How to Cover Wings and Fuselages in Brown Paper and White Glue makes a very strong wing.

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How to cover a wing or fuselage in brown paper and PVA(White Glue, Elmers). Makes a very strong wing and best of all its cheap to do.
I show the process from start to finish and then some examples of how to finish with paint or film.
Much cheaper than laminating a wing and probably stronger.
All you need is some brown parcel tape and white glue mixed 50/50 with water. If you can wallpaper then you can do cover a wing or fuselage.
At the end of the video, I show several of the models I've used this method on.
I make my wings with my Hot Wire CNC machine and have an eBook on my website
www.rckeith.co.uk/hotwire-cnc...
that shows how to build one with plans and parts list. Full details on the website rckeith.co.uk/

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@rckeith 6 лет назад

Let me know if there are any other how to's you'd like to see. I just like to build and fly and hopefully not crash. A few new builds are planned for 2018 including a bigger Hot wire CNC wing for FPV and a Tricopter. Plus some repairs. Looking to hit 1000 subscribers this year so if you'd like to it would be really appreciated . Thanks

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@gregsiadis5623 4 года назад

Use a light to medium heat iron to iron out your air pockets immediately after you’ve applied the brown paper does wonders brilliant video you have my thumbs up

@rckeith 4 года назад

Thank Greg that's a great tip I'll give it a try on the next build which isn't far off.😀

@thenatedog 6 лет назад

I have a playlist with several different people showing paper covering techniques. Added yours to the list

@jolllyroger1 5 лет назад

First airplane I ever flew I designed and built over 38 years ago when I was 13 from 2x4 pine ripped with a skill saw glued with water thinned white glue covered with news paper then painted with white glue then krypton paint..... Became a little brittle with age but worked well way to repair..... Later I used thin 24 hr epoxy thinned heavily that's much better but costs more.... The news print was old printed news papers.... Also used tissue paper on lighter planes like guillows

@jimmytiler5522 5 лет назад

The best glue to cover with is wall paper paste in gel form.Cheap hardens best consistency.Once you use it you wont ever use white glue again trust me.If you have ever tried to de wall paper a wall youd know why they use wall paper paste.

@Barwell999 6 лет назад

Excellent job Sir. Thank you.

@rckeith 6 лет назад

Thanks.

@alexfladung 6 лет назад

Awesome. Looking forward to more from you!

@rckeith 6 лет назад

Alex Fladung Thanks Alex more on the way. Just uploaded a new one on using LinuxCNC for making RC parts.

@iawnskicrew1195 3 года назад

excellent loved this cheers bud

@dutchflyingwings5862 6 лет назад

Excellent Keith.

@rckeith 6 лет назад

+Dutch Flying Wings Thank you. I enjoyed making the video.

@kammelryder 6 лет назад

Subbed, great video, thanks!

@dehweh2297 6 лет назад

Thank you.

@rckeith 6 лет назад

No problem

@BenErikNess Год назад

Made a comment on your website... on how did you cover the depron fuselage of your VC-10....

@BigAlNaAlba 5 лет назад

That was excellent Keith. I recently I have been making rib and spar wings from depron with a depron skin. As you probably know depron likes to shatter so a tough outer skin would be nice. 75 micron document laminating film is VERY heavy. Have you ever covered a built up depron wing in brown paper? My concern is that the shrinking paper would introduce a lot of warping? Also where do you get your pink foam from? I can get that white with black speckled jablite foam in B&Q. Keep up with the interesting videos. I liked and subscribed.

@rckeith 5 лет назад

Hi Haven't covered depron in brown paper so can't say but if you cover both sides at the same time it should eliminate any warping. Perhaps try it on some scrap foam first. I use to get the pink foam from Wickes but they don't seem to stock it anymore but I've heard the SIG Insulation do it. Had a couple of guys say they used them and they are OK with selling small quantities to modellers.. Thanks for watching.

