I was getting a lot of the same questions about my setup so, I shot a FAQ video. If you guys want more information check out the video in this link and see if it answers your questions. Thanks for watching guys. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-00M8nMkhXpE.html Conversion kits: The kit that I used: amzn.to/38cfI3Z centuryfuelproducts.com www.uscarburetion.com/ www.propanecarbs.com/ Fittings and hoses: 12ft 1/2npt Hose & Quick connect: amzn.to/2YFzP7s 24ft 1/2npt Hose & Quick connect: amzn.to/3g6EmFN Quick connect fittings: amzn.to/2BdOTQS Gas shut off: amzn.to/2plPiaA Bracket kit: amzn.to/2pok1Dj Help support the channel by using my Amazon links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases and your cost is exactly the same. Natural gas pipe size charts: www.uscarburetion.com/natural-gas-chart.htm soa.generac.com/manuals/8838386/0J9944 (See section 5.4.1 for piping charts)
i think it depends on the quality of the gas that you`re using cause more cleaner gas more gas will be deliverd and less other things so you`re gen has more potential power available
Lol! Not well made! You do know that in home natural gas has 2psi and has already been heated up and fully regulated at the meter! Lol just run a hose straight to the carb air cleaner with a purge cylnoid valve for safety! Lol! Boy this guy wasted his time buying that kit!
Great Ideas, BUTT A Few Notes! This Is My Profession/Business... 1) I'd Still Put a Ball-Petcock Gas Valve Prior To The Gas Quick Connects! 2) Make Sure That You Can Use Both Nat & LP Gas In Case Of Real Emergencies Since Most Power & Gas Utilities Will Shut Down The Whole Area Grid If It's Really Bad! Then You Won't Be Getting Any Nat Gas Either & Might Could Go To Bottled LP Gas Only...😋 3) Put A 110v LED Light Into The Side Of Power Box Connected To The Main Incoming Electric Line So You Know Quickly When Thr Grid Power Is On Or Off For Sure... They Are $1 on eBay...
If that is the case then a Generac Home Backup Generator would do no good. I did not know that the natural gas is shut down also. Kinda puts a damper on a backup system if I understand you correctly.
@@3dtexan890 In Some Area NG Also Shuts Down In Large Black Outs, Like In NY + NJ Years Ago... PS All "Gas" Generators Will Run With Either Natural Gas or LP Gas, It's Just A Matter Of Turning A Screw Fitting or Flipping Over A Orific-Jet On Olders Units? Refer To Your Owners Manuals For Exact Instructions?
@@3dtexan890 NG may well be shut off if there’s widespread physical damage - say from an earthquake or hurricane. You don’t want random broken homes spewing NG from broken or sheared off regulators. Leaking NG played a significant role in the damage in the Bay Area after the Loma Prieta quake some years back. For use in emergencies you will really want at least several days of propane if NG goes down. Most of the time they’ll have NG back up in a few days after they’ve capped off the broken ones. Most...
I enjoyed your video. I'll most likely get a PL one for mom's house. BUT being a red cross volunteer. I know in many cases where there is tornado damage or hurricane. The first thing is turn all utilities out for safety. Meaning the hole city. Gas water power
Back in the 60's, we had an oil well on our farm which produced natural gas as well as crude oil. The oil well pumper showed me how to run any small engine off of natural gas by making an adapter using a tuna fish can and a small gas valve. Worked great and was reliable. This was before OSHA - and people had common sense.
@@czarandmaeve Yes - We ran several things off of small engines running natural gas. We stepped down the pressure from the well head - it ran at about 800 psi. Regulate it down to about 8 oz. psi and use the brass gas valve as a throttle. Worked great.
@Greg W Yep - I learned a lot of common sense growing up on our farm. After that oil well guy showed me how to run small engines from natural gas, it wasn't long before I made a flame thrower powered by the 800 pound gas pressure directly off the oil well. I fired it up slowly because I knew that 800 lbs of pressure would make a mighty powerful flame thrower. It shot flames out well over 50 feet, but I was careful. Dangerous can be fun sometimes. Responsibility is the "key". (Not bad for a 12 year old kid.)
