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As Studio One sphere member, please add the folder tracks as Tracks in the Exporting stems option, that could do our life more easy when you have to render buss stems for mastering! Could be cool to be able to render the folder busses tracks in one go instead of soloing and exporting the mix down on every buss.
Another thing to know is that when you put your wav files in a zip folder, you can potentially save up to 60% (or maybe more) on the space the stems take. So it will be much quicker to send to someone for mixing.
This is my way of actually finishing a song lol. Export stems of all the recordings/vsts and open a new session. This way I'm not constantly changing parts/sounds/instruments.
Hey Joe - you should mention making sure you dont have automatic dithering on when exporting stems. This caused me a bunch of frustration when delivering stems to mix engineers. All my stems had some static noise up around 15-20k, which adds up in a big mix. I feel like this should be off by default... especially when exporting stems.
6:00 Note to self: If sending for mixing purposes then choose 'tracks'. If, however, want all audio pathways included too then choose 'channels' 6:43 Choose 'Upload to Sphere' if collabing with another S1 user. Perhaps create a workspace first in presonus account. 7:37 put start marker at very beginning of screen so all tracks line up for your collaborator
Do where the pans are set on the tracks/channels have anything to do with the final stem export? Is there a need to center the pan out or is the stem bounce post-fader/pre-pan? Thanks!
Thank you Joe for all your great Videos! How do I best export/save a Song for archive? Best would be all the midis and all Audio with and without fx. Can I export all midi stems in one run?
i would recommend sending both WET and DRY tracks to your engineer. while there are engineers more on the purist side (like yourself) there are also a lot (especially in non-acoustic music) that prefer keeping the vibe/feel of the song as it was while the artist/producer was working on it. if there's an FX that's too heavy they'll usually use the dry vocal and try and recreate it while keeping it under control. personally most engineers i know like wet stems over dry ones cause they don't have to guess where the artists is trying to take the track. you can send both dry and wet but if you have doubts, send a reference to them and ask them if they want either or both.
Thanks Joe - I need to export stems for a mix soon. Watched a few videos that say if you export tracks it does not include the fader or plugins on the channel? Can you clarify this please - will do a test to see myself soon. If this is the case this would also mean guitar amps would not be included in the stems?
Joe laughed about that mistake with the prefixes. I think it is not funny. It's a pain in the ass and should have been fixed since long time. ( To be honest this should have never happened because overwriting user settings is a nogo,) Presonus is so proud of the workflow and in this part of the program it sucks because some of the user settings are not stored but permanently overwritten. I never want a prefix and this choice whether or not has to be a global user's default setting. Each setting in this window has to be stored as a setting that belongs to this specific song. And if I have to export the stems a second time I have to delete the files manually instead of having the option to overwrite or create the files with a unique name. That options are international standard since decades. The fact that S1 permanently overwrites user settings is also a problem when exporting songs and it has become worse since 5.4 by the new option to export songs in different formats at once. As much as I like to work with S1 : this is ....
When recording guitars I like to capture both the wet and dry signals as you might want to experiment with different effects later or layer them with slightly different tones.. SO you could say use DI straight from the guitar, post effects post amp nice if the amp has DI built in etc I know this might sound crazy but lets say you are using a cheap amp combo your room acoustics are not great you preamp is useless, DI eliminates these issues as its a straight line signal into your interface then you can add your effects amps speakers etc later.
Hey Joe, I think it's the other way round, if you want to export stems with all the bus effects etc, then you have to select "track" as source. This way each track gets soloed and runs through the whole effects chain of your mix. If you select channel, only the channel will be bounced with no effect buses etc.
But i want to export a bus with effects intact then what do i do in that case??? By exporting channels fx section getting exported separately is there any way??
Anyone know how come when I export channel stems (from studio one 4.6 into 6.0) the imported wave files sounds like white noise when I playback? (Impact kit and GGD drums)
The filename prefix and export location is totally primitive. We should be able to have a blank file name prefix instead of space character as it sometimes causes problems in order of tracks while importing into pro tools. And the storage location for some reason always defaults to studio one's internal folder. We should be able to default it into another folder once and for all
Is it not possible to export the stems in parallel ? Or is it planned for a future release ? Coming from Cubase, I find that exporting an entire orchestral song with 100 tracks takes hours in S1
When making my guitar track, I would export stem and send to my engineer producer, no problem. Now I want to do my vocals with tracks to layers. Since I want the engineer to decide which take or parts of the takes he wants to use, how do I export a stem with all takes? This would be so much easier than creating a new track fr each take and sending all of those tracks in individual stems. I want the engineer to receive all takes. How can I do this? I did make a dummy layer track with 3 fake takes and when I tried to export stem, only one take was there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hi one question for you. Why, when I export a stem and send it to someone who works on another DAW, the speed of the stem is different from that of the initial project? This thing drives whoever receives the file crazy and has to resynchronize everything. I use the same sample rate... what's wrong?
