How to deal with China? EU divided over Belt and Road initiative 

somehow its true, thnks China

@@user-gz2pc2jk3t SPOT ON!

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@@vincentdubrosa87 everyone takes advantage of the weak and the poor. Should I remind you about the unfair deals that the West made with the East less than 200 years ago?

Hailun Yang up to what extend? The debt trap? I know how china strategy. It’s not a win win. It’s always a win for China.

Its a debt trap for sure in Africa China is telling the Africans to learn Chinese the same as the Muslims taking control of there culture, ask Asian countries close to China.

David Hynes why lie ? The Chinese are not telling Africans to learn Chinese. I live and work in Africa ,Nigeria to be exact and it simply does not happen .Those that are learning Chinese is because they want to . Why is your culture so weak you think Muslims can change it ? Other Asian cultures outside China are just fine unlike what you think they are confident, robust and their traditions strong ,after all they survived Western colonial occupation when they were enslaved ,belittled and humiliated. As for debt traps : Don’t borrow money you can’t payback then there is no trap simple ! LOL

I agree with you. The west has been poisoned by the left for too long. The Chinese communist party government is evil. But you can not excuse your own stupidity and corruption in the government by blaming the devil for laying the so called trap. The Europeans need to see through the tricks of the Chinese communist government and force their hand and get fair and favorable deals even if they do not have the power to change the regime in China.

homan2329 Even borrowing from ECA can put the country under an austerity program of spending.

@@davidhynes China forgave $60 billion in African loans... AFricans aren't stupid like you think. They know they get a better deal working with China.

no problem we like chinese japonese et many others investent in Europ :))

meanwhile UK, France and Germany are the biggest trade partners with China in EU. They don't want Italy to get deals and just be a vassal state paying taxes to EU. What does EU and USA offer? nothing they can't. America can't even build a wall or help cities like Detroit and Flint Michigan. EU is panicking over brexit.

They receivesbillions fromage EU as pour membres because if Salvini Italy is fallinge Into recession

The EU leader countries were very arrogance! They depise their own members! This is a fact cannot denial!

And what's wrong with that?

Rolland Ibrahim The French were very arrogances!

France is actually in some turmoil so the trust toward others is already low see that amount of French euro-septic people and some historical French companies are already sold to the Chinese (some wine production company and an airport) that's why they are somehow not so eager to make a deal.

well said!

well-educated man.

Working with America is harder! America will tell you what to do, if your government doesn't listen to America, Guess what? America will impose sanction and tear down your government or even bomb your country. Just look at Venezuela, Syria, Iraq and Libia....

It`s certainly better than tariff wars, and why not. Chinese are nice people.

My people are burning. Save us don't make any deal with china. Free Tibet.

Well they have a lot of people to move around, and the C919 hasn't entered service yet.

Hopefully one day

@Ozkan Onalan That's the reason that the most public in China can enjoy the peaceful environment. (Although what you saw and heard may be not the truth)

Lesley Kramer 凸 u mxxxxr

Chinese will always say LAOWAI to all different people who don't have black hair. Just look at China, not even 1 different looking person in your FOOTBALL team. Once China is culturally evolved let's talk again. China is only in for their own benefit. I don't trust any Chinese. Europeans can also do it for their own benifit, but for Chinese it is all about money. Europe should be ruthless with you

@@lesleykramer7207 How did they let you graduate pre-school?

Deb L France is sending a message to other partners how it should be done when your a member in a club you listen to your manager players don’t decides on there own

@@reparateurtelephone7717 How should be done? That the big boy just decides what's better for them and the other 26 should just bend?

@@reparateurtelephone7717 Right...just like France decided unilaterally to attack Lybia causing the mess we are in today...stfu please...

Deb L ...Italy sees welcoming green light at the end of China,whereas the others see blinking red!

@@adamrigoni4399 Airbus can stop selling to China if France is afraid of technology transfer? Or stop selling anything to China. Just because some countries decide to do business with China, she is trying to divide Europe? It is not like she offers to one and not the other. Some decides not to accept. Just like when someone orders you to do something but you refused, is that order deem divisive?