Great info! After all those Snap-On ratchets,etc.though, I was a little disappointed to see you use not one,BUT two crescent wrenches to tighten up that A/F bolt. I hope that,at least,they were metric crescent wrenches.
look closer and youll see its really a cheaply made anodized aluminum "adapter"......ive had many (more than id like to admit to) gun and car parts that were anodized aluminum that looked EXACTLY like that
@@IBWatchinUrVids It COULD be a high temp plastic but honestly I doubt it. It's likely PLA which will melt if left in the sun in a hot car. Will it be fine for this? probably.
@@RandyRandersonthefamous , PET-G is the preferred filament from a durability and gasoline vapor resistance standpoint. The owner may want to leave the carb and fuel system set up for gasoline for portability. Nylon filament is also an excellent choice but tricky to print.
If the male portion of the quick disconnect doesn't have a valve to shut off the gas flow when it's disconnected you will have a major gas leak if it ever comes off while the gas valve is on. I would suggest switching the male and female couplers on the generator end of the hose so that gas flows from the female end to the male end of the coupler to avoid any potential accidents
Good idea but then what shuts off air moving freely up the natural gas channel to the carburetor? Better to add a shutoff valve between the male disconnect and the regulator.
First, THANK YOU for the informative video. Second, the propane conversion is awesome. That and some tanks (previous poster said 2x100lb tanks) is a great idea. However, in your intro when you talk about if the power fails... hurricanes.... you can count on natural gas. No, you can't. Natural gas is delivered to your house through pipes/conduits/hoses [depends on code in your area] and powered by electric pumps... so no power = no natural gas. Propane is the key. See Hank Hill for more.
You are wrong! I live in the City most of my Life. Anytime we have NO Power... We ALWAYS have Gas! One time, it was 4+ Days without Electricity... All that time, our Gas is still working. NOTE: I can't recall there was a NO GAS outage where we live and YES..., that is 16+ years of my life!
@@JodBronson Unfortunately it did not work that way in Texas last winter. They lost both power and natural gas. Nothing was winterized, both systems froze.
A couple things I would like to add is: 1. You might have to upgrade your natural gas meter to accommodate the added flow of the generator in addition to any natural gas appliances you already have. 2. People need to realize that most small engines are supposed to have the engine oil changed every 50-75 hours of run time. Running continuously that is only 2-3 days so the oil needs to be changed at no more than 3 days of running. And in that 2-3 days, the oil needs to be checked frequently as most small engines running under a heavy load can burn through engine oil rather quickly. Most small engines only take 24-48 ounces and that can be depleted pretty quick. Awesome video! 5 stars. Would recommend!
you are funny, gas comes in at around 100psi then goes through regulator where it is dropped down to 3-4 inches of water column, he may need a bigger regulator but i doubt it.
Excellent video, so clear and concise, not being a Gas Engineer I had wondered how the adaption to Natural Gas would work without leaking out everywhere, but now I get it. Not sure I would have my main gas line outside for any idiot to turn on [A screwdriver jammed into the Valve] Without a Locked Cover and not to sure that I would leave my nice new Generator out Front for someone to steal. I am assuming you do not need a Registered Gas Engineer to install that NEW Gas Supply Line ? Here in the UK they would Hang you at the Gallows for doing such a thing, the public here are only allowed to read their Gas Meter to send off there readings to the Supply Company and nothing more 🤣- The industry has become so tight with EU Regulations. That issue regarding you looking out to see if the neighbor's have power, simples, just hook up a tiny LED to the outer case of the Consumer Unit and connect to the incoming side of the Supply Tails, cost to leave on 20c a year - I am guessing this would comply to USA Wiring Regs as it is permitted here in the UK on the grounds it would not be a Fire Risk . Again thank you for opening my eyes, you learn something new everyday, as they say Mr Spence Eng Electrical / Mechanical Eng
I just bought a propane generator. Can I just simply feed it with natural gas? Do I have to buy a special kit to feed the natural gas for the propane engine?
just a couple of facts : propane and natural gas are both dry so if you dont have hardened valves in your engine you can burn them up however most modern engines do have hardened valves . on power propane generally does produce a little less power / gallon of fuel but is also cheaper . my dad had 2 combines with the same engine one was on propane the other on gas the propane put out about 10 hp less.
Repair Geek, just came across this video, thank you for reviewing our kit! We are building up a catalog of venturi adapters built specifically for certain models (not just based on the engine model) and the feedback is extremely helpful, thanks for working with us!
