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There are two rods I really like for beginners. One is the orvis encounter 5 wt. It’s lightweight, unintimidating and cheap. The other is more of a “type”…a 7 to 9’ 3wt is a great beginner rod, too. They’re light, super manageable and good for smaller fish you’ll wanna chase when you start out (brookies, panfish, stockies). Hell, I’ve been fishing for 30 years and my favorite rod is my 9’ 3wt…so it’s not like something you’re gonna “grow out of”
Joe - your tutorials are always great. Even for the seasoned angler. It's fun to watch and hear your take on things. Keep up the great work. I hope you and everyone at the shop are doing well. Make it a great one.
Great info once again! I consider myself an intermediate fly fisherman. Have had good success over the years with a entry level White River rod. Just purchased a Sage Pulse 5wt. Can't wait to try it out. Love all your videos!
This is pretty straight forward. For trout fishing as Joe is talking here, you don't need reels with fancy 'train stopping' drags which are generally expensive (relatively speaking) reels.
Yes I agree with the price of fly rods. But my friend would cough at a $2000 violin. His pride and joy of a violin is of an obscene value. Definitely not the normal one 🤣
Hi Joe. Amazing video! Thank you. A couple questions please. I’m a fly fishing newbie. Would a 6 wt, 9 ft, be okay enough for smaller 12-20” trout? I’m using my dads inexpensive Redington 5 wt set up. I was thinking of getting a 6 wt Orvis recon, etc... set up for myself. I wasn’t sure if a 6 wt would be overkill for smaller trout. I catch trout all the way from 12” to 5+ lbs. Eventually I want to get a 4 wt and 8 wt for Lahonton cutthroats... I know one rod can’t do it all.
Hi Kevin, thanks for the nice words. The most important thing is to properly use whatever you have. If I were shopping, it would without a doubt be a #5 vs. a #6. One great rod is by far more important than trying to build a quiver. Get a 9' 5 weight that you are in love with, have confidence in, and make any other investments in flies and other tackle.
Not sure if your question was fully answered. I own 3, 5 and 6 weights. Per your question, the 6 weight is overkill for small trout. It's simply not that fun and tends to whip the fish around if you aren't careful. The 5 weight is my workhorse. While I use the 6 weight for everything, it's my go-to for streamers. The 3 weight isn't just my go-to for small fish. More, importantly it's my necessary for small streams. There's often no room to cast a 9 foot rod, no need for distance, and no expectation to catch over a 2.5 pound fish.
Good stuff here Joe. Question for you, so I have a Nautilus XM spooled with SA MPX Stealth. It's the heavier grain 5 weight line, which you probably already know. Now, when choosing a rod do I need to consider this line type or a 5 wt rod won't be an issue? Currently waiting for shops to open again so I can physically cast em before purchasing. I've been scouring the web for the right choice. Since, like you said it's an investment. I want to get something that's more next level from beginner, but not prostaff status. Lol. Range I'm willing to spend is up to $300 Thanks again for putting out your knowledge and sharing your experience! 🎣😎
I'm sure red's is going to give you a thorough response, they are great about that. But I'll chime in a little. I've been at this sport for about 15 years now and am pretty hard-core about it. It does help for sure to have a true fast action rod when running a heavier grain line like that. A medium simply won't cast it as well. You can get where you want but you will find it doesn't have the back bone you will want it to have. Lotta options out there for sub 300 bucks. Redington vice, sage foundation, etc. I run a cabelas rogue for streamer fishing with a heavy grain bank shot line. One of the best rods on the market and its only 289. You just won't hear anyone promote it but cabelas. But I have been more pleased with it than any top of the line sage, orvis or Winston. The rod is truly remarkable. Whatever you choose, a fast action will suit that line better than a say... Winston boron xiii or a Clearwater. Good luck with your search
Let me suggest this, spend another $25 and get a SAGE! That is a very common line weight ratio, it's a "one line bump" and that is very good for beginning casters and lends itself to an intuitive discovery of the casting stroke. redsflyfishing.com/products/sage-foundation-fly-rods?_pos=1&_sid=c2e304dcf&_ss=r
@@loganrobitaille6774 Good to hear. I have the Clearwater in a 9wt and I got it as a combo just to have something for that kinda fishing. (4 large arbor) Honestly, that outfit is clunky and odd feeling. Stout rod for sure but leaning towards a different direction with that in the future. I do like what Redington puts out. I was looking at the TFO BVK, Clouser, or Pro 2. Ultimately, I'd like a rod that will safe me from when my cast aren't that good. Or not hurt me as much. I'm not really a brand loyalist, just a guy that wants quality. I'll definitely keep an open mind with your suggestion. Thanks. 🎣😎
That is a Sage DART. Its a wonderful little creek rod. It's as easy to cast as throwing "dart" hence the name. Fun rod! redsflyfishing.com/products/sage-dart-small-water-fly-rod?_pos=1&_sid=aeb3c7930&_ss=r
I personally don't guide much anymore, but our entire team here of guides are great. Friendly, proficient, and we have a gorgeous river right here in front of the shop.
Absolutely! There are some cases where you may spook the fish with a line that heavy, a 9wt is not a line for delicate presentations, but for open waters and using streamers it should work just fine. If it is any fun is a completely different issue!
Sir, I love your video and have gained a great deal from you. However, the “weight” of a rod is not an arbitrary number as you put it.; It’s the weight in grains for the 30 meters of the fly line. This “Weight “ is not for the rod but the line weight. This determines the corresponding weight of the rod. This formula goes back hundreds of years when the fly lines were not made from “man made materials” This is a different subject. Love your videos , just one last mention on “reels” are a mechanism for retrieving fly line….. I agree with you the drag is insignificant. I won’t go on. I repeat I absolutely love your fly rod presentation…… brilliant. You are also a great presenter. Please accept my very kind regards, as always. Ken, Rutland, England.
THE RULE: You should spend MORE money on your favorite fly rod than you did on your wife's engagement ring. (You'll get much more enjoyment out of the rod.)
