How To Craft Legendaries CHEAP in Guild Wars 2 

Absolutely meant to include this and forgot. Cheers!

Dude I've been playing for years and always "knew" this, but never once connected that this meant skipping the HoT hero point trains. As a primary WvW player... my god this is a "duh" moment for me lmao

I hate WvW so much but what me and my friend does is play at like 2-4 am when no one is in WvW and just capture everything that isn't a keep, then switch map and repeat

That is so correct. Armor collections are fairly easy and it will force you to get into raids, wich are also one of the easiest way to get ascended weapons or pieces of armor. It is cheaper too, a whole six pieces pack of armor costs about the same than a leggy weapon. An advice if you want it: Start with the legendary amulet (wich costs 0 gold) and save ALL the materials you get from it. I know you will want to sell them, but trust me, if you save them all in the bank you will have a much easier time doing armor later on, and it will save you a lot of gold. have a good time!

@@hectorgc1455 As someone who has all legendary trinkets, backpack and armor runes, sigils and almost all wepaons. I can clearly say you're fully correct. Getting armors and trinkets solves your main "gearing up" problem. Crafting backpack first is also quite improvement, all ways to obtain backpack either require some serious currency farming and there isn't much easy way to get them. Runes are okayish QoL improvement but not mandatory since you can change runes anytime if you have legendary armors. Sigils other hand should be basically last thing you should craft. When we comes to weapons it should be crafted after trinkets armors and preferably runes are done. Crafting some meta weapons ( like sword, axe, staff ) will give you real freedom but crafting 1 weapon requires lots of gold. Not easy to do.

i havent crafted a weapon legendary it is so cheap to get an ascended one or stat change the ascended weapon.

@@hectorgc1455 yo can you elaborate more on " Start with the legendary amulet (wich costs 0 gold) and -SAVE- ALL the materials you get from it" like what? you mean the mats you get from salvage or just save since it doesnt cost anything.. its W5 amulet ye?

@@Anginafreak I mean that in the long, long quest for the legendary amulet from the Season of Dragons you will get a lot of rewards (yellow expensive materials and much more). It can be tempting to sell those materiales, but they will be very useful for your legendary armor pieces when you start that process. Dont sell any reward the amulet quest gives you, and you will have a much easier time crafting your leggy armor.

How much time it takes one loop?

@@warchiefballer8809 if your being efficient, with just doing south meta, tagging as many events as possible, and doing the map dailies etc, I'd say about every 5-6hr's if your on a single commendation track.

@@JayRandomness07 Do I have to go through the whole loop,or I can just blitz it,like just do a bunch of events and then I leave? Or massive meta eventing?

@@warchiefballer8809 do the full south meta then look for a fresh map to repeat once you've completed south. north takes way too long to be worth doing commendation or gold wise, only worth doing north for achievements or the infusion.

@@JayRandomness07 I see. Thank you for the advices! Have a wonderful day!

It's absolutely a life saver, but it's also definitely cool to just wander around and explore the maps in a natural way your first time through. If you've got most of the tradeable materials covered, you're starting out quite a bit stronger than most players. Glad the video helped!

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It's worn me down a bit, so may have to drop upload speed in the future to be honest, but the next video is definitely not concise nor does it provide any information haha

@@abree107 all good my dude! Gotta take care of yourself first! Lol well either way I'm looking forward to it!

Wholesome commenter, good job @TwizzleBear 🫡

I believe in you mate. The first couple are always the hardest. Just pick a weapon or trinket or armor set and get started. Deciding to do it is the first barrier.

Do Return to Seasons of the Dragon achievement. I unlocked my first legendary item yesterday doing that. No crafting needed you just have to play through the story and do achievements on the maps. I'm going to try to do the backpack next I heard you can get it from doing fractals but I need to lookup exactly what is required. I've only done T1 daily fractals before so I am hoping it won't be hard to find groups for the higher tier fractals.

Same. I actually stopped previously because of the PvP to do PvE methods (WvW is still PvP) they have in the game. Recently stopped again because I saw they haven't changed it (actually lowered abysmal drop rate even lower for legendary components many years ago) and have gone full on in that direction. It is a PvP-based game so that is on me though.