Nash Fuel, happy to help. I'm glad things are going to be addressed. If you guys need anything else from me, shoot me an email. My address is in the description.
did you see where this kit blocked off the secondary fuel line in his application? with this kit installed it wouldnt be possible to run on gasoline properly anymore
BEFORE you start selling stuff over the Internet to customers try it out FIRST ! DON'T Assume, it makes an ASS out of YOU and Me ! I found that YOU selling "This CONVERSION Kit" an actionable cause. By the way, I am an Attorney. Be glad that you are NOT based in Oklahoma cause, I would have shut you down by now !
Shut them down for what? Selling parts made to fit an engine that can be fitted with a wide variety of different parts by different OEs? You sound like one of those ambulance chasers LOL
according to the maker the snorkel is designed to be crushed by the choke and recover to its original shape... even if you were to crush it for a prolonged period it would just take longer. apparently they use a specific material for the snorkel part designed for this
Great video. You helped me with my conversion of my Predator 8750 to propane. One comment about your quick disconnects. The one going to your generator needs to be reversed. The socket (female part of connector) prevents the flow of gas until the plug (male part of connector) is inserted and locked in place. Your house side connector is correct. If you turn on the valve from the house without the hose connected, no gas will flow. However, if you connect the hose via the quick disconnect to your house and do not connect the other end to your generator, gas will flow freely out the end of the hose if you turn on the gas at your house. Probably not a problem as you will always connect your hose to your generator before turning on the gas supply from the house, but I wanted to let you know about it.
Great project, lots of info. In our area north of Pittsburgh. When I call Penn Power,with a power outage call, they make a robo call back asking if our power came on. Keep up the good work.
Great video man. I did something very similar to my 11KW generator last year right before we Floridians got hammered with hurricane Irma. I ran my entire house with my generator on propane and it was great. I highly recommend these kits over using regular gasoline which would have been almost impossible to find in my area during Irma.
In my city gasoline in not allowed, for generators. Lucky a propane conversion kit is available for my Honda EX4500. We just had a 12 hour power outage, I have a 10 gallon propane tank, in 12 hours it used about 6 gallons.
Thank You. Have been considering natural gas. The pipe size chart helps. I currently keep two 5 gallon containers of gas. I rotate them for use in lawn equipment so I always have a fresh five to start out with if needed. But not having to deal with it would be nice. Regardless, a couple of months after investing in a generator and installing my switch and outlet on the house we were without power for 3 days and with a well for water, it was nice to keep things going.
Awesome video! I know this is an old video but coming from a person in the small engine and standby generator profession, there a few extra points that I feel are needed here: 1: The generator, for optimal performance and life, shouldn't drop under 58hz or ~3500rpm (or +/- 3% of 60hz/3600rpm). It could damage your generator and/or your appliances if it operators below those values. Best practice is to adjust fuel/rpm to achieve the correct rpm or hz to 3720rpm or 63hz with no load. 2: He doesn't explain it well, but you need some sort of transfer switch or you could fry your generator or start a fire in your house/powerlines. His is crude, but effective. (Automatic transfer switches can be purchased which will automatically switch between main power and generator power and/or could turn your generator on and off.) 3: You can freely switch between gasoline/LP/NG so long as you turn your respective gas valves on/off when switch between gasses. 4: 7000w is only enough to run an electric heater, refrigerator, and/or a few lights for emergencies purposes and/or for supplemental energy. You need at least a 20kw (MINIMUM) generator to power some/all of your house. Find out what your peak yearly usage is and purchase a generator that is at the LEAST 10% over your peak. 5: The minimum "safe" distance, from generator to house, that is legally allowed is 4ft and/or 6ft from a window. (may vary state to state) 6: Never run a generator or store LP gas inside of your house. 7: Extension cords need to be 10ga or lower for higher power output. The shorter and thicker the cord is, the better. (so long as it keeps the generator a safe distance from the house.) 8: All house to generator outlet wiring should be install by a trained professional. 9: With LP gas, for a 3000w generator or larger, you typically need a 120lb (MINIMUM) propane tank for sufficient pressure and/or run time. 10: Inverter generators are also a good option for emergency or supplemental power as they are very quiet and will regulate themselves to stay a constant 60hz. The downsides are they typically do not come over 7000w. (Also when converting over to LP/NG you need to adjust the fuel/rpm so the generator is producing the correct voltage.)