Hi there. I try to export one voice over track that has a send through a parallel bus. When I choose "channel" export, it exports the vocal track but the inserts of the bus during the export. are greyed out , so I guess they are not exported "printed" in the file. On the other hand if I choose both channels, I get two seperate tracks. Any help? Thanks
I’m looking all over to find out how to also send effects but on their own independent track. For instance, the “grey area” where there’s slap delay on the guitar. Rather than having to decide to include it on the track or not, How about the delay being on its own track? Nobody shows an example of when it’s good to use “export channels”. So far, everyone from wavy wave to help me Devan is only showing how to export raw tracks dry. Some show how to export with the effects baked into the track but not independent of the track. (Ex: Mixer wants to get your mix with your effects included but with the option to build on them, use them, or not use them at all.) in that case, how would that be done? I’m thinking it has something to do with the channel exports. I’ll do some experiments but I was thinking that would make a pretty good video.
Presonus REALLY needs to put accurate information in the manual (or info view) about "Export Stems" for example, Exporting Tracks as stems as shown in this video actually exports the Track along with any downstream bus processing as individual tracks. It also includes any effect sends on the tracks. I would expect an "export tracks" command to export what is happening AT THE TRACK level in the DAW, not the soloed track at the MASTER BUS level. I actually have had to create a document to remind me what is included in "bounce to new track" "mix down selection" "export tracks" "export channels" etc.
Hi there. I'm replying to you cause i need some help and it seems that you might help me.I try to export one voice over track that has a send through a parallel bus. When I choose "channel" export, it exports the vocal track but the inserts of the bus during the export. are greyed out , so I guess they are not exported "printed" in the file. On the other hand if I choose both channels, I get two seperate tracks. Any help? Thanks
@@CostaKalogiros solo what you want exported and then just do an "Export Mixdown" - bypass any other bus or master processing that you don't want on the export. That's how i would do it,
Hey Joe how u doin? Are you recording your voice with a compressor or how do you get your voice on the same level and clean on your videos. Hope u understand my question 😅😅😅😅
I think it’s safe to say that he is using some compression :) probably just the vintage tube compressor from fat channel if I had to guess. It’s a simple compressor, and I guess thats just what I would use for something like this.
wouldnt it be great if we could use plugin on the mixbus and master main bus to automate gain reduction .. Like record the gain reduction to be the same even if tracks under it where muted or solo'd ??? Then if we could then stem out through our mixbus and master bus gain reduction to be exactly the same as if all the tracks were played through it .. to when somebody gets stems without any effects on them it builds back the same exact mix with all the ducking created by the mixbus and masterbus ... Hope i explained that in a way that can be understood .. probably not . Ill probably get responses from people who dont get WTF im saying .. LOL
Thanks Joe. One question - what about panning settings? Is it best to centre everything before exporting stems? Would have thought the mix engineer would prefer that.
Hi, the panning should be always rendered into the Stem if that setting is on the Channel itself. If you've panned the Channel on a Bus that comes after, you want to use the Track Stem Export column (instead of Channel Stem Export). Hope this helps! -GBY
Joe; Tks for another valuable tutorial. Hey you did not mention anything about the Recording Tempo. Let’s say you recorded everything on 100 bpm and the mixing engineer to whom you exported the stems has it daw template on 120 bpm, should you not let him know in which tempo you recorded? Or the daw will adjust it automatically? Tks for the clarification
The other engineer needs to know so it will be easier. Sometimes I open a new session and I tell it not to follow the tempo and that session sent to me will work fine but if any additional work is needed like adding echo on time it will not echo correctly if you use the tap tempo steps. So always leave notes for the next engineer and send certain sounds flat but special sounds that needed a flange or reverb attack (etc) export out it as an extra channel with effects on.
What about when you've made artistic choices regarding effects/sound design and you wanna export everything with the effects going through busses etc? I know I should export channels in that case but do i have to check the tracks going into the bus AND the bus? and they'll be rendered with the effects that are on the bus? Or will that create one file for each track, and then a duplicate file with that same signal + the effects on the bus? This has always confused me, not really sure how to go about it.
