How to Equip Heavy Support Squads in Horus Heresy 

Glad to hear that Volkite Culverins work in multiple roles and are actually good. Because the way they look and the way they are carried makes a squad of Marines with them look really awesome. And they come in the same box as the lascannons, the other great weapon option!

I picked Autocannons for mostly aesthetic purposes, they've always been solid but unremarkable weapons as well. Seems like they may be a bit better than usual in 2.0. While we're already talking Heavy Support squads, I wish they had introduced a Graviton option in 2.0. I think a heavy support weapon is one of the only places where we miss the option for them, at least to me it's the place I notice their exclusion the most.

Culverins going to 5 shots when they might have been the best option in 1.0 is just insane.

I'm just getting into HH and after reading and gluing some models I come to realize how one needs to be informed when it comes to building an army. Didn't go into this realizing that all the guns have to be purchased seperately to make up squads. Still loving it though. Got my Sons of Horus comin along.

Still on the fence about taking a 3rd heavy weapon squad. The Kratos with flashburn shells, volkites, flare shield, searchlight and pintle havoc with a techmarine standing next to it seems like a better 3rd heavy slot. Missile launchers are my personal choice for the versatility/ anti air for the heavy support squads but 20 is overkill with augury scanners. The only lascannon I might take is on the Contemptor with helical targetting array. For the real anti tank I'll spam 3 x rhinos with pintle multimeltas and a deep striking land speeder proteus with a multi melta. Already have the Proteus model before you tell me how useless it is but the mark 6 crew are really cute ;)

Really enjoying your videos! Hard to find good informational videos out here without some sort of drama or weirdness creeping in. Keep up the great work

Brilliant episode, really informative. Got me re-thinking some choices. Keep it up chum.

Aha! I've been looking forward to your next video... Now I have something to listen to while I work.

One thing I've learned about missile launchers is that even though Krak Missiles can get around the Heavy sub-type's ability to re-roll failed saves against blast and template weapons, 10 Frag Missiles are still pretty effective against other marines through sheer wound saturation when the 3" blasts hit their mark. Naturally, just like with any other blast weapon, nuncio-voxes are your friend for that re-roll to scatter. I currently run a squad of 10 in my Salamanders lists with missile launchers and an armistos, and being able to not only use the augury scanner without sacrificing a missile shot but also effectively shoot at BS5 is a godsend. I'd argue that the armistos is a better fit with them than the siege breaker (Sunder can be pretty effective when shooting at vehicles), though your mileage may vary.

Great content. Looking forward to more

Fantastic video! I was considering using Volkite Culverins, but not having played 30k before I wasn't sure about them. You have made up my mind!

Awesome, thank you!

On weapon break down videos I would like to see the stats of the weapons alongside the commentary, just so I'm not reaching for my rulebook while watching the video. Really enjoying the content so far

Wow. Thanks for telling me what I can equip my Heavy Squads with! I didnt see it in the army listing...

I am loving the video' - thank for creating such informative content

I've been using a 10 man auto cannon squad as Death Guard. Our Creeping Death rite of war requires a Siege Breaker and so I put mine with the auto cannons and now they get sunder, lol.

I'm quite glad one of the heavy weapons upgrade boxes has both Volkie Culverins and Lascannons in it, thinking about doing a 10-man squad of both. Also got the special weapons box though so planning on at least a rotorcannon squad and maybe some melta guys. Not decided yet. It's crazy how I originally thought "how on earth am I gonna use 40 tactical marines?" And now with a 20-man tac squad, 2 converted 5-man recon squads, 10 Lascannon and 10 Volkites I'm probably gonna have to go get some more now.

This is the first list I'm reasonably happy with. It's a 3k list but it can start at 1500 and then there are 3 x 500 point add-on blocks. Posting it here because it's relevant to the video and your vids are awesome! Raven Guard Loyalist 3k 'balanced' army HQ Praetor - cameleoline, archaeotech pistol, thunder hammer +Legion command squad - 1 standard bearer, 7 Legion chosen - power weapon x 5 HQ Master of Signals - cameleoline HQ Legion Consul Chaplain - bolt pistol, master crafted power axe, cameleoline Elite Techmarine Elite 2 x apothecaries - minor combi weapon (one combi flamer, one combi grenade launcher) Troops Legion Tactical squad (10) chain bayonet, nuncio vox, vexilla, sgt - powerfist Rhino - pintle mounted multimelta, searchlight Troops Legion Despoiler squad (20) nuncio vox, vexilla, power weapon x 4, heavy chainsword x 5, sgt - hand flamer Troops Tactical support squad (5) volkite charger Troops Legion Scout squad (10) bolt pistol, chainsword, sgt - hand flamer, powersword FA Land Speeder Proteus - multimelta FA Land Speeder Proteus - volkite culverin FA Dark Furies (10) chooser of the Slain x 2 (290 pts) HS Legion Heavy Support squad - missile launchers, augury scanner, nuncio vox Rhino - pintle mounted multimelta, searchlights HS Legion Heavy Support squad - lascannons, augury scanner, nuncio vox Rhino - pintle mounted multimelta, searchlights HS Legion Kratos - flashburn shells, flare shield, searchlights, hull - volkite culverins, sponson - volkite calivers, pintle mounted havoc launcher ---- 3000 Chaplain goes with the despoilers and the land speeders and dark furies deep strike, hopefully aided by the nuncio voxes.