@Thwarptide 5 лет назад

Might I suggest (in a kind way) that you ease off whatever coffee you've been drinking? 😁

@rckeith 5 лет назад

Don't drink it, just a tea aholic. Perhaps that's my problem. 😁

@gyrogearloose1345 2 года назад

@@rckeith I've got a feeling he may be referring to the speeded-up - i.e timelapse - video?

@MarkPrimavera 4 года назад

Keith - great video! What kind of paint do you use as the final? I'd like to use water based acrylics and apply it with an airbrush. Thanks

@rckeith 4 года назад

Hi Mark I've used water based and aerosol spray paints. I usually apply a sealer before painting like sanding sealer or non shrinking dope and that makes sure nothing gets through to the foam. Once it's sealed like this you can pretty much use anything. So water based acrylics will be fine. Thanks for your kind comments. Keith 👍👍👍

@MarkPrimavera 4 года назад

@@rckeith Thanks Keith for the information!

@rcbinchicken 5 лет назад

Thanks for making this! I'm keen to try this method but only have prior experience with clear packing-tape skins, and I thought I'd better ask: is there a rule of thumb for how much glue to mix, for a given wing area etc.? And if you overestimate the amount you need, can the diluted glue mix be stored in a container etc. for another build?

@rckeith 5 лет назад

Hi, I just mix up a fair bit and it stores just fine. But you'll find you don't need much even for a large wing. Hope that helps

@rcbinchicken 5 лет назад

@@rckeith Yes, that's good to know. Cheers! :D

@FlyBoy-ep6hl 5 лет назад

Hi Young man do you need to use brown paper or can you use light glass fiber cloth in stead with the White Glue metherd

@rckeith 5 лет назад

Hi I've never tried glass cloth instead of brown paper. I can't say really only thing to do is try a small test piece. Poly-C works on glass cloth very well. I covered my Hurricane fuselage with that and my T45 Goshawk. Its on my latest video on the channel. Hope that helps

@puteranansarunai6002 5 лет назад

Thnks sir. I was putting laminated stickers as skin on my styrofoam plane but it not gave me good results and often looses revealing bubbles at certain spots of the body due to surface tension or sun heat, I guess.. probably stickers and styrofoam not really good as direct combination unless if put something as a layer. Your idea are one that I should take as a solution. Tq so much sir for your video

@rckeith 5 лет назад

Thanks for your kind comments. It's a great method to cover and I've used it on many models. Really surprised how popular this video has been.👍

@Thalarctos. 4 года назад

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@truthhb2479 3 года назад

The gluten my country started to warp pit so I had to put the wings back in the phone beds and put weights on top for 3 days now my planes flash straight is an arrow

@thenatedog 3 года назад

Im going to use this process again when i cut out the prandtl-d

@rckeith 3 года назад

Hi Nathan, I use it for every wing. It's surprising how strong the wing becomes.

@thenatedog 3 года назад

@@rckeith i can get laminate pretty cheap but the paper is much stronger. the thing with laminate is its much more durable. you can take multiple hits and you can easily repair it. I get 200 feet by 28 inches for $100. Lifetime supply really. But its not good for paint. you have to paint and than cover with it

@nikleiser5888 4 года назад

What's your opinion on different types of laminate like Oracover, Fibreglass, Kraftpaper etc. ?

@rckeith 4 года назад

I think they are all OK just depends on the model really. Fibreglass is very strong and gives a nice finish but can be a lot more work. My favourite is brown paper and white glue. Quite easy to do and very cheap and if it doesn't come out well you can remove it quite easily by soaking in water and leaving for an hour or two. I did this on my T45 Goshawk when I rushed it and got a poor finish. The second time it was perfect. I usually apply some sanding sealer or non-shrinking dope and that makes it very smooth and tougher. Hope that helps

@nikleiser5888 4 года назад

@@rckeith Thank you.

@dhanprasadpradhan 3 года назад

Hi Keith, can you just provide dimension and airfoil you used for building this?

@rckeith 3 года назад

Hi Dhan all the details are here rckeith.co.uk/hot-wire-cnc-ymf-38-flying-wing/ including motor and prop used.

