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That was a great video. I've seen so many videos of people hating on the 660's, but I think you can use it with the proper diffusion under certain circumstances that would help. Great video!
Thank you. I was having trouble attaching the round Softbox to my Neewer 660. I was under the impression that I needed to take off the barn door, but the Softbox wouldn't stay in position. Watching you put your Softbox over the barn doors really helped me. Also, I will take off the diffusion panel.
Hey hey CMQ Japan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video helped out! Yea the circular one definitely needs the barndoors on. Kind of weird that the circular ones didn't a easier way to do it without the barndoors. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Copy Imitation! Thanks as always for the kind words! Always happy to try and find ways to help the community with their filmmaking needs or curiosities!
Hey hey Jolien! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will do my best to make some more fun content about the 660 panel! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Hey hey Ben! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'd say its essentially about the same, though at the end of the day the 5-1 reflector will produce a more versatile result with its much larger surface area. I wish the umbrella was able to set slightly further away from the LED Panel. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Jimmy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I purchased nine (yes, 9!) of these lights as a newbie setting up a RU-vid studio with different sets. I ceiling mounted 6 lights using scissor clips on the drop ceiling rail of a rented office. I struggled for weeks trying to properly light my back wall scenes and subject with different angles, settings, near/far positions, and adjustments. This video taught me a lot about light diffusion methods. I’m now seeking a video on how to best create “groups” of lights in the latest Neewer app version. That is, 2 lights (Group 1) run on the same settings while 2 other lights (Group 2) run on different settings/channels, without having to manually set each light.
Hey hey again Shaheed! Haha I actually was contemplating that title back in the day, but didn't think people would understand TLDW as the acronym. I sincerely appreciate it! Catch you in the next one!
The 5 in one definitely looks the best in comparison, but dang, that lil umbrella ☂ is mighty!!! Especially for the price discrepancy. Thanks so much for this visual. That was so helpful to see everything side by side
Hey hey WhyTom! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I sincerely appreciate that! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Wow, thanks for this. I really appreciate your excellent, clear presentation. I am stills guy starting to learn video. This was really helpful. I’ll be checking out more of your videos.
Hey hey Paul! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was helpful! Coming from stills you got a lot of foundation to start from. I do have a pure beginners youtuber video where I talk through camera settings that we use. Hope this video helps further! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__dsOEMzrVA.html Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
After having pondered this decision and going back and forth I think I finally decided: The round softbox is what I am going to go with, even though it is more expensive, simply because it allows the softbox to be fixed to the light without having to take off the barn doors. In situations where we have to pack and unpack often, this is the best way for me.
Hey hey again DesertCookie! Actually with the Circle Version (assuming they haven't changed the design) You will need to keep the barn doors on for it to affix to the panel.
Hey hey Jason! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm not sure how bright the Elgato Key light can get. If it's very bright you can definitely use an umbrella or reflector to soften the light further. I wouldn't use a softbox that is small and similar in size. You want the 2nd diffusion layer to be larger. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
This is a great comparison, I just wish you compared light spill as well. I'm guessing the umbrella spills more than the softboxes but it's not easy to assess on such a neutral background. Apart from this, great video!
I love the video! Thank you so much! Just a little feedback I thuink would be better if you just use a simple cut because thie flip transition take our attention from the video. Thank you bro!
Hey hey again Rafael! You're most welcome! For me currently I do simple cuts if I'm staying on topic visually and dialogue wise. I then use flip cuts to make peoples eyes startle and know something happened because Im about to change topics or to new topic visuals that I want someone to pay attention to. Its a type of psychological transition I use depending on when I want someone to for sure pay attention haha. Hope that makes sense!
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Hey hey Yuen! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video came right on time! Hope this helped with your diffusion needs! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thank you so much for all of this info! Taping parchment paper to my light is a little too unprofessional looking so I started doing more research and here I am. I was so torn between the circular and square softbox diffuser covers and then saw the circular wasn't available right now, but that makes me feel better now that you say the results are so similar anyway! Just ordered the square one, so excited to try it out!