​@@Casualsmoothnah its not really on you, I think its fucked anet forces its players to play game modes they dislike for an extended period of time for legendaries. There should be a way to get gift of battle in any game mode, not just WvW. Other MMOs get shit for forcing players into PvP or PvP players into PvE for the best gear but not anet.... it's weird.

Woops. Here it is: fast.farming-community.eu/

The recipes are really complicated, but working on the legendary doesn't have to be. Just target 1 thing at a time and start with the untradeable components.

I'm still rocking my ascended gear haha

Absolutely agree

I almost considered putting the HoT vendor thing in, since a lot of casual players develop a stockpile of aetherium but was really trying to cut down on time. There's so many janky things to learn about this game. Just figuring out that fractal end chest rewards are unaffected by xp boosters completely, but are affected by magic find the same way open-world mob drops are was kind of crazy.

@@abree107 yeah, it's a very complicated game when you really think about it. in WoW, it's like "hey, do PvP, eventually buy good items" or "do Dungeons and Raids, and you'll eventually get what you want" but in GW2 it's like "so okay, bare with me.. [60 minutes later] and that's if you don't want to wait on random drops, but you can also.. [another 30 minute explanation]"

A lot of it depends on the player, their perspective, and their playtime. I know players that can crank out a legendary from scratch weekly or 1 every couple days if they have the starting capital. Then I also know someone who has spent a good 4 or so years working on 1 legendary and still isn't done. Relatively speaking though, 1k instead of 2k would be cheap by comparison, which is the sort of idea of the video. It's not ever going to truly be "cheap", it's one of the most end-game oriented goals for most players. People like the word cheap though.

@@abree107 if you have the starting capital *and* the right equipment for a set of specs to play specific game modes that provide a lot of gold (like weekly raids + CMs), you can definitely make legendaries that fast. But this isn’t the typical casual player. The players that are able to craft legendaries that fast are usually already at the point where they have the gear they need (ascended or legendary) to play end game content (on diverse specs to be able to accommodate various group compositions) and they usually also have the kill proof to play such game modes with pugs. Casual players usually have trouble getting invited into pug groups for end game content because they lack these things. The average casual player also doesn’t have the luxury of being able to play such end game content regularly with a static group or with well organized runs from their guilds or experienced friends. All of these prerequisites are why I think there is no loophole for new players to craft a legendary faster than usual. TL;DR it might be easy for experienced end-game players with a fairly high starting capital to craft legendaries fast but casual players are not able to cut corners when crafting their first legendaries.

@@WhoArrrrghYou The first legendary I crafted to sell from a starting point of 50g or so took about 2 weeks and only involved open world for gold sources (and no it wasn't by putting in obscene playtime). The only difference now is that every single material required is cheaper, there's more ways to get them, and there's resources for people (mine or otherwise) on how to do it. If you were crafting a gen 2 then it'd be just a bit more effort and time than that. I understand what the perceived sentiment about crafting legendaries is, but perception and reality turn out to be quite different in this case. As I've said to a few people, the hardest part is deciding to actually do it. As for getting into content through LFG, I don't really have a solution for that. I can say I made all of my "from scratch" legendaries before doing a single raid and before starting to do high tier fractals, so it's not really necessary for that. With the way the game works and has worked for a while, LFG just isn't really a good way to get into those gamemodes. If you're willing to join voice chat and willing to learn a suitable build for the content you want to play, there's people out there willing to help you. In my experience, the people who complain of not being able to break into that content are either only looking at LFG and not guilds/discords, people finding inappropriate builds (*cough* Metabattle for anything but PvP/WvW), or people just downright refusing to put any thought into the process. To be clear, this isn't me flaming the people who get misinformation or choose a build without knowing it was made by someone with no clue what they're doing. I did the same thing. I was the power druid borderline griefing your tier 3 runs. I've got no shame in that. The process is not intuitive and that's on ArenaNet, but if someone genuinely wants to break into content and is only looking at LFG instead of doing a few Google searches, that's on them (and it was on me to finally figure out how to play something other than power druid). ESO has 3rd party resources to fix their lack of intuitive trading. OSRS has 3rd party resources to fix their lack of intuitive... almost everything. Guild Wars 2 has it for breaking into raids and fractals. Experiences may differ and I have no doubt some people have given it an honest look and not found what they were looking for, but a lot of solid resources are well established now. If anyone is reading this comment and needs direction to a good, positive training environment for new players, hit me up. I don't really wanna post a link to a Discord that isn't mine publicly without permission, but shoot me a DM and I can help you get somewhere you can learn. In-game: abree.8734 Discord: abree107#7791