Good Video, I did my Conversion 5 years ago using the US Carb Motor Snorkel. FYI Reliance Controls Makes a Utility Power Back Alarm that I also installed to alert you When the power is back on.
THANK YOU: For a long time my Honda EX4500 sputtered and surged, after converting to propane. After watching you adjusting flow valve on the top or the regulator, I thought I should give it a try. I got it perfect, after playing with the adjustment ,generator runs like it should, so simple i'm sure other people, can use this advice.
In some instances but not always, the natural gas service is shut off to most places Incase the lines are damaged. So propane is the only way to go in this case.
I''ve been through two tornadoes and each time it was the same. Even if you just lost some siding and maybe a few windows, the local idiot authorities will order all electric and gas killed to even lightly affected homes. Even water in some cases. I don't know why but they do that. Tri fuel is the way to go. You can survive the storm, but surviving the local government may be the bigger challenge.
Hello and congrats for that usefull video... Im about to get a westinghouse Wg9500, I cant find any kit for the new models of westinghose PG... the old kits works?
Fantastic :-) Also, Propane has more specific energy than methane, so for an equivalent amount, it will have more "bang for the buck". In other words, if you need to, you can run it off of propane for longer with less, if you have a natural gas interruption.
I would only add that you installed one of the quick connects backwards. They should both be installed with the male connectors on the pressure side. This is a safety issue and you should add a note to the video. I am now retired but I was a master plumber and gas installer in my other life. Perhaps Nash Fuel would consider offering a kit with the hose included and add the correct instructions in the kit. Regardless, this needs to be addressed. It appears that you hired a professional to install the electrics... you should have at least consulted a gas installer as well. As with many DIY things around the house, you may not get caught by the inspectors, in your case almost certainly not, but in the event of a fire the insurance company would find this little error. Their ultimate answer is to not pay out the insurance claim...
Thanks Paul. I will be changing how the quick connects are setup. I'm going to make a revisit video and fix this issue. Also, I plan on addressing a lot of the common questions I've been getting. Thanks for complementing my electrical, I did it myself.
Some people out there.... let me rephrase.... *most* people out there that think that they're some kind of engineer and don't really have any idea of the concept would tell you that the mixture is too lean and you'll damage your motor, more specifically the rings and/or valves, because it burns too hot. Someone would have to have a very good explanation for me to believe that [vaporized, i.e. ionized] gasoline injected into the combustion chamber, valves immediately close and immediately ignited would have some kind of lubrication or cooling effect on the valves or rings. It's super hot inside there, no matter how you look at it. We should ask the weatherman to hop in there and tell us the "real feel" temp, just to clarify. Me personally, I'm a firm believer in it. Thanks for the video.
@Jerry Moody Yeh, Australia is in a bit of a thing about energy prices at the moment. The federal elections coming up are starting to laser focus on them. To be fair electricity is very expensive right now, my last bill quarterly bill was around $1000 however that was the winter bill.
You need to fit a NO VOLT RELAY. A contactor will drop of the mains and start the generator if you have the facility, which you don't. When power is restored the relay disconnects the generator and reconnect the mains power. You don't want mess up or there will be a large BANG.
Antony Bradbury that’s what I have on my hog farms, I have 1 22.5 KW white that runs on propane and then I have 2 55kw ones that have Detroit diesels and a 750L tank under the floor
What is wrong with you? People need to hire QUALIFIED persons to do these home interfaces. Stop promoting modifications that can injure you OR FIRST RESPONDERS.
Measure how much gas you use per hour. What capacity is your gas/propane tank? Ever try to get a tank refill during a hurricane aftermath? I am in Florida. After Michael, people are switching propane generators back to gasoline.
Hi, the spacer plate that you made is not necessary. The natural gas plate should go between the head and the carburetor. The air cleaner box should bolt up to the carburetor. Then you will not have the gap and will not need longer bolts. Very good video. Thanks
I know it's been 3 years, but here is a solution for recognizing when the power comes back on. Install an inline fuseholder, on the Line side of your electrical panel main breaker, and attach a panel light to that feed. Drill a hole in your panel cover to fit the panel light mount, attach it to the panel cover. The power comes back on and the panel light lights up. Then follow your procedure to eliminate the generator, then switch back to Main power. Old electrician here. Good luck!
