen others build an H brace or anchor the end post to the ground using high tensile wire. I'll try your way with concrete.
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you said the grapes do the best 10 feet from the vine, but then you ran a 100 yards of wire. I suppose you have a different vine at each t-post?
Hey, couple questions and one comment. We have a German shepherd Weimaraner pup we got to chase deer out of our vineyard, bark is exactly the same! Hey how far from the edge of the woods do you stop your rows? And are you doing 10 foot between rows? Thanks
Love the this works but my only problem is I put the post 2feet down and know the post moved . Just wondering is there anyway to get the wire out of the vice anchor?
I don't think so. If it were me I would put a good brace at a 45 degree angle on the leaning post then just tighten up the wire. Please don't over think this we just trying to keep the grapes off the ground lol
Don't have the room or ability to sink 8 ft wood posts. Only have 1 vine that I need to trellis in a regular size back yard. Have a few questions: Can I use a 8 ft T-post as an end post instead? And will it be able to support 1 vine? Will 10 ft of wire be enough for 1 plant? And how would I anchor the 8 ft end T-posts?
For just 1 plant I would think it would be OK. Just remember those plants get heavy over the years. Average 70 to 100lbs of fruit plus the when in mid summer will be huge with growth.
This a great video. I've seen a lot of cattle fences with taught barbed wire. They all seem to have two vertical posts with a horizontal post secured between and some sort of tension pulling the posts together at the top, which is designed to prevent the posts from leaning. have you seen your single posts lean without this H system?
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia Gotcha. I used the old-fashioned post-hole digger. You can't go 3' deep with that, due to the handles on the PHD not being able to grab the dirt. By the way, I saw another channel where a guy used a fence stretcher to pull the wire. Anyway, loved the video and appreciate it.
When putting in your end post you said you used 80# of concrete. Did you have to widen your 2 foot deep hole bigger than the post hole digger width to allow the whole 80# bag of concrete to fill it up?
when laying out you vinyard always (if space is available) run your post north and south for best sun on vines ------face sunrise early am extent your arms left hand will be pointing north right hand south the reason behind this is so sun is on all plants at the same time if you run east and west the sun will be only on the east end till it rises west end dont get sun for a while this is for ideal conditions per people that make a living selling muscadines also consider water for irrigation best to install pipe be fore vines start i found post set 24 ft apart wiyh 1 vine at the mid point takes about 3 yrs for 2 wire vines i put mine at top of post and other 4ft so i dont have to bend over you will need male and female talk to nurserys about this polination
Thanks for the info! I'm over in southern central NC and I'm waiting for delivery if some grape vines this spring. I'm trying to figure out how I want to build the trellis, and this one looks great! Do you happen to have any tips on soil ammendments (if any are even needed) for a soil thats higher percentage of clay?
Ison, Supreme, Black Beauty, lol just about all the variety that isons sell. We don't mulch around muscadines. Their roots can run shallow and the roots could run up into the mulch and if you have a hard freeze it could kill your plants. I spray for weed control.
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia Thanks, I'm in N.Florida about to put some in. I was planning on using silt fence but I will look into spraying. Do you know how the Seedless Fry produces from Ison's? I heard it might have low yields, their out for spring but maybe I can get one 2022.
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia awesome thanks! Planning to switch my orchard around some and I want to incorporate some grapes in/with my strawberries. I like your chest high theory. Makes sense. 😉😊😊 thank you
Hey Shane the vineyard is looking really good, how long does a plant last? I know you said the fruit is best after 3 yrs. But how many years on average do they last? Mia is so cute barking at the pigs teeheehee, she a good puppy she stays pretty close to you and minds when you call her. I have one I have to say is either very dumb dog or a very smart dog. 8 yrs old and as much as she loves me she still won't mind! Won't come when I call her, I wasted a ton of money on obedience training that hasn't worked. When I call her she stands there and decides if "she" wants to listen or not then she either comes or takes off the other way! Glad my property's fenced or I'm sure I'd lose her to the wilds lol. Silly mutt! She's my baby so I I'll love her no matter if she minds or not. Lol. Much love from So.Cal.💟
@@KinfolkFarmofGeorgia my husband planted the first Isons vines in 2003. The trunks are 4-5 inch diameter. They still produce well(pruned yearly) but my inspiration is deceased by 4 years and I’m just not too sure how deeply to prune. I’ve been researching for older vine treatment.
I'm actually making a prunning video today just got shut down for the rain. But will try to get it out sometime this week for sure. Mine are only 4 yrs old but should still be the same. I will definitely remember this question and add it to the video. Going LIVE tonight at 7 pm eastern for a seed give away hope you guys are there
Hey Shane, do you think you'll be able to Open to the Public next year? Or should I say how many rows do you need to open to the Public? Does Emma still like Her Piggies now that they are bigger? One more hahaha, Did you get the Driveway Buck? I'll try to pop in to your live tomorrow, seems as though everyone has decided to go live on Sunday s. As I said before I'm not a big fan of lives , but I was watching Our Wyoming Life before everyone else started👋. JO JO IN VT 💕😄
Lol be about 3yrs until ready to open but we may do some little meet up next year. She loves em. But we have to feed em first lol and the driveway buck has disappeared. But hopefully he'll be back. Our gun season started today so we gonna see what happens