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Thanks sooo so much for this video! I own exactly the same lights and recently bought the square softbox and I never thought of using an umbrella or the 5 in 1 reflector (and I already own these as well). Great video as always. And yes please, do a Neewer 660 playlist. You rock 🤘
Hey hey João! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome, so glad this video was valuable! Awesome, I will start thinking of some 660 ideas to further develop this series! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks man, you rock! I've been watching your videos for over a year now. It's funny because we both own the GH5 and the Rode Videomic NTG and I've always found your reviews pretty good and straight to the point. I can always relate to your videos. Keep it up!
Hey hey Scott! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video is helpful and that it could be beneficial for your students! Are there any other types of tutorial videos that I could create to further help the class? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker You're welcome. As to suggestions for videos: - Simple interview lighting - Low cost lighting for narrative scenarios like a conversation or streets at night - A your first light kit video for students or recent grads
Hey hey The Inward Voyage - DBSvibes! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you were able to find this video and that it was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I have these lights in storage because I chicken out once I had my youtube equipment ready. Finally felt brave enough to start and was now wondering how to diffuse these instead of spending more $$ on new equipment. Thanks for this video.
Hey hey Jack! I honestly do not know that off the top of my head in terms of stops as I did not measure those. If I had to guess at it, I'd say you're losing on average around 1 to 1-1/3 stop.
It really depends on your setup. If you're trying to overtake the natural light coming into a room, might not be enough. If you control the natural light coming in, these are powerful enough for most medium to close up shots.
Exactly what I needed, I ended up buying a simple clamp with a cable that I connect to the light stand to hold the 5in1 diffuser, thank you for the ideas!
Super useful. Thanks! (Possibly worth mentioning: the umbrella gives the softest, cheapest results, but this setup also leaks light - unlike the softboxes. And with the softboxes, you have the option of adding the grid.)
Hey hey Andy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed this video! And you make a good point about light leaks and softbox grids. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hi TLDR. Thank you for your video very informative. I bought the 660 Led lights and now I want to go for the umbrellas and adaptors. As for the adaptors your link shows a product in the first page and then it shows another on the amazon website. As for the second product is not available unfortunately. As for the second, it is available, so I would go for that one. Can you confirm me that it is the right adaptor? I can see the following description TARION H-Shape 2-Part Swivel Tilt Metal Umbrella Softbox Holder Flash Bracket Adapter 180° Adjustable for 1/4" 3/8" Lamp Light Stand Mount Tripod, TARION-Shoeholder3_DE. If yes I would thank you and also suggest you to update the link. Thank you very much.
Hey hey Matteo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Yes the Tarion is the correct one, honestly its probably the same one I have just a different 3rd party label slapping their name on it. My links auto generate and as of right now its pointing at product thats essentially the same as mine. Just look for that little umbrella hold in the middle for you to stick the umbrella rod through. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Good video: the Neweer boxes and especially with the grid they have was an option will keep the background dark when that is desired and many RU-vid creators do choose that look of dark background.
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Hey hey Liza! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! SMD version does not have the focusing lens on the LED itself, which in turn creates a more "flood" light while losing some overall light intensity. Which one is better? Both are good for different applications, but if I had a choice, I generally like SMD more because I'd rather have a even flood beam over spot beam that has a bright spot in the middle of the beam. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
There are no specific umbrellas with grids that I'm aware of. However you can purchase large grid curtains to control spill that way. It's not ideal rig out one more thing, but it is an option.
Hey hey Emmanuel! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! lol never watched Lazy Town, but lord I don't look like Stingy hahaha Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Excellent examples, if possible can you share some photographs lighting position for bi-color 660 led. One more to keep umbrella so we need to purchase a different light stand? Do you have any link ?
Hey hey Sabai! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The lighting positions are the same as my basic youtube setup that I detail here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__dsOEMzrVA.html As for the umbrella, you do not need a different light stand, you only need the adaptor that I talk about and have linked in the description. These adaptors attach to all standard cheap or expensive lightstands. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Awesome, just bought 660 as my parabolic was too big for setting up in my room all the time. But it always goes full circle, you can't shortcut good lighting without space and setup.