Len dont forget to tell them to be sure to connect the proper size resistor I know a led is a dc device but with the proper resistor it will work on 110 vac or 220 vac it will just flash
@@howishunternotinprison5614 a rectifier bridge. For DC LEDs, yes. But there are similar "panel lights" 120v. That's what I used. My mistake for calling it an LED. Thanks for pointing it out. 👍
@@leninmi7579 you can use a led on ac..it will just light for half the cycle ..i have done it at work i am an old electrician too and we are starting to be a rare breed did you know for every 10 of us that retires only 1 is stepping up to take our place
@@howishunternotinprison5614 no I did not know that. It seems we may have to teach some of our young ones to enjoy the trade, or we could be in trouble one day.🤔
There’s a few of us younger electricians out here but the strive to be in these trades seems to be less and less as finding good apprentice help is hard to find!
Thank you for this awesome video!!! This is a great option, especially if you don't feel comfortable storing a lot of gasoline/propane, and also if you want convenience in a continuous source of fuel for your generator. My question is, what if my generator is already a duel fuel (gas&propane)? Will I need a different type of conversion kit so that I can use natural gas as well?
You can modify your existing propane regulator to flow more fuel for when you're running NG but, how to do it? I have no idea. I've never attempted it and I really don't have a reason to.
@@RepairGeek I took to your suggestion and began researching how to modify my existing propane regulator. I came across another natural gas conversion video where this guy used the existing LP hook up to the carburetor (his generator was also duel-fuel) to connect the LP hose coming from the governor regulator. His method allowed him to bypass having to install the spacer in the conversion kit because his generator technically already had one. If you don't mind watching the video I found (bit.ly/3atD9WG) it's only 4 mins long, and let me know what you think. For whatever reason, I trust your knowledge and opinion, can you tell me if you think it's safe and if it would pose any issues to do my installation the same way? Much appreciated.
Does natural gas still work in the event of a power outage? Pipes should be pressurized from distance away, and these stations may have backup power, but maybe there are valves and monitoring stuff that is powered from the grid in local distribution cabins that will shut off gas distribution if it looses power.
If they bring gasoline and have a long enough extension cord of sufficient gauge, then they can also have power. During our power outage after hurricane Wilma, I wheeled my freezer over to my neighbors house and shared in the feeding of the generator with fuel.
It starts getting crazy after a couple days of no power after a hurricane down here in Florida. I haven't had to shoot anyone yet, but have ejected the first #7 bird shot shell and loaded #00 buck shot on 2 occasions. It's amazing what the sound of a pump action 12 gauge shotgun can do. My generator is now locked in place with a very large chain that bolt cutters can't touch along with being bolted down to a concrete slab with uncommon "security" hardware.
That is a heck of a clean assembly. Only thing I would dare to suggest is, to make a "dry" assembly (something that everyone with a little bit of experience would do) BEFORE the permanent assembly using sealant and stuff. Great video!
So what im seeing is, you can still run gasoline or with the plate etc...once out of gasoline you can connect the natural gas or propane and fire it again?????
Great video. I saw your video first when looking at converting a gasoline only generator to Tri-fuel. We have the Predator 9000/7250 watts gasoline generator that I installed a Tri-fuel kit. I tried using an adaptor, but it caused problems running on gasoline. (It ran fine on NG). So, I bought the Motor Snorkel from US Carburetion which works great on gasoline and NG. (I don't have the connection for LP yet) You mentioned that you didn't believe the Motor Snorkel would work using gasoline. I can tell you it works great. No issues at all. Also, I noticed when running on NG, that it didn't surge much, like on gasoline. Personally, I wouldn't buy a duel fuel generator, if they have a conversion kit for a gasoline only generator. Using the regulator with the kit, always you to fine tune the fuel/air mixture, minimizing power lose.
Less energy density in propane or natural gas. Now if the engine is designed for it you can up the compression and advance the timing since NG has a much higher anti knock properties and regain a lot of that power. Conversions will always reduce power output but it is still better then no power at all.
As a small engine repair shop owner and 40 year mechanic, I would never use silicon carne in place of intake gaskets. That schmoo can get places you really don’t want it. Always use gaskets, either factory or homemade.