Fully agreed with your comments

I'm no fan of Trump but I think he may actually be right when it comes to trade with China. Trade should be fare! Trade wars and tariffs hurt everyone as we learned from our experiences with Smoot Hawley, but things can't continue the way they are. As China becomes a larger economic and military power it needs to set and enforce fair trade rules. The effort the US is making appears suicidal, but it has to be done. Now is the time, because if you wait to long you will loose all leverage and essentially be relegated to indentured servitude to a new economic super power for the next 1,000 years. One that doesn't care for any ethnic group that isn't Han Chinese. One that takes a long term view and has the patience to wait decades if not centuries to collect what they consider their fair payment. The world has experienced life with the US as the sole super power and many are unhappy, but it only takes a casual glimpse at what is happening in the South China sea and with the projects in Africa, to see what lays in the future for those who deal with China naively. I believe that due to the economic difficulties facing Italy (for whatever reason) it has put it self in position to become the weak link in the EU, that China can use to pry open and extirpate the Union. The US has many problems and will undoubtedly face a financial and political crisis unlike any seen in history, but I would argue that this fate in no way benefits any European member state. It in fact may usher in the end of western civilization and values. Not that there's anything wrong with eastern values, it's just that in the end the marriage of strong Chinese nationalism, authoritarianism, communism and an overall desire to avenge centuries of humiliation will spell the end of the standard of living most Americans and Europeans have become accustomed to.

@omkar joshi I agree, and it's not because I have anything against the Chinese. I have great respect for their people and their culture, but the world has really got to wake up. I just think our politicians are too greedy and don't want to risk loosing access to the Chinese markets. It appears in fact that they will be back stabbing each other, and walking away from strategic, economic, and military alliances just to gain access. China has one goal in mind, the same goal all emerging powers in world history have had. To dominate economically, militarily and culturally. To rewrite history and to restore the power and prestige of the Han Chinese. How that dominance affects how the rest of the world values capitalism, freedom, and human rights is yet to be determined.

Hey dog eater do you really think India is poor ? Check you facts

The president Bush, Clinton, Husseine are criminals. don't blame the entire country, China is stolen BILLIONS of dollars from America, ohhhh they do not like that Trump stop them.

Number of items is meaningless, success, value, and acceptance of items in other countries is what matters. No country wants a million Chinese technologic items spying on it.

How did Huawei get their patents? China has stolen trillions upon trillions of dollars of IP and tech secrets from all companies around the world not just American, everyone knows Huawei has stolen many many trade secrets over a number of years

EU nations can do business with West and East. It's US who wanted to limit EU nations who they can business with - while US itself wanted all the trade deals with China.

Why is everyone so angry at the US? Because of one stupid president? We've fought wars together and established military and economic ties for mutual protection. Americans love Europe, European products, culture and people. Do you really believe that China has the best interest of Europe in mind with it's belt and road project? Do you have a treaty with China stating that it will never use it's growing military in Europe to secure its interests or collect it's debts? If the EU as a group decides to trade with China fine, but don't you see what China is doing? Are you blind? China is targeting a country with a slow economy, that feels left out of the EU decision making process, and using it to pry open cracks in the union. Very smart on China's part. Of course the market is bigger in the east, but don't you want China to drop its constant request to form unwanted partnerships, or demand technology transfers? Don't you want to fix this particular problem first before you become too dependent on the trade? China is an authoritarian government that is now showing signs of aggression and belligerence towards its neighbors, does that concern you at all? As Europe removes itself from the "dominating" US, I would consider carefully which power you now give the reigns to. Be careful what you ask for...You may get it.

Apophis XO then why is us sending tarrif to eu now? explain ? because of friendship?

@@nagi-springfield93 Who knows? Trump wants to fix all of the perceived imbalances in trade he thinks are caused by unfair practices. He may be crazy, I'm not sure, but now is not the time to question the US commitment to its allies.

@@apophisxo4480 lol based on how ur reply i think there is not much else to argue. Gl trading with US

Fair and wisely said.

Win-win should be in every dealing, even when one borrows.

You speak as if China is some benevolent, ultra cooperative nation trying to usher in a new golden age of peace and prosperity for the world. Do you know Chinas history at all??? It is just a full of blood and conquest as an on Earth, especially among its own people. This is the nation that pretty much closed itself off from the world and still hasn't really opened up. A nation that rose primarily through technology theft and exploiting is own people for basically slave labor under horrible conditions. Why do you think its so cheap to produce in China??? This is all part of China trying to wage an PR campaign. Because it's at odds with America. Chinese care about Chinese first and they will be happy to tell you so. Don't be so naive.

Haha one day we will be watching this in full 8k HD virtual reality over Huawei networks. How ironic.

(⊙o⊙)厉害啊👍诗人

Screw off, troll. China isn't lifting up any country except for themselves. You know it.

@@1flash3571 You go to Pakistan and ask them whether China is lifting them.

Well said Mr.

Just like the starts the moon the wind and the sun, there are problems, sun flares, eclipses, starts that have gone but you can still see the light is an illusion, and the wind that can turn to a tornado, I feel happy is China prosper, for the Chinese people, but Xi, is a criminal, he kills people if they say something he doesn't like, Xi wants to dominate the WORLD, do you want to be communist? do you want social scores, that allowed you to buy, travel, study or do some of the things you are allowed, you have no freedom, you want that?

