How to choose a beginner catamaran

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The perfect catamaran for beginners?
Ultimate 1st cat?
The anatomy of a beginner catamaran
Rotomoulded
Dart 16 - 125kg
Topaz 14 - 110kg
Hobie 15 - 155kg
Hobie getaway - 177kg
Hobie Wave - 111kg
Hobie T1 - 120kg
RS Cat 14 - 125kg
Topcat K4X
Nacra 500
For the Aussies:
Maricat 14
Windrush 14
Features:
Skeg Hull
Loads of volume
No boom
Smaller less powerful sails
Simple design
Easy to sail!
What you should also look for when buying:
- trailer
- trolley
- cover
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@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CATAMARAN? HOW DID IT WORK OUT FOR YOU?

@Jebarus13 2 года назад

Prindle 19. It is a giant, might not have been ideal as a first cat for a new sailor. I wanted something fast that could take many people on board. I got more than I asked for, but it is fun :)

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

@@Jebarus13 Ha, yes certainly some good volume on there!

@craiggibbons3268 2 года назад

Hobie Wave for life.

@nicko6710 Год назад

Hobie 14. At 60kg. I was way over powered.

@alainlamothe6934 Год назад

1979 yellow Hobie 16. Learned the hard way with 3 rescues from Canadian Coast Guard.

@woodsskiier68 2 месяца назад

Learned on a Hobie 16. stayed with the Hobie 16. Still have a lot to learn about how to sail a Hobie 16. Easy boat to learn basics on and infinite room to improve. Has given me about 40 years of fun. Great boat for beginner to expert.

@JoyriderTV 2 месяца назад

That's a great summary of the 16. Thanks

@Konfliktloeser 2 года назад

...not to forget the Dart15... I still have mine as a "spare- boat" to share it with friends that want to go out solo on a cat for the first time

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yeah for sure - perhaps i'll review this video in a year to add all of the boats that I missed!

@tootbarkley7276 2 года назад

*I always learn with you. Thanks Joseph.*

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks!±🤩

@RL1911 2 года назад

I'm learning on a Hobie 16. I've had great success with Joe's awesome help. Thanks Joe!

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Great to hear!

@robertosgood961 2 года назад

Started with an '89 H14 two years ago. It had a broken mast and was in need of a lot of love. Watching your videos taught me how to inspect and adjust virtually every aspect of that boat. Sold it and bought an '85 H16. It also had seen many years of use and needed a complete rebuild to bring it back. Sailed it last year and have continued to work on it and make improvements for this year's sailing adventures. Can't say thanks enough for all of the work and information you have put into filming and editing so many videos!

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

You're very welcome, It's always great to get more people into cat sailing.

@joaquins90 2 года назад

I've recently scored a wildcat as my first cat and it's been great, proper beens given on the 3rd session. 2h of previous experience with cats on some holidays, and a lot of joyrider tv which proven seriously helpful! Very helpful the chute ring answer in the live Q&A. Some sanding, then teflon spray and it's finally doing great!!

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

That goes to show that anything will work as long as you don't go for too much wind straight off.

@cristosanto815 2 года назад

I just bought a Hobie cat 16. I only had 6 lessons of sailing plus your channel. This year I will learning on a lake and next straight in the Mediterranean sea. Thanks! I found your video very helpful and also the reason I bought a 16.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Great stuff! You're going to love it. Congratulations on becoming a cat sailor!

@ryangusmeroli331 2 года назад

For the aussies would also recommend the nacra 4.5 slightly smaller than the nacra 5.0. Can run no jib for the first few sails, does make tacking a bit harder though. Plenty of hull volume for 3-4 people. Good fun with 2 in 10-15 knots. Easy to single hand once you know what you’re doing.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks for that - I never saw a 4.5

@dumbcat 2 года назад

wow. you posted a video about the subject within 24hrs of someone suggesting it. here is another possible topic of interest for beginners... why chose a beachcat over a dinghy sailboat?

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

That's a good topic. Mono vs Cat - could be a good video. Thanks

@joslouisnb2 2 года назад

I sail both frequently depending on who I'm going out with and they're experience, both are lots of fun but they definitely each have they're positives and negatives.

@jonathanalea 2 года назад

Looking to get my first boat and first cat to learn how to sail… great stuff Joseph!

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks, great stuff, good luck!

@mmannfol 2 года назад

Great advice for learning, if you have a selection of beginner boats to start out on. I bought my Hobie 14 not knowing how to sail at all and learned on it. I have since upgraded to a Hobie 16 and feel confident and proficient. I definitely wish I learned on the 16 though….. HULL VOLUME is definitely worth a consideration!

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yes, it's the low volume of the 14 that makes it so difficult.

@kevinburger590 2 года назад

I learned cat sailing on a HC16, but since we were too light we switched to the HC14 Turbo. Now I'm back on a HC16 and in a few years i'll maybe switch to a Wildcat or a Nacra 17. As kid the Dragoon was also a lot of fun. So easy to handle and to upright after capsizing.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Great stuff! The 16 is good for learning on as it doesn't accept bad technique - good for the future of your cat sailing.

