Everybody who has this problem in UE 5.3 that the cloth isn't falling, do this: Let "Masks None, Target Max Distance" checked. Safe. Place your cloth in your scene. Select your Cloth Plane. In the searchbar of your details panel search for "distance". Increase the "Cloth Max Distance Scale" (100 or higher). Should work now, when you simulate. You're welcome ✌
Man, you're awesome! You've been the best Unreal Engine teacher so far. You explain everything so straightforward and clear, no beating around the bush. Thanks a lot from Brazil!
Can you make a video showing how to get it to interact with a character like the unreal mannequin? I can only get collision for the cloth to work in static meshes not other skeletal meshes like the mannequin
Thx as always Winbush :) For any reason, in 5.4 , my clothing section was initially docked and reduced left above the asset editor viewport panel. Just had to grab its title and drag it out on the left to match your viewport config (but drove me crazy for an hour). Hope it may help!
What do you mean by render everything out at 11:55? Like render out the video in movie render queue? Doesn't that also bake everything else to 2D as well? Is there any way to render just the cloth so it plays back live when you play the sequencer so you can iterate on the scene after you see where the cloth goes?
Hi! How can I make the fabric interact with the character? When the character and the cloth are separate objects in the scene, the cloth collision with the character does not work :(
You just need to drag your sequence asset (saved in the content) to the scene, then select it and in details panel check "auto play" then every time you hit play the sequence will play automatically
This is really cool to see in action! Thanks for sharing this content :) I could imagine one of these plane meshes being spawned in engine, then attached to a bone or other object within an actor. For say something like a cape on the back of some armor. Or perhaps, draped over a tent frame/scaffolding for a bazaar/marketplace scene. It all depends on how resource heavy it is. But, I'm sure all of the cloth settings can be dialed down, to split the difference as far as performance and quality are concerned. You've got a thumbs up, and a new subscriber from me. Keep it real, and have a great week/weekend!
Yea right now it's kind of heavy and limiting but I've seen on the roadmap there are improvements in 5.3 which I've yet to try out but I can only see it getting better!
@@JonathanWinbush - That's great to hear! I was just checking out the roadmap for 5.3 a couple weeks back. And, boy is there a lot of new things being updated and worked on. Epic Games truly has a LARGE staff of folks working on the engine itself along with all the features and feature improvement. Earlier this week, I noticed that "Preview 1" for version 5.3 is now available in the Library of the Epic Games Launcher. I've been tempted to install it to a secondary drive, just to play around with some things. But, I'll probably just wait until there is a stable release and transition over.
@@theindiegamedude yup preview 1 just officially came out yesterday I've been messing around with it. Like you said it's not stable of course but fun to see the new features being implemented. I'm most excited for the official VDB support!
Im still having trouble. In the clothing data in the mask area where the video said to turn off none I did but now the cloth isnt even moving, when it was on it did move but when I used the cloth on the level everything crashed anyone know whats up with that? Please help
@@JonathanWinbush I've tried to simulate cloth at the SK_ body mesh. But it doesnt collide with it. I dont know why, Ive tried manu options, like block all, character and other suff. But it doesnt affect. Do you know where might be the problem? Thanks in advance.
@@andreytrukhachev7417 I've noticed with complex shapes it doesn't seem to work at all you can only have so many collision points at least that I can see
Ima need a tutorial on how to deal with isolating clothing and allowing the blueprints or skeletal meshes to allow for collision with environments and the constant update.
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[FIXED] Untap Max Distance and increase ClothMaxDistanceScale in the Detail panel. At 5:40 unticking the box at Max Distance. The plane does not fall down? Also later when simulating it does nothing? What am I doing wrong.
i tried the exact same and it doesn't work well for me ......the cloth simulation collapses after few seconds of dropping down ...and even when i put a mesh beneath and checked collide with environment and force collision update ...it doesn't work it goes though the mesh ..... hope u can solve this issue or am i doing it wrong ...and thanks for the tutorial ...pls do more
I have a parachute asset and followed the tut.. It's getting hung up on its own bone? Like theres a capsule collision I think is related to the bone that was automatically generated on import I cant get rid of so it just hangs in the air on its own self??? Anybody have an idea of what I'm talking about please let me know a fix, thanks
This is the most difficult thing so far. I'm going to design a sail now, but to make the sail I designed swing with the wind, at least to do this, add those swinging cloths to the ready-made cloth simulation. If I design a sail again, when I throw it into the simulation, it creates a really useless object. How can I do this? How to do it, the ends are fixed, the rest swings as if it were blown by the wind
If you don't render it out but you render a cinematic video does the cloth perform in the rendered out video? Or, do you have to render it out? How do you render out the game simulated cloth for your cinematic videos?