@dhanprasadpradhan 3 года назад

Thank you so much, i think this will help me.

@Sandokans Год назад

What strong eps foam is it? White Styrofoam eps 100?

@rckeith Год назад

It's just standard insulation foam from our local diy store in the UK. There is nothing special about it.

@Sandokans Год назад

@@rckeith Ohh I understand that but is more types eps 50 low density and finish at to eps 200 more density. But 100 eps is more the enaugh..But if you used low density foam, that is great news and if is strong enaugh.. Thanks allot

@robertsmith8119 4 года назад

I like the video instruction, but the volume is so low that it is hard to hear unless in a PERFECTLY QUIET environment. I do not find that around here very often. Please use a better mike or find some way to pick up the volume.

@rckeith 4 года назад

I made this video nearly two years ago and I do have better Mic's and camera's now. Yes completely understand and glad you enjoyed it despite the low sound.

@rickharms1 2 года назад

Hmmm, interesting. However, it seems that it would be relatively heavy.

@rckeith 2 года назад

Not at all I've covered many wings like this and all have flown fantastic. Give it a try you'll be surprised. This method has been used for many years in the RC hobby.

@rickharms1 2 года назад

@@rckeith Wow, that was a quick response. You must live by your computer. :-} Thank you. I built my first RC in 1971. Used the traditional silkspan and dope (dangerous word) and a single channel radio with a rubber powered escapement for rudder control. I now use film. My planes are all of built up balsa, open frame. so this method is not appropriate. I am in the process of building a 4 axis CNC foam cutter, probably with your machine design but using Planet-CNC controller. I built two CNC routers using this controller, I love it. At 72 years old, I am not adverse to change and experiment.

@Failer__ 6 лет назад

Can you tell me what is exact name of this brown paper, or can you provide any link for it? I can't seem to find any material like this in homeware shops in Poland. The closest I can get is food packaging/ cooking brown paper. Will it be fine or is this something completely different? I'm scratch building a 180cm wingspan plane, and I'm afraid I really need it to stiffen my construction. image.ceneostatic.pl/data/products/41109895/i-ravi-papier-do-pieczenia-brazowy-38cm-x-6m-gos000652.jpg

@rckeith 6 лет назад

Hi Its just brown parcel paper usually used to wrap parcel sent through the post. Here's a link on Amazon UK which may help you to locate it Poland amzn.to/2J1l4Wl Can't really tell from the image if its the right paper, sorry. As long as the paper is thin and can absorb the glue it should be OK. I've heard Christmas wrapping paper can be used as well. Hope that helps Keith

@Failer__ 6 лет назад

Keith Howlette aaah, thanks. I haven't thought of packaging paper. We do have such papers in Poland, rarely used though, that's why I didn't think of it. I've found 100cm x 55m for 15zł, which is... About $4. www.e-gtp.pl/pl/p/Papier-pakowy-90gm2-100-cm-5-kg/287?gclid=CjwKCAjw3cPYBRB7EiwAsrc-ubU4nS2Qyw_sbItzrglwGAm3xsjy3tT1SZXuLay7COKtnkjcbLYrOBoCYPcQAvD_BwE P.S. Cooking paper won't make it, I've checked in my kitchen, it's shiny on both sides, so it wouldn't soak up any glue.

@rckeith 6 лет назад

Yes thats it, good luck with your build

@thenatedog 6 лет назад

Awesome. I have started this process a few months back on a big f100. Check my videos.

@rckeith 6 лет назад

Thanks Nathan, that looks a mighty big F100. Check my video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hJ7SrAIasx4.htmlm47s at 9mins 47 and I use a digital inclinometer to check the tail incidences. Its useful because you can zero it out on the wing and check the tail.

@thenatedog 6 лет назад

Thanks! I had some peripheral knowledge of that but had never seen it done before.that looks like a lot less work than my setup. The thing with the iron on laminate is that it is very easy to take off and replace. For fpv guys that are coming down hard or going thru trees, being able to remove and replace the laminate is an important factor.