I think Joe got it wrong in the video. For rendering with effects I usually use "tracks" as source. This bounces each track like you would listen to it when it's soloed, with effects, sends etc.
That's an observation and genuine question that deserves an answer maybe he doesn't know, surely you have to export exactly what you have created as it's took hours to do and your song is unique so why can you not send all the eq settings and plug ins? Studio ones objectives never aims to keep it as simple as possible come on Joe go through these details and explain
@@DSchwachhofer But i want to export a bus with effects intact then what do i do in that case??? By exporting channels fx section getting exported separately is there any way??
great but what about the actual wiring of external hardware,,, I'm confused how to hook it all up. I have 3 compressors and 4 eq's I'd like to use on my audiobox usb 96.
It depends on how you want to use them. With a 2-channel interface you can't use them while mixing. You need more inputs. If you want to use them while recording, you'll need to run mic to external preamp to EQ's/compressors. - Joe Gilder
When you export from start-end markers in S1 - will all the tracks then line up the same when imported? I guess that is the point, it just wasn't shown in the video.
It would have been useful if this was shown, I agree. Haven't tried it yet, but I'd like to know if when exporting like this all the tracks have the same start and end point - otherwise it's going to get messy on import.
Shouldn't you also center all of the stereo tracks so the mix engineer can make panning decisions? If memory serves me correct, panned tracks will render panned. BTW, an added bonus of zip files is that when tracks have no data (the portion of the wave file is effectively zeros), those parts compress very well.
Good observation. Also, I would balance all faders. As a mixing engineer, receiving panned tracks or lower volume tracks hinders my artistic freedom. And it happens all the time. Cheers.
Joe got it wrong. Both tracks and channels as sources bounce with the effects directly on the channel. But using tracks as source will bounce a track with all the effect in the buses it sends and is routed to, while "channels" only bounces the channel directly regardless of any effects of buses etc.
I’m assuming it was all audio tracks. My exports are quick as well, as I don’t use a lot of virtual instruments. The more tracks you have, the longer it will take. I don’t think you did anything wrong.
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A few problems with export in S1 and I discovered thus some while ago, when I first started using S1. As far as the accepted standard for record labels and mix engineers. 1. Export stems as you show it uses the mixer to bounce down all the track inc the fader volume!! This is wrong 2. These are not “stems” they are the multitrack masters or whatever you want to call them but basically raw audio, stems are sub mixes of song parts, eg drums, keys etc 3. Pro Tools & Logic can export files without disabling anything as it doesn’t use the mixer because of this it exports in a tenth of the time of S1 4. Exporting master files for record labels or mix engineers etc has been done for many years, it’s a proven method & often a contractual requirement , I can’t understand why Presonus have made this so confusing, they seem to have mixed up exporting “stems” with master raw audio.. 5. The best way of exporting in S1 which I found out by accident as it’s not in the manual is to drag the files out of the project as you show Joe, this doesn’t include the fader volume however it’s still takes a ridiculous amount of time in comparison to other DAWs like Pro Tools & Logic, I presume because it’s still using the mixer! It shouldn’t, the raw audio export should be no different to the recorded material itself, just like it would be on any other recorded medium like tape.
Agree about the stem export being post fader. Think it also renders with automation, but not sure about that without testing it. I'd love to see a simple check box on stem export to export pre fader.
@@rickbearup9514 the best way to export tracks with no effects or automation is the definitely drag to browser trick. No pan, no volume. I'm not sure why S1 doesn't have a command for that action because it's not particularly intuitive.mixing export, but great for mixing engineers that want individual "mixed" tracks for client or archival. Channel export is almost as fast as PT or Logic, and is a much better option for what Joe is trying to achieve here
@@anotherchrisperry good point Chris. I've done that before. Too bad it doesn't work for midi too. Would be so much simpler to have a raw track export specifically for sharing tracks for mixing.
@@rickbearup9514 exactly what I asked for on the Presonus requests website some time ago, the current export is great for stems but they seem to have forgotten multitrack export for mixers & record labels. They certainly wouldn't want tracks exported with fader volume! I don't understand how or why Joe or Presonus wouldn't notice this.
This is all great info, but PLEASE PLEASE don't call Tracks (which is what you're talking about here) Stems, as a mixer I want tracks sent to me NOT stems there is a BIG difference! Stems are stereo submixes from a finished mix, and Tracks are the individual mono files (even if part of a stereo pair) without any plugins or volume and panning info.