@@JonathanWinbush 🙏🏼 i’m coming from cinema4d day and it’s been a little bit of a challenge with things. I followed all your videos for cinema 40 integration a lot of it was really great. I’ve run into a lot of issues and I’m trying to figure out the most solid workflow for like animation. Example I ever seen with a marvelous designer cloth and alien, and all he does is walk down an alley and take a pizza from a drone and it was all set up in Cinema 4D and it worked great but then we all know the problem is when you export skeletal animation into octane, so I did it the way that you suggested with FX bees but it doesn’t take the pizza from the drone cause it doesn’t retain the constraint information even if you break down that constrain into keyframes is actually a very simple complex project and it’s been way more of a struggle than I hoped it to be so I hope maybe in the future you could do more videos with seamless integration into unreal engine on more complex projects. I feel like a lot of people use unreal engine to show you a landscape or something really simple, but for some of us we want to take it to like actual movie, making all in unreal with elements of Cinema 4D
It's probably better do it as much as you can in Unreal to be honest instead of doing it in C4D then bringing it all over as they don't really migrate 1 to 1 a lot of time. Unreal has character animation tools as well or even using something like iClone in which I use comes over great.
@@JonathanWinbush I mean that’s the last thing that I had unfortunately learned I’m redoing all the animation in unreal, except for the movement of the character. I was actually able to get that in with the clothing only because I find both the cloth and the character together so it doesn’t have wind simulation on the cloth, but it looks good nonetheless, it wasn’t mandatory. So I guess I dope character animation tutorial would be sick. Only reason I recommended I know there’s other ones out there is because we trust you and usually probably 99% of the time if you follow along with your tutorial you’re not gonna have any problems versus other people aren’t as good.
@@no_damage Hey there, no need t re-animated everything. Plus, you're gonna break your neck, trying to do everything in Unreal. Unreal isn't designed for that. Yes, it has good rigs, but these are for runtime deformations on top. Not your ground-truth animation. Yes, some people abuse it for that. And it will eventually get to the point, but as it stands, no. don't even try to animate a movie entirely in unreal, that's unfeasible. I'm not sure what you mean with, "but then we all know the problem is when you export skeletal animation into octane, so I did it the way that you suggested with FX bees" What's the problem with Octane? - It's a renderer in c4d, yes. but what does it do to your animation? it shouldn't do anything, just render it :P What is "FX bees" ? So if I get you right, you have 2 characters, an environment, and a prop that transitions from one character to the other. (I'll leave out the cloth sim, as it doesn't interact with anything, it's just a separate object with its baked simulation.) That is very simple to do. First, you animate your character, the alien walking and the drone. The pizza(prop) is being animated using constraints, you told us. -> That is not an animation, but a specific feature of c4d. It won't translate to anywhere. First, it's attached to the drone. Then, at one frame, you toggle that constraint off, and enable a second constraint to the alien's hands. Now it will follow the alien's animation. Now, you either have to re-create the constraint, and binding/parenting of the pizza in unreal. OR, you simply bake this action down into keyframes aka an animation. So the pizza has it's own animation track with keyframes. the drone has its own animation with keyframes the alien has its own animation with keyframes The cloth is a seperate obj/abc sequence or cache. Which is just a separate object per frame. (Don't overcomplicate things here) Basically it's floating now, but will look correct in engine. If you place everything at the same place again. You might to look into more basics of animation in general and how/what data file-types like FBX carry over to other programs. Constraints and bindings aren't one of them. The general workflow for any animation, BCS every program has it's own "magic" tools to simplify the animation process, like constraints. The thing is tho, these are program specific, and only save you from keying everything by hand initially. You DO need key frames if you want to export the animation anywhere outside your animation program. That's what baking to key frames does. Then you are free to export any object + its animation track, anywhere, and it will play, well the animation, bcs you only now, you have actually specified (with keyframes) where the object should be at any given time. No keyframes no animation. If you use c4d especially, use the c4d plugin for unreal engine, it will bring all animations (bakes to keyframes) with all camera tracks, sequences everything into unreal with a single click. You basically directly import the c4d file, and unreal will read it. If you do any changes to the c4d file, you can simply hit "Re-import" and it will update unreal engine with all your changes. It also bring in most of the materials, but will obviously need addional setup for unreal, In the import you can specify which master material to use for each material, and override the texture paramteres with the textures that c4d uses in its material. So you specify, Roughness goes to Roughness, Albedo goes to Albedo. etc.
This is brilliant as always! About to get my head round this, if you had a Quixel table asset and then let your cloth collide so it falls over it. Would this work? And if you added wind would it still sit on the surface of the table with the draped areas blowing? Trying to work out its expected behavior!