If you wanna pursue that course you are absolutely welcome to do so even tho trade would drop for a while. They wont fight, they will cooperate and grow together. I am sad to see America going for isolationism as I don't think it will help at all. As for nukes, if you pull out of everything everywhere than you cease to be relevant geopoliticaly, not that anyone even taught of attacking you anyway. If the US actually closes than at least you can halve your military budget and invest it domestically.

Salvini doesn't agree, and he seems the only full patriot in Italian politics. Don't let the mania for blaming the US for all earth's ills render you naive about other nations.

@Nishmian Butt hahahha

BE KIND AND EXPLAIN,..WITH FACTS

With 5G you will loose freedom with face recognition, social scores, and you safety will no longer exist. Just ask the Muslims in Chinese camps, or the millions of Chinese that work with no pay. Communism is a SOB.

Serena Chen respect in form of fear, we already have.

Europeans were extremely Arrogance, they see themselves very special even they were woes!

@megakids - UK (and France) make it past $2.5T in GDP. (You shouldn't be dwarfed by California and be a G7.) Unlike the others, China isn't fully developed, and it's certainly not democratic. I agree, though, that most groupings are useless, unproductive.

@megakids Perhaps democracy did advance the progressive development of society at the beginning of democracy, but the political performance of the so-called democratic countries in the last 10 to 20 years has been disappointing, inefficient, long-running and noisy, and the almost total negation four years later has pushed back again. There is even dictatorship under the coat of democracy.

@megakids Best comment ever. I am so tired of hearing people saying if we elect an idiot we can vote him out in 4 years. 4 years is a lot of time and it's proved too often that our elected leaders care winning elections more than anything else.

It is. Unless your growth is higher than 2% then you will be losing money paying that interest rate. And 2% growth in this day and age is very hard to achieve.

I supposed US gives away free loans. The American dream is built by debt trap.

Look at what China did to srilanka

@@reparateurtelephone7717 it's just a port. Do you know US has more than 800 overseas US military bases? How do you think US got them??

@@reparateurtelephone7717 Did the port kill anyone?

@Dark of the knight What do you mean "invade" Tibet? Truly you're brainwashed by the media. If you look up Tibet yourself, its fine. Way of life never changed, if Tibet didn't go back to China then I'll bet you 100% India would've taken it. Sometimes you have to check it yourself. For me, I'm only very much against the concentration camp of the Uyghurs.

Lets see, culture and friendship like they bring to Tibet ?

If you are in US, it's hard to get the latest model.

Or you can just buy a Samsung since that’s the company Huawei is always hacking for their r&d

Ignore the US, they are morons who think guns have nothing to do with gun violence. It's long pas time that the world left them behind. They are headed for a dark age and we want none of that.

50 billions contract is very welcome hope many other will come soon ! EU is united with Brexit !

Eu can´t ever be single minded entity. EU i s alliance of 28 (still unless brexit) independent countries. Different countries and people with different cultures, needs and hopes. That is I like EU :) And only 4 base values. If u do not like them. U can go out.

that's very impressive though...

Xi is most aggressive hawk ever. Uses Covid, of Chinese origin, to cover threat to invade India and Taiwan.

THEY ARE SOLD OUT AND/OR BLACKMAILED BY SICKO PARTY. BUT YOU GO ON AND KEEP ON FAN-GIRLING FOR WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

@Saberfang 89 Yep, humor is a sign of reasonability and sanity

@dato tak seri no one care modis 心情

You forget about who enslaved and looted you for 200 years ha? Was it China?

oh but reconnects again later loll

omg perfect solution for brexit....

London runs finance.

and replace with China hegemony politics .

SFAC永恒思维意识 ! "People around the world should think about one thing, how to get rid of Chinese hegemonistic politics." Though incipient, its vice-like grip has already taken hold of the world. Chinese have trillions & trillions of US $ with which to bait small countries (even India that they think is "small' is enticed). The world will not be a safe place if this Chinese menace is ended.

错字受！

and he's gorgeous too lol :P

BRI is for huge infrastructure projects investment not for building toilets. India most needed toilet projects could only be financed internally, otherwise just carry on with open defecation. Btw, open defecation is not just a nonsense but more an uncivilised behaviour of human beings with low upbringing. There are too many nonsense in India.

Yes, India should boycott BRI and focus on building toilets. And also protect girls from rape and abuses.

@@loveinthelandfill1124 Yes we are building toilets. And infrastructure to. We will build every facility to make India a developed nation. But we can't be another east India company which is China is going to be by occupying there territory with the name of BRI. Example is Shree Lanka's Humbontota port.

@@shreeramcoachingclasses4209 lol I don't think it's in China's interest to debt trap India. India is far bigger and more powerful (not a superpower yet) than any of the small countries in the indian sub-continent. And by the way BRI is not a "nonsense" project.

Yes, India is out. Not welcome to join the BRI ..😁👍