Hey hey Marlon! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Ain't that the truth, the setups I could do with this channel if I had a larger studio space with a nice solid 20ft ceilings haha! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Nice video! Can I get a speedlight/umbrella adapter and then remove the hotshoe part (I guess they screw off) to reveal a screw that I can put the light stand adapter, then finally the 660 on that?
Hey hey shmikey100! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That is a good question, I've never used a speedlight adaptor before but if you unscreen and it reveals a 1/4-20 port or a 5/8th, then yes it should work if you just buy the baby pin light stand adaptor. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
So for just shooting videos for for Instagram, what would you recommend. I have a pretty small space that I am trying to light, so want to figure out what is the best light? Your content is great and I appreciate so much information!
Hey hey James! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If you are doing "talking head" shots for instagram, these Neewer 660 LED panels are more than enough. If you are trying to light up your entire body for instagram with the camera further back, you'll want to look more into more powerful COB LED's around the 60-100watt range. From there you can determine if you want to diffuse them or not depending on what look you're going for. While the Neewer 660 can technically light you from further away, its going to look very deer in the headlights. Thought you do mention its in a small space, so I'm assuming you are just lighting up your face mainly and maybe half of you're torso. To which, yes, the neewer 660 diffused is more than enough for your needs. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey jealousofmypuddin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Definitely an option most people won't think to try. Admittingly I never thought of this when I first looked into lighting solutions in general. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Just got the umbrellas but pondering the lights. RGB.. who is it to white balance with a bicolor light? How much power does it give out. Which gives out the most brightness?
Hey hey again L'ORAGE! General rule, bi-color panels will usually be more powerful because you have more LED diodes per color. When you split those with extra RGB diodes, you're losing brightness. 2nd general rule, if the LEDs have "lenses" in front of it, it will artificially have more power by focusing the light. But of course this means that lighting up a diffus material will be a smaller area than a larger area (for softer light). For future reference, every light I have every tests I have all the results on TLDRfilmmaker.com so people can compare output between panels.
Hey hey Sean! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thank you for this video and for all the knowledge that you are sharing! And also - for the professional manner that you present your content. I'll definitely look at your other videos and recommend you to the audience in Bulgaria. Have a great one!
Hey hey Stikx! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Aw man, I wish I would have though to make this video earlier. Glad I did and that you found it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey agan Amby! The SMD will help better fill out a diffusion layer, but when you are dealing with a panel this small and using it through diffusion, the difference between the two is not large and your final use case won't be affected by it. Both types of panels are SMD's LED diodes, one simply has a lens in front of it and the other one doesn't.
This was a perfect comparison! I bought the Neewer NL660 set about 10 months ago. Unfortunately I got the version without any display on the back of the LED making it impossible to know which K values I am using the LEDs at. I am using this set for my RU-vid channel, where I do drumcovers in a super tight space, which is where those LEDs really seem to shine due to the limited space (thank god for Manfrotto's autopoles!) . In my studio I am using the circular and the square softbox and when I use the LEDs in my living room, I tend to grad my cheap umbrella (lots of spill though...) or my 5in1 reflector. Atm I am saving up for the Godox VL150 for my talking head videos. I will definately keep my 660s though, since they are super flexible (with color gels, as a hair light, lighting the wall, etc.). Btw the cheapest option imo is baking paper (color shift can happen), a plain white shirt or a piece of bed lining.
Hey hey El Boyo Electronico! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome! Glad the 660 panels are working out for you with the various diffusion options! Yup yup, I used wax paper for awhile as well! Solid cheap diffusion tricks! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Eduwardo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I have a full beginners tutorial where I talk about what basic lighting I do: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__dsOEMzrVA.html You can skip to the lighting part. Essentially it is just basic 3-point lighting that you can find on youtube. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey BurningtunaDC! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video! Hmm I'm not sure, I don't always say "price point" unless I am referring to price after I've mentioned "budget". Otherwise I will just say "Price" if I am talking about it in general. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
hi there. Sorry if my question is a bit off topic. Did you ever own some Aputure Amaran AL-528W LED panels? I wonder how much "better" would these Neewer 660 be...stronger light? better light? Just wondering. Thanks for the video...