I can craft a legendary in a day or two depending if I have a gift of battle or not. To be honest it’s not difficult to make a legendary making your first can be hard but once you start and most importantly you sell it, yeah you’re set

legendaries aren’t the most difficult tbh, the current legendary im crafting (xiuquatl, gen 2) isnt too expensive. the crafting process is just so roundabout that ive spent more time figuring out how to get some of the mats than actually having to grind for them. As of now i just need 90 more spirit shards to craft it due to having to throw almost all spirit shards in the mystic shitter. It just took me about 4 ish weeks of actual in game Effort in total, i’m by no means an end game player. I pretty much only do open world content because i don’t have any friends who play the game or a guild to do raids/strikes/fractals with.

Fractals (both dailies and farms) are really good for spirit shards if you have the Empowerments unlocked. Even if you don't they're still decent. You can buy Dessa Journals with spare relics for even more spirit shards. Living world season 4 trains are probably the best for open world farms if you have the empowerments there. Beyond that most other methods are pretty steady. There's a few janky spirit shard only farms people have made, farming ambient mobs for example, but I'd not recommend those as it's far more efficient to choose methods that provide liquid gold and spirit shards at the same time.

I'm not sure what you mean. If you're talking about leveling crafting disciplines, use gw2crafts.net. If you're talking about the masteries then there's a list of easy ones somewhere online.

It's a big goal. Just chip away at it.

if you ever need friends, im so down. I also felt this way but now im 3/4 of the way to my first legendary! itll happen over time :)

There's a handful of top AP hunters that craft them just for the AP they give, but most people just don't realize how much more expensive it can be for some of them. It's good to make sure you're aware of the trade off before deciding to go through with it.

We found a baron everyone!!

@@dezm1 opposite of a baron lol. barons make gold within the game, they‘re just very good at it. this would ne a „whale“

Unfortunate. I quite like going back and doing dungeons, but the stack of exchange vouchers keeps growing and making it less necessary to do things like dungeons.

I believe in you to sort it all out.

I suppose it depends on the player, what they enjoy/don't, and how they decide to do it. If you're a PvE player and don't enjoy WvW for example, that gift of Battle can be really frustrating to get for your legendary. If you're in that position and trying to rush it, it will be very unfun. If you slow down a bit and just do some of the easy WvW dailies each day while you work on something else, then you can get it over time while you do everything else and that will keep you to mostly PvE oriented stuff. If you're trying to make many legendaries to bind or trying to sell them for a profit, doing that with no starting gold can be slow and frustrating. In that case, you can make it easier by getting some starting capital and then recycle it, spending only your profit and keeping that seed gold so you're never forced to start from scratch again. Of course, there might not be a way for you to enjoy it, but I do think most players can enjoy the process if they change how they do it to either take it more slowly or do it in a way that fits their playstyle.

All I see is 5:11am and that I probably should hit snooze a few more times.

Trading it on the overflow discord with a high rep trader or by using a middleman will be the safest and fastest way to get the most value out of it. If you need more direction on that, check out my video on trading.

I did cover this and just blatantly don't recommend it for most players. The variance is extremely high and it's actually more expensive for a lot of them if you're rolling for specific precursors.

You shouldn't need a guild for any part of the legendary, although I'd recommend joining one in general. Everything you need should be in the gen 2 section.

@@abree107 Okay thanks :)

Start with the untradeable parts and then work your way out from there. Just doing daily stuff and the occasional meta farm of your choice will chip away at it.

Well, its good thing we dont really need legendaries or even ascended, it is just something to keep in mind and maybe farm in future when there is lack of content and we already pssively hoarded buch of stuff.

There used to be someone in my guild with 36 gifts of exploration for the same reason. It was absolutely insane and they made a ton of gold turning them all into legendaries.

I somehow didn't get a notification for this. There's no stat difference between ascended and legendaries. I've gone all the way to the fractal god title and the character I use for fractals has 0 legendaries they use. It's 100% quality-of-life and cosmetic.

The TLDR is you use your account bound materials to craft a legendary with tradeable materials provided by the other party, then send them the legendary and get a commission for your part.