I agree. That and he used WAY TOO MUCH. That's a non hardening sealer we used on snowmobile engines to put the lower end halves back together. That stuff isn't cheap eat her. Over kill all the way around really.u
Good job on the video. I bought the regulator by itself and will drill a hole in the carburetor inlet and need to get it installed. Thanks for sharing.
i literally have the same exact set up - , except I have rigid 6800 and its a yamaha engine not honda - i have never had to use it thankfully - i didnt know about the 60 hz i will def fine tune it soon, i run it every 6 months for about 45 min to make sure it works ..and it works great- yes the hose and fittings were def expensive, I drilled holes but that mounting is genius. Did you just power the dryer? bc I have wondered about what this thing will power at once - heat, refridg, lights etc...Pls reply if you see this thanks vm!!!
It will power most of my house. It will do the dryer but thats it. My heat is gas so I can run my furnace well pump lights and TV without any issues. The only things I cant power up at all are my 3.5 ton ac unit and my 5hp 2 stage air compressor. It runs everything else without issues if you're willing to turn some things off the power up super high loads.
If there was a storm a tornado and houses was damaged the Gas line has a shutoff ball valve installed underground on the mains line and you can lose natural gas service during a storm. But if you have a large propane tank or tanks you will have power. Natural gas has less carbon so less power per cubic foot of gas, propane has more carbon and more power than natural Gas. But running natural or propane will not carbon up your engine like gasoline and the air cooled engine runs cooler on natural or propane. Also your oil will stay cleaner with natural or propane and last longer. But you will have less power with propane. And even less power with natural gas. Because the fuels have less carbon that burns and powers the engine. So a 4000 watt generator on propane will be 3000 watts and on natural gas be proably 2500 watts from a 4000 watt generator. So running natural gas is not a good choice propane is better.
I am a researcher at a major University. You are Wrong on two accounts. 1. It's the Hydrogen that burns 🔥 Carbon is along for the ride, & carbons up everything. Carbons up the head, exhaust, muffler & intake (P.C.V.). The less carbon in a fuel, the Cleaner the exhaust. Natural Gas is the BEST Fuel. Engines last 2 or 3 times longer. 2. The real reason, propane gas & natural gas make LESS horsepower, because it's a GAS. Gasoline is a liquid. Gasoline is a much SMALLER VOLUME. So the naturally aspirated engine can ingest more AIR. Gas fuels displacement of AIR, is the reason you have lower horsepower. But we have researched propane fuel and Natural Gas. With a engine designed for Natural Gas, we can make 25% MORE horsepower. We have a research vehicle (N.G.) that has double the horsepower. A properly designed N.G. engine, takes advantage of the 130 octane rating of natural gas. Yes 130 octane. Goggle it. You Welcome.
I do know that natural gas burns a lot cleaner (less emissions or by products blown into the oil) than either gasoline or diesel. engines running on natural gas tend to run better than on gas or diesel. there are a lot of long haul trucks now running on propane and doing quite well.
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Unfortunately no. Most generators use a mechanical governor to regulate rpm and won't know the difference between too low or too high RPM or frequency/hz. In turn it doesn't compensate enough for a full load to keep the engine running at optimal RPM. It's common practice to set your top, no load, RPM to 3720 rpm or 62hz to compensate for the load drop. If your fuel is adjusted correctly, your engine isn't overly worn, your governor adjusted correctly, and valve gap set correctly then the load shouldn't make the generator drop too far below 3600 rpm or 60hz at or near full load.
I'm thinking about doing it too. Biogas digester on the poultry/gamebird farm and refining/Filtering and bottling the gas and running tractor and lawnmower and whatever else off Biogas. I live in NC, but this is currently a pipe dream.
Any storm that produced damage in the neighborhood (tornadoes, hurricanes etc) the first thing that is shut off by emergency crews is the natural gas main. Natural gas will remain off long after a storm has passed. Each collapsed or damaged structure will have hundreds of leaks. Propane different story, but you are right back @ needing it delivered or filling up 20lb tanks.
I'm not saying anything other than when Hurricane Irma hit I didn't have power for 7 days. My mother in law has a standby generator that runs on natural gas and that thing never turned off for the entire 7 days.