Hey hey Erick! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I didn't have specifically the 528, I was given an HR672c for review. I did a massive comparison here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qPxGAUHxWbQ.html Based on the LUX reading of the 528W model, the Neewer 660 looks to be brighter, mainly because of the spot beam, but even so the fall off is still decently bright. For reference, based on the numbers and some math. the Neewer reads 805lux from 2ft away, the 528W would be approx 320lux from the same distance. Hope this helps.
@@TLDR_filmmaker hi there...how do you find the time to respond so many questions?! Thanks...I actually decided to get a Neewer NL 660 and I tested it against my old AL-528W.. since the 528 is daylight only it was brighter than the 660 of course at 100 power in DAYLIGHT colour temperature. I used my Canon 90D and a Sigma 18-35mm lens to test the lights and with the 528 on only it made my living room brighter than with the 660 in Daylight setting. The spot beam of the 660 might help a bit in some instances. The 528 throws light all over! which for weddings etc may be ok. But since I use the 528 indoors mostly, I always use a 1/2 CTO filter to convert the AL-528W from daylight to almost tungsten (don't like going all the way to 3200K), This makes the light about 4200K which is a good compromise I think and it doesnt cut the light too much. Then with the filter on I compared the output of the 528 against the 660 in tungsten and the 528 was a bit stronger hhh, but next time I will try setting the Neewer 660 to about 4500K which will have all LEDs on and roughly in the middle which perhaps will give me more output out of the 660?! I can't say if the quality CRI of the 660 is better than the AL528W. I hope so. Those aputures are older models. Dunno...honestly, the Neewer 660 is an ok light. Any videographer with 2 or 3 of those NL-660 lights could make a small set look good-but of course bargain lights are not meant for serious abuse but I like it-the remote will come in handy- and I think it will be useful. Only cost me $120 Cdn deliverd to my door so it's a bargain- I think that if I really need a stronger light I will look at the Godox ML60Bi- I like how portable it can be. That one could definitely light a podium for speeches etc- But for now I will "survive" with the Neewer 660 and 2 aputure AL528W...I'm not a pro yet. Thanks for your videos. Really hard work!
Any recommendations for shooting product reviews? Thoughts? I don't have very much lighting options now, bc I usually shoot outside. However, I want to film more inside now.. will be ok? should I go with Umbrella or Soft Box? Please help.. thanks!
Hey hey TheTrailDancer! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Yes, these LED's are strong enough to do product shots indoors. The Umbrella would technically be the most versatile setup. You can have the umbrella further or closer to the panel to get various levels of diffusion on the product. Of course this is all assuming the product can fit onto a standard coffee table and nothing something super huge. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Joel! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, I have my Rode Videomic NTG boomed near the front of my head and have it just out of frame pointing at my chin. If your mic is further away sitting on your camera it is going to capture a "thinner" voice because it is further away from your mouth and capturing the ambience of the room as you speak. When its as close to you as possible it only captures your voice and not much of the room around you. The boom stand I am using is this one: geni.us/ABBtsYp (affiliate link) I also have a ball head on it so that it's easier to articulate where I want the mic to be pointing. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Warrior Functional! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Aputure is easily the strongest followed closely by Godox who are transitioning to having a more fully cohesive family of LEDs at a slight discounted price with a missing feature or two. If you're looking for pure budget LEDs without the bells and whistles, Neewer is sorta there but not really rebranding high power LEDs. For those you will be looking at one off third party brands that appear and potentially just disappear in the market. At the end of the day, Aputure is currently the brand I have the most faith in even though its not a pure budget brand. They track record and company innovation ideas are on par with what creators want and need. Godox is almost there but they were first and foremost a Photography company first, so a lot of their early decisions were for photographers. However in the last 3 years they have slowly blurred the lines together and as or recent are starting to try and distinguish differences between what is better for video and what is better for photography. Aputure is purely with videographers in mind, so a lot of their decisions are for them. Of course it can be used for photos too, but its not their primary market. Hope this makes sense! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again adamski! Glad you got to check out this follow up! Definitely so much learn when it comes to lighting, it's a lot of fun as you start to play with it!