Definitely tossing up with these - especially since I'm playing Death Guard (well as army #1) and Grave Wardens sound like they're a solid option in the Heavy slot.

glad to see the culverin is up top, i just wanted to equip them for the look lol

Great video! I do wonder if the culverin needs to go up in points cost for how versatile it is.. Looking forward to hear your thoughts on special weapons!

My AL heavy squad are pure choom for Legion/Company aesthetic unity. Taking ten with the MoS as I have currently feels a little dirty, though...

Great discussion as usual. Really love how you present things. This had given me a lot to think about. Will you be looking at the Tactical Support Squads in the same depth? Heard a lot of bad things about them Would like to hear your opinion. Thanks

I think heavy bolters with Olympian frag shells may be worth a look in iron warriors for mass pinning

Giving mine Aether Fire canons because of sweet sweet Tsons flavour.

As a new HH player, this was super helpful. are you going to do one for special weapons? :D

Any thoughts on assualt cannons on a BA heavy support squad

I’m waiting for official Plasma Cannons to plomp onto TSons. Achean Force is pretty fun.

What sections do they appear in. For some reason they don't show up on battlescribe

What are your thoughts on equipping a vet tac squad with a las cannon, perhaps supported with nemesis bolters as an alternative to 5 man support and/or seeker squad options? Very new to HH and perhaps more interested in the model making, converting and lore rather than competitive play. Cheers - liked & subbed.

Really enjoying your tactic videos! Have you had a chance to look and compare the EC sunkiller squad vs a lascannon heavy support squad with a armistos or something? Regarding cost wise etc! A mathhammer check on this would be greatly appreciated!

What about the imperial fists consort who gives them line. Does that change any of your thoughts?

Great video! I think the biggest winner is the multi melta with the move to a new edition. If you have a way to infiltrate them or you're up against an aggressive opponent they can really deny a large portion of the board! Isn't there a consul that gives scout/infiltrate?

Helpful Appreciate the slides.

Just need them to release the other heavy weapons for my marines now!

I mean you still net a catafracty if he fails, they are just so resistant against allot of other stuff

Regarding the Death Guard comment on Meltas being able to hop out a rhino and shoot them, swear it says in the rule that lets DG move and count as stationary it says that you can't hop out of a transport and count as stationary?

I play Salamanders and made some Volkte Culverin Heavy Support Squads to fit my Red Hot Salamanders theme

I dont find rules of autocanon in my Liber hereticus. There are different autocanon. Which one is the right for infantery ? The only Who is not "jumeled" ?

No mention of the assault cannon for Blood Angel heavy support units? Assault 4 with rending 6+? A rhino full of brrrrrt zipping across the battlefield?

Unfortunately I’m the case of death guard their legion trait has a special exception for getting out of vehicles so things like multi meltas will still be snap firing after disembarking

so would say Las cannons or auto cannons for Iron Warriors as a support option for EC force ( I'm doing an Angel Exterminatus themed list)

What is your opinion on the assault cannons for Fists, assault, rending and 4 shots?

Hi, I have five marines left and can either equip them as a support squad with rotor cannons or as a heavy squad with heavy bolters. Was thinking of giving them the heavy bolters since they will have more firepower, but I’m reconsidering based on your video. Any advice?

i go with las cannons, firstly cause they look cool and secondly they make a mess of what i shoot at.

The armistos also brings an invulnerable save to the unit

I'm new to Horus Heresy and am doing Death Guard using MK3 armour. How easy are the new weapon kits to use on the older marines? Can you add a bit of green stuff and hide gaps with shoulder pads? Cheers

Frag is better VS large squads of marines. 20 dudes is a large target and its easy to get 5 hits per blast templet. 10 frag x 5 hits per = 50 hits. plus pinning. with a vox you can reroll the scatter dice.

How about using the assault cannons in imperial fists?

Heavy weapon teams are best for bucks considering the reactions.

Sorry I am new… nothing in tactical squad say you can replace with flamer…no flamer in the HH box set

Aether-fire weapons look like they’d give plasma a leg up. Thoughts?

Heavy bolter should have shred.

Gotta say it, but hard disagree on the verdict for heavy bolters ESPECIALLY for Imperial Fists. For points to effectiveness, a squad of 10 IF Heavy Support squads are going to be putting out 40 shots, hitting on 2s, wounding marines and terminators on 3s. That's basically your opponent picking up 14 models out of a squad of 20 tactical marines in one round of shooting. For 175 points? You've already paid for yourself and basically neutered and/or removed an entire enemy unit in 1 round. Price to effectiveness, HB are a very solid choice if you play imperial fists. Additionally, you can a castellan in with them and now you have a unit with line and another 5 heavy bolter shots on top of that.

I want to run a 10 man missile squad for my NL's to help create pinning tests

Should dark angels just take interemptors instead of a heavy weapon squad?

I think the weirdest thing I've found with the HSS is that 10 lascannons is cheaper then 10 meltaguns in a TSS, seems a little off 😅