I installed a tri-fuel kit on my grandfathers generator a few months ago and just got to try it for the first time yesterday from hurricane Laura power outages. As soon as it started I knew it was running lean and I had no idea how to adjust the air/fuel ratio. Glad I saw this video now I know it’s the bolt! I was trying to turn the brass screw on the regulator and it would not turn lol
Recommend adjusting mixture while under load . find max rpm then richen fuel with approx.50 rpm.drop don't want Alan running engine not good on exhaust valves true propane and ng engines usually have harder valves and valve seats with out valve rotaters
You said you had a problem not knowing when your power came back while operating the geny. All you need do is wire a 240v light bulb taken from a heater switch or stove into the breaker panel. This bulb will be connected at the main lugs of the breakers CAUTION ALWAYS HOT This small bulb can now be installed on your breaker cover as an indicator to say when mains power is back. Hope that helps.
Phillip Mathews The Kill A Watt plugs into the wall or extension cord. The fridge or freezer plugs into the Kill A Watt. The Kill A Watt reads voltage, hertz or cycles per second, watts the fridge is using, amps the fridge is using. I got my Kill A Watt at Walmart in the home electrical section. Make sure that your generator is running not under 60 hertz under load. 59 hertz will damage a motor! 61 hertz will not hurt a motor. I make sure that my generator is running at 60 to 61 hertz under load.
Sounds great but unfortunately if there’s a major earthquake like in California your gas lines will be broken and you will know longer have natural gas.
You raise a great point. It’s all very situational- I’m on the gulf coast- just had a hurricane and a few months prior- 110 mph winds…. Gas lines are not a drama- above ground electrical lines are. What’s a good idea for me- or this guy isn’t going to work for an earthquake prone area.
I am commenting before I watch this entire vid. My comment will be to remember to buy OIL for your maint of your genset. Spare spark plugs and any filters too. IF you get into a storm damaged area where you will be running 24/7, you will need to be changing your oil fairly frequently.
No Bullshit absolutely. It does take longer to dirty the oil, but the oil still breaks down faster in small engines where your oil sensor will shut down the engine, if so equipped.
Randy, mine uses gasoline, i use a whole bottle of Sea Foam, and fill the tank with Premium fuel...generator runs cooler...plus i shut off the fuel valve and allow the engine to run all fuel out.
@@ottoroth9377 Premium fuel (and Sea Foam) are a waste. High octane fuel starts out "Stale'r" than low octane. Octane is a measure of how far gas can be compressed before it self combust, not a measure of quality or how potent it is. In fact, the higher the octane rating, the less potent it is. The only thing you need to know is to always shut down the generator by shutting off the fuel (in the case of gasoline). Do this, and you can let it sit for three years with cheap (highly potent) low octane gas in it, and it'll start on the first pull... Assuming you remember to turn the fuel valve back on...
@@MatHelm I USUALLY TURN OFF THE FUEL VALVE SO THE CARB WON'T GUM UP, WHILE THE GENERATOR IS RUNNIG, I SHUT OFF THE FUEL VALVE AND LET IT USE WHAT FUEL IS IN THE FLOAT BOWL..REASON i PUT SEAFOAM IN THE TANK IS TO KEEP THE MOISTURE FROM RUSTING THE TANK, AND OF COURSE PRESERVE THE FUEL, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF GASOLINES IN THE CINCINNATI AREA SOLD BY GROCERY STORES THAT HAVE AS MUCH AS 16% OF WATER IN THE FUEL, SO THE "FUEL POINTS" THEY SAY YOU CAN USE ACTUALLY CAN HARM YOUR CAR...MY SILVERADO WILL NOT RUN WELL ON CHEAP KROGER REGULAR 87 GAS, BUT WILL PERFORM WELL ON 89 AND 93 OCTANE.
Otto Roth I worked on small engines for years one thing you’re not doing right is after you run it out you need to drop the bowl because they’re still going to be a full bowl of gas in there and that will turn to varnish
@@BillyBob-os7kr one thing I Do is shut off the fuel supply and run the generator until ALL fuel runs dry in the lines and bowl..the preservative in the fuel keeps the tank full of gas fresh. I've been around small engines for 55 years and know what is good, and not good.
No matter what fuel you run, build a simple battery inverter system to power lights and phones. Use the generator only when cooking, washing and to charge the batteries. Maybe 4-5 hours a day. Unless you need it for heat of course. Saves fuel and eliminates risk of nighttime theft.