@stephanvanrooijen2971 2 года назад

Started on a dart 18. Easy to sail, simple and fast also single handed with Just the main. Then a Nacra Inter 17 because of the spi. Bit nervous boot wih a long small sail. Love my hobie fx one! Also sail a dart 15 single handed if I want to be in control under all circumstances. Easy to handle on the beach because it is light. Even thinking going back to Dart 18. Like your channel ! Keep on going...

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks! I also started on the Dart 18, such a great boat and possibly still the best for true solo sailing + 2 up

@pascalblotiau 9 месяцев назад

I have a dart 16 it’s a great boat but here in New York it’s hard to find parts like sails and rudder parts It seems that the plastic used is different from hobie plastic Great videos Thank you

@JoyriderTV 9 месяцев назад

Interesting that they're different. I dare say that the parts would need to come from Europe.

@kremcap 2 года назад

Going through the list of criteria it sounded like the exact opposite of a Hobie 16 and I agree that it is not the best beginner boat. Yet the H16 was my first boat and I was happy with it. So if you are a beginner and considering to get one cause it's cheap and accessible, don't get discouraged. Better a H16 than no boat. Great video though to understand what makes a good beginner boat.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yeah for sure, Like I said to Kevin: The 16 is good for learning on as it doesn't accept bad technique - good for the future of your cat sailing.

@yarryrob 2 года назад

Minicat Guppy was my first. Big advantage not having to use a trailer, set up in 15-20 mins. Nowhere near as good as any of your recommendations but a good little boat to learn the basics. Next boat for me will be a Hobie Wave or, maybe, a Seawind 24.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing, I'd love to try a Minicat at some point having never sailed an inflatable.

@jtmchannel7640 2 года назад

Hobie Wave is by far the best beginner friendly in my opinion. I learned on them and now I teach other people on them too. My recent first catamaran buy is a Hobie 14, and it is certainly not beginner friendly despite being a solo boat. I love the 14 though, once you figure out how to sail it, it’s great.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yes, the Wave is ceratinly the most user friendly and simple. The 14 is possibly at the other end of the scale!

@hunteyvonne 2 года назад

@@JoyriderTV Thank you, your channel is amazing! Is the Hobie Bravo worth considering?

@hunteyvonne 2 года назад

@@JoyriderTV This would be for total noobs learning to sail in a bay on Lake Simcoe. Our goal is to not capsize.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

@@hunteyvonne that's a good goal although you can't rule it out happening at some point unless you stick to low winds.

@Lew114 11 месяцев назад

I'm leaning towards a Hobie 16. I have a little bit of experience and I'll be sailing on an inland lake in light winds. If I get killed I won't post a follow up.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

As long as you don’t try to give it too much beans in too much wind too soon you should be fine with a 16

@iamdaveyc 2 года назад

First cat was a Topaz 14CX (as on Show as your cat episode 8). Now have a Dart/Sprint 15 (yet to send an updated SUYC video) 😁 Topaz was a plastic, bomb proof design - perfect for learning on

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yeah, very nice not to have to worry about maintenance so much when in the early stages. The Dart 15 is a little ripper!

@fauxcatpaw 2 года назад

Great video as always! Is there a difference in how the trampoline in rigged? Like the stitching in the fore or aft? My Hobie 14 has it in the aft but my buddy's Hobie 16 was flipped 180 degrees.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

On the Hobie 15 the lacing strip is at the front. I think it's a good design - with other boats doing it that way would lead to the problem of your pockets being at the back.

@nicko6710 Год назад

In Australia the Maricat is a perfect entry cat, performance wise doesn't give much way to the Hobie but far easier to control.

@JoyriderTV Год назад

Much cheaper as well I would think

@paulypaul111 2 года назад

Oooppps. My first cat is a Tornado.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yes!!! I would have done the same if I could have. Mine was a Dart 18

@sgravina 2 года назад

I'm a beginner. I bought myself an XCat. It's small, only 14 foot mast. You can put it on top of your car and assemble it at the water. It is almost impossible to capsize. Its really fast. But doesn't hold much, with more than one person it slows down a lot.

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Thanks for that, I never heard of the Cat, I'll check it out.

@ouralbox 10 месяцев назад

Hi. You are very happy. I am just choosing my first cat. My choice is xcat. Which one would you choose now after years of experience?

@dumbcat 2 года назад

for various reasons i don't think i will be able to get on the water in my area unless i buy an inflatable beachcat or dinghy sailboat. would be interested in any thoughts you have on these. might be a good video topic

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

Yes for sure - I've been trying to get hold of a @MiniCat - the world's favorite portable sailboat , out here for a while now.

@sylviedage1 2 года назад

I just bought a Hobie Cat 14. It has a boom. Is it possible to buy a sail with no boom and put it on my HC14? Any suggestion? Thanks

@JoyriderTV 2 года назад

We sometimes use a Hobie 16 easy Junior sail on our 14 that is boom-less works well especially in a strong wind. For boom-less the clew must be further towards the mast than the back beam.

@garyvoigt5090 Год назад

Hello. Great video. I was looking gor your email but cannot find it. Looking at a few hobie 16 Im going to buy and wanted your opinion if I could send you some pics. All I have sailed is a AMF sunfish and always wanted a hobie. I'm 67 now and just to sail around our q20 acre lk. On light to moderate winds. I did watch your vid. On buying a used hobie. Thanks, Gary

@JoyriderTV Год назад

I'll take a look totaljoyrider@icloud.com