@@abree107 Oh, that's interesting. And very high-trust. How much return can you generally expect for such a project, and what do you usually need to have lined up to volunteer for it?

@@cloudcleaver23 Every untradable component and the required crafting professions. Gen 1s go for 600ish and gen 3s go for 700ish at the moment I believe, so you do get the lions share of the profit. The best way to get into selling those is to build rapport with people in the Overflow Trading Company Discord server.

@@abree107 Well, I'm already in the right place, albeit just to try and salvage people's ecto. It seems like that doesn't actually build rep there though, so I assume you need to either buy or sell some spendy items in there before this door opens to you.

@@cloudcleaver23 My advice is to join a guild or at least hangout and make friends. I don't do this particular trade, but in general I'll trust a guildmate I've played with and spent time in voice chat with over just about any rando, regardless of how much rep they have. Some people require rep or collateral, some don't.

GW2Efficiency.com has a page for legendary crafting that shows the profit numbers in the right column in green. For Gen 1s it's currently like 500-750g profit and for gen 3s it's currently like 800-1000g profit if I recall? And that's with the seller incurring a 15% tax so the buyer would end up spending an additional 300g or so on gen 1s and 450g or so on gen 3s, on top of those profit ranges. And they very very very rarely fill on the buy order side. Once you craft a couple legendaries the process actually becomes surprisingly easy, which is why it's such a popular method in the gold making community.

I recently crafted a legendary and using my own mats spent roughly like 750g but the same legendary was listed over 2k in the tp.. it's a massive difference

@@Tonino_O Oh wow. Do you mind telling me which legendary that was? I thought making a legendary would cost like 3-4k

@@Adam-qz9ec For weapons, gen 1 craft costs are currently in the 850-1100g range. Gen 2 craft costs are around 1500-1700g. And gen 3s are about 1500-1550g. And that's just buy ordering all the tradeable materials and throwing it together. It doesn't include any of the tips in this video for saving gold by getting some of the materials yourself. You have to remember, the sellers of legendary weapons on the TP only receive 85% of the face value after taxes and they still make big profit margins after that. A lot of the "value" is associated with acquiring account bound materials like gift of Battle, exploration, spirit shards, obsidian shards, etc. This is why legendary crafting is a popular method in the gold making community. You can sort of think of it like a structured but diversified farm that doesn't pay you until the end of the whole process. But when you get paid, you get PAID. Efficient legendary crafters can expect to make 50g/hr for their whole process, give or take a bit, once their weapon sells. A lot of them are considerably less efficient, but I think most players would agree that 40g/hr or even 30g/hr is a pretty solid rate to farm gold with a repeatable and diverse method.

@@abree107 Hot Dayum. That's pretty eye opening. Thank you for that! I will without a doubt craft one now instead of buy one.

The best methods for the old armor sets are included in this video. The new set of armor they just released isn't.

@@abree107 i mean like any recommendation on focusing on raid, wvw or pvp methods

@kurisu1204 I can't speak to the new set, but PvP/WvW is definitely easier than raid armor. But if you hate those gamemodes, then that's obviously no good.

@@kurisu1204 Easy summary here. If you want an easy but LONGGGG grind set, get PVP/WVW leggie. Want a complex as heck but shorter set? Go the raid path.

The dailies and camp flipping methods are too bad. If you really hate it, make sure you get the boosters ready.

There's an absurd amount of audio issues with this video if I'm being honest. I had to drop the perfectionism and settle on 'good enough' after a few hours of fixing audio stuff. Frankly, if that's the only part that sounded weird to you, I'll take it as a win. It wasn't my best recording work, wasn't all done in 1 session, and the fact that the video is so long and has so many cuts only served to make it even worse. I've got a few ideas for addressing it in future videos (plus hopefully I never make a video this long again).

Lots of different gold making methods. Most of it is made up between flipping, player to player trading, farming, crafting, and grinding out fractal god. Now that I'm more focused on the videos and real-life stuff, most of the liquid gold on my account sits on the side line. It takes a lot of effort to move that much gold and even more effort to move it into items and processes that are profitable enough to be worth doing. Quite frankly, I'm lazy and haven't leveraged all of my liquid gold into making more gold since I hit 20k or so and that was ages ago. Over time, I've carefully liquidated most of my materials and items into raw gold using very efficient methods. I've always been more TP focused than most other gold makers so it was a bit easier for me to do than it probably would be for others. I actually got really close to 150k while editing this video, but found an opportunity I liked and ran myself down to 144k again. The raw gold makes for good shock value in videos, but it can't really earn any returns when it's sitting in my wallet. Liquid gold is a much better metric of gold-making performance. Probably a bit more rambling than your question called for...

