Solid play by Xuan. And what’s remarkable is that the only play she actually seems conflicted over is the River bet, where her intuition that Chin liked the river clashes with her GTO understanding that she needs to fire.
@@TheTree1this is not a snap call. It's a very easy spot for her to underbluff and she's never value betting worse. For his call to be +EV, she'd have to be over bluffing which is really hard to do here, so it's a good fold.
This is a great breakdown and amazing idea to have them verbalize what they are thinking while playing live. It’s great that people do this while playing online but when ur at table it changes an aspect. Like I think if he was just running this hand thru the solver then he woulda got to the low pocket pairs (he also woulda known he hand the whole time) and made the hand out to some hero call scenario. Whereas on the felt, even tho it’s not real life it still holds weight and shows u may forget things or leave things out. Whether intentional or not. Nobody’s perfect and when u hit the felt and real moneys on the line snd the chips are physically in front of u it’s a different game
Thanks for the great content! She actually gave me a new perspective by talking about the "energy" he checked the river with. I'll consider that in my games from now on.
I would guess folding JT relies on the LJ never betting AK and AQ on the river. I think in practice villians will sometimes bet these hands and JT becomes a close call
I feel like its important to remember the high stakes v low stakes distinction, in some low stakes lines you're allowed to get away with having no bluffs bc villains aren't playing correctly against it. basically playing more expolitative than gto the lower stakes you go
yeah I know in micros this would basically never work. You’re getting called with all Ax+. But that just means in turn you need to go for much thinner value
Hi, first time watching this type of analysis and I love how the players's thought process is verbalized by themselves realtime in hand and the post edit comparison with Solver solutions. However, one question I have here: The players facial expression and lip movements is very visible on the table, how does this factor into their thought process? Do they make a conscious effort not to look at their villian's face when the hand is in progress? (Chin's turn facial expression shows he is clearly uncomfortable with Xuan's bet OTT)
Wow. I did not expect JT to be a fold. That being said, J7s does call - so at my level I still think I wouldn't ever decide to call J7 and fold JT, I would be too scared of being valuebluffed.
Is there anyone can explain why Ako is not even a possibility hand here per solver? Did i miss read the solver? I learned something about piker today to not bet AKo here, thanks
At 18:35 you add a note for K9s, Q9s, K8s stating that they are unlikely bluffs irl, could you shed some more light on why this is the case? Is it because these combos are hard for humans to take this line with? Thanks
yes I also didnt understand this read since I myself find it easier bluffing those hands (blocking nuts or potential bluff catchers blocking nuts) than PPs (complete non natural). And I'd consider that if it's easier for me, it probably is for other players
Because a K9/Q9s block villain's straight draws and flush draws which are the very bluffing hands that would fold to a river bet. If you're bluffing with K9/Q9/K8 you have to ask yourself... "okay what else does villain have that misses if we're blocking a king/queen and 9 which are all straight draws and flush draws
One thing I don;t understand: "giving as much of villains range a difficult decision" -> I take as the decision is mixed or close in EV, but that seems to me that V can not make big mistakes then as they are so close in EV. What am I missing?
Rock paper scissors have three choices that have the same EV. In any one round you are welcome to pick anything, but if you always pick rock... You are correct that when we have a mixed choice the ev is the same so go ahead and fold 33 from UTG if you are changing music, taking a drink or something. Also, at lower limits population will have leaks like not 3/4 betting enough, if that's the case then one choice will have more ev then another. One more way to think about it, if you look at what we should do with our range in a spot you will find a break down like this: raise 13% call 60% fold 23% in this random example around half of the hands had a partial raise, but if we do this 100% then our range as a whole will be way to weak when we call and when we raise. I'm speaking generally not specifically to this example as i haven't watched it yet.
Out of the SB Chin is going to be 3 betting AA, AK, AQ, AJ, AT, JJ at something close to 100% preflop. On top of it being extremely unlikely that he has these hands any Ax hand without the Ad or a pair are folding to the flop bet. Whereas Xuan has all of those AA, AK, AQ,..! hands as well as a bunch of other Ax that are likely to c-bet. So when it gets to the turn he has very few aces in his range, especially not the strongest aces, she has practically all the aces, and especially the strongest aces.
@@ennn3047 As far as the aces go it would just remove more aces from him and none from her. As far as the flushes go, he has significantly more XdXd going into the flop. There's just way more hands like Qd8d-Qd2d he'll defend, but are too trashy for her to open. He's probably not leading any of his flush draws. There's some amount he's check raising, but I don't know him well enough to know what he's doing that with besides KdXd.
I dislike the word 'blocker' for this reason - having a diamond doesn't *block* your opponent from having a flush on a diamond board, it makes it marginally less likely and shifts the equilibrium. Which diamonds you block, the preflop action, and the board texture all dictate how impactful those blockers actually are.
Extremely well played by Xuan, and also, not correct analyzed on everything, but good decisions by Christian. I've imagined the perfect girlfriend, thin aggro asian girl with really good understanding of the game.. And there she is. Xuan !
Will you do a class at some point? You put out the best information, but over a long time and not collectet in a systematic way for learning. If you.would offer a class, i.would pay
Not sure if you’ve ever come across the German version of POL, but it was created a few years before S4Y, and the hand analysis, even back then is far superior to what you see here. It really highlights the gaps between US and European players. Most of what Xuan and Christian say in this video is mostly unimportant and far away from what some very strong online players focus on.
You’ll notice that Xuan’s river discussion is full of useless projection. She doesn’t mention a single item of importance and focuses on whether she can credibility represent a hand, which is a trait of very weak players, and demonstrates a lack of understanding of her strategy while trying to guess her opponent’s strategy.
The solver was not betting JT for value in the LJ's shoes so JT has basically equivalent equity as Ax, which he should have plenty of, not to mention other two pair combos as well. So among that group, JT was not a good calling candidate because it was blocking a number of bluffs and not blocking as much value.
@@Gos1234567exactly flushes and straights complete 1/3rd of the time if you combine them you are losing 36%+32% of the time. Sets flop 11% of the time so 80% of the time you are losing in this spot when villians leads 3 streets. But two pair is also a bluff catcher vs Ax and low pairs etc so 20% of the time hes gotta call off in order to not be exploited by her weak part of her range/pure bluffs.
I find this series so annoying. They just try and justify doing the most retarded plays by using a bunch of poker terms that they don’t really understand.
@@bookedroomer gotta admit I agree. Although I do think xuan is slightly more tilted to bluffs more than chin considers (generally players are more than solvers are so just because all the plays were ‘solver approved’ doesn’t mean to me that that was a good long-term fold). I think in practice if you’re gonna call the turn with a neutral EV hand like chin’s you shouldn’t really fold most rivers, seeing as you’re effectively bluff catching already on the turn
I'm going to stick with my strategy. (Raises eyes, sees woman) [Raise, reraise and move all in on all streets as required never folding] (Blame luck if lost) Edit: Holy shit just saw video, I couldnt have snapped fast enough and said you have AK with busted diamond also don't fold face up against professionals you noob
I didn't know that this 'poker out loud' concept existed. I like the the idea, however I find having to listen to the other players sniffle, cough, sigh, open cans etc. is really annoying.