Hey hey Will! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If I had to guess you would need to up your ISO by one stop or 1.5 to compensate. Or if you are using a f1.8 lens that could offset it too. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Alex! It will depend on the shower curtain and how much light its cuts away before reaching your subject. All of it just depends on how you are playing with distance of diffusion from subject, light from diffusion, mixed with camera exposure settings.
The only thing missing from this video was a little more explanation about distance and how it affects things. Inverse square law is so important and I see a lot of people thinking putting a diffuser right on the light will somehow make it a larger point source. Also mention drop off and light spill using open diffusers like the umbrella where it goes everywhere including the background.
Hey hey again UXXV! There was actually a version where I went into detail about the Inverse Square Law, but I felt it was going to spread this video too far so I just simplified it and said to go no further than a medium shot. But I do want to make a video about the Inverse Square Law as I do feel it's a critical topic that people need to understand.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Your content is amazing and the way you interact with people just adds to that buddy, thanks for the reply. Yeah it would be great to see that, I think its a point that would be the "aha" moment for people. Keep up the great work bud!
Hey hey 11 Acorn Lane! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Oh my goodness, it is sold out! Crazy! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Orion! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're not wrong, I think that setup plus either two lights stands or one with a boom arm would put the setup around $30 bucks or so? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for replying... I've been researching lights a lot recently because I want to start recording inside. Your videos have helped a lot. I ended up buying an umbrella and the falcon eyes flexible light... But once again, thanks for coming back and taking the time to respond
You're most welcome! And thats a nice combo for sure. The Umbrella I feel has more uses than people have given it credit for and it will come in handy when you move to a COB LED for more power and diffusion.
Perfect! Been looking into diffusion options for my GVM 800D. Does the umbrella bracket just attach to the existing light stand? Or do you need to buy yet another light stand just for the umbrella?
Hey hey Jaime! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The umbrella bracket attaches to your existing light stand, no new light stand required. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker It seems like I have the older version of the Neewer 660, the one with no screen at all at the back, but the light stands does not have any umbrella bracket. I guess I need to buy a different light stand or something. Sad jaja
You're tutorials and reviews are super helpful, detailed but not too long. Amazing! Just wondering if you could help me add the umbrella on my 660. I'm a newbie and don't know how to do properly. And if you could recommend specific umbrella and other needed hardware, I would appreciate it. By the way, Im from Canada. Thanks man
Hey hey Psalms by harvz! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad this video was helpful! All the links to the umbrella and umbrella bracket I used are in the description. In terms of putting it together, its pretty self explanatory when you receive the items. Simply mount the umbrella bracket onto the lightstand, and then the 660 on top of the umbrella bracket. There is then a little hole for you to slot the umbrella rod through. And thats it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for quick response. I really appreciate it. I just noticed you have the links of the umbrella and the adapter below. Yeah! You're video are simple, easy to understand, brief but detailed. Would love to see more camera, lights and gear review. Currently I have ZV-E10. I have Sigma trio's, small rig case and would love to hear more useful accessories and gear for ZVE10.
Hey hey Micah! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, you need to take off the barn doors for the square softbox. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Migel! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Oh man that round one is a trip to fold back up. You literally have to just hold the opposite ends and twist twist twist. Each hand is twist in the opposite direction from each other. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Hey hey OSO Jeremiah! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The umbrella's don't always come with a stand and the specific holder I talk about, however that doesn't mean some companies wouldn't bundle them together. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great video! Would it make sense to use the provided diffusion panel and the umbrella? Or another way to put it, would that make things even softer or just make the light dimmer?