You’ve made this do easy to follow! One last question. If I have a simple Megascan chair what would be the best way to add physics collision to stop the cloth falling through the chair? Thanks for any help!
@@jamesgoodman2931 I have to see if it works with 5.3 because it was beta in 5.2 and anything with a lot of polygons on it the collisions didn't really work
I either get a cloth piece that's freaking out and flailing in place or a cloth piece that's flat and collides against the shape like it was a regular piece of simple collision geometry.
Hi ! Did you try or manage cache the simulation ? Simple objects like planes or flags is able to cache , trought the chaos manager , but when I need cache cloth on animation, its goes horribly wrong, did someone try Cache a unreal cloth on character with animation track ? thanks for any advice
So this is kind of out of desperation but maybe someone will save me. Do you have a solution for scaling the simulation? At scale 1 yeah the simulation runs perfectly but at .001 the size, the simulation screws up. Is there any way to have the simulation calculate everything as if it was at the scale of 1 but be at the scale of .001? Maybe some kind of instancing I am missing perhaps?
Very new to cloth sim so I may sound dumb for asking, but is there a reason why when I scale up the skeletal actor for my cloth sim it breaks completely? is there a way to update the cloth sim with the new scale or do I have to build the static mesh to scale before the reimport process to skeletal mesh?
I'm not sure as the cloth simulation stuff is still kind of beta so I've been doing m cloth Sims in c4d and bringing them over. Dope name though skies was one of my favorite games way back in the day did you remake it??
Currently in the process XD about to release the first demo of it to the world but wanted a curtain like cloth to cover up WIP albatross airship and other WIP to do a curtain opening reveal but need to learn how to make a really big curtain lol XD @@JonathanWinbush
Great stuff man! Subscribed already. Although i've a question because when i click on "None" for the "Max Distance" to be unchecked, the skeletal mesh does not fall and remains still. In my case, physics are only working when that option is checked. Do you know why? Thanks!
Yea to be honest I started getting frustrated using the cloth because of it limitations at least for now so I've been doing any cloth sims in Cinema 4D then bring it over with the Cineware plugin
@@JonathanWinbush Thanks for replying man, I’ll keep working. Anyways I’m starting with UE, so feeling lost sometimes it’s part of the process. Even further with such a complex software. Have a great weekend!
@@birnenstreber9875 I have not fixed it. Maybe in further versions of UE they’ll change the cloth stuff. Now I’m trying Marvelous Designer and then importing the Alembic data.
I found out about the Take Recorder recently. If you want to play your physics in the sequencer you would have to use the take recorder to record your physics.. If i remember correctly, its sort of like baking an animation.. once you record the simulation, it will spit keyframes out and all you have to do is copy the key frames from the animation and paste it onto the cloth in your sequencer.. theres a few tutorials on here about it. very useful
I tagged along just fine, I think, but nothing happens when I hit simulate. The skeletal mesh just floats there. The first thing I noticed that went wrong for me was when I check off the 'Max distance' it doesn't fall. Stays put like nothing's changed. Any ideas anyone?
Hello, I'm using it on UE 5.3 and when "None - Max Distance" is turned off, the canvas stays still, doesn't fall, and has no physics. But when I use UE5.0 everything is normal. Can you help me with this problem? Thank you
This is the only thing that bugs me with UE5. You can use a static mesh component and add physics that way and keyframe it on/off but this doesn't work for cloth?? Well I cannot find a way to do this! Take recorder or chaos cache manager may work but its a lot of steps just to get something to play in sequencer! This is why I keep going back to Blender as this process is really easy! UE5 in certain areas is amazing and in others its way behind!! Hopefully this will get fixed soon!
@@JonathanWinbush something definitely changed in 5.3 because following step for step the plane doesn't respond at all... it just stays static. I got sad lol
5:33 in Ue 5.3 the cloth doesn't fall, I did exactly the same, cannot figure it out. I'm like driving crazy cause i did exactly the same as your video xD
@@gabridntdnt9071 which do you suggest? I'll trial through them all tomorrow when I have time if I have to, but if you KNOW I'd appreciate it. Please and thank you.
Here's what I did to get it working in 5.3 At 5:35 in the video, leave MAX DISTANCE checked. If you follow the video EXACTLY otherwise, it should work in 5.3 (PS - Also I found out that you can't DEFORM your mesh in UE at all for this to work. Just use a flat plane as specified in the video.) Another tip that might help which I've seen done in other videos - at 4:45, in the details panel for the CLOTHING tab, look for "Paint Value" and set it to 1000.00 before you begin painting your mesh.