@@abree107 Not at all, I really appreciate the thought-out response! I did some flipping and investing myself for some time which got me to 10k (peanuts compared to you I know), but it either is so much work (the former) or takes ages to be profitable (the latter). Never really got the other gold-generating methods.

@@96lol820 Those have definitely been my favorites, but I've also really enjoyed trading. Meeting people through trading is really the only reason I've kept playing and the only reason this channel exists.

@@96lol820 only real difference between 10k and 150k is time invested and obviously capital you can leverage. I find myself doing a lot of the same stuff now at 75k liquid that I did at 15k, only difference is I can put more capital into a wider variety of profitable crafts and therefore earn gold quicker.

@@abree107 Completely caught me off guard that you actually answered this question and didn't give a vague answer like saying 'I played a lot of drizzlewood coast bro'

If you hold onto your materials, you might open the crafting calculator at some point in the future and find that you have 90% of the stuff you need already and then it won't seem like such a big deal to craft it. It's also definitely one of those things where it gets much much easier after the first couple times. The only super killer thing that you should avoid doing is dumping all your raw materials on the TP and then instabuying a legendary with that gold. It'll end up costing a good 20-25% more doing that vs. hoarding materials and buying a legendary p2p using stuff like ectos or t6 materials. Even just thinking ahead a little bit like that will at least give you a much better price if you choose to buy one.

I can totally sympathize with this perspective. Twilight took me over 2 years to complete and every legendary since got faster and faster as I found out what works for me (making gold and material income methods). The time between my very first to my most recent legendary is about 6 years and I now have all 5 legendary trinkets, a backpiece, heavy and light armor, 8 weapons, and one piece of the medium armor. Meaning in 2 years I made one legendary but the following 6 years I made 27. You totally got this! Everyone starts somewhere

Bottom of the link list in the description. It is a bit old at this point though.

It would be more accurate to say several dozens of hours, maybe a bit over a hundred if you don't follow anything in this video. And last I checked gem prices, legendaries are a 120-200 USD swipe

Agreed.

Its always more fun to grind with a friend :D

@@notsarahatall3164 Friend ? What is that ? xD

If you're still playing, check out metabattle/snowcrows/guildjen for specific builds for your profession. Also do daily and weekly vaults! It's by far the easiest way to get ascended gears and you can even get a legendary starter kit from it!

The only infusions my firebrand wears are ghostlies. They're all the same stat though so it just has the appearance of 1 ghostly infusion.

@@abree107 erm actually i was asking about your outfit though xD, would you mind telling me

@@lucahohuang465 Ah, metal legion tshirt, golden racing scarf, ceremonial sandals from icebrood strikes (like 20s on the TP), and aetherblade legs. The aetherblade legs are the only thing that involves gemstore, but if you're not playing a heavy armor class then you can find like 30 plain leg skins that are free.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. You get a lot of laurels from the vault as well.

But you got there in the end!

They provide all tradable materials and give a commission once you craft the legendary weapon for them.

@@abree107 that is only obsidian shards... Gift legendary weapon would make more sense to do it this way. Although, I have never heard of anyone paying for legendary crafting in this way

The price point on those has gone down quite significantly. It used to be a viable option if you were quick at completing them; Kaineng was particularly decent to farm. Right now, I definitely wouldn't recommend it. It's entirely possible for the prices to change again in the future though, so that's something to keep in mind.

Last I knew it was $110-150, but prices could have changed. I'd personally recommend going through making your own. It feels great once you have it done and it pushes you to try things you wouldn't normally do. That said, you do you.

@abree107 thanks, I've already made 3 legendaries on my own back in the day gen 1s, I really want bolt sword but idk If I have it in me to craft. Currently not alot of time on my hands and I'm still trying to unlock flight mount 😆 (feels impossible for returning player). Just checked prices and rates and it's 80 dollars, I don't mind buying it since all my mainstay classes use sword.