Hey hey D! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It will technically make it softer, however I feel its not that big of a difference when using the umbrella method so I choose not to use the diffuser panel to maintain more output power. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey David! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey, in your 5 step gear buying guide you say to get a 5 socket soft box first. Is that still your advice ( only ask as vid is 3years old) btw the buy links are out of date.
Hey hey Bre Brot! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! It's a bit harder to determine now as Neewer had updated one of their Square softbox LED kits that puts it pretty close to a 4 socket softbox. These days they are close enough to the same price so I would say to go for the Neewer Softbox combo if you are looking for a three piece kit: geni.us/OKie (affiliate link) The only difference will be that these will have a little fan inside versus a socket box will be silent. Thanks again for stopping by and the heads up on the purchase links! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for your update and the great videos you make. I have researched the newer and the build q seems bad and so maybe better to spend a bit more .. what would you suggest next up the price range ?
Hey hey Amrinder! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes you can, I document this in my beginners kit setup for youtubers. You just use a bounce as your fill side to compensate if you need it. The video can be found here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__dsOEMzrVA.html Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Tripp! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Neewer 660 RGB, it has more LED diodes than the GVM so it should be a little brighter. But if GVM is onsale and cheaper, go for GVM. At the end of the day they probably perform about the same. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Wow I wish I had this video like 4 years ago when I first bought the 660. Would’ve gotten an umbrella instead of the square softbox saved some 😂. Excellent video!
Hey hey Lisa! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If you are doing the yoga right in front of the window (the window is behind you) these panels will not be enough to light you up after diffusion. Lighting in front of a window is generally on a case by case situation depending on how big the window is, is the sun shining through the window or is the window facing north or south, and lastly how much ambient light is bouncing in the room. A good starting point on a budget is to use a 60w COB LED ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3drVUZ5LWPI.html These are daylight color only and significantly more powerful than the panels I talk about in this video. This gives you enough option to diffuse the light so that it doesn't blast you too harshly. From here you have to see if its enough, if its not enough you can adjust your cameras exposure and "over expose" the window so that you are lit well and the outdoors will just look essentially white. If this is not the look you want, then you will have to possibly go to a 120-150w COB LED type (daylight only) to compensate. I know I'm throwing a lot of information at you, but without seeing the space physically through a camera I can't give you a precise answer. However this should give you a starting point. A lot of people will usually just film the opposite way so that the window is lighting them instead, if you put some sheer curtains in front of it it will give a nice soft light. This is the cheapest option and of course only works on a day where there is sun haha. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for the info. I appreciate it. I’m making silk curtains to diffuse the window light and purchased the GLOW Fox light 85w to try out
Hey hey L'ORAGE Productions! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The links are below that image to whichever online store you'd like to go to. That landing page is just a page I use so that if someone doesn't want to purchase from a certain store, they have other options. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
You mentioned the SMD version (P-600 2.4GHz), which doesn't have the lenses and offers a more a "flood" light to more uniformly illuminate an umbrella. I looked into it, but it only has 600 LEDs and 1700LUX/m output, as opposed to 2270LUX/m in the 660. I also found a "660 Advanced" version on Amazon, which claims to have 3360LUX/m (It's listed as "Neewer Upgraded 660 LED Video Light" on the Neewer site). The downside of this version is that it seems to be non-compatible with the 2.4GHz remote. But the extra output is tempting... Ugh, so many options! My OCD is going into overdrive.
Hey hey Chris! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I hear ya, chances are the newer non-2.4ghz version uses a smart phone app instead. As far as the numbers they quote, I would take those with a nice grain of salt because chances are they are quoting the top end daylight color at like... 6000k+. A blue light spectrum reads much higher than an orange light spectrum. So when you go down to normal 5600k, it may all end up being the same at the end. Ideally you'd want that flood beam going into a softbox, especially if that softbox is very close to your face (which you want for soft shadows). But if you plan on keeping the light further away from you, then it's really not going to matter and you should probably get the one with the most output so that the light can reach you. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Your videos are very informative! Some of the best on RU-vid, really. Whenever I see your name pop for a topic I'm looking for your video is the first I click. I have a question: I'm in the market for 660 RGB PRO but I also want the bi color version. Would it make sense to buy all RGB PROs or does the RGB PRO not work as efficiently as a bi-color?
