I appreciate all your content but a couple points for you and your viewers. 1. The Short Range versions of the Lightning charge at a max of 48 amps. 2. LECTRON (there may be others) makes a version of their adapter that is rated for 48 amps. I spoke with their customer service and that is a continuous rating. 3. I have a new 80 amp TeslaTap connector that you show. While is is rated at 80 amps MAX, I spoke with the company and that unit should only be used for 3 hours at 80 amps. For continuous use beyond 3 hours, they said it needs to be limited to 80%, or 64 amps. 4. TeslaTap does offer different (and smaller) adapters that will handle the 80 amps continuously.
Thanks for the info, I think I miss spoke on the lectron ratings, I’ll check both adaptors. I’ll try and test the mini. I can b bench test the adaptors for current handling but would rather test as designed.
Another great video! Definitely something to keep in mind. The ioniq guy did a video talking about the Tesla tap mini vs the Lectron and in his video he took it apart It looks pretty decent on the inside. The owner of the Tesla tap company says with the Tesla tap mini it's built like a tank while it's rated for 80 amps it could handle double he says. Isn't there a temperature sensor in the end of the Tesla connector I bet if things started to get toasty it would automatically back off I definitely wouldn't want to test that though haha. I know I was charging and my plug started melting and I got a message in my Tesla app that said there was an issue to go check on it probably saved my house from catching fire!
Good info for EV neophytes, Dave. When I relinquish my Model 3 and get another EV someday, I intend to keep the UMC and adapters and get a TeslaTap MINI 80 for roadtrips. Indeed, I'll probably get a second TeslaTap MINI 80 for my Tesla HPWC at home rather than buy a different EVSE with a J1772 plug. As for fast charging, it's nice that Tesla now sells a CCS-to-Tesla adapter, but I'd really like to someone to develop a Tesla-to-CCS adapter so that other EVs can use Superchargers -something that Tesla has promised will happen like in Europe, but has yet to happen here.
I’m not sure about the newest tesla wall connectors but I have a first generation and you can dial down the amps using the internal dip switches. However, if you’re on the road you may not know what it’s set at
Great video. I can't believe Ford doesn't display charging power or allow you to set the amperage. I charge my MYP on 5-15 daily, and noticed I had to limit the current to 10amps to keep the TMC happy. You should be able to do that on any car.
Without a doubt the 40 and 48 amp adapters would eventually fail drawing over their rated current. It's my understanding that: It's not that you have 240 volts connected to the lightning that limits the current draw, it's what they call the charger which isn't a charger at all, Because the actual AC to DC charger is located in the lightning. One if you have a standard range battery and two AC to DC chargers if you have an extended range battery. The lightning chargers are bypassed when charging with DC.
I have a Tesla and I bought a J1772 wall connector. Tesla's included adapter made it easy to switch and I figured it'd be easier in case I ever sell the Tesla for another brand, or buy some cheap non NACS vehicle to have a long w my Tesla.
I've been debating between a Tesla wall connector and a J1772 connector. Currently I have a NEMA 14-50 in my garage between the two overhead doors. My wife always pulls into the garage and uses that outlet with the Tesla Mobile Connector. On the opposite side of the garage I have a Gen 3 Wall connector that I use. Outside the garage and offset to the side to avoid blocking cars going in/out of the garage, I have another NEMA 14-50 outlet. I only use this outlet if family or friends are visiting and need to change. My concern is that someone might try to steal the Mobile connector if a car is charging outside overnight. It would be more difficult to steal the wall connector. All my family members and friends that own EVs have Teslas but when the time comes for my kids to drive maybe I'll just get them a cheap non-Tesla EV which will probably require a J1772 connector. After watching this video, I am thinking maybe installing the Tesla wall connector and buying the 80amp adapter like the one Dave has might be the way to go.
@@DblOSmith 100amps from the main 200amp panel to a sub panel in the garage. The sub panel then has individual breakers for each connection. I've never had 3 cars charging at the same time and usually my wife's car is charged before I get home except on weekends or days off. Even though my wife is plugged in to a 50amps breaker which should allow the car to pull a max of 40amps, the Mobile Connector max power is 32amps. My Wall connector is on a 60amp breaker and pulls up to 48amps. If running on generator power I usually let one car charge first or if we are both charging, I have my car only pull 24amps not to put to much strain on the generator.
This seems like a safety issue Ford could fix with the option to limit the charge current in the software. Someone with decent presence on twitter should tweet this video at the EV / lightning product managers and ask them why they give their customers no options for safer operation.
Question, we just got a Lightning for the business and have 2 o.g. 80A Tesla Chargers and one new 60A. We follow the instruction from this video but it wont recognize the 80A Chagers, does fine with the 60A/48A. Any ideas? Great video BTW
on my Electrify America charger at home I can set limits for amps up to the rated max of 40 amps, many chargers can do this, people just need to buy the one that allows this.
Dave, maybe I missed this info, if you had a 50amp breaker in your panel, wouldn’t it trip if it saw higher amp draw, what size breaker are you using? By the way, excellent video explaining, very helpful.
Yes, version 2 is good for 80 amps, early S and X cars could chargers at 80 amps. The new version 3 Tesla wall connectors (white) can chargers at a max rate of 48 amps