For most players, crafting legendaries is quite a long term goal. I wouldn't get too caught up in making it the only thing you work on in the game if you find it that intimidating.

Gw2crafts.net Leveling crafting is the only time you will ever hear me endorse instant buying.

I'd say go for it, but you'd probably have to take away the "pro gamer" pfp if you paid money to avoid playing a game. That's almost like the opposite of being professional, paying them instead of them paying you.

If you make it a priority and chip away at it, you'll find it's not so bad of a task. But if you don't care about legendaries then you can definitely play a long time without them. I've got a very close playtime to yours and my armory only has the freebie amulet from the return achievements and 1 weapon.

I remember back when game came out so many people farmed those super fast I dont know how, but bunch of sunrises and dusks were swinging around.

It depends on the material and your valuation of spirit shards.

I forgot to add, that the best place i found to acquire those mats and fast is drizzlewood coast, i hope it helps other on that task without spending much gold only thing is you need to manage the keys thing with the purchase limit of 15.

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A lot of it just comes down to different releases and systems that have come out over time. For better or for worse, they try a lot of new stuff.

You can check on GW2Efficiency.com, most gen 1 precursors are a loss to craft through the collections. They require a large number of ascended materials to craft. Even the ones that DO save gold to craft aren't worth it time-wise unless you're an achievement hunter; 40g savings is not worth a full day of running around and doing the collection tasks. One thing is for certain, if you're only "spending" 5g on a precursor then you're not valuing any of your materials (or your time for that matter) and that's simply not correct. Your materials have value and your time has value, both of which are non-zero. The precursors are 1 spot that is very difficult to save gold on and I also did use a more expensive example in the video; most other precursors will be cheaper than that one.

@@abree107 I said cheap in terms of gold. I agree, my time has value and if I factored that in, I won't waste it playing video games, instead I'd be working -- so that's never a factor. Just to be clear, your video is a great guide, I simply disagree with your title. If you want to make a cheap legendary guide, it has to include the cheapest way possible of getting it. That was my expectations when I clicked on your video. In comparison, I expected in your Best Gold Farming video when I click it to include Dragonfall, which it did and I fully agree -- your video agrees with your title.

@@EnzoVinZ That still doesn't address the fact that it's more expensive to craft most gen 1 precursors than it is to buy them. In terms of gold, buying them IS cheaper for all but ~4.

If that's your hold-up, I'd advise just waiting a couple months, letting everything build up in your material storage, and then checking back in. If you connect your account on GW2Efficiency you can put the legendary you want into the crafting calculator and select the "use owned materials" option to find out the value of what you're missing. It might surprise you how much you will passively accumulate. The first legendary is always the hardest and it gets easier with every single one you make.

Laurel bags are the best way to target tiers 3 and 4. There are central tyria metas that would give those materials, but when a different map gives several times as much gold, it just doesn't make sense to do those metas for the materials. Target farming materials of any kind (including leather in lake doric) is just not really worth it.

@@abree107 but arent laurels basically the rarest currency in game? as far as i remember u only get them from daily logins and ap-reward chests no? or is buying said crafting materials literally the only use of laurels? while im more or less a veteran, im mainly playing wvw for a few years now so i really dont know about most of the pve related stuff. oh, and tyvm for your answer, keep up the good work.

@@lordflunder It's currently the best use to get gold value out of laurels and if you're using the materials yourself instead of dumping them on the trading post, that's even better. The laurels come in slowly, but most veterans have a handful.

This would be quite the length to go to for that. I don't forge, so I've not got any precursors to sell. Precursors are also just generally better to sell player-to-player as opposed to the in-game trading post. A while back, I did flip underwater pres on the TP, but your risk is much lower with those as the price is only 30 or 40 gold per item. Anyways, I've currently only got 2 gold-making things I'm doing on my account and neither of them have to do with the stuff covered in this video. Everything else, I've pretty much stopped doing because this channel takes up most of my free time I can allocate to Guild Wars 2.

That's fair enough. You really don't need to. It is a satisfying process though and you can always take it at your own pace. It's very much intended to be endgame.

Give yourself a bit of time with the game and then come back and look over some of it again. While there's no rule against starting on legendaries whenever you want, I'd recommend being a good bit into the game first.

Its not as crazy as it sounds. Don’t rush it. Take your time