One of the best videos I've came across durning my research (Great Work), I'm considering purchasing a 12000kw portable generator for hurricane season since I live in South FL to power my house in case of outage. I do have Natural Gas installed in my house and it would make sense to utilize this fuel source in lieu of many gas cans stored in my garage, my question to you is, would it be best to purchase a generator thats already equipped to run off gas and propane (Dual Fuel) and then convert? or just purchase a generator without the propane connection and then convert?? also can you provide a link for the conversation kit.. Thank you
Joel Doodnath First of all thanks. I really tried to do a better job than most of the other conversion videos out there. I have links in the description for all of the information that I used to put together my entire system. Including the kit itself. As far as should you buy a generator made for propane then convert to natural gas? So, engines that are designed to run on "dry" fuels have hardened valves and valve seats because, gasoline is a lubricant for the valves. Propane and natural gas do not lubricate. So, yes there is a slight difference in the engines. Valvoline actually makes a motor oil designed for natural gas engines. I wanted to cover this as well in the video but, for the sake of time I left it out. Personally I would buy a normal gas engine and convert it. The reason is this: the purchase price of a normal gasoline engine will be cheaper than a propane one. IF you have issues with the valves in the future you can remove the head or heads, (in about 15 minutes) take it to a machine shop, and have new hardended valves and seats put in it. And it will probably be cheaper than buying a "propane" generator from the start. I have to imagine this would only be an issue after 100s of hours of runtime. It really comes down to do you want to POSSIBLY go through that in the future. Also many of these generators come out of the same factory with different labels. Much like air compressors talked about in another one of my videos. For example this Ridgid I own was produced by One World Technologies. They also make generators under the name Power Stroke. The specs are the same, same Honda engine, same generator head, etc. one just costs more than the other. So look around and do some googling for more info. If you need more information email me. repairgeek365@gmail.com
I am a disabled vet and need power for some of the things I have to have. we have a well also and got lucky when tractor supply on labor day I got 15 5 off plus 10 % for my vet discount.I bought a 10k start and 9500 run my gen is duel fuel.It says you will lose 450 WATS running off propane I found it was 396 watts . I dad used a 6k gas gen set since 2000 . Thanks for video who need a propane hookup.
I have been watching a lot of these types of videos lately as I am looking into purchasing a generator. With all the benefits of natural gas and propane over gasoline that degrades over time etc, I think this is definitely the best way to go. I was so surprised that you are the first person that did this type of video that actually used proper mounting hardware instead of drilling holes in your frame. Glad to FINALLY see someone doing it the right way. Keep up the great work.
My content really isn't unique by any means. If you can't be unique you have to do it better than most people to be noticed. I hadn't seen anyone do a performance test either, which is why I did it. Thanks for watching.
My Electric and water they can shut off from a satellite basically. My Natural Gas they could shut off the whole system I guess. I have several big bottles of propane to run my generator and heat. No electricity needed and someone cannot shut off the propane.
No problem. I can't guarantee all of my videos are that way but I try to make sure you know what to expect if you're trying to do or buy what I am in the video. Thanks for watching.
Very well done. He doesn't assume you know very much and teaches you everything you might need to know. Many thanks for the amount of effort that went into the editing.
I would make sure to have plenty of extra propane tanks. if the power outage lasts long enough and is effecting your natural gas supplier they may shut down. also in some cases the utility company shuts down service for safety reasons, houses that have collapsed are probably leaking natural gas so to prevent injury to first responders it is common practice for utility companies to shut off the natural gas and electrical service. propane is a really good backup source. it will last forever without any additives and usually costs you less $ per kw to run.
I've never heard of a 3D printer that could use Aluminum. Most likely it was either drilled and sawn from a plate, or he used a CNC machine to shape the plate.
No real true need for a space or JB weld and then seal it up,,, in an emergency you can just use the exhaust gas hose going in the carburetor and you won’t even need to buy a kit however you can’t leave it unattended that’s just for emergency use only.
That is exactly what I want instead of a stupid snorkel. I tried to DIY my own snorkel I could only keep it running ( of course with some sputters and pops ) holding the primer down on the garretson valve. I will be heading over to nash fuel hope they have one for my powermate generator.