Hey hey Furious Angus! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this channel has been helpful for your product research! The RGB Pro is a good round about panel for inside a bed room and smaller setups, but if you are looking for maximum punching power, the Bi-Color 660 will have more because of that focused light. Depending on how many lights you need, say like a classic 3 piece setup. You can definitely mix it up to your needs, maybe 1x bicolor for the punch and then 2 RGB PRO for fill light and color use depending on your needs. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey amit! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Absolutely. Depending on the use case and location it may not be desirable, for most with a medium LED panel I think one could still utilizing it nicely. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great idea and very considerate to use those settings 3:00, which give an overview for any system !! They should learn it and do the rest of the community !!! I am a user of a Panasonic G85, m4 / 3, 16Mpx .... I am tired of seeing tests with wonderful Full Frame cameras, full frame lenses f1.2, even with the Sony A7SIII and that in the tests they put the ISO at 125000. ... of course it gives good results !!! but ... can I lend you my camera? See if you get the same results?!?! XD Thanks again for your consideration.
Hey hey again Hackerockmedia! I know right? This is why all my color and luma tests on lights are still done on my Panasonic GH5, because if you know the GH5 can handle it, then any full frame can handle it. That being said, on your G85, you will want to use ISO 400 to be your baseline ISO in general. With a MFT 2.8 lens and in a controlled lighting situation, you should be fine for a close up youtube shot. Hope this further helps!
umbrella is too soft in my opinion . i did drawing for years and a good portrait has to have a mix of soft shadown and hard ones . unless you want it to look hazy
Hey hey my name! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Good points! Definitely each creator can adjust to taste for their needs. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thats true some people have it in their style to have verry soft lighting. and no need to thank im sure you worked hard. on the content. im the one watching it for free so thanks haha.
What are your thoughts on the Godox SL60 COB light vs the Neewer 660 panel for a starter kit? The SL60 has 4500 lumens of output vs the 660's 2700 lumens. The SL60 also has an umbrella mount built in. Apparently the newer SL60s have much more quiet fans, but I'm not sure how to tell which ones they are on Amazon.
Hey hey again Chris! TLDR, go for the Godox SL60. Bi-color on a panel sounds cool and all, but its really not all that practical for a starter kit. 99% of the time you'll be in a "daylight scenario" so you want the most power possible. The Godox's power will open you up to using light modifiers and have it easily attach and you'll have the extra power to push it if needed. The neewer is a great at home youtuber kit because you're never going to move it. But you're somewhat capped in certain scenarios of lighting and because of its "Beam" nature instead of flood. Getting to most soft light is hard. Also its harder to cut the light compared to a COB LED with a bowens mount. I will say do not worry about the fan noise, if this is your starter kit it will, and should, be the least of your worries. Based on your questions you need to understand lighting and crafting your look first before worrying about the sound of a fan in your recording (which is fairly easy to remove). Those are my thoughts, I would also recommend you check out this video on how I come up with buying decisions here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3zO9axytfK8.html Hope this further helps!
Hey hey GtheMVP! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video! As for the pricing, it looks like the umbrella prices have gone up since the recording of this video. Unfortunately no longer at the $15/led mark, but still cheaper than the official softboxes while producing softer light. Not sure if prices are going to go back down seeing the world situation at this time :( Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Just wanted to say "Thank You" for putting all those test comparisons to this video. It was very helpful, since I'm new to contents creation (RU-vid) world, this video helps me a lots
Hey hey Love Hawaii! So glad this video was helpful! I got a lot of videos for beginning content creators coming through the weeks. Hope they continue to help you on your journey! All the best!
Hey hey Diaspora Tv! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you enjoyed this video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
